Hey Joe, this one is for you.

[mcgrail0007@netzero.net]

I read in the last DP Guide that Joe needed Air Raid. I don't know if you still need it but if you do here it is. This is NOT my auction but I have seen additional pictures and it looks legit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=8131610439&rd=1

[anagrama]

Wow! X_x
Sorry, I mean, JESUS F*CKING CHRIST! @_@ @_@

Anyone want to have a stab at what this'll end at? It's gone from $300 to $1025 in less than 15 hours, and there's still over 6 days to run...

I bet they're all a-flutter over at AA... ;)

Of the 5(?) known copies, are any of them complete or are they all just carts?

[Griking]

I just don't like it!

A seller w/ a 7 feedback who's never sold a thing on ebay before under his current account. Even his buys are so old they aren't listed anymore. He's selling the Holy Grail of 2600 games and only posts a mock picture of the cart. If he can provide additional pictures to people who email him why not just post these pics online.

I hope this is legit and I'm just being a pessamist. I'm curious how high this will go.

[anagrama]

The pics have been posted in this (http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57325) thread over at AA and seem to have convinced the majority there. And Marco is the current high bidder, and it's pretty safe to say that he knows his sh*t when it comes to the VCS ;)

[captain nintendo]

So what is this going to end at ? 2500 + ???

[digitalpress]

See, what really sucks is that Marco is bidding. Marco is a friend of mine. I'd go as high as 1700 for this cart.

[wberdan]

if i had to guess... i would guess its gonna fall between 2,000 and 2,700 dollars.
who knows.

im excited to see what happens though


willie

[16-bit]

I just don't like it!

A seller w/ a 7 feedback who's never sold a thing on ebay before under his current account. Even his buys are so old they aren't listed anymore. He's selling the Holy Grail of 2600 games and only posts a mock picture of the cart. If he can provide additional pictures to people who email him why not just post these pics online.

I hope this is legit and I'm just being a pessamist. I'm curious how high this will go.

But who is to say any additional pictures provided were taken by him or her?

That is why image theft is such an issue and ebay takes image theft so seriously.

[anagrama]

But who is to say any additional pictures provided were taken by him or her?

That is why image theft is such an issue and ebay takes image theft so seriously.

Look in the Atari Age thread - they got the guy to stand in front of a TV showing today's date while holding the cart. It's a pretty safe bet that he owns it.

[16-bit]

But who is to say any additional pictures provided were taken by him or her?

That is why image theft is such an issue and ebay takes image theft so seriously.

Look in the Atari Age thread - they got the guy to stand in front of a TV showing today's date while holding the cart. It's a pretty safe bet that he owns it.

Thanks for letting me know. That was a smart move on the sellers part.

[-hellvin-]

Fucken awesome. Added to watch list. I am very interested in seeing where this ends at.

[Buyatari]

Unless I hear more for the seller I am going to sit this one out. Based on the picture and his low feedback I just don't feel I can trust the seller enough to shell out the cash this item is worth. Just been burned too many times and I no longer bid on high dollar items I don't feel 100% confident about.

This cart will go high if it is the real deal. A loose cart could bring as much as 4k+

[mcgrail0007@netzero.net]

Adam this cart will sell for enough where if you decide to become involved maybe it would be worth the expense of flying down to pick it up. If I really wanted the cart but wasn't willing to front the money through PayPal I would consider flying or driving to pick it up. It will end up selling for several thousand.

[Crush Crawfish]

JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST ON A POGO STICK, BATMAN!!!!!!!

That's really amazing. Whoever shells out all that cash is one hardcore collector. anyway, has anyone actually played arir raid? Even if it is just about the rarest game ever, I'd still hate to spend that much money on a game that's not worth playing.

[Predatorxs]

Holy shhhhhhh... the $$$$ on that auction! LOL

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[Kid Ice]

anyway, has anyone actually played arir raid? Even if it is just about the rarest game ever, I'd still hate to spend that much money on a game that's not worth playing.

I've played it emulated, it's not too bad, but far from great. As super rares go, it's one of the better ones.

I think we're about to see some incredibly competitive bidding.

[skoldpadda]

(stepping away from the high stakes table)

whoa!

This is way too serious for me...

suddenly 100 bucks for Krazy Klimber doesn't seem so bad...

[GrayFox]

I cannot wait to see how much this one goes for.

This will be interesting indeed. I mean, if it's already moved up that much in the first 15 hours or so, then imagine how high this sucker could go in 5 more days!

Jeez, this will be great to watch.

[skoldpadda]

Can someone post a link to the picutre of the guy holding the game?

That's as close as I'll ever get to it!

[Griking]

Can someone post a link to the picutre of the guy holding the game?

That's as close as I'll ever get to it!'


The pics have been posted in THIS (http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57325) thread over at Atari Age

[Balloon Fight]

I don't know about this one. The seller has extremely low feedback for this kind of auction, and he says it was apart of one of the biggest atari collections ever amassed. If it was, I think we would have known or heard of the guy before. Plus the photo in the AA thread is a little fishy imo. Even if I had the money, I would sit this one out.

Also, prediction time - $3,300.

Good luck to whomever is bidding.

[SoulBlazer]

I don't know, it seems a little suspecious but the pic of him holding the cart in front of a TV with the date seems very hard to fake. I would use PayPal or a certifed check so that I have some proetecion, or even fly out to the sellers house and make the trade in person.

This could easily hit $3500.

[Mayhem]

Holy crap... QoF told me about this last night as I'd missed it during my first eBay run through yesterday. Contestants.... ready! Yeah... there's the possibility of a little Mayhem action here too...

[Keir]

anyway, has anyone actually played arir raid? Even if it is just about the rarest game ever, I'd still hate to spend that much money on a game that's not worth playing.
It's a hack of Space Jockey. I'll sell you my Space Jockey for 0.1% of what this auction ends at. :)

[Dr. Morbis]

I think this auction is interesting considering the "just a Brazilian pirate" theory that has been gaining steam. It adds another element to the 'gamble' of winning his auction.

[Kamino]

@Joe; wow, i gotta give you some respect, stepping back for Marco to bid....

Personally - can't afford it, if i did i would DEMAND to pick it up, amd would bring along any way possible to identify if it is a real copy or a pirate copy.

[wberdan]

I think this auction is interesting considering the "just a Brazilian pirate" theory that has been gaining steam. It adds another element to the 'gamble' of winning his auction.

thing is though, why have none of these ever turned up in brazil...
if i remember correctly, like almost all of them have come from USA thrift stores, havnt they?
that would make the brazillian thing highly unlikely in my opinion.
maybe you guys find imports in thrifts.. ive never seen one around here.


willie

[Kamino]

I think this auction is interesting considering the "just a Brazilian pirate" theory that has been gaining steam. It adds another element to the 'gamble' of winning his auction.

thing is though, why have none of these ever turned up in brazil...
if i remember correctly, like almost all of them have come from USA thrift stores, havnt they?
that would make the brazillian thing highly unlikely in my opinion.
maybe you guys find imports in thrifts.. ive never seen one around here.


willie
shit, i'm lucky to find combat in a thrift.

[Dr. Morbis]

thing is though, why have none of these ever turned up in brazil...
if i remember correctly, like almost all of them have come from USA thrift stores, havnt they?
that would make the brazillian thing highly unlikely in my opinion.
maybe you guys find imports in thrifts.. ive never seen one around here.
Just because there haven't been many (any?) reported findings from Brazil on US-based English-language forums that are heavily dominated by Americans, doesn't say anything to me about the current state of Air Raid findings in Brazil. However, I am entirely apathetic about the subject and brought it up only because of its recurring discussion on AA.

[anagrama]

Has no-one been able to check the code to see if it's NTSC or PAL-M [Brazilian standard]?

[Keir]

thing is though, why have none of these ever turned up in brazil...
if i remember correctly, like almost all of them have come from USA thrift stores, havnt they?
that would make the brazillian thing highly unlikely in my opinion.
maybe you guys find imports in thrifts.. ive never seen one around here.
Just because there haven't been many (any?) reported findings from Brazil on US-based English-language forums that are heavily dominated by Americans, doesn't say anything to me about the current state of Air Raid findings in Brazil. However, I am entirely apathetic about the subject and brought it up only because of its recurring discussion on AA.
I personally like to support the Brazilian pirate theory just because so many people accept the theory that it is an official US release when, in fact, so little
is known about the game or about Men-A-Vision that neither theory is any more valid than the other.

As for them all coming from US thrifts, I think we only know where 3 have come from and only one of those is actually confirmed (Rick Weis'). Two from thrifts in California and one from a thrift in St. Louis. The St. Louis one seems strange, but do we really know for sure that it came from there? That one was on eBay once and no one even knows where it is now. At least one (and maybe both) of the other 2 are from Southern California, maybe they came from Mexico?

I certainly think you have a point though. It's easy to jump to the conclusion that it's from Brazil, but it could be from anywhere. It could be a US pirate.


Has no-one been able to check the code to see if it's NTSC or PAL-M [Brazilian standard]?I'm not sure how you would tell. Both NTSC and PAL-M use the same number of scanlines which is why Brazilian games will work in the US. Oddly enough, Air Raid uses 290 scanlines which is halfway between NTSC (262) and PAL (314). Most people attribute that to poor programming.

[Geddon_jt]

What I've always been curious about is how people know the name and company of this game. It seems like there is no endlabel or text on the cart itself at all...

Does "Air Raid - Men A Vision" come up in that wierd atari "attract" mode when the game is booted or something? As far as I recall most Atari games don't have title screens... :hmm:

[wberdan]

also- i remember reading joes' into in the collectors guide, where he says his friend mentioned 'menavision air raid' as a cart that came out ..

so im curious- this game must have had at least a brief mention in some US magazine (or ad) at some point right?

that wouldnt seem typical of a brazillian release...


i admit- it is a freak though. who knows.


willie

[wberdan]

What I've always been curious about is how people know the name and company of this game. It seems like there is no endlabel or text on the cart itself at all...

Does "Air Raid - Men A Vision" come up in that wierd atari "attract" mode when the game is booted or something? As far as I recall most Atari games don't have title screens... :hmm:

i think its on the multicart i have, and yeah it does have it on an 'attract screen' (i guess you could call it that).


willie

[anagrama]

One more query: Can I assume that no box/manual has ever been found?
I'd imagine that would go some way towards hinting at the origins, if it had been...

[Keir]

What I've always been curious about is how people know the name and company of this game. It seems like there is no endlabel or text on the cart itself at all...

Does "Air Raid - Men A Vision" come up in that wierd atari "attract" mode when the game is booted or something? As far as I recall most Atari games don't have title screens... :hmm:
When you play the game, it says Men-A-Vision at the bottom of the screen.


One more query: Can I assume that no box/manual has ever been found?
I'd imagine that would go some way towards hinting at the origins, if it had been...
One of the ones that was found at a CA thrift was supposedly boxed. AFAIK that's the only reason we know the game as Air Raid. However, the person who owns/owned that one stopped collecting and basically disappeared. No pictures of his Air Raid box exist. Now that I think of it, I may have read something about Men-A-Vision being based in California on the box. :hmm:

EDIT: I didn't read the box, I mean that I read that the person who found the box said that.

[leonk]

So the only reason the game is called air raid is because some out of sight person saying so?? :o

The game's attract screen doesn't say "Air Raid" ??

[wberdan]

So the only reason the game is called air raid is because some out of sight person saying so?? :o

The game's attract screen doesn't say "Air Raid" ??

nope- just checked it out on the multicart
just says menavision on the bottom, and the screen rolls like a bastard.


willie

[Keir]

You know, it's been a while, maybe it does. See for yourself. The ROM is right here:

http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=972

[SegaAges]

i don't think the pprice is bad at all. i don't have that kind of money, but it really isn't taht bad at all. a couple grand for a super mint 2600 game is nothing compared to how much those neo geo collectors are dishing out (i remember one auction for a neo geo game going for 10k and the collectors thought that was the price it should have sold at).

[anagrama]

Does the 'Brazilian' theory have any credence other than the fact that the screen rolls and there's lots of strange carts that have come out of Brazil?

I mean, all known copies have been found in the US, and none in Brazil. The screen rolls, but apparently it doesn't have the right number of scanlines for either the US or Brazil.

Brazil isn't really the big unknown wilderness it was a few years back - there's a fair number of clued-up collectors/re-sellers there who know they can get good money exporting Brazilian-only releases (esp. 2600, SMS and Videopac) and there has still never been any more of these found there.

To me, it just sounds like collectors are trying to write it off as a pirate/boot/whatever just so they can cross it off the list of US releases that they still need.

Yeah, it may well be a "pirate", but why Brazil? Why not a US-made one? I mean, the 'Mexican' theory makes more sense, but there's still not a shred of evidence for that.

Also - I know from the DPG intro that was mentioned earlier that this has been a rumoured release for many years - where did the first mentions of it come from? Anyone know?

Is there any more to it that I'm missing?

[wberdan]

a couple grand for a super mint 2600 game is nothing compared to how much those neo geo collectors are dishing out (i remember one auction for a neo geo game going for 10k

yeah, but those people are kooks.


juuuust kidding....

LOL


anyway- maybe this auction will start to open an 'investigation' towards air raid...
and i agree that i think people want to dismiss this as brazillian to cross a release off the US list.. at least maybe a couple people :D


willie

[Keir]

Ah you guys are on to me! LOL

The reasons some people think it's Brazilian are:
(1) colored T-handle case (same style as other Brazilian T-handle carts, not the K-Tel/Ultravision T-handle style)
(2) Men-A-Vision just sounds like a Brazilian company name
(3) the strange artwork is reminiscent of other Brazilian games
(4) it uses large chunks of code from another mainstream game (i.e. it's a pirate)
(5) the scanline issue
that's all I can think of right now

So you're right, there is no evidence that it's from Brazil. However, there's no convincing evidence that it is from anywhere else either. I just think it's really interesting to discuss all the possibilities. Who said there aren't pirates in the US? You may be on to something there!

[Mayhem]

Well the game worked fine through my CuttleCart2 if that's any useful info. No roll, colours seemed okay.

[leonk]

If a game rolls, on any system, then it is not made for that system <PERIOD>

I'm not sure why people think it should be on the US list!?? If it rolls then it's either a proto or an import.

[FABombjoy]

If a game rolls, on any system, then it is not made for that system <PERIOD>

Xonox Artillery Duel rolls on some US TVs, and it was made for NTSC. My copy rolls on several TVs, but the Chuck Norris Superkicks on the other side of the cart works fine. It uses too few scanlines & concequently confuses some sets.

[vintagegamecrazy]

I'm leaning towards it still being american, all the other arguments have no evidence.

When this ends and we know who bought it, the buyer needs to be contacted and asked if he would help us gain any new info on it. If I remember right Sean Kelly was the one who dumped the rom, maybe contacting him would uncover more info.

The database should list it as a R10/$999 it will never go lower and $800 is wrong.

[stonic]

.....

[wberdan]

If a game rolls, on any system, then it is not made for that system <PERIOD>

Xonox Artillery Duel rolls on some US TVs, and it was made for NTSC. My copy rolls on several TVs, but the Chuck Norris Superkicks on the other side of the cart works fine. It uses too few scanlines & concequently confuses some sets.

Exactly. It's not the system that's having a problem so much as it is the TV that can't handle it.

Here's a screenshot of Air Raid:

http://home.ptd.net/~scottith/airraid.png

right- i had that artillery duel problem on certain sets- and others are fine.
PROB thats the deal with air raid on my current set.

and anyway, menavision wouldnt have been the only company from the US to just rip code and copy games would they? didnt lochjaw or some other 2600 games do that...? panda titles?



willie

[video_game_addict]

If a game rolls, on any system, then it is not made for that system <PERIOD>

Xonox Artillery Duel rolls on some US TVs, and it was made for NTSC. My copy rolls on several TVs, but the Chuck Norris Superkicks on the other side of the cart works fine. It uses too few scanlines & concequently confuses some sets.

Exactly. It's not the system that's having a problem so much as it is the TV that can't handle it.



Well regarding the Xonox carts I've heard it was Xonox that screwed up and placed NTSC roms on one sides, CN, and PAL roms on the other side AD. Mine is the same way. :| Also stupid Playaround carts are sh!t, one side works other side is dead. QC was not paramount back in the day.. :(

You are right tho, it's the TV's that have the problem, mine looks like this:

http://members.cox.net/j_riezinger/temp/airraid.jpg

:\

I think it is more of the fact that they are in the middle with scanlines, not that is is truly a PAL cart. Also if it were a PAL-M, a Brazil cart, it would still not make it any less likely to work in US. PAL-M was their tv standard, but the carts from there all seem to work fine as NTSC. Sets in the 80s still had Vhold on them, well the early 80s at least, so the roll may not have been a problem at that point.


I'm curious about the intro to the DP guide as well, that is/was from a long time back, before the one/two? that hit ebay, and before the one that Ben found as well. The Men-A-Vision is easy to ascertain, seeing as it's on the game startup screen.. but the title?? Who knows. Well maybe some day another box will turn up.

[Dr. Morbis]

I mean, all known copies have been found in the US, and none in Brazil
Known to who? Those of us who are English speaking North Americans and members of DP and AA?
Just out of curiosity, I would like to know if there is one single English-speaking Brazilian who is a member of this board who could shed some light on the Brazilian conspiracy theory.

[Keir]

Interesting stuff, these old rec.games.video.classic threads...

Here's a post from the guy who found the box:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=55bin6%242js%40ganja.nol.net

A cryptic post from 1998. Does he mean that even the box doesn't have a title?
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=19980921142502.26074.00002899%40ng44.aol.com

Here's a post from someone who sold one on eBay back in 1999:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=3803AA76.1EA05E77%40earthlink.net

The other eBayed one from 1998:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6kc5lu%24qmd%241%40excalibur.flash.net

[Keir]

I mean, all known copies have been found in the US, and none in Brazil
Known to who? Those of us who are English speaking North Americans and members of DP and AA?
Just out of curiosity, I would like to know if there is one single English-speaking Brazilian who is a member of this board who could shed some light on the Brazilian conspiracy theory.

scmsx (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=755)
Sergio doesn't post much, he's more of an AA kind of guy (where he posts as charin).

[video_game_addict]

Interesting stuff, these old rec.games.video.classic threads...

Here's a post from the guy who found the box:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=55bin6%242js%40ganja.nol.net


Yes from Google accounts, Terry Rutt was the first known collector to find this mysterious cart. And it was with BOX. :eek 2: Ben, aka: Pitfall Harry on AA, has posted in the past, that Terry misplaced the box, but had given him some background story on it. The email address Terry once used no longer works, and he sort of dropped out of the scene. But it was Terry's box that stated the title we all know today...allegedly. It's never been scanned. Probably never will. :| Supposedly it's Terry's rom floating around the net, that Hozer originally dumped several years back.



A cryptic post from 1998. Does he mean that even the box doesn't have a title?
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=19980921142502.26074.00002899%40ng44.aol.com


No I believe he's trying to stress just how rare a find a Boxed copy would be, that it's unlikely, but not that the title was/wasn't on the box. He was actually replying to Ben's post in that thread.

And this would make the 3rd ebay auction, but whether this is one of the original copies that have been on ebay previously is unknown. The seller in this auction mentioned it was part of a huge collection...

[leonk]

It's sad that the box was "misplaced"..

examining the box will easily tell us if it's a pirate as well as its origin.

[Buyatari]

It's sad that the box was "misplaced"..

examining the box will easily tell us if it's a pirate as well as its origin

That might then make the game LESS VALUABLE with the box. If you had a game people were willing to pay thousands for, yet seeing the box would lead them to believe it was yet another pirate worth 100 or less. I wonder if your box would disapear as well.

[TheRedEye]

It's sad that the box was "misplaced"..

examining the box will easily tell us if it's a pirate as well as its origin

That might then make the game LESS VALUABLE with the box. If you had a game people were willing to pay thousands for, yet seeing the box would lead them to believe it was yet another pirate worth 100 or less. I wonder if your box would disapear as well.

Now there's an interesting theory.

[sniperCCJVQ]

$1,780.00 and 3 hours to go.

[Balloon Fight]

$3,305.00 - That beat all of our predictions. X_x

[Atarileaf]

Anyone know who wonder007 is?
All I gotta say is @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@

[StartTheBiddingLow]

£1,843!
Mayhem UK, at least you don't have to pay the huge duty on the parcel. O_O

I repeat: £1,843!!!!

[Mayhem]

I would have had it shipped to QoF anyways and picked it up in November (going to see her for Thanksgiving). But yeah... someone's paying as much as me for shit, that can't be right X_x :P

And likewise, anyone know who wonder007 is?

[Crush Crawfish]

And likewise, anyone know who wonder007 is?

I don't know, but whoever he is, he's a very serious atari collector. Check his previous auctions. He bought a sealed Copy Cart for like $350. Someone should point him to the forums! Maybe we can get some more info on this cart from him.

[TRM]

I am wonder007...j/k

Just to avoid any mistakes/confusion, I am NOT wonder007... j/k = just kidding. Sorry

[cincynoti]

As for them all coming from US thrifts, I think we only know where 3 have come from and only one of those is actually confirmed (Rick Weis'). Two from thrifts in California and one from a thrift in St. Louis. The St. Louis one seems strange, but do we really know for sure that it came from there? That one was on eBay once and no one even knows where it is now. At least one (and maybe both) of the other 2 are from Southern California, maybe they came from Mexico?



So who are the current owners and where did each copy come from. From this thread, google and AA:

1) Terry Rutt: origin: found boxed (thrift store?), ROM dumped by Hozer
2) Rick Weis: bought from PitfallHarry (Ben), origin: found in CA thrift 9/1998
3) jeffgamer: won on ebay in 1998 from wrench (~$350), origin: ?
4) jimk: won on ebay in 1999 from fedup01 ($531), origin: ?
5) trm/wonder007: won on ebay 2004 ($3035), origin: ?

Anyone know any more details or if any other collectors have Air Raid? Which one was found in CA thrift other than Rick Weis' and which one was from the St Louis thrift?

[Keir]

As for them all coming from US thrifts, I think we only know where 3 have come from and only one of those is actually confirmed (Rick Weis'). Two from thrifts in California and one from a thrift in St. Louis. The St. Louis one seems strange, but do we really know for sure that it came from there? That one was on eBay once and no one even knows where it is now. At least one (and maybe both) of the other 2 are from Southern California, maybe they came from Mexico?



So who are the current owners and where did each copy come from. From this thread, google and AA:

1) Terry Rutt: origin: found boxed (thrift store?), ROM dumped by Hozer
2) Rick Weis: bought from PitfallHarry (Ben), origin: found in CA thrift 9/1998
3) jeffgamer: won on ebay in 1998 from wrench (~$350), origin: ?
4) jimk: won on ebay in 1999 from fedup01 ($531), origin: ?
5) trm/wonder007: won on ebay 2004 ($3035), origin: ?

Anyone know any more details or if any other collectors have Air Raid? Which one was found in CA thrift other than Rick Weis' and which one was from the St Louis thrift?

This is from AA:

I found my copy in a thrift store in So. Cal, in 1998. One year prior to that, another collector claimed to have found a copy of Air Raid in a Dallas/ Fort Worth area flea market. His description of the game convinces me that this was not a hoax, and the ebay record shows (Showed. It's no longer in their database) that a blue T-handled game of unknown title but with label art depicting a city under seige by alien spacecraft sold for $252. I don't know who bought it.

In 1999, another copy of Air Raid hit the ebay auction block. I contacted the seller -- who also had no idea what the title of his game was -- and I asked him where he'd found his copy. He said he found it four or five years earlier in a thrift store in the St. Louis Area.

Finally, by researching the public record of usergroup pastings (Now available through Google Groups) I tracked down another collector who claimed he found the first discovered copy of Air Raid. Via email, he informed me that he found his copy in a thrift store in California, and the only way he knew the title of the game is because "Air Raid" was printed on the box! Additionally, he recalled having read from the box that the company, Men-A-Vision, was also located in California. His is the only known boxed copy of the game in existence, as far as I know. I tried for years to get him to scan the box but to no avail. He dropped out of the active collecting scene years ago, and all his games are scattered in staorage locations he's just too busy to go looking through. Eventually, his email address changed and I have since lost contact with him.
So we have (3) from Dallas flea market, (4) from St. Louis, and (1) from California. Unfortunately, we don't know the origin of this latest one, and it could be any of (1), (3), or (4).

[vintagegamecrazy]

Moderators, this should be moved to the main forums so this is more visible to everyone and so we can keep this alive. Has anyone emailed wonder007 yet. If not I will ask him to join the boards.

[Ed Oscuro]

Good idea, vintagegamecrazy.

What's funny is that this still doesn't touch the Euro Kizuna Encounter LOL

[sniperCCJVQ]

He got a positif feedback!

The guy really dropped 3K !!!!!!!!! @_@ @_@ @_@

[wberdan]

*cough* erick sylva *cough*

damn itchy cough.


willie

[vintagegamecrazy]

I sent the buyer an email asking him if he would like to visit the site. Hopefully he replies and wants to help us out.

[vintagegamecrazy]

I emailed the ebay buyer "wonder007" and he said that he'd come to the boards here and share with us. I hope he can make it, everyone look forward to his appearance at the end of the week.