DS priced and dated! check it out

[EnemyZero]

Nintendo officially announced that the US will be getting the DS on november 21st at a price of $149.99. Nintendo themselves have 20 games in development along with even more 2nd and 3rd party titles...no launch titles announced yet though

[richmond]

hmm source of info? :P

[Cav]

hmm source of info? :P


http://tinyurl.com/54toe

[NintendoMan]

Yep, I just read this myself on ign.com

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[davidbrit2]

Not a bad price, but I've got about $180 in imports coming out Nov. 18, so I think I'll be waiting a month or two. Then all of you guys can let me know ahead of time if there's anything wrong with it. ;-)

[Speedy]

$ 150,- sounds ok, november 21 as release date sounds even better. And we must wait here in europe till next year and it will cost more (like the GBA that costs aprox $ 120 after the price drop) ... must consider an import i think ;)

[Icarus Moonsight]

I found this tenative 3rd party launch title list in the October issue of Game Informer.

Atari
Atari Classics

Atlus
Snowboard Kids DS (I'm buyin this one...)
Caduceus

Bandai
Meteos
Mobile Suit Gundam Seed

Capcom
Mega Man Battle Network
Viewtiful Joe (...and this one...)

EA
GoldenEye
Madden NFL
Need for Speed: Underground
Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf
The URBZ: Sims in the City

Hudson Soft
Bomberman

Koei
Dynasty Warriors (working title)

Konami
Boktai (working title)
Castlevania (working title) (...and this one at launch)
Dragon Booster (working title)
Frogger 2005 (working title)
Survival Kids (working title)
Vandal Hearts (working title)
WINX (working title)
World Soccer Winning Eleven series (working title)
Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare Troubador

Majesco
Moonlight Fables
Nanostray

Namco
New Mr. Driller (working title)
Pac 'N Roll (working title)
Pac-Pix (working title)

Sega
Project Rub (working title)
Sonic DS (working title)

SquareEnix
Installment in Secret of Mana series
Installment in Slime Morimori Dragon Quest
New Dragon Quest Monsters game
Egg Monster Heroes (I'm looking forward to this one :D )
New Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles game

Summitsoft
Air Assault 2
Organizer Plus

Tecmo
Monster Rancher

Telegames
Ultimate Brain Games
Ultimate Card Games
Ultimate Pocket Games

THQ
SpongeBob SquarePants

Ubisoft
Asphalt GT
Rayman

Vivendi Universal
Robots

20 1st Party + 60 3rd Party = 80 titles at launch!
Looks like the DS will be well supported doesn't it? LOL

[Hep038]

Did the DS master get scooped??? @_@

[thegreatescape]

Now all we need is the PSP price from the tokyo game show this month and we're all set, though that looks like an awful lot of DS "working title" games for a system coming out in 2 months.

Sucks that the rest of the world has to wait months after america to get the DS. Whats up with that!?

[dethink]

Sucks that the rest of the world has to wait months after america to get the DS. Whats up with that!?

yeah, i noticed that too...maybe because japan ISN'T the biggest market anymore? X_x

[slip81]

I just got an SP so I doubt I'll get the DS on Nov 21st. But I'll definately be getting it within the next year if it looks like they're going to actually do inventive things with the dual screens and not just have one screen for game and one for the menu.

[MarioAllStar2600]

YES!

Although $150 is alot for a handheld Its going to be worth it. I was expecting it to launch at 200. Probably still would have bought it. Nice... I need to start saving. :D :D :D :D :D :D

[forcenotmatrix]

here is my only gripe about the ds
while working at gamestop we were origanaly (i can't spell this word) told by our nintendo rep, in april, that the ds was going to be a third pillar of nintendo
they had no intention of replacing the sp
then E3 comes and it is announced that, surprise surprise, the ds was going to have a gba cartridge slot on it
so now everone who bought a sp just wasted a bunch of money
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/seizurebot1011/20030324l.gif

[Zubiac666]

Now all we need is the PSP price from the tokyo game show this month and we're all set,


This is was the german managing director of sony says:

PSP soll in Japan Yen 33.000 kosten

21.09.04 - Sonys Handheld PSP soll in Japan Yen 33.000 kosten. Das bestätigte Manfred Gerdes, Managing Director Germany von Sony Computer Entertainment Deutschland, auf einer heutigen Pressekonferenz gegenüber MCVGamesmarkt.de - Ken Kutaragi, Präsident von Sony Computer Entertainment, hatte sich zuvor auf einer Konferenz in Japan noch nicht zum Preis geäußert.

Yen 33.000 würden umgerechnet rund Euro 245 entsprechen. Allerdings betont Gerdes, das dieser Preis keine Rückschlüsse auf den europäischen Preis zulässt: In Europa könnte PSP zwischen Euro 299 und Euro 349 kosten. Der genaue Preis soll jedoch erst zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt veröffentlicht werden.


I know it's german but he said that the PSP will cost 33.000 YEN in Japan.
but that wouldn't be the european price which will be between 299 and 349 Euros.

source:
http://www.gamefront.de/
-------------------------------

oh and every DS will be bundled with a free copy of "Metroid Prime Hunters:First Hunt" a demo fo the upcoming "Metroid Hunters"
click me! (http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=6973)
:D

[Daniel Thomas]

Yeah, the SP only came out a year ago, right? You can't help but feel a little ripped off when Nintendo is already bringing out the replacement. Especially when the SP should have been the version of the GBA that originally launched.

So much for the days of Gameboy staying on shelves for over a decade, eh? Does this mean that Nintendo is the new Sega? Of course, I'll be showing up to grab the new DS handheld, but I'll be mightily pissed if the games are nothing more than N64 ports, or if there's another piece of hardware that pops up in 2K5.

[neuropolitique]

here is my only gripe about the ds
while working at gamestop we were origanaly (i can't spell this word) told by our nintendo rep, in april, that the ds was going to be a third pillar of nintendo
they had no intention of replacing the sp
then E3 comes and it is announced that, surprise surprise, the ds was going to have a gba cartridge slot on it
so now everone who bought a sp just wasted a bunch of money

Cry me a river. The SP has been out for almost two years, the GBA for almost four. How long should Nintendo wait to release new hardware? Until after the competition has a product out? Sony is releasing a redesigned PStwo. What about all those people who just bought an old style PS2? Have they been screwed?

No. The PS2 and the SP will still do exactly what they were designed to. Unless game companies create a buffer, like not selling any systems for a year before the release of a new product, there will always be people whining that they got ripped off.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Hey I just got news that each Nintendo DS comes with a Demo of Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt, featuring four-player wireless play (Not bad for a demo)

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/dsmetroidprimehunters/news_6107998.html

[TheRedEye]

20 1st Party + 60 3rd Party = 80 titles at launch!
Looks like the DS will be well supported doesn't it? LOL

...I don't know where to start telling you how mind-numbingly wrong you are, so I'll just put a rolleyes emoticon below this paragraph.

:roll:

[Querjek]

Time to start selling some games to save up for this :)

[whoisKeel]

wow. i was seriously thinking $200+ launch price...this is good, and just a few days before the 'day after thanksgiving madness'. USA gets it first? weird. too bad i just bought my sp a few months ago.

[kai123]

Hey I just got news that each Nintendo DS comes with a Demo of Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt, featuring four-player wireless play (Not bad for a demo)

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/dsmetroidprimehunters/news_6107998.html


Maybe they will release more demos in the future? That would be very nice.

[Tank]

Awesome....already starting to save money LOL

*marks calender*

[brykasch]

Well I am not complaining. I just got the nes gb sp for fathers day, and was gonna get the zelda one for my wife for christmas. Instead she can have mine and I will get the ds which she new I was gonna get anyways. The metroid demo just sweetens the pot imho. Good thing is I get 3 payperiods in Nov so that will free up the extra money:)

[jerkov]

It looks like I'll (hopefully) be getting a DS with Castlevania for Christmas......can't think of a better gift.

[tholly]

looks like i know what ill be spending $150 on come november

[Avenger]

do we have ANY info on the Castlevania game...apart from just "hey its a new Castlevania game for the DS!" ?

[Lone_Monster]

Sweeeeet! Novermber 21st!!!? AWESOME! Only thing I need now is 160 for the system and Animal Crossing Ds, and I'll be set. :D

[Avenger]

Sweeeeet! Novermber 21st!!!? AWESOME! Only thing I need now is 160 for the system and Animal Crossing Ds, and I'll be set. :D

Animal Crossing DS only costs 10 bucks? O_O

[Lone_Monster]

Well, I have 40 bucks now... hehehe. But if it were only ten bucks, that'd be too good to be true.

[goatdan]

I'm so impressed by the price point I'm actually thinking about picking one up. I haven't bought a handheld system since the Neo Geo Pocket, and I only bought that when it was near death and I knew that.

For anyone that complained about the GBA SP being what the GBA "should've" bee, you're right... but the PSOne is a lot neater looking than the original Playstation, and Sony released that very close to the release of the PS2. Nintendo didn't upgrade the hardware for the SP, only changed the packaging.

The second fact is that the DS won't "replace" the GBA, as it doesn't have the ability to play Game Boy or Game Boy Color games unless that has changed. For the people who still own tons of those games, you will need to keep a Game Boy Color or Game Boy Advance to play them.

As for GBA compatibility, I think it was genius for them to include it. Again, the PSOne can play Playstation games, and so can the PS2 but no one was complaining. In fact, I still hear people that state they are thinking about getting a PS2 because they can play their old PS1 games on it.

I'm extremely impressed by Nintendo's moves here, and this may be one of the first game systems that I seriously look into purchasing within the first month of release... ever.

[Tank]

Just saw this and didnt know if anyone knew about it yet. The DS comes bundled with a Metroid Prime Hunters demo! @_@

Finally some demos for handhelds...awesome!
Also...how cool would it be if they took the demo thing a little further and had monthly demos for the DS in NP like they do with PSM, XBN, and all of those other mags.

[TheRedEye]

do we have ANY info on the Castlevania game...apart from just "hey its a new Castlevania game for the DS!" ?

Nope. None.

[calthaer]

The only way they could possibly get me to buy a DS is if a) I had a lot of friends who got it (unlikely - most of them don't own a GBA yet...they're late adopters), or b) they came out with a new Pokemon game that was backwards-compatible with the GBA ones and the only way to get Mew or Celebi was through that game.

I wonder if the DS' wireless adapter is compatible with the new one they just came out with for the GBA?

[Famidrive-16]

A new snowboard kids is good enough for me

[Ed Oscuro]

Funny how the thing hasn't launched yet, and there's already a bigger library for it than the GC ever had ;)

Oh, the GC is still a current system? My bad.

In all seriousness, though, the DS does have more games I'd like to try out on it than the GC has (including MP2 and the next Zelda, which of course haven't come out yet).

All Nintendo has to do is make a portable and everybody's all over it. They should just replace their home console line with oversize console versions of the GBA/DS handhelds =P

[Twinbee]

do we have ANY info on the Castlevania game...apart from just "hey its a new Castlevania game for the DS!" ?

I'm wondering exactly the same..

[Ed Oscuro]

A lot of places are reporting it as an upgraded version of Aria of Sorrow. Yaay. Still a good game, though.

[optic_85]

How much info is out for Sonic DS?.....Sega's support could get me to buy this crazy thing.......

[LiquidX01]

I'll throw down $150 for the DS. This will be my first Nintendo handheld since I absolutely despise the Gameboy series. I just hope the woman is ok with me blowing over $200 in November on video games. LOL

[Avenger]

Nintendo should make an amazing handheld after Gamecube, instead of another home system...aka the Revolution...which has the ability to connect to your tv...i wouldnt mind paying 400 bucks for sumthin like that cuz it would be a new handheld AND a new home system, then they would rule the gaming industry again :D

[jerkov]

A lot of places are reporting it as an upgraded version of Aria of Sorrow. Yaay. Still a good game, though.

That sucks......I mean, I love Aria of Sorrow, but I want a new Castlevania game, not an upgrade.

[Nesmaster]

i'll be waiting a few years until i can get one of these dirtcheap. not at all a priority for me :D

[izret101]

Nintendo should make an amazing handheld after Gamecube, instead of another home system...aka the Revolution...which has the ability to connect to your tv...i wouldnt mind paying 400 bucks for sumthin like that cuz it would be a new handheld AND a new home system, then they would rule the gaming industry again :D
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA LOL You were kidding right?

[Avenger]

Nintendo should make an amazing handheld after Gamecube, instead of another home system...aka the Revolution...which has the ability to connect to your tv...i wouldnt mind paying 400 bucks for sumthin like that cuz it would be a new handheld AND a new home system, then they would rule the gaming industry again :D
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA LOL You were kidding right?


no...why is it so funny?

[Captain Wrong]

Cry me a river. The SP has been out for almost two years, the GBA for almost four. How long should Nintendo wait to release new hardware? Until after the competition has a product out? Sony is releasing a redesigned PStwo. What about all those people who just bought an old style PS2? Have they been screwed?

No. The PS2 and the SP will still do exactly what they were designed to. Unless game companies create a buffer, like not selling any systems for a year before the release of a new product, there will always be people whining that they got ripped off.

OK, I understand your point, but the SP wasn't exactly new hardware. And I understand the PSX/PSOne analogy, but the SP fixed a GLARING problem that should have been adressed before the GBA was ever sold (that of the screen being invisible unless you're under direct light.) Furthermore, to somone who bought the first thing, then the second, and now finds out there's a new piece of kit that is yet another upgrade after just barely plunking down for the last upgrade, I can understand the frustration.

The problem is, each new thing seems more like what the GBA should have been in the first place. Like if Nintendo hade just held off for a year, they could have sorted out the backlight issue and maybe made the thing a bit more powerful.

Sorry, I'm a bit angry with Nintendo at the moment. I'm traveling around Europe with my GBA and frankly more often than not it's been just plain frustraing to try to play. Sure you can say buya SP, but if I had that kind of money laying around, I'd probably put it to something else. I know $80 might not seem like much, but I'd just as soon buy something once and have it do what it should rather than keep buying essentially the same thing over and over until they get it right.

As someone smarter than me once said, any time someone makes a mistake that puts money in their pocket, expect them to make that mistake again.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Just want to comment on the accusation that Nintendo is jacking everyone on hardware. I bought my GBA almost 4 years ago, when the original unit was around 150. Sure I was "tempted" to buy an SP, especially when the price drop to 80 hit. But I decided, "Na... I'll wait for the DS." My point is as a consumer it is YOUR responcibility to make your OWN purchasing decisions.
So remember kids... shop smart... shop S-Mart! LOL

And if you don't like the GBA buy a competitors product... oh snap! Thats right, when people had the choice no one excercised the option (ie Game Gear, Lynx, Turbo Express & Nomad). So now the market seems to be, cornered! As far as the DS releasing at 150, you can thank Sony for that. Now perhaps you'll buy a PSP and get hosed just like all the people that bought the above mentioned alternate hand-helds.

[EnemyZero]

Personally I think the DS is gonna be a RPG powerhouse , im looking forward to the continuation of the vandal heart series, and the new square stuff. 150 bucks isnt expensive at all....after all...i paid 160 for the original gameboy when that came out...and look how far technology has come..anywho's...

I don't know where your getting these lists of RELEASE date games...nintendo so far released a list of games coming out but they havn't stated which ones are gonna be released on nov 21st....

Im pretty impressed with wireless capabilities....30-100 feet depending on your surroundings....im pretty excited ...only...60 days to go!

[Icarus Moonsight]

I got the list out of Game Informer Oct issue... but we all know how that camp is... I just thought I'd share what I saw in the mag

Is there any news about wireless connectivity to the Cuber?

[max 330 mega]

i cant wait to play pac-pix and nanostray... i hope atleast one of the two will be a launch title.

[Castelak]

I have a bad feeling all of those awesome RPGs won't even come to the states... ; ;

[NintendoMan]

I have a bad feeling all of those awesome RPGs won't even come to the states... ; ;

That's true, but you can just import them. Maybe it will be like the GBA, I mean you don't need any special conversions for imports for your US GBA, am I right?

(I have never imported any GBA games, but I am pretty sure you don't need anything special to play import games on your US GBA?)

[Jive3D]

I was not all that excited about teh DS until today. This is excellent news. Here is the one thing that I'm trying to figure out -

The DS- with wireless capabilities will recognise another DS that's within a certain range - so that the players can msg each other and game with eachother - however what about interactivity with Wifi hot spots? It's been mentioned here and there, but I dont think I heard anything solid? Can I sit in an airport at a wifi spot and send msgs to people while I play metroid hunters first hunt?

[dethink]

what i predict: initial gotta have it furor from rich kids/fanbois, then "meh" sales from there on out.

i think the touchscreen is going to be a tough workaround for 3rd party devs, especially ones not noted for pushing the creative envelope, but who's games sell well. it will be a useless gimmick (i.e map) for 80% of the software.

first it's going with carts to please miyamoto, then designing controllers that are wonderful for first party launch titles but nothing else, and now this.

plus, having the same shelf price as a console is a sign of doom. the game gear was $149 when it launched, and this was right as the genesis dropped to $149 (or were they both $199 then?). friends with me at the time were stumped as to why i'd spend that kind of money on the GG when the genesis next to it was the same price.

$149 isn't a LOT of money at all today, but when little joey's mom, mama six pack looks at the DS and a home console for the same (or LESS money in the case of the GC), and what is he going to find under the tree?

...

what will ultimately determine it's fate - if GBA owners rush out and buy it. if it sells as much or more than the GBA, the PSP will be crushed. if not, i fear the DS will be the virtual boy's cooler cousin...

[Avenger]

no one twisted anyones arm to buy a GBA or an SP so stop complaining, if you want oyull be able to trade them in for more money towards the DS

Nintendo cant lose when it comes to handhelds, i wish people would stop using the name Virtual Boy in the same sentance as "DS", DS will do just as well as every other Nintendo handheld becuz its what people want...we dont evne know when psp is comin out and no casual gamer will wait around that long and spend a hell of a lot more money

[Duncan]

Nintendo cant lose when it comes to handhelds

It's that kind of thinking that gets companies into trouble. :o

Granted, I'm buying a DS as soon as I can get my hands on one, but only because I think it's a much better proposition than the PSP. Had I been in the handheld market back in 1991, I would most likely have jumped on the Game Gear as well. I like stuff that ups the ante a little bit.

And really, $150 is not expensive for the people that are using this as their primary system. I know that's foreign to most of us here, but there are millions of people who have never owned (or wanted to own) a "traditional" console.

[Ed Oscuro]

(I have never imported any GBA games, but I am pretty sure you don't need anything special to play import games on your US GBA?)
They're not region-locked. You can play GBA games from any market on any GBA.

[zmweasel]

no one twisted anyones arm to buy a GBA or an SP so stop complaining, if you want oyull be able to trade them in for more money towards the DS

Nintendo cant lose when it comes to handhelds, i wish people would stop using the name Virtual Boy in the same sentance as "DS", DS will do just as well as every other Nintendo handheld becuz its what people want...we dont evne know when psp is comin out and no casual gamer will wait around that long and spend a hell of a lot more money

I don't recall a lot of people "wanting" a handheld with two screens. The buzz is building now that the launch date and price are locked in, but the initial reaction to the DS was a near-unanimous "What the FUCK?"

And the association between the Virtual Boy and DS is made because both of them are gimmicky. It just so happens that the DS's gimmicks will make for better gameplay.

Don't get me wrong. I think Nintendo is doing everything right with the DS, from the hardware redesign to the aggro price point. I just had to call you on the claim that the DS was "wanted." It was created as a response to the PSP, plain and simple.

-- Z.

[classicb]

no one twisted anyones arm to buy a GBA or an SP so stop complaining, if you want oyull be able to trade them in for more money towards the DS

Nintendo cant lose when it comes to handhelds, i wish people would stop using the name Virtual Boy in the same sentance as "DS", DS will do just as well as every other Nintendo handheld becuz its what people want...we dont evne know when psp is comin out and no casual gamer will wait around that long and spend a hell of a lot more money

I don't recall a lot of people "wanting" a handheld with two screens. The buzz is building now that the launch date and price are locked in, but the initial reaction to the DS was a near-unanimous "What the FUCK?"

And the association between the Virtual Boy and DS is made because both of them are gimmicky. It just so happens that the DS's gimmicks will make for better gameplay.

Don't get me wrong. I think Nintendo is doing everything right with the DS, from the hardware redesign to the aggro price point. I just had to call you on the claim that the DS was "wanted." It was created as a response to the PSP, plain and simple.

-- Z.

I have to agree if their was no PSP their would be no DS. Nintendo would let the SP sit on shelves for years if they could but the compition made them come out with some new hardware.

[Ed Oscuro]

The truth is, the longer I look at the Virtual Boy the more I like it, but that system's gimmick will BURN YOUR EYES TO A CINDER.

The only thing that can keep the DS from being one of those "oh so cute but failed" systems will be the lack of eye-hurting. When you think about it, the only thing making the comparisions to the VB "mean-spirited" is the stigma. It's actually pretty astute.

[Aussie2B]

Survival Kids + Vandal Hearts = reason to buy DS

But for $150... nah... I don't think so. There is only one company that could convince me to pay that much for a handheld, and they DEFINITELY wouldn't have a DS game finished any time soon (if they ever make one). Hell, I'm still waiting for the SP to hit a price that I consider reasonable. :P

[ubersaurus]

Don't get me wrong. I think Nintendo is doing everything right with the DS, from the hardware redesign to the aggro price point. I just had to call you on the claim that the DS was "wanted." It was created as a response to the PSP, plain and simple.

-- Z.

Of course, it's arguable that EVERY system is created in response to another system. I doubt Nintendo would've really felt the need to move past the NES had competition for it not been popping up.

[Jive3D]

Enough with the Virtual Boy bashing! That system was a LOT of fun. Yeah, not enough good games, yeah it hurt some people's eye. It never hurt mine and I had a shitload of fun with it (and still do). I'm standing up for that badboy because he rocks. 8-)

That being said, a gimmick is re-releasing the Gameboy in 5 new skins after the system has been out for a while in order to stimulate sales. The DS is not a gimmick, it's innovation - they want us to play differently. I love nintendos approach here. They are right - alot of games are getting old because we play them in the same way, just sit there and push buttons - nintendo seems to really be going for a community aspect here and differnt play style - it looks good.

Let's just hope that cave man from the Vboy adverts doesnt come back.

[izret101]

Nintendo should make an amazing handheld after Gamecube, instead of another home system...aka the Revolution...which has the ability to connect to your tv...i wouldnt mind paying 400 bucks for sumthin like that cuz it would be a new handheld AND a new home system, then they would rule the gaming industry again :D
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA LOL You were kidding right?


no...why is it so funny?

Nintendo cant get either one right what makes you think they are going to get both to work as one?
There GBA was pretty good then they made it better buy making SP only headphones didnt work.
And on the homefront Gamecube has not reached its expectations as a system. Nintendo didnt even have 1/3 of the market until their price slash. There is very little to draw people to Nintendo that is new mostly old franchises that many people look foreward too.
I will give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt though because they are starting to come out with some new games.

[NintendoMan]

(I have never imported any GBA games, but I am pretty sure you don't need anything special to play import games on your US GBA?)
They're not region-locked. You can play GBA games from any market on any GBA.

COOL. Exactly what I was asking. THANKS!!!! :)

[thehistorian]

That being said, a gimmick is re-releasing the Gameboy in 5 new skins after the system has been out for a while in order to stimulate sales. The DS is not a gimmick, it's innovation - they want us to play differently.

It's been noted that the big N is marketing this to an older gamer.. It has many features that are simular to existing platforms such as Palm and the Pocket PC PDAs. Rumor has it that it can also offer VOIP for local calling (no word on if this is just unit to unit or unit to landline) via the many free WAPs out there.. Give it a good WAP browser, decent PDA like features (email, contact managment, etc.) and this could be a really cool product for them.

Yes, I'll be an early adopter but this is the first system in a very very long time that has me interested enough to buy in early..

BTW the The PSP will go on sale for 33,000¥ in Japan.. something like $298.00 US

[Ed Oscuro]

Indeed! Those features might end up being a bit less impressive in use than they are on paper, but they're still awesome.

@ izret101: As I said earlier - the DS already has a more impressive lineup than the GC! Developers will flock to it simply because it's got the Nintendo brand name, but it has the added advantage of giving developers cool ideas to think about using. We will likely see some REALLY cool products on this machine (eventually! LOL ).

[Avenger]

I never said anyone WANTED the DS...its not a gimmick AT ALL IMO its just a new awesome way to play games...INNOVATION my friends, something i love Nintendo for...you have to admit Nintendo has succedded in the handheld department where EVERYONE else has failed, even if they made a few mistakes...Nintendo isnt perfect no company is so dont dwell on what they have done wrong...

Jive3D : VIRTUAL BOY RULES, nuff said 8-)

and izret101....they cant get either right? thats a very bold statement a lot of nintendo fans would not be happy to hear and one i vertainly do NOT agree with

[izret101]

I never said anyone WANTED the DS...its not a gimmick AT ALL IMO its just a new awesome way to play games...INNOVATION my friends, something i love Nintendo for...you have to admit Nintendo has succedded in the handheld department where EVERYONE else has failed, even if they made a few mistakes...Nintendo isnt perfect no company is so dont dwell on what they have done wrong...

Jive3D : VIRTUAL BOY RULES, nuff said 8-)

and izret101....they cant get either right? thats a very bold statement a lot of nintendo fans would not be happy to hear and one i vertainly do NOT agree with
I just think they need more improvement. They started scewing up more lately. But again these are just my opinions at this moment, based on my personal knowledge. And I never said i didnt own every and use almost every nintendo system that hit the US (dont't own Virtualboy or SP)... come to think of it i own more nintendo stuff than anything.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Bad news for peeps who want to play GBC and B&W GBY games on it and for those who want to play multiplayer GBA games

Nintendo announced that the Nintendo DS is not backward compatible with GameBoy or GameBoy Color games; all GameBoy Advance games will work on Nintendo DS in single player mode only.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm <- Source

[izret101]

Bad news for peeps who want to play GBC and B&W GBY games on it and for those who want to play multiplayer GBA games

Nintendo announced that the Nintendo DS is not backward compatible with GameBoy or GameBoy Color games; all GameBoy Advance games will work on Nintendo DS in single player mode only.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm <- Source

And if this is true my point about Nintendo always screwing something up is true. Too bad im not that happy i was right about it...

[SoulBlazer]

I never expected it to be compatiable with them anyway. Advance games, sure, but if you want to do the older stuff you have to include a extra processor and other stuff.

Remember, people, this is not a REPLACMENT to the GBA SP line! This is a NEW PRODUCT for Nintendo. They will have the GameCube, the GBA SP, AND the DS all at the same time. :)

[badinsults]

I bet more games will launch with the DS than the total amount released on the Virtual Boy.

[izret101]

I never expected it to be compatiable with them anyway. Advance games, sure, but if you want to do the older stuff you have to include a extra processor and other stuff.

Remember, people, this is not a REPLACMENT to the GBA SP line! This is a NEW PRODUCT for Nintendo. They will have the GameCube, the GBA SP, AND the DS all at the same time. :)
How well do you really think all 3 of these systems will do out all at once? 2 handhelds each superior in there own way and a home system that caost slightly more and much less than eash handheld?
I think this third pillar is a load of crap. You cant have one company producing 3 different systems all at once and hope for them all to survive.

[SoulBlazer]

Atari did it back in the day. ;)

[neuropolitique]

Bad news for peeps who want to play GBC and B&W GBY games on it and for those who want to play multiplayer GBA games

Nintendo announced that the Nintendo DS is not backward compatible with GameBoy or GameBoy Color games; all GameBoy Advance games will work on Nintendo DS in single player mode only.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm <- Source

And if this is true my point about Nintendo always screwing something up is true. Too bad im not that happy i was right about it...

Yes, it's a collosal screwup not to include a 30 year old processor and launch with only 300 or so titles. Dumb Nintendo.