Hardest Game Boss?

[SoulBlazer]

Sorry if this question has been asked -- I did a search and I can't find anything EXACTLY like it. :)

When someone asks you 'who is the hardest boss you ever finally defeated' who comes to mind for you?

I'm talking those nasty, cheating, evil guys (or girls) who made you scream in frustartion, hurl the controller, swear enough to make a sailor blush, and when you DID finally win dance the happy dance of joy. :)

People who play a lot of RPG's and action games with bosses scattered all over the place will have the easiest on this, as some genre's have little or nothing in the way of bosses.

Oh, and 'mini bosses' are fair game also, although if you had serious problems with a mini boss be prepared to be laughed at for a long time. :evil:

Right away someone comes to mind for me. I've played numerous RPG's (one of my favorite genre's) and other games with bosses over the last 20 years. Before 1998 I'm not sure who I would have said -- but that was the summer I traded my old GBA Pocket for a copy of Suikoden II and the guide, one of the best RPG's ever made.

And discovered a whole new meaning to the word 'pain' when I finally clashed aganist Luca for the final time. :angry:

The guy is just plain outright NASTY. For those of you who have'nt played the game, you need to beat him THREE times in party combat. That's right, he gets to lay the loving on allmost everyone in your party. He can't actually be defeated in the first and second battles -- your goal is just to inflict as much damage on him as you can, to soften him up for the last fight. This normaly consist of him proceeding to lay waste to your five or six people party in a few rounds.

He attacks twice in each round. He can inflict wide ranging attacks and spells to hit everyone in your party, for hundreds of hit points. He laughs and taunts you after each battle with how weak and pathetic that you are. And his defense is SO good even your best spells and attacks cause only a hundred or so points of damage. Mind you, anyting he has left Luca carries into the third battle aganist you and your chosen elite -- and the guy has around 1200 hit points. :eek 2:

I don't even want to admit how manyh tries it took me, a battle hardened RPG'er who usually laughs at the thought of danger, to finally outlast him. Nor do I care to admit what condition I was left in when it happened -- but it was'nt pretty. :)

And you REALLY wanted to beat this guy, cause it was about halfway into the game that you got to fight him and had learned to despise Luca. He was pure evil. He slauaghted people for fun, pure innocents who were made to do awfull things before his death. He poisioned his own father to gain control of his country. He used people and his own generals and killed those who fell. He wrecked cities and marched people off to die for nothing. The awfull boss battles aganist him were just made WORSE by how much you wanted him dead.

Finally, after all THAT, you had to fight him ONE more time with your main charcter in a one on one duel. Luckily you get a chance to heal and he is low on health. And before the duel he takes about six arrows to the body. And STILL Luca taunts you before he died. X_x

Man! And here I thought Kefka, who is number two on my list, was a nutcase! LOL

Who would you nominate for this 'prize'? ;)

[kainemaxwell]

Anyone remember that annoying "Crystal" guy from Super Mario RPG?

[Oobgarm]

I recall having a rather tough time with Kraken and Ness' Nightmare from Earthbound. Hoo boy.

[Chainsaw_Charlie]

The end boss from Dragon warrior 2

Fought him six times and some how finally beat him
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[bluberry]

I know my choices may be odd, but, in no particular order:

Phantom from Devil May Cry. Not that hard, per se, as I can totally whip him now, but the first time going through the game he's a real wake-up call. Most people don't even bother to beat him. LOL

And my runner up would actually be Ridley from Super Metroid, but that may have just been because I was grossly unequiped.

[davidbrit2]

I couldn't give an exact guess, but I'm willing to bet it's something from a Megaman game.

And as evil as I find Ninja Gaiden, the bosses are nothing compared to the hellishness of being swarmed by god damned birds while crossing a half mile chasm.

[Ed Oscuro]

And as evil as I find Ninja Gaiden, the bosses are nothing compared to the hellishness of being swarmed by god damned birds while crossing a half mile chasm.
So true.

And while RPGs can pull various tricks on you (i.e. a handful of Phantasy Star bosses that require special items to be used, or maybe that's just one I'm thinking of) they're NOTHING compared to fighting game end bosses...for me, at least. Anybody with half a brain and two fingers can beat an RPG boss...but take, say, the last boss from The Last Blade 2... >_<

[Cauterize]

easily Metroid Prime's: Meta-Ridley (thats the final bosses name right?)
a few years on and i still cant finish it!

[tritium]

Ghouls N' Ghost on the Genesis. That stupid wasp looking thing. Took me 2 hours and God knows how many continues to beat him. And even then, I think it was pure luck. And then the game said I had to play it again to get the ending..... DAMN IT!

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[jenzyme]

Gill from SF3: Third Strike is insanely hard, mainly because of his stupid resurrection special that revives him completely, and cannot be stopped. I hate Gill. :angry:

[MegaDrive20XX]

Samurai Shodown 1-Amakusa (Original MVS mode)

Last Blade 2- Kouryu

Art of Fighting 1- Mr. Karate....

King of the Monsters 2- Final boss, that giant blob...cheap bastard

Rage of the Dragons- Johann....lousy...cheap bastard....ugh god...

Super Ghouls N' Ghosts- The real final boss after the 2nd run when you have obtained the magic ring..

Marvel Vs. Capcom- Onslaught was more challenging then out of all 4 of the MVC series I felt, but he was predictable at times, but without a projectile character, you were screwed I thought

Street Fighter Alpha 2- The "Akuma Mode" for fighting Shin Akuma in the sweet SF2 The Movie background

Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike.....I swear to god, I will kill the man who gave Gill "RESURRECTION!!"

Mega Man X4- Sigma's final form...phew...a bitch to kill if you are Zero

Mega Man 7- Dr. Wily's Final form...screw this...let's play Mega Man 2

Contra: Shatter Soliders- Which boss wasn't a pain in the ass?

Oh I forgot the all time favorite boss...which I HIGHLY AGREE ON

.....DEATH in CastleVania 1 & 3 and Super CastleVania 4

[Daniel Thomas]

The grim reaper in the original Castlevania. He's easy to wipe out if you have the triple-shot boomerang, but if you don't, you're screwed. I can't believe I ever finished the damn thing; as gppd as the game is, you couldn't make me do that again if you put a gun to my head.

Oh, and I'll second that bumblebee boss in Gn'G. They really used to make games hard as nails, didn't they? Most everything's a cakewalk for 'casual gamers' these days.

[chadtower]

Zelda's blue knights.

[-hellvin-]

I couldn't give an exact guess, but I'm willing to bet it's something from a Megaman game.

And as evil as I find Ninja Gaiden, the bosses are nothing compared to the hellishness of being swarmed by god damned birds while crossing a half mile chasm.

Pfft, the birds are nothing. I am the bird master. It's all about memorization and "hacking" the game. The hardest part in the GAME used to be level 6-2 for me, right where the knife throwing bitch is one a small little platform. Well, if you move slightly to the right very slow the monster just DISAPPEARS. Easiest part in the game now ;D.

But as far as hardest boss goes.....hmm....I'm going to have to say the last boss or two in Ligtning Force. Don't exactly remember what they were, but I do remember the PAIN.

[grayrobertos]

for me it has to be the viwtiful joe boses, allmost all of them just insanely hard.

Also the skelaton at the end of eternal darkness luvs nothing more than giving me a lesson in kicking my ass.

[Barbarianoutkast85]

Right now im having a REAL hard time on the final boss in Y's III: Wanderers From Y's....Any suggestions? Ive only got to hit him once GRRR

[rbudrick]

But those damn birds in Ninja Gaiden 3!! AAAGGGHHH!!!! NG 1 is easy for me now...I can beat the whole game on one life....Castlevania used to be the same way for me, but I can beat it on one life now too. BTW, if you save your holy water from the beginning of the level and throw it at the brick the Grim Reaper initially lands on, you will kill him without him ever moving or scythes flying about...keep the flame going and he's is THE easiest boss in the game.

Hardest boss...How about the Emerald and Ruby Weapons in FFVII? Those HAVE to be the hardest bosses ever.

The Shinobi series had some pretty tough bosses...

-Rob

[Neil Koch]

Gil from Street Fighter hands down, cheap ass biatch!

[Kevin H]

Mr. Big from NARC. I have the arcade game and can still never defeat him.

[GameNinja]

Personally I cannot beat Sephiroth from Kingdom Hearts.

I agree with Gill, but he is easier when you hit him while he is regenerating his health, thus keeping him from healing completely.
(so in a way the resurrection can be stopped)

I am 95% sure this is correct, but if it isnt I apologize.

[Neil Koch]

Mr. Big from NARC. I have the arcade game and can still never defeat him.

Go into the battle with 99 rockets... there's really no other way. I remember that it took like $20 to beat him in the arcade.

[o2william]

Many of the later bosses from X68000 Akumajo Dracula (or Castlevania Chronicles' original mode) could make this list.

My vote goes to The Joker from NES Batman. You've just played the most difficult platform game level ever -- now fight the most difficult platform boss ever! Ruins a perfectly good game IMO.


Mega Man 7- Dr. Wily's Final form...screw this...let's play Mega Man 2

LOL Couldn't agree more.

[Lemmy Kilmister]

I remember the last boss in Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram was pretty ruff. Though if it's rpgs your talking about, I find that most hidden or optional bosses tend to be the hardest. Look at that little girl boss from xenosaga, or the weapons in the FF series.. they can be brutal if your not prepaired.

[NESaholic]

since i only collect nes i have a hard time beating Ligar, last boss rygar, damn he shoots so many bullets (or whatever there called) at you....keeps killing me over and over again. :angry:

[Funkenstein]

I hear your pain on Luca, Soulblazer. It's pretty sad when you need to level up quite literally 18 people to beat one boss. He's harder than the final dragon.

I'll throw in the final Ramsus/Miang battle from Xenogears. Two bosses in a row without an oppurtunity to heal. (Unless you're sadistic anough to throw ChuChu in your party. *Shudder*)

I'll also have to go with the final boss for Star Ocean: The second story. I NEVER beat him. You can get all your party members up to like level 162 and the guy still mops the floor with you every time. Star Ocean games are sick.

[-hellvin-]

Hardest boss...How about the Emerald and Ruby Weapons in FFVII? Those HAVE to be the hardest bosses ever.

I remember Emerald weapon being a pain in the ASS when I played because of it being underwater and I believe it had a time limit or something annoying. Ruby weapon is a joke. Let him kill off certain characters, then use the grim reaper/knights of the round combo and also have it so you get healed when you summon. So easy, yet so hacked.

The only thing that makes that "strategy" a bitch is breeding the black chocobo. So fucken annoying.

[rbudrick]

My vote goes to The Joker from NES Batman. You've just played the most difficult platform game level ever -- now fight the most difficult platform boss ever! Ruins a perfectly good game IMO

Hmmmm...I never thought he was that hard. I beat him on second try, I believe. You are supposed to use punches on him. Once you realize you aren't supposed to use the other weapons he's petty easy. Batman is another game I used to be able to beat on one life, though I've only done it twice...once of which I got on tape! Thank God, because I never did it again.

-Rob

[Dire 51]

Castlevania used to be the same way for me, but I can beat it on one life now too. BTW, if you save your holy water from the beginning of the level and throw it at the brick the Grim Reaper initially lands on, you will kill him without him ever moving or scythes flying about...keep the flame going and he's is THE easiest boss in the game.

Having a triple shot with the Holy Water is recommended. If you look up the Faces of Death article in the Characters section of The Castlevania Dungeon (http://www.classicgaming.com/castlevania), you can see my exact strategy for dealing with him.

[Sotenga]

Castlevania used to be the same way for me, but I can beat it on one life now too. BTW, if you save your holy water from the beginning of the level and throw it at the brick the Grim Reaper initially lands on, you will kill him without him ever moving or scythes flying about...keep the flame going and he's is THE easiest boss in the game.

Having a triple shot with the Holy Water is recommended. If you look up the Faces of Death article in the Characters section of The Castlevania Dungeon (http://www.classicgaming.com/castlevania), you can see my exact strategy for dealing with him.

And that strategy worked EVERY time I played the game after reading it. As a matter of fact, that worked on every boss except for the Phantom Bat and Dracula. :)

Okay, as for the topic, I can't decide on just one boss to be the hardest, simply because I love bosses and decisions such as these are difficult to make for me. I will highlight a few standouts...

Titanic Lance: Darius Gaiden, Zone M

This guy makes R-Type's Warship look very wussy in comparison. Titanic Lance, a massive crustacean spanning about five screens, is loaded with attacks and sections to blast off. For starters, he'll try to grab at you with laser claws and move up and down with a thin, constant beam of energy. Beware of his many cannons and the spread shots he can deal out as you go down his body. He'll use two sections of that body to try and sandwich you, then send out bellemites that take lots of damage theirselves and spray lots of bullets to boot. You're only halfway done with TL at this point, but you have a pretty good idea of how painful it gets.

Seven Force: Gunstar Heroes, Green's Stage

The name is misleading if on Easy mode, where it only has three incarnations, and you only have to deal with five in Normal, but on Hard mode, Seven Force is a monster, and you must take on all seven incarnations of this rather advanced bastardized Transformer. Starting out with Soldier Force, running behind you and trying to take you out with boomerangs and bombs, we go on to Urchin Force, which shoots lasers out of all eight of its points, Tiger Force, using its tail to gun you down, Gun Force, which is a giant gun and shoots you, obviously, Eagle Force, who you have to maneuver through its wings to survive, Crab Force, sending walls and bouncing orbs at you to dodge, and my most hated, Tails force, who sends an impossible spray of bullets at you while using its tail as a whip. Even after all this, SF comes back in the sixth stage of the game, where it only has one life bar to go through, but it uses all seven of its forms in the same battle, each one as an individual attack! Arguably one of the hardest and most famed bosses from GH, Seven Force highlights Treasure's innovation and skill at challenging the players.

Gill: Street Fighter III, Last Boss

Man, I hate fighting this guy. Gill, master of both fire and ice, is one cheap-ass bastard that often has me frustrated when trying to beat him. His projectile, the Pyro/Cryo Kenesis, hits twice, making parrying a rather difficult task, his rushing move, the Saber Lariat, comes out VERY fast with little warning and does great damage, his Moonsault Press is a bit slow, but always hits right where you are, and his Psycho Headbutt leads to unfair juggles and a sudden rise in your Stun gauge. Even some of his regular attacks do more damage than they should, stinging his unlucky opponent with fire or ice damage. The worst thing about Gill has to be his Super Arts... the Meteor Strike is nigh impossible to dodge or parry, and do I have to mention the damage that occurs when hit with twenty or so balls of fire and ice? What's worse is his Seraphic Wing, which is slow, and can be easily telegraphed, but it fills the entire screen, and hits for extremely high 20-hit damage if not blocked, and even if blocked, it still chips of a good chunk of life. Parrying this move is obviously right out. The absolute suckiest thing about him is the Ressurection, which constitutes a complete galvanization of his lifebar if his Super Art meter is full when he dies! SHIT! This can only happen once in a match, but by the time it does happen, you are more than likely begging for your life. You can cut it short if you hit Gill quickly after the resurrection process, but he pushes you back when he does it, making it a pain to stop the life refill. Gill was an absolute dick in the original SF3, but he was demoted to a sub-boss and a lowering of difficulty in Second Impact, wheras a rival character of your fighter becomes the last boss... and Shin Akuma as the true final boss. However, Gill retains last boss status in Third Strike, and is just as unfair as he ever was. OUCH.

That's all for now, but seeing as I love bosses, I might add more to this thread. ^_^

[whoisKeel]

Many of the later bosses from X68000 Akumajo Dracula (or Castlevania Chronicles' original mode) could make this list.

My vote goes to The Joker from NES Batman. You've just played the most difficult platform game level ever -- now fight the most difficult platform boss ever! Ruins a perfectly good game IMO.


Mega Man 7- Dr. Wily's Final form...screw this...let's play Mega Man 2

LOL Couldn't agree more.

YES! Batman...once when we were kids we couldn't beat him for over 3 hours with a game genie. a few of the chronicels bosses are a bit tough too (ie werewolf)...i thought doppleganger was pretty easy tho, once you get down the pattern. and dracula is the same as always, so easy once you know what to do.


easily Metroid Prime's: Meta-Ridley (thats the final bosses name right?)
a few years on and i still cant finish it!

i hope you're kidding.

[Crush Crawfish]

The hardest boss I can remember beating is Dynamo Man in Megaman & bass. when I finally did it I was in the car, and I screamed like a monkey being castrated with joy, scaring the hell out of everyone in the car. LOL

[Psycho Mantis]

Gill from street fighter was hard! ressurection spells are annoying and he's too freakin strong.

[slip81]

The fianl boss in Phantasy Star IV kicked my ass six was from Sunday the first few times I faced it. And I can't remember which one, but one of the bosses in Mega Man 4 nearly caused me to smash my NES, the fact that it took me so long to save up the money to buy the system was the only thing that stopped me.