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Jagasian
10-07-2004, 06:50 PM
Messiah has finally shipped their controllers, and I just got mine today. For those that don't know, here is a link to the product:
http://www.playmessiah.com/products/snes-single.htm

I am very picky about my controllers, and I still regularly play my SNES. I am currently playing Super Mario Kart (as always) and Blackthorn (on my Tototek.com Flash cart). I am very biased towards the official SNES controller, so I was worried when I saw the joystick-like D-pad and the membrane based select and start buttons on the Messiah wireless controller.

I only ordered one controller as I just want to taste test it, and if I like it I will buy another 3 (for 4 player games of course). The product came in a brown shipping box with tons of foam peanuts inside protecting a very professional looking retail boxed Messiah Wireless SNES controller. Opening up the retail box I see the controller, the wireless dongle, a Messiah dog tag, 2 AAA batteries for the controller, an instruction manual, and a few other inserts. Like any real gamer, I threw everything to the side except the actual hardware...

I just fired up Blackthorn for a quick check of the controller and I got about 15 minutes of game testing in. First impressions are good, but I will save a complete review until I get more game time with the controller. Here is what I can say so far:

The D-pad seems to be VERY sensetive! I noticed this when I had to enter a continue password in Blackthorn. This requires left/right D-pad movement to select the character position and up/down D-pad movement to select the actual character. It seemed a little too easy to accidentally press right while you were pressing down. The official SNES D-pad doesn't have this problem, but playing Street Fighter 2 shows the drawback of the SNES D-pad: you can't do circular motions worth a damn!

The membrane select and start buttons are very responsive and I haven't found any real problem with them. I actually like the idea as membrane buttons are the most durable type of button as they are sealed from outside elements that can dirty up other button technologies. The biggest drawback is that they lack tactile feedback: there is no press or click feel. Most games use select and start for inventories, menus, and pausing... and there is little reason to have tactile feedback for these functions.

The A, B, X, Y, R, and L buttons are pretty standard. They have a slightly different feel compared to the official SNES controllers, but only somebody as picky as me would notice any difference. The official SNES controllers have very tight buttons that allow very little movement when pressed, while the Messiah controller's buttons have about twice the movement distance from unpressed to pressed. This means that the Messiah A thru R buttons have slightly more tactile feedback than the official buttons. Which is better? It is a matter of taste, and in the end it makes very little difference.

So the jury is still out on the D-pad. I am going to try some games that only accept pure up, down, left, or right directions and not diagonals... which could be a problem for this kind of a D-pad. I will also try out fighting games like Street Fighter 2 Turbo, which is D-pad intensive to say the least. In a few days I will give a final verdict on the D-pad.

As of now, I must say that I am impressed. The controller is shaped very much like the official SNES controller, but it is slightly thicker, and they both weigh about the same, i.e. the Messiah controller is extremely lightweight and small, unlike other modern bulky, heavy wireless controllers. I hope the D-pad works out because my current setup with official SNES pads connected via 6 foot extension cables is a total tangle-proned mess that people seem to love to trip over.

A real SNES is still far better than emulation, so long live the SNES!

classicb
10-07-2004, 08:25 PM
I've been waiting for the verdict to come out on these. So I'll be watching the responses come in. So far at the very least it sounds like a good solid controller. I guess only time will tell if its a great one. I think I'm going to try and pick up a NES and SNES since someone in another thread said the diaganol movement was good in Tecmo Bowl :)

Phosphor Dot Fossils
10-08-2004, 07:02 PM
I got a look at DasCrewShtool's Messiah controllers today, and I think I know what I want Santa to bring me for Christmas. :D You will NOT be disappointed.

Flack
10-08-2004, 07:58 PM
I just got mine as well ... pictures coming shortly.

Flack
10-08-2004, 08:08 PM
http://robohara.com/junk/messiah1.jpg

I ordered the limited edition 2 joystick set, which comes complete with the coolio metal lunchbox. Below the lunchbox is the Messiah pamphlet, which unfolds into a poster -- how old school is that?

http://robohara.com/junk/messiah2.jpg

Ain't no Thermos in there, boy ...

http://robohara.com/junk/messiah3.jpg

Top left, original SNES gamepad. Top right, old Akklaim Dual Turbo wireless SNES gamepad. The bottom one is the new one from Messiah.

http://robohara.com/junk/messiah4.jpg

Several people have talked about the thickness of the new wireless gamepads. Here are those three, side by side.

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Overall, the stick feels GREAT! Yes, the round stick feels a little different than the traditional d-pad, but so far it works surprisingly well. I am not disappointed at all.

For those who haven't seen/read/heard, the pamphlet mentions upcoming Atari 2600 and Genesis controllers to go along with their NES and SNES lineup. Can't wait!

classicb
10-08-2004, 09:14 PM
thanks for the picks Flack its nice to see real world photos of them. it really looks like people who love video games made these. everything is backordered on their site which is a good sign that these sold well. I sent an email asking about them and this is what I got (for people who are still trying to get these)

"Well we are expecting a shipment by the end of next week. If you are
interested in the Limited Edition version, I recommend ordering as early as
possible so you can guarantee a low number. We are only manufacturing 5000
Limited Edition versions.. and they are all numbered with a hologram
sticker. Let me know if you have any more questions."

Flack
10-08-2004, 09:25 PM
I didn't even notice the sticker, forgot all about it.

0021 out of 5000.

Mayhem
10-09-2004, 06:51 AM
You never conditioned your thumbs properly then Jagasian... I could pull off Zangief's spinning piledriver on a SNES pad fairly easily back in the day ;)

kai123
10-09-2004, 09:09 AM
Quick question about these, why didn't they just use a standard d-pad? I don't think anyone holds the patent to it do they? I wouldn't mind one set for both snes and nes but the d-pad has me put off for some reason.

Jagasian
10-09-2004, 09:43 AM
Quick question about these, why didn't they just use a standard d-pad? I don't think anyone holds the patent to it do they? I wouldn't mind one set for both snes and nes but the d-pad has me put off for some reason.

Nintendo used to have a patent on their D-pad, but I am not sure if the patent has expired yet or not. Like I said, I am really picky about the SNES controllers, and once I get ample game play time with my new controller, I will post my final verdict on the Messiah D-pad versus the Nintendo D-pad.

maxlords
10-09-2004, 10:34 AM
Nintendo still has the patent to those D-pads and it's NOT cheap to use it. And have the NES ones shipped yet? They keep taunting me in my dreams...

playmessiah
10-12-2004, 01:24 AM
And have the NES ones shipped yet? They keep taunting me in my dreams...

Yeap... they shipped the same time as the SNES. We were a few units short of filling all the orders, but the balance should ship out this week. We are really excited to hear what everone thinks of the controllers.

hydr0x
10-14-2004, 04:14 AM
just 2 quick questions...


are the controllers 5-player compatible?? judging from what i see on your site they are 2-player only which would be a big drawback

do you ship to germany?? :D

playmessiah
10-14-2004, 07:10 AM
just 2 quick questions...


are the controllers 5-player compatible?? judging from what i see on your site they are 2-player only which would be a big drawback

do you ship to germany?? :D

The controllers are 4 player compatible only so if you want to use the 5th player you need to use one wired controller.

Sure, no problem... We will ship to Germany, but you will have to pay for shipping. Shipping is a little high when going international but it is not so bad if you order more than one item. Drop me an email with your address and I will get you a quote on shipping.

sales@playmessiah.com

We have already shipped units to the folllowing areas:
The Netherlands
New Zealand
United Kingdom
and of course the US and Canada

We would love to add Germany to the list :D

Flack
10-14-2004, 10:37 AM
are the controllers 5-player compatible?? judging from what i see on your site they are 2-player only which would be a big drawback

What 5 player games were there?

I do good to get a 2nd person to come game with me these days!