What Dreamcast games DIDN'T you like?

[digitalpress]

I'm updating our Dreamcast complete list and noticed that there are no BAD titles noted. Now I know there are a few that I personally dislike but I think I may be biased. What are some of the games on this system that you would call SUCKY (and why)?

[Raedon]

Ecco -Tides of Time Why? because it wasn't fun..

Just wanted to add I found this most dissapointing as I was a big fan of Ecco on the Genesis so my expectations were just dashed.

[Arcade Antics]

Worst two games I've played for it:

KAO the Kangaroo - looks like an abandoned PSX title and plays even worse. So. Very. Boring.

Who Wants to Beat Up a Millionaire? - What WERE they thinking?

[Nature Boy]

Kao the Kangaroo for sure. It started out okay but you get to this level where you have to run into the camera and, I'm not joking, you still have to press up even though you're moving down. What genius thought of that one?

Unhonourable mentions go to the ECW games. I haven't played any other DC wrestling game, but compared to what we know can be donw on PSX and N64 they were *terrible*. And that had nothing to do with the license.

[digitalpress]

I recently tried out "The Ring" and that sucked. Does anyone else like this one? How about "Time Stalkers"? "Chef's Luv Shack"? "EGG"? "Evolution"? These are on my list of games that I personally didn't care for but since we always seem to chat about how GREAT the system is, the topic of poor games never really gets discussed.

So whaddaya think?

[WiseSalesman]

I....uh.....I didn't like power stone 2. I thought it dilluted the greatness that was the first power stone. Also, Sonic Shuffle was HORRIBLE.

[michael]

Let the Evolution bashin begin (the game not Darwin's Evolution :D ).

[YoshiM]

E.G.G. wasn't too great. I read reviews comparing it to Zelda, so I went to the store to find it. Hmm, this game sold for $5 NEW and it's comparable to Zelda? Pfft, right. It mixes a sprite based setup for overland movement and then 3D/Polygonal for Robot to Robot and some boss combat (I think, I didn't play that much of it). It stinks that your primary attack (a punch if I recall) is so short. There was nothing in the game to pull me into it.

I agree that UFC was also very rank. After playing Sould Calibur (and THQ wrestling games), UFC and the rest of that ilk are just mindless button mashers to me.

[punkoffgirl]

I second that emotion about Power Stone 2. It SUCKS. It blows. And it's really bad, too. I can't stand the "levels", the characters are blah, and half the time you can't even tell what's going on if you're playing with more than one person..

[Achika]

Carrier...*shudders* Camera, graphics, the "soap opera" drama, bad voice acting, shitty controls. What DOES this game have going for it?

[Arcade Antics]

@the Power Stone 2 haters:

Just curious, you already know how I feel about the game (Best. 4-player game. Ever.) :D But I'm wondering: have you played with 3 and or 4 players? Or only 1-2 players? Not trying to change your opinions, just wondering...

@POG: You can't tell what's going on? You're not using a 13" TV by chance, are you? 'Cause we always play 4-player and even on a 20" screen, everything is crystal clear.

[digitalpress]

I agree that UFC was also very rank. After playing Sould Calibur (and THQ wrestling games), UFC and the rest of that ilk are just mindless button mashers to me.

Who are you agreeing with? Don't get UFC confused with ECW! I thought the UFC fighting game was actually pretty good. Both ECW games were mediocre at best. Then again, this is why I'm asking for other opinions.

As for Power Stone 2, you two who don't like it are on crack. :P

[punkoffgirl]

Pass the pipe, then!


Btw, I didn't care for Illbleed either..

[Trixie]

I didn't care for that Heavy Metal game or Blue Stinger. :? And, I'll get burned for this, but Chu Chu Rocket is a bit too fast for me. :oops:

[Iron Monkey]

Iron Monkey go CHU CHU on member "TRIXIE" head!
Fast is You're not see when I chop chop!
This Also, Is Dreamcast Rival Schools 2 NOT GOOD.

[Arcade Antics]

About Chef's Luv Shack: I actually don't mind this game. I'm not saying it's *great* but I don't consider it among the worst. Why?

It does a great job of capturing the look of the show. Nice, clean graphics.

IMO, several of the minigames are better than those in the more popular minigame games (eg, Mario Party, Sonic Shuffle) and even acknowledge the classics (eg Asteroids).

Isaac Hayes. He should be in *more* games.

Trivia - always fun, though the game loses a few points for recycling the same questions a bit too quickly (ie, needed bigger pool of questions).

So there ya go. :) Please don't read this post as if I think the game is great - it's not. But it was widely available for $5 new and IMO it's worth at least that much. (Of course, one could argue that if the game was any good, it wouldn't have immediately dropped to $5... touche!)

[MarkM2112]

Good topic! my vote is for "Spirit of Speed". This one is pretty lame...
Also, Kiss Psycho Circus was pretty bad... Perhaps we should get ambitious and start a COMPLETE DC ranking thread?

[spoon]

Sonic Shuffle=Worst AI in a video game, the Com cheats so bad.

I also did not like E.G.G. Carrier, or Evolution *Barf* time stalkers was ok, dont know why they made a sequel, and Chef's luv shack is barf.

Need For speed 6(I think it was 6) was blah, as were the Off road games, like 4x4 evo.

[autobotracing]

I HATE OOGA BOOGA!!!!! ITS SUCKS !!!!!!!!

[MankeyMan]

I didn't really care for Gigawing. But Shadowman was just dire.

[Cafeman]

My caffeinated instincts must have prevented me from trying any sucky DC games -- I never played any of the ones above.

Except Ecco, which too difficult and had its problems, I LOVED. Similar to how some people love to be whipped? ;)

Hmmm, bad games, bad games .. ah! I recall the worst travesty of the Dreamcast gaming console! A game which seemed to be an honorable update to Golden Axe but miserably failed & dashed my expectations -- SOUL FIGHTER! Boring gameplay combined with truly evil camera.

[digitalpress]

I HATE OOGA BOOGA!!!!! ITS SUCKS !!!!!!!!

Could you peeps kindly elaborate? Most importantly explain what you don't like. See, I'm trying to see if I've missed something and/or need to go back to these games to refresh my memory.

[Ascending Wordsmith]

Dynamite Cop is a game I could've done without. Hell, I didn't even like Fighting Force and most people consider that decent! Dynamite Cop is so short, you can beat the game during two commercial breaks. How come companies can't make a decent beat'em up anymore? Dynamite Cop is a giant dud!

http://cincinnati.com/freetime/games/reviews/img/cop3.jpg
The only game in history where beating up sea life will rescue the president's daughter.... yeah, I cried too.

[hades]

I agree that UFC was also very rank. After playing Sould Calibur (and THQ wrestling games), UFC and the rest of that ilk are just mindless button mashers to me.

Who are you agreeing with? Don't get UFC confused with ECW! I thought the UFC fighting game was actually pretty good. Both ECW games were mediocre at best. Then again, this is why I'm asking for other opinions.



Both of the ECW games are extremely horrible. I've gone to ECW shows and gave up about 5 keyboards, a stove pipe and a pair of old stereo speakers to the weapon matches... so I've spent quite a while 'trying' to like these games. Ugh. I'd rather put on a VHS of ECW matches and hold a controller and pretend I'm playing rather then play the ECW games.

[Arcade Antics]

Dynamite Cop is a game I could've done without. Hell, I didn't even like Fighting Force and most people consider that decent! Dynamite Cop is so short, you can beat the game during two commercial breaks. How come companies can't make a decent beat'em up anymore? Dynamite Cop is a giant dud!

http://cincinnati.com/freetime/games/reviews/img/cop3.jpg
The only game in history where beating up sea life will rescue the president's daughter.... yeah, I cried too.

@Kwaj: Funny thing is, that's exactly why I LIKE Dynamite Cop. :grin: I really do, and yes, I know I'm nuts. But in all fairness, it's just like the arcade game, hence the short playtime. The only real flaw is that it's a bit too easy, but I can play it again and again. (I don't like Fighting Force though. Ack!)

[Savedman]

I thought Dynamite Cop was pretty crappy. The game was too short and the Boss's weren't very hard. I would have been pissed if I hadn't gotten 5 of them for $6 at an auction sale. Of course I should have known then that it would have been a lousy game.

I also thought MRC had lousy handling. They put too much effort into features like the guy in the driver seat actually turning the steering wheel and choices of what car, what color, degree of window tint but IMO failed in the playability.

[digitalpress]

I also thought MRC had lousy handling. They put too much effort into features like the guy in the driver seat actually turning the steering wheel and choices of what car, what color, degree of window tint but IMO failed in the playability.

MRC?

[Savedman]

See? The game was so lousy that I couldn't even remember the name . I meant to say MSR (Metopolis Street Racer).

My Bad!! :oops:

[Savedman]

MetRoplolis!! I have been spending too much time playing games today and not enough time working....my boss is gonna be PISSED!! I need to put my dreamcast away and get back to work and no I don't work in a game store :D

[Neo-Jorge]

Pass the pipe, then!


Btw, I didn't care for Illbleed either..


I liked illbleed it had some funny voice acting. It kinda grew on me after a few games. I did not really like shadow-man and slave zero.
they just had some horrible control.



Thanks

[Kroogah]

MTV. SPORTS. SKATEBOARDING.

Oh God, make the flood of Tony Hawk imitators stop....I feel sorry for Andy Macdonald, Danny Way, and all the other great pro skaters that have to live with THIS on their records.

Namco Museum. NOT THE GAMES THEMSELVES, but the presentation. Only 6 games? Come on, the PSX Namco Museum titles had more to offer!!!

[TheRedEye]

What was that one shooting game with "OX" in the title? The one that warns you right at the beginning that if you play the game, you're going to have a seizure and die? I hated that bastard game. Not only is it the most boring shooter of all time, I didn't even get a headache playing it! Stupid misleading warning. This is one of the very few games I've ever played where I turned it off before getting a game over and put it away forever.

Crimson OX? Something stupid like that. All I know is, there were no oxen to be found. I found myself longing for Oregon Trail very, very quickly.

[ManekiNeko]

In no particular order:

4 Wheel Thunder: The game was actually well designed... judging from what little I've seen of it, anyway. Unfortunately, the difficulty was raised to such an absurd level that you'll never play more than the first round.

Atari Anniversary Collection: You've got interviews with Nolan Bushnell, and... well, that's about all that's worth anything. The raster scan games are acceptably emulated (although it's extremely difficult to get just the right resolution), but the vector titles have thin, dark lines that are almost impossible to see. If you can't see the game, why bother to play it?

Grand Theft Auto 2: Combines ugly 2D graphics with frustrating 3D control for an experience you'll want to quickly forget (especially if you're a fan of the later games). I wouldn't call this grand theft... petty larceny is more like it.

Mortal Kombat Gold: This Dreamcast edition of Mortal Kombat seems closer to rusty than golden thanks to a sloppy translation that's filled with flaws. The music cuts off, polygons grow out of the characters' feet as they fall into the pit, and you're even advised against saving your game because it could destroy all your other save files! Bravo, Midway.

Namco Museum: The same poor emulation as the Playstation game, but lacking all the good stuff. This was so crummy that hobbyist programmers designed their own Pac-Man emulators for the Dreamcast just to show them how it should have been done.

Q*Bert: I don't care what anyone else says... this sequel to the coin-op was frustrating, ugly, and generally obnoxious. I find the subtle phallic references kind of creepy, too. Stick with Q*Bert 3 on the Super NES.

Sega Smash Pack Vol. 1: Another crummy commercial emulator, this time attempting (but failing) to bring a dozen popular Genesis games to the Dreamcast. It sounds almost, but not quite, as pleasant as standing under a smoke alarm with a lit cigarette.

Spawn: In the Demon's Hand: It's deceptively entertaining... at first. However, after you've beaten a few rounds and the enemies get ridiculously cheap, slicing you in half at every given opportunity, you'll think about tossing this hellspawned disc into the microwave.

Test Drive 5: A weak, slightly silly racing game. This might have cut the mustard on the PSOne, but on the more powerful Dreamcast it just smells like it's cut the cheese. Check out the poorly designed cars, complete with box-headed drivers inside!

Tomb Raider (name it and it belongs on this list): More Boobs Raider. Yay.

I haven't played these games yet, but most people would agree that Floigan Brothers, Wild Metal, and I-Spy deserve to be on this list as well.

JR

[digitalpress]

Atari Anniversary Collection: You've got interviews with Nolan Bushnell, and... well, that's about all that's worth anything. The raster scan games are acceptably emulated (although it's extremely difficult to get just the right resolution), but the vector titles have thin, dark lines that are almost impossible to see. If you can't see the game, why bother to play it?

I'm not having a problem seeing the vectors - but then again I'm watching on a 50" TV. Also the bezels were really nice and surely what prompted the MAME development team to make this a feature in their software as well.


Grand Theft Auto 2: Combines ugly 2D graphics with frustrating 3D control for an experience you'll want to quickly forget (especially if you're a fan of the later games). I wouldn't call this grand theft... petty larceny is more like it.

I LOVE GTA2. The first game was rought because the city map was just chaos and totally non-intuitive. But I'll never forget the first challenge I faced in GTA2... mowing down as many people and vehicles as I could in the tank, found in an alleyway. Ahhh. 2D goodness.


Q*Bert: I don't care what anyone else says... this sequel to the coin-op was frustrating, ugly, and generally obnoxious. I find the subtle phallic references kind of creepy, too. Stick with Q*Bert 3 on the Super NES.

Nah. Frustrating? It's got the same controls as EVERY Q*BERT EVER MADE. I love it, it's a trip. Literally.


Test Drive 5: A weak, slightly silly racing game. This might have cut the mustard on the PSOne, but on the more powerful Dreamcast it just smells like it's cut the cheese. Check out the poorly designed cars, complete with box-headed drivers inside!

Test Drive 5 was a PlayStation game. But yeah, they've never been good in my opinion. Even 6.

NOTE: I didn't disagree with everything Jess, but what fun would it be if you and I actually agreed on everything? None, I'd say.

[ManekiNeko]

Hey, don't worry about it. I expect you to disagree with me about half the things I say... as you once put it, I'm like the "anti-Joe".
I didn't give GTA2 much of a chance to be perfectly honest. I struggled with the control for a while, got frustrated, and put in a different disc. I didn't have any problems with GTA3, though... it seemed much more smooth and intuitive to me, despite the 3D playfields.
Was the Dreamcast game Test Drive 6? Sorry... I guess I stopped keeping track of them after the second one. I heard Test Drive Le-Mans was superb, though... it's not something I'd want to play for twenty four straight hours, but I've heard it taps the power of the Dreamcast far more than Test Drive 6 had.
Finally, have you tried the I-Spy game? I haven't, but I heard it was the pits even with the cute anime characters. I'd like to see your reaction to it.

JR

[ventrra]

I think that I need to get a Dreamcast at some point so I can play some of these "worst" games! :grin:

[Metrackle]

Sega Smash Pack Volume 1. Twelve games, many of them great, all of them poorly executed, especially audio-wise. For example, in Altered Beast, the two-headed wolves look like pigs to me, and the Rattle Tails beeped instead of rattled. Not worth spending extra money on, and Gens emulates these games very well, if not perfectly (the ones on Genesis anyway).

[Raedon]

Sonic Adventure 1

[Cafeman]

I don't know if DP wants cross-arguments here, but I can't keep silent.

Dynamite Cop 2 is hardly crappy. It is short, yeah, but it cost under $30 almost from the get-go. I got it $14.99. Any beatup fan is going to enjoy it a bit. You want crappy, Fighting Force 1 on PSX -- same kind of game, but so dull and slow and unfun with bad camera . DCop2 has faster and more zany action by far. IMHO.

ManekiNeko's Atari Anniversary -- do you know you can turn off the 'cabinet art', effectively increasing the gamescreen by about 50% larger? Those games ARE unplayable with the cabinet art "on".

okay, I agree that Tomb Raider Chronicles is really bad too. Tomb Raider: the last Revelation is a more enjoyable title that that, still not really good though. Why? Well Tomb Raider:TLR stuck to the Tomb raiding, it introduced a young Lara sequence for the first time, it had creepy shadows that climbed up walls and often made me jump until I realized it was just Lara's own shadow. It had more interesting tomb-like puzzles. It had zoom-by's at the beginning of levels to show you some of the upcoming level. All these little additions gotta be worth something, though the now-stale TR gameplay hasn't changed much. Chronicles -- ugh. It looks a bit more crisp but really, these urban environments suck and it's same old thing.

Sonic Adventure 1 'one of the worst' ? BAH! :)

[maxlords]

Personally, I LOVED Illbleed and Blue Stinger, and felt that Sonic Adventure 2 sucked big time. Too diluted. Illbleed is funny as hell once you get used to it...cheesy, but in a good way, like the first RE.

Also, Timestalkers was the WORST game I played for the DC by FAR! I mean HONESTLY, whe ever heard of an RPG where everytime you leave the dungeon you return to level 1 again and have to earn up all over again!! Ok..they did it in Azure Dreams, but it wasn't quite the same...still... Timestalkers was absolute shite, and the story was lame..."Lets take people from all the different worlds we made games in, combine their worlds and make them figure out what the hell is going on!" BAH! They TOTALLY ruined the Landstalker/Dark Savior series with that game :(

Dynamite Cop was a decent game, but it was SO short that it was pointless..more like a demo than a real game. I also HATED Giga Wing, and I'm a shooter fan....I just can't stand that game....constant cheap death everywhere and no way around it!

@ redeye: That was Death Crimson Ox and I have it on the way in the mail..there are so few light gun games that I even want bad ones :)

[DarkSoul]

Blue Stinger was the worst piece of trash I've ever seen for the DC.... I don't know how you could make a Resident Evil knockoff that bad, but they managed.

[ROBOTRON]

I did not like Bangioh or the 1st Giga Wing.

I know these two games were hugely popular, though. :hmm:

[ubersaurus]

Believe it or not, I don't like Soul Caliber. Only 3d fighter that gets a thumbs up from me is VF3 on the DC.

[kainemaxwell]

Well, thanx to this thread I know what DC games to avoid...

[GENESISNES]

i cant stand blue stinger. the guy runs half as fast as anybody on earth!!! Otherwise, the game is okay, but seems like a bad RE rip off.

[YoshiM]

I agree that UFC was also very rank. After playing Sould Calibur (and THQ wrestling games), UFC and the rest of that ilk are just mindless button mashers to me.

Who are you agreeing with? Don't get UFC confused with ECW! I thought the UFC fighting game was actually pretty good. Both ECW games were mediocre at best. Then again, this is why I'm asking for other opinions.

This is what I get for multitasking and leaving messages. ECW translated to UFC in my brain and for some dumb reason I didn't look back on the list to see who posted. Must be the whole "C" thing in the acronym.

I never played the ECW games, the federation/lineup didn't impress me and the idea of "no holds barred" wrestling all the time didn't appeal to me either. UFC was pretty to watch, but to me it felt like a button masher. I'm too spoiled on the THQ N64 wrestling games and Soul Calibur, so I see fighting games in a whole other light.

[Arcade Antics]

Mortal Kombat Gold: This Dreamcast edition of Mortal Kombat seems closer to rusty than golden thanks to a sloppy translation that's filled with flaws. The music cuts off, polygons grow out of the characters' feet as they fall into the pit, and you're even advised against saving your game because it could destroy all your other save files! Bravo, Midway.
JR

You might have one of the defective copies. It was rushed out to meet launch date (it was a 9/9/99 title) and the originals are full of bugs. FWIW, my fixed copy doesn't do any of those things, and (yes, I admit it) I played the game a LOT.

The game isn't fantastic, and the models are a too generic, but at the same time it was their first attempt at converting to 3D so I'm willing to cut them a little slack. It's the best home version of the game, but whether or not anyone likes the arcade game is another story ;)

[vincewy]

Well, thanx to this thread I know what DC games to avoid...

Wait, I'll give you a few more to avoid:

Expendable
Toy Story 2 - my store had it for $10 and I passed up
Jeremy McGrath Super Cross 2000
Virtual Athlete 2K - I don't like choppy 3D game graphics

I have 145 games in my collection so far, I have none of (not necessarily bad)

-Sega sports series (they get rehashed every year)
-Tony Hawks (I'll puke when I see those 2 words again)
-Resident Evil series
-Tomb Raiders
-Most M-Rated games (violence is not my taste on video game) except GTA2, Record of Lodoss War, South Park Luv

[fcw3]

I ditched Disney Racing. Not because of anything to do with the actual game, but because it played "It's a Small World..."

That song is evil ! :twisted:

FRED

[++Valis++]

Good topic! my vote is for "Spirit of Speed". This one is pretty lame...

Oh yes, oh yes. One of the worst games in recent history. I'm still intent on finding the game store clerk who told me it was great (full price when it first came out!) and extracting 50 dollars worth of revenge on him.

[scooterb23]

Wow! You spent $50 on that one??? I bought it the weekend after it came out, EB had already cut it to $25 by that time...

[Cheese]

Evil Dead: Hail to the King
Star Wars: Demolition
Spawn
Zombie's Revenge (What'd I ever do to him to make him want to unleash this abysmal p.o.s.?)

[Daniel Thomas]

Fortunately, the Dreamcast had so many great games, so I was spared the poorer efforts. Besides, it seemed fairly obvious which titles to avoid: the derivative me-too copycats, and the lazy PSX ports.

However, I have to say that my only real Dreamcast "disappointment" was Daytona USA. Why is it that one of the greatest driving games of all time is cursed with such lousy home versions? Seriously, folks; the original Saturn port was the best.

[gmyers31]

Space Channel 5 (...6...8...9...screw it)

I just don't see what all the hype was about!

I don't know, it was supposed to be a great game but it boiled down to pressing a various combination of buttons while keeping a steady beat.

Now, I don't know how to dance, actually I don't even have that stand-still-shrug-shoulders-like-a-real-man movement down, so maybe it was just me.

But all in all the game was alot like memory, just not as fun.

[Redhusker]

My vote for the worst has to be Seaman it lacked everything that makes a game or in this case a simulation fun and or exciting,it was frustrating control and just a lackluster use of the microphone.

[hamburgler]

Blue stinger
Mortal kombat Gold
Trickstyle
PenPenTrilicon
Sydney 2000
Hydro thunder
wwf attidude
wwf royal rumble

And thats about it.

[geelw]

jess: wild metal ROCKS. it got poor reviews because people are stupid- it's all about realistic physics and learning aim trajectory, not a mindless blast-em-up. i bought mine cheap, and still play it. very challenging game! also, i-spy is definitely an acquired taste- it's more of a strategic realtime rpg, not an action game with anime characters! the ONLY way to fully enjoy it is with some sort of walkthrough for the first level or two. once you get the idea and controls down, the game becomes somewhat fun- really tough, but fun...

e.g.g. is in my opinion, a bit underrated- it was actually a saturn game for a while, but hudson moved the code over to the dc, and added new stuff. it's NOT zelda, but it's a decent, challenging action rpg (once you level up and not rush into battles).

achika: carrier was bad in spots, but it had some cool things capcom NEEDS to add to RE, like the ability to aim at monsters in another room (that STUPID door opening/loading animation in those capcom games has GOT to go!). sure, the controls are a bit dopey, but jack and jessifer move/turn faster than any character in RE...

(oh yeah, some of the crazier voices in carrier and illbleed were by ken gratz, formely of jaleco and aia games.

anyway, some really putrid dc games i'm surprised no one has mentioned:

dragon riders- TERRIBLE visuals, worse controls, a dull story that takes hours to get moving, and really, really slooooooooooow loading. guaranteed to either put you to sleep, using the dc as a pillow, or make you break a controller over your head.

omikron- a good idea really badly done. take the dull parts of shenmue, remove the good graphics, add a blander, foggier futuristic environment, two (or was it three) awful control setups, and david bowie. shake well, and grab a pillow. no wonder they canceled the playstation version.

draconus: cult of the wyrm: GREAT idea- another hack/slash action rpg, but so badly executed that if you don't get nauseous from the tilting camera and muddy visuals, the controls will have you wrapping the power cord about your neck, and looping it over a ceiling fan. just TRY to find a good-looking animation in this game.

soul fighter- when i was working in a game shop, some guy bought 2 of these, and he was ECSTATIC. we had just played the game and were absolutely mind-boggled that someone would actually buy not one, but TWO copies of this crap. the next day, he returned both of them- he wanted soul CALIBUR. we all had a good, long laugh at his expense. ugly visuals, annoyingly cheap enemies, and one of the worst openings i've ever seen, period. did someone tell the actor voicing the king: "do the worst drunken sean connery impression you can!", or did the developers ply the real s.c. with a few fifths of bourbon, pay him all the development money, and chunk out the game is a week? you decide...

charge 'n blast- more like "rip 'n off. some people paid what, $40 for a 20 minute arcade game. a frustratingly cheap one until you spent 30 minutes or so getting used to the controls and beat the game in less time. if it were stuck on a disc with dynamite cop AND zombie revenge, it might have been cool.

soldier of fortune- not only is it ridiculously gory, the AI never rises above the level of human shield. that and the almost 2 minutes it takes to load each level makes the game waaaaay at the bottom of the dc fps pile.

demolition racer- sure, crashing cars is fun, but ALL the cars in a race are EXACTLY the same, the point system is flawed, the physics are terrible even for an arcade-stlye racer, and the tracks are poorly designed.

magforce racing- a really poor wipeout rip-off where you never feel a sense of speed for more than a few seconds at a time. a few of the vehicles look like futuristic belt buckles or alien slippers, and the game has, if i remember correctly, a horrible menu system to boot...

undercover 2025: kei (import) next to the ring, the WORST dc action game, guaranteed. i'm going to post a review on gamefaqs.com and let you know when it's up. one of those games where you say "oh, the levels look nice...sometimes" when someone asks you how it is.

variable blue steel space griffon (import)- i actually liked the ps version somewhat (until the very last CHEAP boss)- the dc version looks 100% better, BUT plays the same, and at second glance, does almost NOTHING with the hardware but gloss up the mechs and backgrounds.

pod: speedzone- more like school: bus zone, or hospital: wheelchair zone. sloooooooow online play, ancient graphics and a crappy single player game. makes the first speed devils look like gran turismo...

there are a lot more, but these are the ones that spring to mind... :/

[Redhusker]

As I stated earlier it has to be Seaman-bad name-bad game-or was it a sim?it was only worth purchasing for the Mic but even then I felt cheated.



Charles R Jordan

"A Fool can ask more questions that a wise man can answer"

[TVs Hasselhoff]

Well, Dragon Rider is up there. Your intro mission is to find the brush and oil the dragon's belly. I thought it was maybe foreplay or something, but nope, just oiling his belly.

But, hey. It still beats the PS2 launch titles.

Don't want to count ports or titles shared on multiple systems, because there are too many of those to list. (Evil Dead, Test Drive 6, ANY Star Wars game). But gotta take aim at Illbleed. Whats with the blood everywhere? How is this scary for her? I'd just be annoyed after a while. No tension, no horror, just a continuous "clean up, aisle 5."

How can you diss Seaman?

[threeoclockhigh]

all of the wrestling games for starters. As for Power Stone 2, I did not like it but I would hardly call it bad, it was well executed, just not what I look for in a 'fighting game.' I am surprised as hell that nobody mentioned NFL QB Club 2000. To paraphrase a John Candy line, you'd have a better chance playing pick up sticks with your buttcheeks than catching a pass in this game. 3 and out every time. I played 4 games deep into a season and had no completions. Before you say I need more skills, I get along just fine at the Pro level in 2K2. The ONLY option in QB Club 2000 (DC) is to run the ball, the only way the QB can help your team is with the QB Sneak. The music is incredibly terrible considering the format, it sounds like something you might hear in an old Tecmo Bowl or High Impact game. The whole interface is completely shitty, on top of that.

[Jeff-20]

Can someone explain what's wrong with Hydro Thunder? I like it.

[Alex Kidd]

I've only played a handfull of DC games, cause I'm the only person I know with one, and you can't find games ANYWHERE here.
This more of a list of games I have beefs with or responding to other comments.
Except SLAVE ZERO, that is a bad game.

Blue Stinger: Why are people raggin on this game? it's like an Arcade RE. I like it; the only downside is there are SO many weapons, and none are really different, all you need really are the guns you find. hell aside form bosses you only need the baseball bat & you can change characters, but why? the only time you really do it is when it MAKES you do it for certain scenes, Otherwise it's just cosmetic really.

Centipede: Fun at first, but gets old REAL fast.

Dynamite Cop: Fun as hell, but WAY too short... i mean, I agree that it's nice that it is short and you don't have to spend 3 hours just to see the end, but since they had such short episodes there should have been more, like 10 or so.

Mortal Kombat Gold: Once again, why is anyone dissin this game, it rocks, aside from a sometimes shitty camera angle, or the fact the the shadows look NOTHING like the fighters.

Slave Zero: I REALLY want to like and enjoy this game, but I just can't... it's dull, unimaginative and boring. This is the only game I've played that I can really call a BAD game... I mean there are NO redeeming qualities about it.

Sonic Shuffle: Computer is WAY too cheap, but hey, this was meant to be played with friends anyway, however even THAT is hampered by the fatc that load times are SOOO damn long, and there are so many times when you don't even play a game, you just read some screens and find out whether you lost rings or found astone or something. for every 10 minutes of play, there's about 1 minute of 'fun filled action'.

Alex Kidd

[Arcade Antics]

Zombie's Revenge (What'd I ever do to him to make him want to unleash this abysmal p.o.s.?)

I'd just like to say that I think Zombie's Revenge is AWESOME.

Really. I like any zombie-ass-kickin' game where you can use a ten foot drill as a weapon. And the guitar cases from Desperado. Fun!

But then, I'm insane. ;)

[Saturn Sensei]

You might have one of the defective copies. It was rushed out to meet launch date (it was a 9/9/99 title) and the originals are full of bugs. FWIW, my fixed copy doesn't do any of those things, and (yes, I admit it) I played the game a LOT.



If you have a blurb on the cover that says Hot New it is the bug-free re-release. Without it your game might be defective. Ditto with Hydro Thunder and NFL Blitz 2000. Buy "Hot New".

[WiseSalesman]

Wow, haven't seen THIS thread in a while....in any case:

I actually liked both Zombie Revenge (best $6 I ever spent) and Dynamite Cop (though I only played this one once).

And, Arcade Antics, I just realize I never answered your quesiton from way back on page 1... :embarrassed:


Just curious, you already know how I feel about the game (Best. 4-player game. Ever.) But I'm wondering: have you played with 3 and or 4 players? Or only 1-2 players? Not trying to change your opinions, just wondering...

Actually, the only time I played it was with four players. I rented it for a birthday party, because power stone 1 had been my favorite fighting game for the system for quite some time. I love swinging around poles, bouncing off the walls, and using the scenery to my advantage. Power Stone 2 pretty much obliterated all that, and became a glorified mini game, having me running from boulders, or shooting cannons and such. I miss the strategy and skill behind the classic. It's like they got rid of what made it a good fighter in their haste to make is a "party game", and I didn't find the party aspect of it all that fun. Neither did any of the people that played it with me. We gave it an hour and a hlaf and gave up on it, played sonic shuffle, gave up on THAT in a half hour, and went back to playing some smash bros. instead, leaving me with nothing but the memory of the $10 I paid torent what I consider two terrible games.

[WiseSalesman]

(hmm...it won't let me edit)

Oh, and by the way, that was playing on a 27" TV (in the living room of my parents house....it was like, three years ago I think)

[Sylentwulf]

You name it, I didn't like it. Most over-rated system this message board has ever seen. It failed with flying colors, so I hate to tell you guys, but you ARE in the minority.

Typing of the dead was OK, and Space channel 5 was AWESOME, Some great sports games, but that's kinda a given. Other than that, I really can't think of any games I liked for the system

[lionforce]

I'm surprised "Time Stalkers" has not been mentioned more on this topic, I think that's because most of you did the smart thing and stayed away from it completely. That game is really bad, There was a nice selection of weapons to choose from but I could never buy them because my character always went back to the same experience level after I completed an area >:( an exercise in frustration to say the least

[WiseSalesman]

@Sylentwulf:

Yes, because Grandia 2, Cannon Spike, Crazy Taxi, Jet Grind Radio, Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, Chu Chu Rocket, and Sonic Advance weren't good at all. And those are just the ones I can name off the top of my head.

Did you play ANY of those?

[WiseSalesman]

Damn it, I meant Sonic ADVENTURE (I had GBA on the mind). And it still won't let me edit for whatever reason.

[Drexel923]

spawn is absolute junk

*looks in collection* O_O

why haven't i sold this game

[Sylentwulf]

@Sylentwulf:
Yes, because Grandia 2, Cannon Spike, Crazy Taxi, Jet Grind Radio, Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, Chu Chu Rocket, and Sonic Advance weren't good at all. And those are just the ones I can name off the top of my head.
Did you play ANY of those?

Grandia 2 - Didn't play
Cannon Spike - Never heard of (sega advertising)
Crazy Taxi - eh, not bad, it's on like thirty different consoles and arcade though
Jet Grind Radio - Hated it
Skies of Arcadia - Have it on the GC, I'm sure it was a good game
Soul Calibur - Never played it, but yes, I know this one is good. I was waiting for the price to come down, and it never did, lol.
Chu Chu Rocket - Sega's marketing, I thought it was an online ONLY game, so I never bought it. Plan on getting it on the GBA

Sonic Advance - Fuck this. Worst game I played on the damn system.

[Sylentwulf]

lol, meant Sonic ADVENTURE, I cut and pasted your list, heh

[WiseSalesman]

So what you're saying is, you haven't played five out of what is considered by many the top eight games for the system, and your major complaint about one of them is that it's multiplatform (which it wasn't at the time of release....and the PS2 and arcade versions both pale in comparison to the DC version, btw.)

That's hardly a reason to hate the system. Also, your argument about it being a failed system is somewhat unfounded. A system doesn't nessecarily fail due to poor hardware or software. The neo-geo, saturn, and NGPC all failed, and I think they all have some excellent games.

I'm not trying to change your opinion of the system in general, or trying to get you to run out and buy DC stuff, or become a DC "fanboy" or whatever. I'm just saying I think your arguments for putting the system down are rather thin, and that you may be missing out on some good games.

[Sylentwulf]

I've gotten in some pretty big "discussions" concrening the dreamcast. It DID fail. Every other system that was currently out at the same time as the dreamcast (all with worse hardware, graphics, etc... etc....) did better than the dreamcast. Wanna know how I judge success? How many were sold. NOONE has to agree with that, but the people that matter do (The people that decide to keep or lose a game, stop making consoles, Carry hardware or software in their software chains)

The System Failed. They Clearanced the price, clearanced the games, and dropped out of the hardware system, and are doing so bad now, that they've been trying to set up mergers left and right.

The system Failed. Noone here has to like it, but it IS a fact. If the system and games were the best thing to happen in the history of videogames, I assure you, it WOULD have sold well.

The controller sucked and was cheap, The memory card setup was HORRIBLE, The marketing was the worst in history, I could go on and on, trust me :)

I didn't play some of the games, but the ones I did play were not good. There were no other games on the system that interested me. Frankly, what I'm describing here sounds a lot like the Xbox, which I also don't own.

I gave the system a chance, and it blew it. Not my problem. No more replys to this post, I am SICK of arguing about the dreamcast. (oooohh it emulates, it's a god!) Get over it.