Wild Arms 2 - Star Ocean 2 - What's great about these games?

[farfel]

Played both last day and today & I don't see it. Not the battle nor the story. Quit after just 20 hours each. Should I continue or sell?

[Sylentwulf]

Wild Arms 2 was a game I never got into or finished. I really didn't like that game much....

Star Ocean 2, I think I finished it, but ALL OF THE EXTRA STUFF was just TOO much, I almost quit on that one.

[Overbite]

sell star ocean 2. to me. please!

as for wild arms, i didnt like that one either.

star ocean 3 is great!

[max 330 mega]

I played Wild Arms 2 until the end of the first disc. It was alright but i agree that it has a weak story. I got stuck at the end of first disc, because the game gave me the wrong information on where to go; so i never got past that part. I later found out that the destined place to be was completely different from where the game told me.

[Crush Crawfish]

I like both of those, although i've never gotten the chance to give them the amount of play they deserve. Damn my huge backlog!!!!!!!!

[link1110]

I liked the first disc of Wild Arms 2, but qwhen I got to the 2nd disc, i got bored with it. The terrorism plot is just more interesting.

Star Ocean 2 is my favorite game ever. I love the battle system in that game.

[farfel]

sell star ocean 2. to me. please!
See ebay in October

[Aussie2B]

Star Ocean 2 isn't for everyone, but I'd recommend you give it more of a chance. The story isn't anything special, but the gameplay is great. There isn't much middle ground, so if you end up liking it, you'll probably absolutely love it.

[Gapporin]

Wild Arms 2 had a god-awful translation which I will not get into right now. The game itself is pretty "eh" for me. But it did give me one of the best videogame quotes ever:

"Yeah! 'V' for victory, sucka!"

I've never played Star Ocean 2.

[SoulBlazer]

I love Wild Arms, and still consider it one of my favorite RPG's. But 2 and 3 were paled in compairson to it. They just changed the games totally around and removed the fun parts.

Star Ocean 2 I enjoyed a lot, good replaybility, some tough battles, and a fun game.

[Fuyukaze]

While I didnt enjoy wild arms 2 that much, Star Ocean 2 on the other hand I consider one of the best games out for the PS1. When I got it a few years ago, I literaly burnt my first PS from over playing it as I had loged almost 300hrs in a single month from it. Give it more time. Explore the skills system. The best part about it is all the things you can do in it. The worst part about it is all the secret PAs and items you will need to get to enter the secret dungeon. Plus 87 plus endings is a bit insane. Sell them both if you want. These days Star Ocean 2 is fetching a tidy sum complete on e-bay. I dont know about wild arms 2 though.

[Overbite]

sell star ocean 2. to me. please!
See ebay in October

you make me sad :(

[Aussie2B]

Wow, Star Ocean 2 has gone up quite a bit. I guess Star Ocean 3's US release is creating some more demand for SO2. I remember when you could get a nice copy on eBay for 10-20 bucks. It doesn't affect me much since I'm not going to sell my 2 copies any time soon (or my Asian version). I just hope it doesn't affect the prices of the PAL and Japanese versions which I want to pick up eventually...

[Overbite]

Wow, Star Ocean 2 has gone up quite a bit. I guess Star Ocean 3's US release is creating some more demand for SO2. I remember when you could get a nice copy on eBay for 10-20 bucks. It doesn't affect me much since I'm not going to sell my 2 copies any time soon (or my Asian version). I just hope it doesn't affect the prices of the PAL and Japanese versions which I want to pick up eventually...

exactly! before SO3 came out i saw SO2 everywhere and thought "i'll get it later!" and it was like $20 everywhere. now its not in any store and its expensive online :(

[Chooky]

I really really really tried to get into Star Ocean 2, but after about 30 hours, I decieded it just wasn't worth it to force myself to keep playing. Most of the events in the game are just tedious fetch quests, and whenever the real plot comes around, it never stays long enough. The thing that really killed it for me was the terrible, TERRIBLE teammate A.I. God, what were they thinking. The melee attackers would relentlessly charge an enemy, even if it meant running right into his attack. Even worse were the spellcasters. They would just go for whatever spell was highest on the list. If a teammate got hit, Rena would immediately heal with a fullcure, and her MP would be totally gone by the end of the fight. It just was too much of a hassle to try and keep these fools from screwing themselves during every freaking battle. /end rant

[Iron Draggon]

Square/Enix

'Nuff said.

[SoulBlazer]

Huh? First, Star Ocean 2 was made by Enix before the merger. Second, Enix has made some great games (Valkrie Profile). Third, Square Enix is still one of my favorite companies.

The hint book is worth big money also. I sold mine on Amazon lst year for $65. :D

[junglehunter]

I'm not really fond of RPGs per se, but I loved Star Ocean 2. It's got a pretty good story, and I liked how they let you choose between 3 modes of attack. The soundtrack is also one of the best on the PSX, IMO. I never really got into the Wild Arms games. :)

[Daria]

Played both last day and today & I don't see it. Not the battle nor the story. Quit after just 20 hours each. Should I continue or sell?

If you've spent 20+ hours on each game and haven't enjoyed yourself I'd sell them. I mean shit, I might think that they're great but if you're not having fun with the games why torture yourself?

[SoulBlazer]

Exactly. That's what I did with Wild Arms 3 and Skies of Arcadia Legends. :)

10-15 hours SHOULD be enough for any adventure/RPG/simulation game to know if you're going to love it or hate it.

[Aussie2B]

I really really really tried to get into Star Ocean 2, but after about 30 hours, I decieded it just wasn't worth it to force myself to keep playing. Most of the events in the game are just tedious fetch quests, and whenever the real plot comes around, it never stays long enough. The thing that really killed it for me was the terrible, TERRIBLE teammate A.I. God, what were they thinking. The melee attackers would relentlessly charge an enemy, even if it meant running right into his attack. Even worse were the spellcasters. They would just go for whatever spell was highest on the list. If a teammate got hit, Rena would immediately heal with a fullcure, and her MP would be totally gone by the end of the fight. It just was too much of a hassle to try and keep these fools from screwing themselves during every freaking battle. /end rant

The AI settings can be changed, and spells can be toggled on and off. There are also items you can equip that slowly recover MP in battle, reduce the amount of MP a character uses, etc. There's so much crap in the game that there is a solution to nearly every problem. The hard part is just getting into the game enough to discover all this stuff.

[Aussie2B]

Huh? First, Star Ocean 2 was made by Enix before the merger. Second, Enix has made some great games (Valkrie Profile). Third, Square Enix is still one of my favorite companies.

You're both wrong. :P The Star Ocean series was made by neither Square Enix or Enix. *points to avatar* THEY made the Star Ocean series and Valkyrie Profile. Saying Enix or Square Enix made the games is like saying Square made Breath of Fire because they published the game in the US or that Majesco is the creator of the Genesis because they put out the Genesis 3.

You know, I always wonder... does NO ONE pay attention to the intros of these games? When you see the big tri-Ace logo at start up doesn't that kind of suggest that Enix or Square Enix aren't responsible for the development? And if that isn't clear enough, how about when every tri-Ace says "Enix presents... A tri-Ace creation" (or in the case of SO3 "Enix presents... tri-Ace created...")? o_O Seems strange to me that so many people get this wrong...

[Aussie2B]

Played both last day and today & I don't see it. Not the battle nor the story. Quit after just 20 hours each. Should I continue or sell?

If you've spent 20+ hours on each game and haven't enjoyed yourself I'd sell them. I mean shit, I might think that they're great but if you're not having fun with the games why torture yourself?

If it means anything, it took a lot more than 20 hours for me to realize how much I loved SO2. When I reached the end of the game, I knew I enjoyed it and that it was a pretty good game. However, it took completing the huge bonus dungeon (and to some extent, a second playthrough) to get me full on obsessed with the game.

[Iron Draggon]

I always felt that Square/Enix were equivalent before the merger, so it was no surprise to me when they finally did merge. As for the Tri-Ace thing, it makes no difference to me. As long as it has Square/Enix on it somewhere, that's good enough for me. It could say that it was made by 3 monkeys for all I care, but if Square/Enix thought that it was good enough to pick it up and put their name on it, then it might as well be made by them because I know it's gonna rock. I haven't played a crap RPG with their name on it yet.

[farfel]

Exactly. That's what I did with Wild Arms 3 and Skies of Arcadia Legends. :) 10-15 hours SHOULD be enough for any adventure/RPG/simulation game to know if you're going to love it or hate it.


Now see I loved Skies. I think I'll play it again!

[SoulBlazer]

Its a matter of taste sometimes. I found Skies borring, confusing, and tedious.

[Icarus Moonsight]

sell star ocean 2. to me. please!

I sold one Buy It Now on eBay for $50 last week. I got one up for auction now, last I checked the bid was at $27 or so. Here's the link :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8131119278&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

And the link from last weeks offering:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8130083400&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT

A new release in a series almost always sparks interest in earlier games in the series on eBay (my observation).

Haven't played either yet but I intend to play Star Ocean 2 since I got a few copies recently. I owned and quickly ditched Wild Arms so I have no desire to give 2 a stab. I'll post my thoughts in a day or two on SO2 :)

[Castelak]

Dang... awhile ago I bought it for 15 bucks mint condition from Gamestop knowing I'd play it eventually, glad I got it then! Currently player the SNES Star Ocean... in ENGLISH! (coughpmmefordetailsorsearchgooglecough)

[Daria]

Played both last day and today & I don't see it. Not the battle nor the story. Quit after just 20 hours each. Should I continue or sell?

If you've spent 20+ hours on each game and haven't enjoyed yourself I'd sell them. I mean shit, I might think that they're great but if you're not having fun with the games why torture yourself?

If it means anything, it took a lot more than 20 hours for me to realize how much I loved SO2. When I reached the end of the game, I knew I enjoyed it and that it was a pretty good game. However, it took completing the huge bonus dungeon (and to some extent, a second playthrough) to get me full on obsessed with the game.

Well sitting back after the fact and saying "God Damn that WAS fun!" is one thing, but if you've been playing that long before you have any fun at all then it's really not worth your time.

And I'm not knocking Star Ocean 2 or anything, the above applies to any game.

And who knows maybe now just isn't his time for Star Ocean, it is a great game, prehaps he'd enjoy it more if he played something else now and came back to it in a year or so. I know there's been plenty of games I've found better after giving them some time and a second chance.

I can't speak for Wild Arms 2 however, I'm currently playing the first and loving it but I haven't even cracked open the second.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Huh? First, Star Ocean 2 was made by Enix before the merger.

The Star Ocean series was made by neither Square Enix or Enix.

I thought that Tri-Ace was a Enix dev-team. Like AM2, Sonic Team, Hitmaker or Overworks were Sega dev-teams. You do see a Hitmaker splash screen when you load up Tennis 2k2. I could be wrong however... :hmm:

[Aussie2B]

Nah, they're independent. They're too small to publish their own games, though, so that's why Enix (and now Square Enix) has always done it for them.

[SoulBlazer]

I SO can not wait for the remake of Wild Arms to get released in a few months over here. :D