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DeliverMessiah
09-29-2004, 02:34 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/adventure/kiminotamenarashineru/preview_6108883.html

Seriously?! ... @_@ I'm not sure what to say except that Japan is infamous for stuff like this.. so sad... and that game... Way to encourage the behavior.. :roll: Oh boy!!

SegaAges
09-29-2004, 02:40 PM
hey man, with games like gta out right now, it would be cool to own this game. i mean, gta, you can pick up hookers, get some action, and then kill them to get your money back.

this isn't even as bad as that. it is from sonic team, so i do want to give it a go (as soon as i can afford a ds).

DeliverMessiah
09-29-2004, 02:45 PM
so i do want to give it a go
Hmm interesting.. Nothing holding you back, not using the stylis and rubbing with your finger?? x_x

SegaAges
09-29-2004, 03:23 PM
like i said, with games like gta out, it will be interesting to see what sonic team does with this, as i have only played 1 really bad sonicteam game and i actually enjoyed it some (sonic r).

DeliverMessiah
09-29-2004, 03:33 PM
like i said, with games like gta out, it will be interesting to see what sonic team does with this, as i have only played 1 really bad sonicteam game and i actually enjoyed it some (sonic r).

You're right Sonic Team does have good games and this one is quite different from the others..

GTA is a little different than "I would die for you"... You mentioned in GTA you can get with hookers.... (that is their job)..and in the real world, they know their profession is a risky one.

"I would die for you" is kind of real.. Average Joe stalking a woman of interest... this situation the woman hasn't consented to the behavior and more than likely wouldnt welcome it.. It just make me uncomfortable because I am a woman and I dont want guys stalking me. (The game isn't necessarily encouraging it either but the game is saying its ok)

Flack
09-29-2004, 03:41 PM
Darlin' if you want me to.

classicb
09-29-2004, 03:42 PM
i think this game sound wors than it looks. looking at the style of the game graphics it doesn't look as though it would be to creepy. I not interested more because it sound boring to me. the graphics look cool though. kind of like an ipod ad.

Aussie2B
09-29-2004, 03:45 PM
Americans have a way of, uh... making quirky Japanese games appear more "sinister" than they really are... Like all these guys who act like you're some sick, perverted freak if you play Tokimeki Memorial or something. :/ I personally think this game sounds pretty cool. o_O It doesn't sound much more extreme than your typical hentai-free dating sim, nor does it sound any different than what goes on in junior high and high school when a boy gets a big crush on a girl who seems out of reach (or vice versa). Trying to get noticed isn't necessarily the same thing as stalking.

max 330 mega
09-29-2004, 03:46 PM
i think it will be a funny game, this all goes back to the truth that games are games, and if you look at it in the right way and dont try to recreate it in real life its ok ... lol
sounds interesting and off beat.
id love to try it.

SegaAges
09-29-2004, 03:51 PM
sonic team through in some variety with a dating sim, so i mean, hell, why not give it a shot

rbudrick
09-29-2004, 04:00 PM
Next thing you know our games WILL be murder simulators!!! BWA HA HA!

Bring on the suicide simulators! :D

Shit, I'd buy that too.

-Rob

AB Positive
09-29-2004, 04:07 PM
Not that I'd condone the act of stalking but this game does sound intriguing. Depending on what the gameplay actually is, I'll agree that us gaijin are making this sound worse than it is.

-AG

anagrama
09-29-2004, 04:12 PM
i have only played 1 really bad sonicteam game and i actually enjoyed it some (sonic r).

Sonic R was coded by Traveller's Tales.

Cryomancer
09-29-2004, 04:16 PM
This game actually looks a lot nicer, and might I say.."deeper" than most people are giving it credit for to me. Seems like a decent and posibly serious game that is getting passed on as "lol girl rubbing sim".

Cmosfm
09-29-2004, 04:24 PM
I'm currently rolling up the entire world into a sticky ball and beating my bongos to the pokemon theme....needless to say, I'll play anything.

slip81
09-29-2004, 04:26 PM
I'm not sure if I'd buy it, but it definately sounds like something that would warrent a rental. Virtual stalking could be an interesting concept, as long as the player keeps it virtual.

Castelak
09-29-2004, 04:45 PM
I'm currently rolling up the entire world into a sticky ball and beating my bongos to the pokemon theme....needless to say, I'll play anything.

LOL! That's AWESOME. Hahaha...

Anyways, I think it could turn out to be a good game... depends if there is any story involved... I'm almost 100% sure it won't come out over here though, so don't get too worked up...

Side Note: When the word "Rubbing" appeared, I got some very bad images... thought it was gonna be some hentai game. >.<

DeliverMessiah
09-29-2004, 04:49 PM
Americans have a way of, uh... making quirky Japanese games appear more "sinister" than they really are... Like all these guys who act like you're some sick, perverted freak if you play Tokimeki Memorial or something. :/ I personally think this game sounds pretty cool. o_O It doesn't sound much more extreme than your typical hentai-free dating sim, nor does it sound any different than what goes on in junior high and high school when a boy gets a big crush on a girl who seems out of reach (or vice versa). Trying to get noticed isn't necessarily the same thing as stalking.

Yes you are right. But I can't seem to forget the Japanese Chikan and Hentai. Japan is the place where women get routinely groped/caressed (whatever you want to call it) on the train...I would say that is quite accurate.

SegaAges
09-29-2004, 04:55 PM
ok, so i was wrong, maybe thats why sonic r wasn't near as good as other sonic games. i knew that 3d blast wasn't done by sonic team. hehehe

Jasoco
09-29-2004, 05:22 PM
I like the graphics. I'd buy it. Ibuy most games for their packaging or graphical style. So I'd definately buy this. If it comes to the US.. will it? Or not?

Ed Oscuro
09-29-2004, 05:38 PM
Like all these guys who act like you're some sick, perverted freak if you play Tokimeki Memorial or something. :/
I agree, this doesn't sound so bad. However, some of the big-name H games really are twisted.

mezrabad
09-29-2004, 06:20 PM
I'm very curious to see if this can be done well and inoffensively. The poking and rubbing stylus action struck me as a bit disturbing. It didn't go into any specific details about it, so that disturbance must already be inside my sick mind. LOL

I guess a game where you play someone giving gifts and trying to perform heroic/cool deeds to gain favor with the person you like strikes me as harmless. Hell, it's been done, it's called "courting" and people have been playing it for a long time.

Conversely, a game where you convince someone to notice you by poking and rubbing them without their consent just doesn't belong in my personal culture as entertainment. Hell, it's been done, at lower levels it's called "groping" and at the more advanced levels it's called "rape". People have also been playing it for a very long time, unfortunately.

Since we know next to nothing about the game, I really have no opinions about it specifically but I'd just like to throw the following out there about controversial games in general:

Outrageous acts of Violence to faceless individuals? Yes. I personally know no one who has been harmed by the acts you can pretend to commit in GTA. It seems more like fiction to me. Yeah, it's nasty, but most of it seems so sick and over the top that it's more like a cartoon. What was it Charlie Chaplin said? Stand 20 feet away and see a man get hit in the face with a bag of wet cement and it's funny. Get up close and see his pain and it's not funny anymore. Something like that. Most of the violent games I've played have felt far enough away for it to be funny, exciting or at least fun.

Non-consensual sexuality? No. I know enough women (hell, one would be enough) who have been sexually abused to hope that a non-consensual sex simulation wouldn't be brought into my hobby as a way to have fun. I don't care how interesting/challenging it is as a game. It's in the same category as Sim-Concentration Camp or Sim-Child Abuser. I won't sign petitions against it, I just won't buy it or play it because I wouldn't enjoy it.

Let me reiterate: I'm not talking about "I would die for you" specifically because WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I'm talking about the concept of a "non-consensual sex sim" in general.

Cryomancer
09-29-2004, 06:28 PM
There actually is some stalking sim hentai game out there, I played a poorly translated version of it once. Cop kept catching me on the first stage, heh. (note: i put no effort or money into playing this game, it was there and i tried it. not terribly enjoyable, although it did remind me of any random stealth game)

But yes, I would ask many of us to not sit here and make this game out to be a rape sim until we've played it, it seems like a mature (as in the opposite of immature, not perverted) concept and I support that.

Duncan
09-29-2004, 06:43 PM
Personally, I'm interested just because the graphics are such a switch from the usual "hyper-realistic" 3D stuff everyone's doing these days. That, and it's a unique concept (to say the least).

Screenshots, anyone?

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/924307_20040924_screen002.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/924307_20040924_screen003.jpg

Innovative use of the dual screens, too. Looks like in this example, you have to help remove the pests.

Never mind about how "dirty" everyone thinks it's going to be -- I doubt Sonic Team would compromise their reputation, which means that I don't think there's anything to worry about. Remember that it's GameSpot who's calling it a "stalking" game, not Sega, and also remember that anything remotely risque would definitely be toned down before any American release.

Phosphor Dot Fossils
09-29-2004, 06:46 PM
I'm not going to try to get into the ethics of it, but I'm just gonna say that the premise of this one doesn't trip my trigger as being an interesting gaming experience. <shrug>

DeliverMessiah
09-29-2004, 07:03 PM
I'm very curious to see if this can be done well and inoffensively. The poking and rubbing stylus action struck me as a bit disturbing. It didn't go into any specific details about it, so that disturbance must already be inside my sick mind. LOL

I guess a game where you play someone giving gifts and trying to perform heroic/cool deeds to gain favor with the person you like strikes me as harmless. Hell, it's been done, it's called "courting" and people have been playing it for a long time.

Conversely, a game where you convince someone to notice you by poking and rubbing them without their consent just doesn't belong in my personal culture as entertainment. Hell, it's been done, at lower levels it's called "groping" and at the more advanced levels it's called "rape". People have also been playing it for a very long time, unfortunately.

Since we know next to nothing about the game, I really have no opinions about it specifically but I'd just like to throw the following out there about controversial games in general:

Outrageous acts of Violence to faceless individuals? Yes. I personally know no one who has been harmed by the acts you can pretend to commit in GTA. It seems more like fiction to me. Yeah, it's nasty, but most of it seems so sick and over the top that it's more like a cartoon. What was it Charlie Chaplin said? Stand 20 feet away and see a man get hit in the face with a bag of wet cement and it's funny. Get up close and see his pain and it's not funny anymore. Something like that. Most of the violent games I've played have felt far enough away for it to be funny, exciting or at least fun.

Non-consensual sexuality? No. I know enough women (hell, one would be enough) who have been sexually abused to hope that a non-consensual sex simulation wouldn't be brought into my hobby as a way to have fun. I don't care how interesting/challenging it is as a game. It's in the same category as Sim-Concentration Camp or Sim-Child Abuser. I won't sign petitions against it, I just won't buy it or play it because I wouldn't enjoy it.

Let me reiterate: I'm not talking about "I would die for you" specifically because WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I'm talking about the concept of a "non-consensual sex sim" in general.
I totally agree!

Funkenstein
09-29-2004, 07:03 PM
Drop scorpions on a girl for an excuse to pick them off her. Could work in theory I guess. Whether the premise ends up being perverted or merely quirky, I have to agree with Duncan that the graphics are phenominal and a nice dpeartue from the usual cell shaded/ultra realistic fare.

Jasoco
09-29-2004, 07:25 PM
I still think it looks interesting.

Graham Mitchell
09-29-2004, 09:12 PM
I personally think it looks interesting, though I wish the subject matter were a little different. Looks cool, though.

Ed Oscuro
09-29-2004, 09:32 PM
DeliverMessiah is right though- Japanese society has some real serious issues @_@
Them's fighting words! I think of the Japanese as being modern counterparts to the Greeks, actually (though for kinky sex and hip culture, not so much philosophy I'm afraid).