$1 BIN for NES... but $39 for shipping?

[thehistorian]

Stuff like this just pisses me off... Not just one auction... but 4


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8130540648&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8130541425&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8130541609&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8130540788&rd=1

[GrayFox]

Ugh, stuff like this does make me want to slap people.

Did he decide to open up the NES and fill it with cement? Or is he gonna fill up the box, that he ships the NES with, with rocks instead of packing peanuts?

Questions..questions..

[Half Cab Leroy]

Did he decide to open up the NES and fill it with cement? That's what I thought.

And that red text hurts my eyes @_@

[captain nintendo]

Distrubing new ebay trend :o

[Adonick]

To be honest, it's because eBay is getting fucking greedy and the plethora of fees (in this case the ludicrous percentage based listing fee and the final value fee) are the reasons sellers are doing this.

I think its stupid as hell on both sides, but eBay is getting worse by the day.

[suppafly]

I agree. Sellers have to pay ebay fees, final price fees plus paypal fees...theyre getting too greedy!

[Sylentwulf]

It'll be shut down soon enough, ebay doesn't stand for this crap. There's anough overcharging on shipping without quadruple charging on shipping.

[tholly]

i know $39 is overpriced, but that is kinda heavy, so at least probably $10 is going to shipping....but, i dont think the sellers are wrong by doing this....ebays fees are awful....plus, most people pay with paypal, and paypal also has fees....so you lose yet more money.....plus, doesnt ebay own paypal now, so they are getting all that money too


in all, of the $40, about $10 is going ebay, so the seller isnt making all that much after the cost of shipping

[Nesmaster]

heres another item. $75 shipping @_@ @_@

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=8130685499

[Griking]

To tell you the truth, If someone was selling something I actually wanted and the selling price + the shipping price = reasonable price I wouldn't have a problem bidding on it. I coudn't care less if the shipping was inflated and the selling price was low. As long as my final paying price was reasonable.

[The_Chosen_One]

To tell you the truth, If someone was selling something I actually wanted and the selling price + the shipping price = reasonable price I wouldn't have a problem bidding on it. I coudn't care less if the shipping was inflated and the selling price was low. As long as my final paying price was reasonable.

Me too. The problem I have is the inbetween. When the selling price is a little low and you think it's just a good deal until you see an inflated shipping cost. They are purposely trying to decieve you. With the auctions linked to above, the sellers aren't trying to be deceiving.

[thehistorian]

Look.. Ebay charges fees.. You know this up front.

Don't like the fees?

Don't use Ebay.

[Adonick]

Indeed they do. But originally it was just listing fees.

Now there is listing fees, percentage listing fee based on start price, the dreaded FVF which is a complete crock of shit, and the amazing amount of paypal fees.

If anyone here remembers the days when great freeware was noticed and then became expensive software, this is exactly what is happening to eBay.

They were already grossing a massive amount from advertising and listing fees alone. The FVF was just the stake in the heart, and caused many sellers to just say "F U ebay, we'll sell for a buck then".

And I say ebay deserves it.

[thehistorian]

Again I say...

Don't like it? Don't use it..

For some reason you think that just because they started to charge you a little more that it gives you the right to cheat the system. I know you think this will suddenly make Ebay sit up and say "Hmmm.. maybe we've looked at this the wrong way..."

Well they will... And then you will be complaining because they now factor in shipping to the Final Value.. Then of course people will not list the shipping charges..

Which leads to YOU buying a one dollar NES and being blind sided by the 39 bucks or more to ship it..

[SegaAges]

somebody semms to be getting angry here.

if they cheated the system, good for them. damn the man AND his master plan. 99% of people that sell on eBay do it to make money, not to just get rid of something rare. if they did that, $.01 bin's would popo up everywhere. as long as they make money, and as long as i buy things for reasonable prices, i could care less what shipping is

[thehistorian]

No not angry...

Apparently ebay got to that particular reseller as they've changed the last link and relisted the rest. So now it is $9.99 BIN and $30.00 to ship. They also added one extra line to the text

NOTE TO EBAY: Please do not bother us about our listings. There is NOTHING wrong with the way this item is listed. Please bother some of the thousands of sellers who are charging way more for shipping and handling, and or selling illegal items! Thank you!


Sellers may charge reasonable shipping and handling fee to the final price of their item, providing that this fee is disclosed up front in the listing. A shipping and handling fee can cover the seller's reasonable costs for mailing, packaging and handling the item. Shipping and handling fees cannot be listed as a percentage of the final sale price.

So I guess the question is... what is "reasonable costs for mailing, packaging and handling the item."?

[Funk Buddy]

So I guess the question is... what is "reasonable costs for mailing, packaging and handling the item."?

Not three times the real cost... that's for sure. :D

[Sylentwulf]

All auction in this thread have been taken down ;)

At any rate, a REASONABLE handling fee would be $1-$5 depending on the size and cost of the item. Packing would actual packing costs, if you didn't pay for it, then don't charge for it.

[SoulBlazer]

I just don't understand why people can't post REAL shipping prices and put a opening bid for what they think is fair.

Could it be they hope to grab stupid newbie EBayers who dont read the auction? :hmm:

[Sylentwulf]

For a LOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNGGGG Time (2 years or so) I charge almost exact shipping/packing fee's.

Then after a lot of research, I found out that other sellers with the same feedback, and style auctions for the EXACT same items were selling more at a lower bid price with higher shipping.

So, I had to conform slightly.

[thehistorian]

Well Sylentwulf, I've actually purchased from you in the past. So I feel you are fair.

The reality is that it does cost a seller more than actual shipping to ship an item. I expect to pay for your time and materials too. However these are clear cases of them trying to dodge the fee system or to take advantage of new users.

[Griking]

Look.. Ebay charges fees.. You know this up front.

Don't like the fees?

Don't use Ebay.


Or you can look at it this way

People soetimes overcharge for shipping to avoid shipping costs

Don't like the higher shipping charges?

Don't Bid.

I really don't see the big deal about all of this. As long as the seller isn't being deceiving by hiding the shipping and handling costs then I say who cares.

[number6]

The point is Griking that the shipping costs are not representitive of the actual cost + time + materials to ship said item. The auction draws people in by the price being so low and is totally deceiving in that the buyer percieves a bargain. I think the saying for this is called "Bait and switch". Not a good way to treat potential customers in my book. I see you always defending tactics like this. Could you be of the same ilk?

[GamerTheGreek]

im not a fan of how Ebay handles their site. i have alot of problems with them to the point i will not go and make an account with them .i have one with yahoo but not with ebay

this is how i think they should handle their little ebay issue

NES
$ 20.00 BIN
shipping $ 10.00 ( ON THE HIGH END )
then EBAY Fees ( and then quote exactly the % you will have to tack on to get ebay their money without loosing out ) . if the seller shows the buyer exactly what % of the bid they will have to add on to send for ebay fees maybe they will complain to ebay as much as the sellers do

so it would be 20.00 + 10.00 making it 30.00 and then lets say 5% of that goes to ebay lets say . so they would have to tack on another say $1.50 so for a nes that BIN would be 20.00 the buyer has to pay in all $31.50. i think if sellers did it that way buyers would be more understanding in paying more ( maybe) and if not ebay would get alot more complaints and ebay cant stop people from listing auctions that way cause the sellers are just being that blunt and honest

[Sylentwulf]

Against policy to charge for ebay fee's, or paypal fee's. Your auction will get shut down.

The biggest problem with this, is people aren't giving ebay the right amount of fee's, and fee's will go up. It's the same concept as pirating videogames, steal from them enough, and prices go up.

[NintendoMan]

Yes, that is exactly what it is. THE EBAY FEES. This way ebay only takes it's final value fee out of $1 instead if $39 was the Buy It Now price.
The guy is only saving like $1 probably on each auction, but I guess it's still $1 dollar.