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Nz17
09-26-2004, 06:11 AM
Original Article (courtesy of Corant.com):
http://www.corante.com/gotgame/archives/006154.html

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The Games Industry Needs B-Sides
- Posted by Andrew Phelps

So I had a brainstorm in the shower. Yes, the shower. It's the only place you can think anymore with a 7-month old tearing through your sock drawer. I was thinking about the claims, made every year, that the games industry is "dead in terms of innovation". That there aren't any new game mechanics, that every game that is a success today is just a game that we've already made with better graphics or one strange new feature. The folks that make those claims would look at DOOM3 and say "It's DOOM with a journal and a flashlight. Whoop-dee-doo." I had recently read a bunch of stuff like this in old GDC proceedings because I was going to use it to challenge my programming class .(Their next assignment is to build an arcade game- and I am trying to promote original thinking instead of getting Space_Invaders_013467).

So I had been thinking about that, and then it hit me: The Games Industry Needs B-Sides. For those of you who never got your music on a grooved vinyl disc, allow me to explain . A "B-Side" was the flip side of an album, the side that you didn't buy it for. On the "A-Side" were all the hits that were on the radio, the sonds that people bought the album for. The B-Side was usually the wierd experimental stuff that the band gave you as 'extra' - you might like it as a hit, you might not. It was yours for the taking, whatever.

I think there is an interesting opportunity here: stick some "B-Side" experimental games on the DVD with the big title. Little Flash games, or student games, or Internet games that haven't taken off yet. Don't advertise them on the box, sell the "big game" just like always. But some folks might try the little thing that comes with it - and that little thing is the place where game designers can be totally off the wall because it *doesn't matter* if its successful: it isn't being independantly sold, and it's probably either cheaply made or it is the kind of thing folks do in their basements for the love of the craft. No, they won't have the glitz and glamor of the "big game". Anyone ever compare the recording quality of the "A-Side" songs (mixed, perfected, pitched, etc.) with the "B-Side" (live studio riffs, and not much else)?

I wouldn't mind an extra freebie game on the disc when I go buy Final Fantasy 22, in fact if I knew it let more people experiement "outside the box" I would specifically look for that version.

I have an idea what the critics are going to say: "no one makes games cheaply anymore" (but the freeware tools are really coming along!). "No one has the resources for experimental development" (bull honkey, just look at how many people enter the Independant Games Festical on shoestring budgets and student work...) and (my least favorite) "the big games companies make the best games because they have all the good game designers" (what a total farce).

If the industry wanted this, they could easily do it out of the profit margins of the larger titles. Easily. So if the industry really believes itself about the lack of innovation that it touts at GDC every year, put your money where your mouth is, and offer some incentive for experimental throw-away games. The way you innovate is make 20 totally different different games and find the one (or parts of some) that works. No one in the art world has every really had a different model.

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The guy has an interesting idea, but this is my spin on it: instead of just including "others'" experimental games, give the programmers, designers, etc., of a company a bit of "free time" to whip together little gameplay demonstrations. This would allow them to freely stretch their creative muscles while still on the company clock.

Include these from all development groups on the big hit games (Final Fantasy, GTA, J&D, Mario, Sonic, etc.) as a menu option (Continue, New Game, Samples), and toss in some demos of full-fledged games. Those gameplay ideas that proved popular based upon message boards, e-mail, phone calls, and so forth would then be given budget to become full-fledged games.

Best of all, there's no real extra cost to do this. Most games don't completely fill the medium they use, especially DVDs, so these samples would just go into that unused space. In the end, everyone wins: players get extras included with their favorite games, creatives get to innovate for a change, publishers sell a few extra units of some games just for the samples, and we all get to vote on gameplay concepts we want realized.

AFGiant
09-26-2004, 08:39 AM
Cool! I'd like to see it. It kinda reminds me of Crash Bandicoot: Warped. If you press up up down down left right left right square, you get a free Spyro the Dragon demo. It says so right in the manual but isn't advertised anywhere else. Just one minor footnote on one pointless page.

Graham Mitchell
09-26-2004, 08:47 AM
Personally, I like this idea, but I have a feeling that IF the industry went for this, there'd be major stipulations on what people could put in the "B-side" game. (Or not; I mean that would be the point of having them, to allow creative freedom, right?)

My 2 cents are that I DON'T think this type of thing should be included in the Big Name games. The main reason is that 90% of the people who buy the big name games don't really give a crap about an "innovative" or "outside-the-box" game. That's why they're buying the twelfth sequel in a series. You could put it in there, and nobody would play it.

I've brought this up before, but I think it's such a good idea that I'm gonna mention it again. I read an interview with Ron Gilbert (who's behind a lot of LucasArts greats like Monkey Island, Loom, etc.), and he was commenting on how the point-and-click style adventure was a lost artform today. To correct this, and to allow room for more ideas from people who HAVEN'T been making games for the past 10 years, he suggested using Hollywood or the music industry as an analogy (why not? The rest of the industry does) by bringing in independent publishers.

Since making games these days is so expensive, it's unlikely that independent publishing houses will just sprout up on their own. The same is true in movies, and this is why major film studios have a budget that fully funds an independent studio. The music business does the same thing (look at the Beggars Banquet group; they've got about 7 different labels that all recruit really arty groups). Therefore, Gilbert suggests that a profitable company like EA, Sony, or Konami simply start up an independent developing and publishing house, and allow them to make games that aren't "guaranteed-million-sellers" just to see how they do. This way, new ideas could be nurtured into reality, (and the consumer reaction to them could be quantitated; there's your incentive for the big guys to do this in the first place) and the art form would have a chance to progress.

It's well known that Brittany Spears and the latest big-budget action movie are not where innovation is taking place or where artforms are moving ahead, and I think a lot of people feel the same way about video games these days. This might be a viable suggestion.

Ed Oscuro
09-26-2004, 08:36 PM
Cool! I'd like to see it. It kinda reminds me of Crash Bandicoot: Warped. If you press up up down down left right left right square, you get a free Spyro the Dragon demo.
Konami Code!

Well, I like the idea, but instead of putting unrelated Flash games, how about failed levels or graphics from the real game? It'd be like releasing the old LameDuke right on the game disc.

kai123
09-26-2004, 11:02 PM
Well, I like the idea, but instead of putting unrelated Flash games, how about failed levels or graphics from the real game? It'd be like releasing the old LameDuke right on the game disc.

That is what I would want to see as well. PSI-OPS had something similar to that but it was just movies. Still very cool and something they didn't have to put in the game.

Brian_Provinciano
09-27-2004, 06:14 AM
Those games would be better off on a Playstation Magazine disc or something. If EA games or such actually had "side B" games, they wouldn't be some guy's little homebrew thing, they'd end up being more like small games from medium-sized companies, heh.

Oobgarm
09-27-2004, 07:55 AM
Those games would be better off on a Playstation Magazine disc or something. If EA games or such actually had "side B" games, they wouldn't be some guy's little homebrew thing, they'd end up being more like small games from medium-sized companies, heh.

Kinda like when Official Playstation Magazine drops some bizzare import demo on their disc to play. They need to do that EVERY month.