sealing snes games Is there more than one way to seal a game

[NintendoMan]

So I'm just waiting for it. The saturation point where everyone realizes that their bids have completely lost touch with reality, and they simply refuse to pay extortion fees for such common games, no matter how popular they are. Either that or the point where Nintendo finally wakes up and realizes that they could easily beat Sony & Microsoft simply by reissuing all of their hottest SNES titles and convincing Square to renew their license and do the same. Some sellers of sealed SNES games are making a killing on ebay, and they're keeping almost all of the money they make off their scalpings too.

That is a great point! BUT, I have actually written too nintendo before about this! It was about 6 months ago I guess. I emailed them if they have ever thought about remaking the old SNES and NES and evern maybe N64 games, and how easy or hard would that be?
The answer was definately very hard. He said they have different HUGE machines that are specifically designed to make only one thing. I.E. either nes, snes or n64 games. Once an area of games are done with and nintendo is ready to completely move on to another system, those machines are removed, and don't remember what he said they did with them?

The rep. also said that after all is said and done that there wouldn't be enough money made for profit to even attempt it. Which I beleive is true. I mean us collector's would go snatch new copies of those games they alwasy wanted, I mean myself would have to go get like a 10,000 dollar loan if not more, but other than that the casual gamers would probably go no where near those "older" games.

But we still can look for ports onto the GC and GBA of out favs. THe guy also said to email Nintendo always with out thought, and what games we would love to see get ported.

[jan112850]

Just to address the few new posts on Mexican H sealed games.
I ammended the Mexican/Japanese theory many posts back after discovering that there are some H sealed mexican games. Some of these were probably only packaged in Mexico and not Japan and thus are really first issues. Some are just majesco re issues and the Mexican factory has the H seal press. But I would maintain that most of the games from Mexico are not H sealed, and are simply re issues of Jap H sealed games done by Majesco. So if you have a Mexican game with an H seal, maybe it was only made in Mexico and maybe its a re issue of a first print Jap game. If you have a made in Mexico game with long edge seals and no back seam then its probably a reissue of a Jap game BUT ITS NOT RESEALED most likely.

Now could somebody reseal a Mexican game and sell it as a factory sealed game without the H seam SURE THEY COULD, but prob doesn't happen very often.

I guess that's why in the end, the H sealed Jap games will be more accepted by collectors. When it says made in Japan and it has the H seal then YOU KNOW ITS FACTORY SEALED. That should make the true sealed collector feel better and they will pay more. Also from what alot of you have said, the Mexican quality seems substandard compared to the japanese games in color and details and labels. WHO WOULD EXPECT LESS? The quality control in Japan if probably far greater than in Mexico, I would think.

Looking at the pics on ebay is sure alot more fun now. If the seller bothers to take the back cover picture, you can easily read where the game was made and see what kind of seam it has and form an opinion about what you'd pay with a little more knowelge than we had before this thread started. Cool.

But at least when we see a snes game on ebay without an H seal and clearly saying made in mexico, we know its PROBABLY not been tampered with. You'll just be getting a re issue of the game, MAYBE with slightly less quality than if you were to buy the game from Japan with the H seal.

As a doctor, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT YOU SEAL YOUR BALLS.
In the short run, your wife may be amused but in the long run, your balls will die and then you will be a eunich and your wife will find another man with unsealed balls.

[badinsults]

There were many games that were "Made in Mexico" that were not reissues. My Bronkie the Brachiosaurus copy was, and as I recall, it did not have a vertical seam, but I opened that one nearly a year ago.

This maybe a little off topic here, but I have purchased a few games that were "Made in Mexico". They were crap! Everything from the box to the manual to the game. I mean the picture quality of my Battletoad: Battlemaniacs game is only subpar to the original release.

I saw nothing too subpar about my Bronkie package, other than the fact that Bronkie is a very mediocre game (though infinitely better than Captain Novolin).

[Bronty-2]

"As a doctor, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT YOU SEAL YOUR BALLS.
In the short run, your wife may be amused but in the long run, your balls will die and then you will be a eunich and your wife will find another man with unsealed balls."

rofl.

I think any further analysis of this needs to treat "MADE IN MEXICO" and "ASSEMBLED IN MEXICO" games separately.

--the made in mexico ones we don't really have a lot of information about at this time. (Hmm, I think I'll check over my collection and see if I find any).

--the assembled in mexico are clearly majesco, and we seem to have a pretty good handle on that issue.

[mickoz]

They should write the name of the printer, sealing machine, factory, etc. Right on the box, why haven't they been able to think that back then?

[Bronty-2]

hehe. yeah, mickoz, that would have helped!

--I looked over my snes. This is getting more and more interesting.... first off, some titles like mario rpg and zelda didn't seem to have any made in japan OR made in mexico markings:

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/spmrpg.jpg

But, then I checked closely over the rest of the box and noted that it's sometimes on the side flap:

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/spmrpgside.jpg

I also did find several made in mexico games in my collection. I had just never noticed before. The first one I found is not sealed, but is complete, and in looking over the contents, it seems in no way inferior. Beautifully printed.

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/mm7.jpg

I also found several made in mexico games with the h-seam.

Donkey Kong Country 2

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/dkc2.jpg


Wild guns:

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/wildguns.jpg

GP-1 Part 2

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/gp12.jpg

Power Rangers fighting:

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/PRfe.jpg

Power Rangers Battle Racers

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/PRbr.jpg

The unfortunate thing here is that there doesn't seem to be any immediate rhyme or reason to whether a game is made in mexico or made in japan. So far we've identified made in mexico games by: Bandai, Capcom, Atlus, Raya, Natsume, Viacom, and Nintendo themselves. A real mixed bag. I'm guessing nintendo just made games in mexico whenever inventories levels required it. If the opened MM7 I have is any indication, there really doesn't seem to be a quality differential however. The assembled in mexico/ majesco stuff definitely does look inferior though, I can tell just from the box.

--Now, for the made in mexico games I've posted above, does anyone have (or can confirm the existence of) a made in japan variant? I'm guessing that they were made in both countries although I guess it's possible that every copy of DKC2 or whatever was just made in Mexico. Seems unlikely though.

[Bronty-2]

Oh, and I found a majesco super black bass in my collection as well, so add another title to the majesco list.

[jan112850]

Dan brings some great new material previously not considered "assembeled in mexico" vs "Made in Mexico". We already know that Mexican games may have the H seal, but still may not be first prints if there is a Japanese version of the same game. My guess is if there is not a Jap version, the game made in Mexico is 1st print, H seal or not. It could be tho that H sealed Mexican games are not made in Japan also or that both countries are making "first prints" with the H seal. It could be when Mexico re prints a previously released game there is no H seal. If that holds up then we have an easy way to id first prints. But I would guess that there are some games, not made in Japan, only in Mexico, which never have an H seal.

Dan, my "Legend of the 7 Stars" is the same as yours, The made in Japan is on the side. Maybe a different Printing company for the boxes for that game, but H seal and made in Japan is still on the box. So if it ain't on the back, look on the side, its prob an original Japanese game.

I think the main questions to still answer are
1. are any of the H sealed games made in mexico, also made in Japan. Does this make them both first prints if there are non H sealed Mexican games of the same game?

2. Does assembled in Mexico and Made in Mexico make any difference?
(My Castlevania 4 and Mega Man X games both say "assembled in Mexico' ALTHO THE WRITING AND FONT STYLE are different on the 2 games. So we know we have multiple factories printing the boxes in Mexico. Don't know if they print the boxes and seal at the same factory.

More shit to think about
S

[Castelak]

This is pretty informative, I don't necessarily go out of my way to buy a sealed game, but if the price is right I will pick it up. This is slightly off topic but I found it funny...

I was at Pawn America and saw a sealed Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest behind the counter. "Nice!" I thought, but upon further inspection it had a piece of tape with numbers written on it behind the seal, not to mention a slightly worn and ripped box. "Re-sealed..." I said, so I decided to have a little fun with it...!

I asked the lady if she could open it to verify that everything was inside, which she did. Everything was in there except the cart/manual. I laughed and said "Sorry to say, but you guys were taken... by the way, I bought this game from you awhile ago cart only... can I have the box/manuals?" YAY Free box/map/etc... anyone got a manual I can have? Haha...

Moral of Story: This info will be good for anyone to know. Collector of sealed games or not. Thanks!

[Bronty-2]

with regards to Steve's question #1, I'm hoping someone will be able to post a made in japan variant of one of the games I posted. Anyone?

With regards to #2, I think there's a huge difference between the made in mexico and assembled in mexico games.

MM7, made in mexico: quality printing, color manual, glossy cart label.

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/mm7comp.jpg

MMX, assembled in mexico: craptacular printing, B&W manual, matte cart label.

http://www3.telus.net/online/dans_auctions/mmxcomp.jpg

Based on what we see here, it seems as though the 'made in mexico' stuff is on a par with the 'made in japan', and that the 'assembled in mexico/majesco' stuff is inferior. It looks as though the quality control on the made in mexico stuff was fine, and I'm guessing the games are first prints as a result, with the majesco stuff being the crappy reissues. To me it would seem to follow anything made in japan or mexico would have the h-seam, and that only the assembled in mexico stuff would have the perimeter seals. Any other input anyone?

[jan112850]

I think Bronty has it. Made in mexico/ Hseal new factory sealed
Assembled in Mexico/ re issue by majesco and not same quality

Now can anyone find a MADE IN MEXICO game (not assembled) that does not have an H seal, because if you can we have to revise that part
S

All my "assembled in Mexico game do not have an h seal. so far so good
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[Iron Draggon]

I have now been inspired to factory seal my nuts, I hope my wife recognizes the h seam.

Just wear a Trojan condom for her, and make sure that the serial number on it shows. She'll be impressed! (You didn't know they had a serial number on em? Well I guess you never had to roll one down that far then, huh?) ROFL

Steve, I did email skiier_addict about his activities once, but the little weasel never wrote me back. He probably knew I wanted to sign him up for spam. I was so disappointed too, I know alot of gay porn sites I bet he'd enjoy! ;)