SOLD: Atari 5200 + 28 games!

[Iron Draggon]

Pics of the items for sale are posted HERE! (http://www.gayrollerride.com/secretpics.html) I will consider any reasonable offers for them!

The TV is NOT for sale!

4 port model and 2 Wico joysticks with keypads! No box, but I do have the owner's manual. I also have the manuals for all the games, but no overlays. Everything is in fairly good condition, but it's not perfect. I will be posting some pics of everything later. Every official Atari release is included, but no 3rd party games, so this is a great starter set for a complete 5200 collection. I am the original owner, and I have only replaced the power supply and the switch box. Everything has been fully tested and the only thing that doesn't work is one of the keypads. So you will need to use that one for player two in order to be able to start the games, and player two will not be able to do anything that requires any of the buttons on the keypad. Both joysticks still work though, so player two will still be able to move and fire, they just won't be able to use any of the buttons on the keypad. It may be rapairable, but I don't know enough about it to fix it myself. For this reason, I have reduced the price accordingly, but you can always buy a new controller if you need it.

Games:

Baseball
Berzerk
Centipede
Choplifter
Countermeasure
Defender
Dig Dug
Football
Galaxian
Joust
Jungle Hunt
Kangaroo
Mario Bros.
Missile Command
Moon Patrol
Ms. Pac Man
Pac Man
Pengo
Pole Position
Qix
Robotron 2084
Soccer
Space Dungeon
Space Invaders
Star Raiders
Super Breakout
Tennis
Vanguard

The price for everything is $200 plus shipping.

I will break it all down like this:

System: $50 plus shipping

Controllers: $100 plus shipping (These normally sell for $100+ apiece on ebay WITHOUT the keypads, but since one keypad isn't working I am selling them CHEAP. I paid $50 apiece for them when they were brand new, and these are very rare and very hard to come by, so this is a DEAL on these joysticks!)

Games: $50 plus shipping for all of them or $2 plus shipping apiece

Shipping will be determined by actual charges to your desitination. This is a fairly large and heavy lot, so please be prepared for alot of shipping charges. I am estimating about $50 shipping for everything, but it may be more or less. I really don't know, as I have not packed everything and weighed it yet, but I will have it weighed and post estimated shipping charges for it here ASAP.

Pics of everything will be posted here ASAP as well. It has seen better days, but it's not completely trashed. This would make a great Christmas present for a retro gamer, but I need to sell this ASAP, as I am in dire need of cash!

THANKS!

[Iron Draggon]

Pics of the items for sale are now posted on the link at the top of the listing!

[Iron Draggon]

OK y'all, clue me in, because I've never tried to sell anything like this before. I know the controllers are pretty high for one to have a nonworking keypad, but I also know that the sticks alone do sell for no less than $75 apiece on ebay, so to get a pair of them for only $100 and still have a pair of keypads to go with them too really is a good deal, even if one keypad isn't working. The only time that I've seen these controllers go for less is when they aren't working, but most of the games don't even require a keypad for player two anyhow, so it really isn't as bad as it sounds to have one that isn't working. Besides, it may still be repairable like I said, I just dunno how to fix it myself.

So aside from the expense of the controllers, which are only that expensive because they're so rare and they work so well, the only thing I see that I may be asking a little too much for is the system itself. But considering that I had to spend about $25 total just to replace the switchbox and the power supply for it, that doesn't make it sound like it's really overpriced either. And I know that I'm offering a good deal on the games, because alot of these are listed for alot more than just $2 in the online rarity guide, so what is it? Bad timing? Is everyone just too broke to spend this much money on it right now? I need to know because all this stuff is going on ebay next week if I can't sell it here, and I'm trying to avoid a bunch of expensive listing fees.

I'm going to the post office tomorrow, so I will try to get an estimated cost for the shipping on all this stuff while I'm there, maybe that's why nobody is even making any offers on it yet. I really can't think of anything else. It all works except for that one keypad, and it's all in good condition at best, fair condition at worst. So I'm scratching my head here, I didn't think that I'd have any problems at all selling it here for this price, but I'll just take my chances with it on ebay before I mark any of it down here, so if you're waiting for me to do that then you might wanna grab it before it goes up on ebay. I'm gonna play the hell out of those rare controllers there, and I might even end up getting $300 out of it that way, because it will have a $200 reserve on it for sure, if I have to go to all the trouble of listing it there.

[Flack]

The problem with lots like this is:

People who are interested in the 5200 most likely have one.

People who aren't interested in the 5200 don't want to drop $250 to try it out.

That's oversimplified of course, but you see the dilemna. Do you have any normal 5200 controllers? Maybe you could package the system with them, and break it up into two lots -- one with the system and the games (and the original sticks), and one with the other sticks? Just an idea.

I would never shit on someone's for sale thread, but since you are asking for feedback I thought I'd give some.

5200 system, with great looking box - Sold, $31
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=8133439975&rd=1

2 5200 Systems, 17 games - Sold, $30 (untested)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=8134310804&rd=1

Trust me, I feel your pain -- I have a 5200 in my garage that I refuse to sell because no one will give me what it's worth, much less what I paid for it. Of course, the holiday season is coming up, which means all eBay rules are about to be thrown out the window for 4-6 weeks!

[video_game_addict]

Your overall price for the lot doesn't sound that bad. I could definitely see someone hitting the BIN for $200 on that on ebay. But your per piece prices are a little skewed.

$50 for a system without controllers is not gonna happen. I don't think I even got $50 for the system with working controllers when I sold one a few months back. Without any controllers you are looking at $25 maybe.


Games all with manuals that price is pretty good, maybe a little low, I could see it going higher which would help even out the system price lol.


The Wicos I think you are overpricing a bit too. Wico by itself, is around $30 With keypad added, around $50-75, of course with a non-working keypad it'd be in the low end, so maybe $50-75 on one set & $30-40 on the other set with broken keypad.
So about $100 total still, but they way you talk them up, saying $75 per controller without the keypad I think you are a little off there. But again that's right in line with what your total is, but your individual prices are a little off. So I'd say you are asking top price for the set overall, not out of line to want that or to get it on ebay, but probably not gonna yield alot of interest here, where fewer Atari players roam.

Oh and the keypads have a problem with the cable sometimes. I have one that doesn't work, much the same as yours, the joystick works thru it, but the buttons on keypad won't work. I believe the cable going into it, breaks inside. if you had a spare 5200 stick you could use it to wire up to the keypad & fix. It's nothing wrong with the buttons it's has to do with the cable.


Also I think you missed a few Atari licensed games. ;) You are a few short of the complete set on those.

[Iron Draggon]

OK, thanks for the input. I just wanted to find out if I was gonna be wasting my time putting a $200 reserve on it on ebay. I don't have any regular 5200 controllers for it though, so this is it. I don't know what all this stuff usually goes for here, but I have been watching all the 5200 auctions on ebay for a year now. Trust me, I am NOT making up the value of those controllers on ebay. If any of them go for less than $75 apiece WITHOUT the keypads, then they are BROKEN. I have seen them go for as much as $150 apiece there. It's true that some systems with alot of games do go for alot less than what I'm asking. But that's only when the seller is stupid enough to not put a reserve on it. Of course somebody could buy this whole lot for under $100 if I didn't put a reserve on it, that's why I'm gonna put a reserve on it.

I would love to be able to wait until it gets closer to Christmas to try and sell it, but I really need to sell it NOW, if I can. I may have to wait, if I can't get what it's worth, but I'm not trying to be greedy so it seems kinda silly to me to wait until December just so I can milk an extra $100 out of it. I dunno though, maybe I should. I have seen some 5200 lots go for over $300, but those were really mint lots with the boxes and manuals and everything in absolutely mint condition or brand new. My carts and manuals are not all mint like that. Some of the carts are near mint, some are good, some are fair. But the manuals are all in only fair condition. I wouldn't say that any of them are in good condition. That's why I'm selling those for alot lower than what the online rarity guide says they're worth. As for the system itself, I think it's in good condition, and so are the controllers, except for that broken keypad. Thanks for the tip on that, I'll open it up again and see if I can figure out what the wiring problem is. I checked the connection to the circuit board, and it seemed to be OK, so I dunno about it, maybe the cable got crimped or something and broke one of the wires inside. I have a continuity meter, so I'll try to check that. Do y'all know where I can get a pinout diagram for the cables, so I know which ends to test? I don't wanna cut the sheath open just to see which color wire is going to which pin on the connector.

As for the games, I see that I am missing the two white box games, and the Gremlins game. I didn't know anything about those. If I had known they were actually released, I would've bought them when they first came out. I wish that I had more money to spend to complete this lot, I just saw a very nice factory sealed copy of Gremlins sold there for under $50, and there's another one up right now starting at only $1, so I could get that one easily. I dunno, maybe I'll keep an eye on those, it would be nice to check it out before I sell the system, but I'd need a loose copy for that. I see that I just missed an MIB one for only $10, so I could afford to spend that much on it. I had no idea that game was ever even released, so I'm very curious about it. The two white box games seem to be easy enough to come by cheaply too, so maybe I will try to pick them up to complete the lot and sell it in time for the holidays, but I'd really rather just get rid of it without investing anymore money into it. It's bad enough that I had to spend $25 just to get it working again, but at least I can play it in the meantime before I sell it now.

I can't believe how well all the games still hold up, compared to the games of today. This system really was ahead of it's time. I still hear alot of people knocking it, because of the crappy controllers, but it really did usher in alot of new innovations that are still found in most of the modern systems today. The pause button began on the 5200, and we all know what a necessary feature that is for videogames, so how long do you think it would've taken to get that implemented into modern systems if it hadn't been pioneered on the 5200? The NES might not have had that feature if the 5200 hadn't done it first. Were there any other systems that allowed up to 4 controllers to be plugged in at one time before the 5200? If there were, I don't know who did it first, but I think that was a first on the 5200 also. It's a shame that the only game to take advantage of it was Super Breakout, but I'm sure that somebody must've had some really fun 4 player matches in that game. I never had enough controllers to try it myself, but I always wanted to. And then there's the automatic RF switchbox. That innovation is right up there with the pause button. The NES might not have had that feature if the 5200 hadn't done it first either. So just imagine playing your NES with no pause button, and having to go to the back of the TV and switch from that to the game every time you wanted to play, like we had to with the 2600. Would the NES have been as popular without those features? Of course it would, but it wouldn't have been nearly as nice of an experience to play.

So for all that, I still love the 5200, and I kinda hate to sell it, now that I finally have it working again. I had forgotten what all the games looked like, and they don't look as good as I remember them, but they still look alot better than I expected them to, compared to all the modern games that I own now. None of them are really lame at all, and most of them are just as exciting and fun to play now as they were 20 years ago. But the really wild thing is, I'm doing alot better at the games I used to suck and, and I'm doing alot worse at the games I used to be good at! So it's a real trip down memory lane to play all those games again after taking a break from them for so long. But the gameplay with those Wico sticks is still arcade perfect, and whoever ends up getting this lot should be one very happy gamer. If you've only played the 5200 with the standard controllers, then you really should play it with the Wico sticks. If it had come with those, it might've given the Colecovision alot more of a fight than it did. By the way, that reminds me, the 5200 was the first system to feature analog sticks too! Now that really was way ahead of it's time there. Just look how much we have come to rely on analog sticks now, you could barely play some games without them now!

Well, I guess I'd better stop reminiscing about this system, or I'm gonna talk myself out of selling it. I hope that someone who reads all this will realize what a great system the 5200 really is, if they're not sure about this lot. Sure, the 7800 had much better graphics, but not that much better, and the 5200 graphics aren't that bad. The only reason the 7800 did a little better than the 5200 did was because it had better controllers and it was backwards compatible with the 2600. But other than that, the 5200 was right on par with it, and most of the games looked about the same on both systems anyway. So I'm really impressed with how this system and it's games have held up over the years. It still kicks the 2600 right square in the ass, so to me it really is what it was advertised to be. The first wave of the new generation of videogames. Everything that has come after it has merely built upon the foundation that the 5200 laid out for the home console world, and there's no denying that it was light years ahead of it's time for innovations. It's just a shame that more people don't appreciate it for what it did for us.

[98PaceCar]

I'd love to buy this, or another bulk 5200 system with games. I'm not interested in the fancy controllers and would really rather have the stock ones. But, it's hard to pony up $100 + shipping for a 5200. Like Flack said, there's cheaper ones on ebay. But you do have the advantage of being a dp member and that carries some weight with me as far as reliability. PM me if you are interested in haggling a little bit.

[Iron Draggon]

Gee, do you really think the shipping would be as much as $100 or more? Where are you? I thought that estimating $50 for shipping was overdoing it, unless you're overseas. I want to get this stuff weighed and find out what the actual shipping range would be before I start haggling, but I will get in touch with you about it ASAP. I might be willing to take a little less for it all.

[jonjandran]

I think he meant he didn't want to pay $100 and shipping on top of that. :)

[98PaceCar]

Yea, I was saying $100 for the system/games and then shipping on top of that. I could probably ship an entire arcade cab for not much more than $100 if I tried, so hopefully a 5200 is less!! ;)

My zip is 75002 (Allen Texas). Let me know what you think it'll be.

[Iron Draggon]

Oh OK cool, I'm in TX too, so it shouldn't be very much to ship it there.

[Iron Draggon]

Well I didn't make it to the post office today as planned, because I got held up at the box store, but now that I have a box that everything will fit in, I'm gonna check on the rates for UPS ground too, as it would probably be alot cheaper to ship something this heavy that way than it would be by USPS. So I'll have an estimate tomorrow for sure, but I can tell you now that it weighs at least 25 pounds when it's all in one box, and it's probably more than that.

[Iron Draggon]

OK, I finally got it all weighed and the shipping is only approximately $25 by UPS ground or USPS first class. USPS priority mail is only about $10 more. This estimate is for shipping to the east or west coast though, so it would actually be alot cheaper for it if you are closer to my area. (Houston, Texas)

[Iron Draggon]

Well I dunno why I didn't think about posting it for sale over at Atari Age sooner, but it finally occurred to me to try it over there too, and it's sold!