"Retro is here to Stay" Says Waco Newspaper (NES)

[MegaDrive20XX]

Today in my paper, the teens of the City of Waco have proclaimed that the rediscovering the NES is in high demand.

Quoting from Sept 16th. 2004 Newspaper in Waco Tribune:

"Even the video game industry, less than 30 years old, profits from popular love of retro. Older gamers venerate old games like Pong and old game systems like the Super Nintendo, while younger players are rediscovering the joys of old school Gameplay. Nintendo has enjoyed great success with it's Classic NES Series, a re-release of all its greatest games for the original Nintendo on the hand held GameBoyAdvance. Retro is here to stay: Old is the New New"

Well my 2 cents, the youth is not completely wasted. Yet I felt Nintendo milking the cash cow for marketing NES games like this for $19.99 a pop is bogus....yet, the results are doing wonders judging from this article. Which I'm kind of surprised to be honest, especially since I live out in Waco and activity of games are no where to be found, I guess I was wrong.

[Cmosfm]

This just backs my theory on why I can't find games at my normal spots anymore.

:angry:

[captain nintendo]

This just backs my theory on why I can't find games at my normal spots anymore.

:angry:

Either that or you have run your "well" dry :o


Its kind of good that new generation of gamers like the old school stuff.
Its a good thing to know your roots. I see so many games that dont know a thing about the history of a game or line of games. :(

[Cauterize]

This just backs my theory on why I can't find games at my normal spots anymore.

:angry:

Agreed, along with the rise in prices!!!!

[Cmosfm]

This just backs my theory on why I can't find games at my normal spots anymore.

:angry:

Either that or you have run your "well" dry :o


No way!

I frequent 7 towns normally for my finds (Spartanburg, Union, Greenville, Greer, Taylors, Chesnee & Inman) in South Carolina. Within these towns I have 3-4 flea markets, countless pawns, thrifts, rental stores, game stores, etc. It's funny that they all died about the same time early this year. Even funnier considering there are actually MORE places to look now than there was when I started (new game stores and blockbuster's Game Rush).

I've lost the urge to try. :(

I put my :angry: avatar down with truth, not with naive ignorance

EDIT: Yeah, as Caut said, prices are much higher now as well. People that used to dump it for nothing are now holding tight to there "goldmines" as they believe. Thrifts & Pawns jacking prices up 3-4 times, it's enough to drive one crazy.

x_x

[max 330 mega]

i dont think its a good thing at all that new gamers are discovering there roots, its a fad , that for the time being makes collecting extremely hard for those who have been at it for a while, and once it dies out again all will become normal again, but the humongous prices on ebay, no selection at my local flea market, and every week seeing gamecrazy raped of anything decent gets on my nerves.
someone said it was good to see gamers going back to there roots, i disagree, the same generation that goes out and wastes all there money on worthless games with movie licenses with no prior knowledge to how bad it SUCKED, do not take care of there games at all, (like when i go over my next door neighbors house, and he has 10 playstations discs turned upside down covered in grime and using some as drink coasters!)
does not, and will not ever appreciate classic gaming, a year from now they will be back to the same line of "nes sux doooood, the graphics are really bad compared to final fantasy 13!!!!!!!"
just my opinion here :angry:

[MegaDrive20XX]

This just backs my theory on why I can't find games at my normal spots anymore.

:angry:

Either that or you have run your "well" dry :o


No way!

I frequent 7 towns normally for my finds (Spartanburg, Union, Greenville, Greer, Taylors, Chesnee & Inman) in South Carolina. Within these towns I have 3-4 flea markets, countless pawns, thrifts, rental stores, game stores, etc. It's funny that they all died about the same time early this year. Even funnier considering there are actually MORE places to look now than there was when I started (new game stores and blockbuster's Game Rush).

I've lost the urge to try. :(

I put my :angry: avatar down with truth, not with naive ignorance

EDIT: Yeah, as Caut said, prices are much higher now as well. People that used to dump it for nothing are now holding tight to there "goldmines" as they believe. Thrifts & Pawns jacking prices up 3-4 times, it's enough to drive one crazy.

x_x

I know how you feel man...but don't give up, I've seen some flea markets who will dump off the stuff for pratically nothing...you just gotta try when you least expect it....yet I kinda blame GameStop as well, because of the fact everyone jacks up their prices to compete with GameStop

[kevincure]

I know we talk about this a lot, but for common games, ebay lots can't be beat. You can get larger NES lots for 1-2$/game, and I recently sold a bunch of N64 lots for under $3 a game (with .01 starting bids). I don't know why so many people knock ebay as a tool for the buyer - the prices are Goodwill competitive for non-rate games.

[racecar]

goodwill is the place to be, also thrift stores.... retro stuff are begining to get popular again and iam not just talking about games...

[classicb]

A lot of people see this as a fad. In a year or two alot of new collectors will dump their entire collections. We see it on here all the time.

[Push Upstairs]

So does this mean all the new "retrogamers" are going to find SMB/Duckhunt for $.50 at a used store and curse Nintendo because they just blew $20 for the (almost) same thing on GBA?

[MegaDrive20XX]

A lot of people see this as a fad. In a year or two alot of new collectors will dump their entire collections. We see it on here all the time.

Breaking it down, you are dead on right, this is a fad...and when they drop their goodies....bet your bottom dollar...I'll be there to snatch up the goods :evil:

[Cauterize]

Yeah, as Caut said, prices are much higher now as well. People that used to dump it for nothing are now holding tight to there "goldmines" as they believe. Thrifts & Pawns jacking prices up 3-4 times, it's enough to drive one crazy.

x_x

it's enough to drive one crazy. <--- One being me!

[Ed Oscuro]

i dont think its a good thing at all that new gamers are discovering there roots ... a year from now they will be back to the same line of "nes sux doooood, the graphics are really bad compared to final fantasy 13!!!!!!!"
just my opinion here :angry:
x_x

Wow, what should make people feel like they're part of a new national pasttime has excited feelings of jealousy and anger.

Guess I should be ashamed I'm "discovering my roots," and should get back to reading encyclopedia articles. Yeah.

[Cmosfm]

i dont think its a good thing at all that new gamers are discovering there roots ... a year from now they will be back to the same line of "nes sux doooood, the graphics are really bad compared to final fantasy 13!!!!!!!"
just my opinion here :angry:
x_x

Wow, what should make people feel like they're part of a new national pasttime has excited feelings of jealousy and anger.

Guess I should be ashamed I'm "discovering my roots," and should get back to reading encyclopedia articles. Yeah.

There's not a thing wrong with "discovering your roots", heck, I'm all for it. But if your reasons for discovering them is that it's the hottest new thing to do, than I can't wait till you discover something else to grab your attention and get you out of my hobby. I guess my posts can be thought of as "hate all newbie collectors", but there not, I welcome newbie collectors. As long as your intentions are good.

I guess lots of times it's hard to tell if intentions are good or not.

Either way, I'm probably coming off as an "elitist", but I am not. I promise I am not. I'm just a man who's pretty upset that he can't find games anymore, feeling kinds "slapped in the face" in my area, like people are just taking over my territory.

Just a tad peeved.

[Ed Oscuro]

It sucks to live in a capitalist economy, don't it?

"Damn kids buggering up the apple market these days!"

Of course there's nothing wrong with being angry at folks who are setting the scene up for a price crash...but when it comes, some of us will be happier. Don't see why there's a need for all the hostility, though. Plus, most of it isn't coming from you, Cmosfm, and I didn't target you directly, though indirectly (a bit).

[Fuyukaze]

I tend to lean twords the bitter group as well. After seeing a simular thing happen to the anime scene, I cant help but wonder if the popularity of retro gaming is just another passing fad, or in fact here to stay. As a part time colector (i colect what i want and can afford) it bothers me to see thrift stores selling DC, PS1, and N64 titles for 10$ or more. Only because its old and popular. Though I can see a good side to all this that can be quick to ignore. While the prices to buy may be increasing, so is the selling price. Now may be the perfect time to sell off some clasic games. If its a bubble waiting to pop, then it only means the buying back will be much more sweet. Only real problem with this is that a number of new gamers wont treat their systems well. I'm not targeting anyone here with this but we all (and I mean ALL) know atleast one kid down the street who scratches their CD games, puts PB&Jelly in their carts, and genearly treats it like trash. One can only chalk it up to lack of knowledge. Never knowing what they had untill it was gone. But thats a price one pays. As a colector and a player, we live by the whims of the market. Be it high priced or low.

Well, thats my two cents.


I wanted to edit this because I felt it should be included. I honestly dont believe that many older colecters hate the newer gamers so much as dispise the general lack of respect that comes with them. All to often one hears how an old game gets bought by new gamers and called trash because it didnt include some feature included with their curent favorite games. The fact that the systems have improved in so many ways is either forgoten or ignored. Plus, how many have seen people wearing those hot topic shirts saying "know your roots" and wanted to ask them how they could know those roots when its obvious they wernt even born till after it was out? Not all new gamers disrespect the old systems or buy because its a fad. Meeting these gamers is great because I can be reminded of what it was like to view games in a way I all to often forget to. As being fun. But I still think a good number are just chasing a fad. I dont blame them completely for the price spikes as that would be to easy. Easy answers are just that, easy. If easy answers solved everything, there would be no poor, hunger, war, or bad games. I think there are a number of factors at play but am still unsure what all they are.

[Cmosfm]

It sucks to live in a capitalist economy, don't it?

"Damn kids buggering up the apple market these days!"

Of course there's nothing wrong with being angry at folks who are setting the scene up for a price crash...but when it comes, some of us will be happier. Don't see why there's a need for all the hostility, though. Plus, most of it isn't coming from you, Cmosfm, and I didn't target you directly, though indirectly (a bit).

Not really hostility, just me being upset and it coming out the wrong way. LOL Gets frustrating hunting and hunting and not finding anything

[kainemaxwell]

Breaking it down, you are dead on right, this is a fad...and when they drop their goodies....bet your bottom dollar...I'll be there to snatch up the goods :evil:

You and the rest of us! I'll admit, retrogaming getting a nod in the news is a good thing, but people collecting it cause its a fad and cool isn't right, jus tlook with Hot Topic and other stores selling shirts with old characters on it too.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Ok let's face the facts, after reading what you guys think about the new generation of gamers...this is what I have to say...

http://members.aol.com/Adegan5/villager.gif

They're witches!!! BURN'EM!!

[MegaDrive20XX]

Breaking it down, you are dead on right, this is a fad...and when they drop their goodies....bet your bottom dollar...I'll be there to snatch up the goods :evil:

You and the rest of us! I'll admit, retrogaming getting a nod in the news is a good thing, but people collecting it cause its a fad and cool isn't right, jus tlook with Hot Topic and other stores selling shirts with old characters on it too.

Here's a secret between you and the rest of DP...

Hot Topic is owned by THE GAP....true story...The Gap's stock was doing well for a while....and it's thanks to their sister company...Hot Topic...(Source: CNN Business..)

[max 330 mega]

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject:
Wow, what should make people feel like they're part of a new national pasttime has excited feelings of jealousy and anger.

Guess I should be ashamed I'm "discovering my roots," and should get back to reading encyclopedia articles. Yeah.


looking at how many posts, and how long you have been on here, i dont believe im targeting you as one who is jumping on the band wagon ed, its just very dumb to see someone walk into my local game store, and say with a large grin on his face "Dude im going old school, i want a copy of metroid for nes!" which yes, actually did happen to me, and this seems to be the norm for people just now starting collecting, because they heard it was cool. it just seems wrong in my eyes, because what could be going to someone who would cherish it , is ultimately going to someone who will shove it in there system, play it for a few days, and then throw it aside to be lost for the next ten years. i hope im not the only one who feels this way...?

[Ed Oscuro]

looking at how many posts, and how long you have been on here, i dont believe im targeting you as one who is jumping on the band wagon ed
Yeah, but you've seen what happens when I go and make some statement that's seen the wrong way! Heh.

In any case, I really am one of the "newer" gamers around; only have a post count that high 'cuz I post way too much. I've loved computers and game systems since...well...at least 1993-ish, with my interest coming almost to its current level in 1994 when I got to mess around with Macs and play the Super Metroid demo, and then messing around with some demos of classic PC games and bundled stuff on the first family PC, but I never had a system of my own till around 1997/98. High school time. Then I never had any "classic" stuff until, well, I'd say it was 2001. I shouldn't fool myself into thinking my skin is extraordinarily tough, and the comments do sting a wee bit.

All the same, I find myself wondering who's been buying up the NES and Genesis carts I leave at the store - not to mention that extraordinarily beat up $6, no cables PlayStation I left a while back LOL

In any case, I bring all that up because SOMEBODY is buying these games, and doing so because they WANT them.

Wanting a silly "Don't make me go Zelda" on you is what fads are about; wanting to try out some older games is something else.

There's millions of carts for a ton of games out there, and they aren't all being sold on eBay. Rather, I think folks are trying to fill the demand and make a few dollars at the same time. It's the same thing I'd do if I was in that business (but I'm not).

Anyhow. May we all return to our happy places.

[VinnyT]

Sometimes it can work another way. This new person getting the old stuff actually likes it so much he respects it, and starts collecting himself, and doesn't seel it all after the fad dies.

I know atleast two kids at my school who have done this; one with my helping.

[max 330 mega]

yea it makes me happy when someone actually does start collecting and respecting there things and cherishing them (my best friend with my helping started not too long ago) im just talking about the hot topic kids mostly, sorry guys i guess i should have narrowed it down a bit.

[Porkchop]

If it is true that old games are the new hot fad it shows once again how dumb the owners of Gamestop/Funcoland are. They stop buying and selling NES, SNES and Geni just as the fad starts. :P

[Ed Oscuro]

Sometimes it can work another way. This new person getting the old stuff actually likes it so much he respects it, and starts collecting himself, and doesn't seel it all after the fad dies.
See, that's what I hope for.

Now I see more clearly what is legitimate about the complaints in this thread - there obviously are, to hear what max 330 mega wrote, some folks who don't have a clue about things. Still. Boosted prices - that's a "cost of doing business" that I'm willing to accept (assuming, of course, that the service is excellent).

I know somebody picks up those SMB/Genesis EA Sports carts. Problem is - what's their motivation? It hasn't been a problem for me personally; but I don't know what's being snatched up when I'm away. My hunch is that there's somebody out there who's a bigger rube than I am, picking up stuff they think is good - or who just wants stuff.

I'd love to talk to some of these people; it won't help alleviate the situation for those who find the thrifts hopeless, but it might help draw them into the community and allow them to make educated buying decisons - and help keep prices down for the rest of us.