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Wavelflack
10-11-2004, 07:56 PM
There are a good 20-30 irritatingly overused catchphrases currently in play in the gaming world, but I'll start with "fanboy".

Here's a simple two part question:

A. Are you completely burned out on the word "fanboy"?

and

B. Do you suppose a hip, new replacement word is on it's way?


Personally, I don't remember ever using that word. I remember some guy trying to be clever by altering the spelling to "fanboi", but that only makes it appear gay and French* ("fanbwah").

Anyway, the whole concept of bitching about the fans of game systems, companies, and/ or game series'/franchises (etc.) seems somewhat pointless, or perhaps a waste of time. Any sports fans out there? Do you support a particular team, even if they are having a bad season or game? Or do you go the purely logical route and watch/support whoever the current top scoring team is at the moment?

I do have a soft spot for Sega, and also for some lesser companies (Nintendo**). I see nothing wrong with this. I'm not interested in painting "SEGA" on my face and making a fool out of myself, but nostalgia and a very long line of excellent game experiences have made me a supporter of the company, and interested in what they create. I see this as reasonable, especially in light of the legitimacy given to sports fans and their tendencies. How would you regard a person who just spent $250 on a Sega or Nintendo jacket? In the sports world this is viewed as "quite right".


I have more to add, but it's your turn.






*I know that's redundant
**Inserted to get the Nintendo crowd fired up.

scooterb23
10-11-2004, 08:01 PM
I am definitely sick of the term fanboy, but since dipshit it too general...I guess it is the best term for it at this time :)

poe
10-11-2004, 08:06 PM
Tell you what. Come up with a better one-word description of http://www.finalfantasycosplay.it/ , and we'll use that going forward.

MegaDrive20XX
10-11-2004, 08:06 PM
Why is it, whenever something goes wrong, a game is overrated, or someone tries to say "Hey I like this game" someone has to shout out "Fanboy"

A. Yes, it has run it's course and has gotten old

B. Probably won't be replaced because over a million still use it




P.S. Fuckin fanboys.... LOL jk

Dobie
10-11-2004, 08:39 PM
While "fanboyism" as a concept is still quite valid, I think people often overuse and mis-use the term. A lot of the time, "fanboy" is thrown out by people as a divisive weapon of sorts--kind of how "liberal" and "conservative" terms get thrown around in the political arena. The person weilding "fanboy" as a weapon typically wants to make themselves appear more "hardcore," superior and aloof to those being accused of fanboyism. Pretty lame.

Is it possible there are "fanboys" of "fanboyism?"

NE146
10-11-2004, 08:41 PM
Although I've been a gamer since the 70's (and a constant one at that). I've personally never used the term. It doesn't really mean much to me. To me, it just sounds like you're a fan!

Jibbajaba
10-11-2004, 08:48 PM
Well I'll disgree with everyone so far and say that I like the term "fanboy". It can be applied not only to gamers, but non-gamers as well. To me anyone who has blind faith in a company, material item, or person (jesus christ is an exception, assuming you are a Christian) is a fanboy.

"I don't care if my PS2 HAS had 3 DRE problems! Sony pwns and Microsoft suxorz!!!"

"Man, my Corvette has broken down seven times, and I once got stranded in Compton for 4 hours. But I don't care. I would never buy anything but a Chevy."

"My girlfriend cheats on me more often then she has sex with me and she has maxed out all of my credit cards, but I don't care. I love her anyway."

Fanboys. :roll:

Chris

Flack
10-11-2004, 08:48 PM
Yes, the term is almost as annoying as fanboys themselves.

Saying that you have a soft spot for Sega doesn't make you a fanboy. It's people that argue blindlessly for their favorite company that earn that label. I don't fault anyone for saying, "I love Nintendo" or "I love Sony". It's the people that automatically hate anything from Nintendo or Sony before even seeing them or knowing the facts. Or the people who were arguing whether the Nintendo DS was better than Sony's PSP before seeing either.

punkoffgirl
10-11-2004, 08:49 PM
I HATE the term "fanboy." It's annoying, and overused. It's usually only thrown around when someone else has run out of valid arguments and wants to start name calling.

captain nintendo
10-11-2004, 09:30 PM
Fanboy talk and people who troll for fanboys suck.
Cant people like a game without being raked over hot coals ?
Better yet , why arent we allowed to like something different than you without being flamed ?

(by you I mean the people trolling or "fanboy") ;)

Half Japanese
10-11-2004, 09:49 PM
I have no problem with someone preferring or being a diehard fan of one system over another, that's absolutely fine. I also don't mind people giving their opinions of things to come (see: PSP vs DS). What does get on my nerves is when people start judging things they've never laid hands on, already taking sides and throwing insults without ever having tried it.

Who am I to tell you that a peanut butter n' pickle sandwich is nasty? I've never had one and have no point of reference.

In cases like that, the term fanboy applies I think. The word itself isn't an ear pleaser, but it's apt and everyone knows what you're talking about when you use it. Come up with a new word that's catchy and has a negative connotation and I'll pick it up.

Preferences are preferences, but blind judgement is foolish.

Ed Oscuro
10-11-2004, 09:53 PM
Wow...Yeah, I realized today that I was looking for some sort of synonym for the word, and right now I don't even remember why I needed to use it. I'm pretty sure I haven't been calling people fanboys...but...maybe I have? Anyhow, that's a word I wouldn't mind not seeing anymore. Especially the version in Français LOL

Captain Wrong
10-11-2004, 11:40 PM
I think fanboys have run their course.

kai123
10-11-2004, 11:45 PM
I love the word fanboy. What else would you use? To me fanboy means blind faith in a product or company with no use of facts to back up claims or using wrong information to backup their claims. I love discussing the differences between systems and games. I just hate it when someone won't even consider that they might be wrong about something.

Also why do so many people start topics about games that they dislike? I usually just voice my opinion on games once or twice then I don't pay attention to it anymore. I guess that is just me.

ArnoldRimmer83
10-12-2004, 12:41 AM
There's nothing wrong with someone being a die hard fan of something. The only real time it irritates me, is when people take their love too far, and start flaming people who don't like something they like, or like something that they cannot stand themselves. (EX: See general discussions about Halo.)

zmweasel
10-12-2004, 12:49 AM
Personally, I don't remember ever using that word. I remember some guy trying to be clever by altering the spelling to "fanboi", but that only makes it appear gay and French* ("fanbwah").

Google the "alternative" definition of boi to understand why "fanboi" is even more insulting than "fanboy."

And, no, the term hasn't run its course. It's part of the gaming lexicon, for better or worse. As long as there are adolescent and twenty-something males who attach their egos to current or former hardware manufacturers, proudly displaying their blind allegiance with fanatical usernames and .sigs, there will be a term for them.

-- Z.

Brian_Provinciano
10-12-2004, 02:10 AM
Nothing's run it's course more than "old school", haha. That was old ages ago. The only good thing old school is the movie from last year! Man, was that a great movie!

Daniel Thomas
10-12-2004, 02:50 AM
Well, if ya don't like the term, "fanboy," there's plenty of others to choose from. Words like, "dweeb," "nerd," "geek," "propeller head," "circus freak," "middle-aged virgin," "asshat."

Think of it as a game. Come up with your own words, and use them on hapless strangers who dress up as videogame characters, for some baffling reason. Can't we just cure 'em with alcohol and sex? Isn't that what college is supposed to be about?

Well, that and getting into shouting matches with College Republicans.

lendelin
10-12-2004, 04:29 AM
Why should the term "fanboi" be obsolete? As long as the attitude exists, we'll have the term; and the attitude is as old as humankind; I don't expect it to disappear in a couple of years because I don't expect paradise to break out on earth suddenly.

Fanboism exists in politics and sports as well. Blind loyalties, thinking in 'defense' and 'accusation' categories alone, perfected double standards, and the starting point that one side is good and the other bad independently of actions and reasoning of both sides.

A fanboi is blind in one eye, sometimes completely blind. It is the extreme opposite of the strive for objectivity. It is radical, fanatical enthusiasm; enthusiasm without prudence and without a a cold and distant view which is the building stone of resonableness and temperance. What we need is well-tempered passion, not only for videogames.

-hellvin-
10-12-2004, 04:31 AM
Damn fanboys! Damn them for liking a game company more than any other.

SoulBlazer
10-12-2004, 04:42 AM
I dislike the term only because there's nothing really that exists in the middle, nothing to describe someone who is loyal but not stupid.

For example, I'm a die hard Pats and Red Sox fan. I support the teams through thick and thin, watch as many games as I can, root and cheer for them, and discuss them with friends. But I realize that they will have off years and that maybe sometimes they do things that affect the rest of the league, and may not even be good for the sport.

For another example, I love Nintendo and always buy their products. But I also have all three of the modern consoles hooked up in my living room, with games for each system, and they all get playing time. When a new game comes out I decide which console version is best and buy it. I worry about the conquenses of what Sony and Microsoft is doing to the gaming industry, but I still buy their stuff.

So am I a fanboy of my sporting teams? No, I would say that I'm a football and baseball loving fan whose favorite teams are the Pats and Red Sox. On the same token, I would say thaty I'm a video game lover whose favorite gaming company is Nintendo.

We need another term to describe myself and people like me. Something not as strong and negatvly charged like 'fanboy'.

Avenger
10-12-2004, 05:10 AM
While "fanboyism" as a concept is still quite valid, I think people often overuse and mis-use the term. A lot of the time, "fanboy" is thrown out by people as a divisive weapon of sorts--kind of how "liberal" and "conservative" terms get thrown around in the political arena. The person weilding "fanboy" as a weapon typically wants to make themselves appear more "hardcore," superior and aloof to those being accused of fanboyism. Pretty lame.

i couldnt have put it better myself...yes there are ppl who are over-obsessed with certain games...*cough* Halo *end cough*...but most ppl throw the term around way too much as a way to get out of an arguement..once they are backed into a corner they play the fanboy card

SMB
10-12-2004, 07:54 AM
I was called a fanboy yesterday, all because this guy says psx is better than nintendo LOL

Zubiac666
10-12-2004, 10:14 AM
stupid "You are a fanboy" posts
I see them so often(mainly cause my banner) but guess what:

I'm really sick of apologizing for being a Nintendo-fan.
I like Nintendo best.I tried PS2 but just the controller alone made me not to want one.Well,I like some games for PS2 but it's simply not enough to get one.Hell,I even like some x-box games but I have to say that the name "Microsoft" alone disgusts me that much that I will never put my hands on any MS-consoles+games.
Am I a Nintendo-fan? YES I AM and I'm proud of it.Deal with it or ignore me.

This fanboyism-blabber has gone too far.It's like I would insult my father for liking BMW more than Mercedes(No,he never drove the newer modells).
Or I would beat up(verbaly) my friend for loving only the one restaurant(although he never tried another one in his area).

I remember the old days(SNES VS Genesis/Mega Drive) where(at least here in austria) you were allowed (and proud of) being a fan(boy) of Sega/nintendo.All my friends had just one console(hell,there was NO WAY you would have a genesis AND a SNES) and we actually really defended our console of choice.....ahh good ol days

SpasticFuctard
10-12-2004, 10:25 AM
Fuck you, Fanboy!

SF - I like to have sex in an uncomfortable place. (What, the back of a volkswagen?)

Nature Boy
10-12-2004, 10:35 AM
I'm not sure I like the comparison to sports.

There are *rules* when it comes to cheering for a sports franchise. If you live near one and you cheer for somebody else (ahem, Yankees, ahem) you are a bandwagon jumper of the most *heinous* sort (unless of course you lived there all your life - and even then you should be a Mets fan :) ).

Publishers don't have that same association with cities - they're just entities and we're just consumers. Sure you're allowed to like the product of one company over another (that's what competition is all about), but hating Microsoft is *not* the same thing as hating the Yankees.

I certainly wouldn't ridicule you if you decided you now liked Sega's games better than Nintendo's, whereas if you told me you decided the team you've been boosting for 20 years doesn't appeal to you and you feel like cheering for someone else, well, you won't hear the end of it *ever*

(We still bug a buddy of mine who switched from being a Bills fan to a Packers fan in University - and that was over 10 years ago).

maxlords
10-12-2004, 10:58 AM
Just drag all the "fanboys" out into the street and shoot them. Problem solved, and you've eliminated half the population of the planet :) We just need to braoden the term a bit...anyone that enjoys ANYTHING too much is a fanboy! Then let the hilarity ensue!

Aussie2B
10-12-2004, 11:15 AM
You know what word really irritates me? "The". People use it WAY TOO MUCH. People need to let go of the fad and come up with a new word.

...

That's how I feel about the slang term "fanboy". It's just a frickin' word, for goodness sakes. o_O I don't give a crap about it either way, but it is quite appropriate at times.

I think the real problem is with people who get WAY too wrapped up in it. I see people who are deathly afraid of acting like they like anything out of fear that they'll be a "fanboy", and they're deathly afraid of ever saying anything negative about a game out of fear that they'll be an "anti-fanboy". Am I the only one that finds these people MORE irritating than legitimate fanboys?

I'm sure many people would call me a fanboy just because I love tri-Ace so much, as if there's something wrong with that. Are people becoming so narrow-minded that they can't even tell the difference between when someone is truly passionate about something or just being an idiot? I mean, just because I love tri-Ace, it doesn't mean that I can't accept that they sometimes make mistakes. It doesn't mean that I can't accept it when other people don't like them and their games. And it doesn't mean that I think other companies and games are bad just because they're NOT tri-Ace.

I wish people could be more proud of their opinions. Proudly express your love of games and companies, proudly express your dislike of games and companies, just be true to yourself. The biggest difference between myself and a fanboy is that a fanboy lies to himself. He tells himself that the company or series or whatever is flawless and will always be so, and he tells himself that it's impossible and intolerable for anyone to disagree with that mentality.

thehistorian
10-12-2004, 11:55 AM
It's just a frickin' word, for goodness sakes.

Just a word....?

"The pen is mightier than the sword", etc., etc...

Words are very powerful. Far more so than many realize. How many words have we dropped from our lexicon because of their meanings? The "N" word for example...

Clearly from the responses "fanboy' is defined as blind fanaticism for something. "Blind" is the key word. Much like children who won't try new food beause they know they are not going to like it, these people choose to "not" see things in any other way than the way they want to. I do think it is used far more often than needed. As they say "the wearker the argument the louder the voice" and so it is often used when someone runs out of logical reasons to defend thier point. It may at some point be replaced with something more timely, but for now it will be with us...

maxlords
10-12-2004, 03:03 PM
It's just a frickin' word, for goodness sakes.

Just a word....?

"The pen is mightier than the sword", etc., etc...

Words are very powerful. Far more so than many realize. How many words have we dropped from our lexicon because of their meanings? The "N" word for example...


Nintendo?

Nachos?

Definitely both dirty villainous words, especially those Nachos that have the fake plastic-flavored cheese... *shiver*

le geek
10-12-2004, 03:15 PM
It's as annoying as the creature it represents, i.e. the comic book guy... So it's pratically an Onomatopoeia!

And just for the record, I'm not casting any stones in case anyone remembers my fanboy posts after the PSP was revealed
:embarrassed:

There's a little fanboy in all of us...









Waiting...







:evil:


Ben

Push Upstairs
10-12-2004, 03:26 PM
Clearly from the responses "fanboy' is defined as blind fanaticism for something. "Blind" is the key word. Much like children who won't try new food beause they know they are not going to like it, these people choose to "not" see things in any other way than the way they want to. I do think it is used far more often than needed. As they say "the wearker the argument the louder the voice" and so it is often used when someone runs out of logical reasons to defend thier point. It may at some point be replaced with something more timely, but for now it will be with us...


Thats an eloquent summary and expresses my thoughts on the matter.


I do think that the word is over-used and that it is used more on people who are just passionate as opposed to those people who are truely blinded by thier fanaticism.

I do believe there is a place in this online world for the term "fanboy" as i am sure most of us have run into a person (or group) that really do fit the definition. I know i have met some people...but thats another story for another day.

As for the person who said there wasnt a "term" to describe someone who isn't a fanboy yet is passionate...i have a term i use to describe that:

Nerd - someone who is knowledgeable and passionate about something.

Years ago i felt this word lost its negative connotation and has since been "taken back" to be used for good instead of evil. :)

And yes, you can be a "sports nerd

Wavelflack
10-12-2004, 06:32 PM
"Sure you're allowed to like the product of one company over another (that's what competition is all about), but hating Microsoft is *not* the same thing as hating the Yankees."

Could you elaborate on this? Why is it not the same?

Alos, what is the relevance of the "home city"? Should Redmond residents be encouraged to support Microsoft? Or Nintendo? Or both? Perhaps that could be analagous to Mets vs. Yankees?

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
On other matters, the term "fanboy" is more often than not used in an ad hominem fashion, and the acceptance of it's use as such has created the proliferation and overuse of the term. It's not quite up there with "Smurf", in terms of universal and infinite connotation, but it's headed down that road.

More to come, I'm sure...

FantasiaWHT
10-12-2004, 06:49 PM
There is a perfectly apt use for the word fanboy, but I would agree it is generally overused as a "backed-into-a-corner" mechanism.

And what's wrong with cosplay? Aside from paying the obscenely high prices to get "official" cosplay costumes lol. But it's just a great way to feel like a kid again playing dress-up and pretend. It's like more frequent Halloween :)

Daniel Thomas
10-12-2004, 08:24 PM
Clearly from the responses "fanboy' is defined as blind fanaticism for something. "Blind" is the key word. Much like children who won't try new food beause they know they are not going to like it, these people choose to "not" see things in any other way than the way they want to. I do think it is used far more often than needed. As they say "the wearker the argument the louder the voice" and so it is often used when someone runs out of logical reasons to defend thier point. It may at some point be replaced with something more timely, but for now it will be with us...


Thats an eloquent summary and expresses my thoughts on the matter.


I do think that the word is over-used and that it is used more on people who are just passionate as opposed to those people who are truely blinded by thier fanaticism.

I do believe there is a place in this online world for the term "fanboy" as i am sure most of us have run into a person (or group) that really do fit the definition. I know i have met some people...but thats another story for another day.

As for the person who said there wasnt a "term" to describe someone who isn't a fanboy yet is passionate...i have a term i use to describe that:

Nerd - someone who is knowledgeable and passionate about something.

Years ago i felt this word lost its negative connotation and has since been "taken back" to be used for good instead of evil. :)

And yes, you can be a "sports nerd


No, a nerd is a scrawny, dopey lookin' kid who's unpopular, gets picked on by the jocks, and ignored by all the girls. Then they start computer companies and become billionaires. But girls still ignore 'em, but that's okay now that the Lord of the Rings DVDs are available.

You can't be a 'sports nerd," since jocks are the arch-enemies of nerds. It's against the rules, or somethin'. Didn't you see that documentary? What was it called....oh, yeah, "Revenge of the Nerds."

anagrama
10-12-2004, 08:35 PM
Google the "alternative" definition of boi to understand why "fanboi" is even more insulting than "fanboy."


So what exactly does the Thailand Board of Investment have to do with it? ;)

Ed Oscuro
10-12-2004, 09:27 PM
Or the Bank of India, with its hillariously composed English?

"Today shall be our day of action, tomorrow may be too late. We shall work as though there is no tomorrow, after all time and tide waits for no one"

Speaking of the Yankees. The team's owners can go straight to hell. We have (er, had) a single-A team out here called the Battle Creek Battle Cats, then when we became affiliated with the Yankees they changed the name for us to the Yankees. That was smart.

I'd almost rather have the Kalamazoo Kazoos in my town :P~

slip81
10-12-2004, 10:28 PM
I once had a button that said "Bite me Fanboy"

I don't mind the word. I never saw it as demeaning or anything. To me a fanboy is just someone who is really into what they collect.

Push Upstairs
10-13-2004, 12:37 AM
No, a nerd is a scrawny, dopey lookin' kid who's unpopular, gets picked on by the jocks, and ignored by all the girls. Then they start computer companies and become billionaires. But girls still ignore 'em, but that's okay now that the Lord of the Rings DVDs are available.

No, that's a dork.


You can't be a 'sports nerd," since jocks are the arch-enemies of nerds. It's against the rules, or somethin'. Didn't you see that documentary? What was it called....oh, yeah, "Revenge of the Nerds."

What exactly is the difference between someone who spends endless hours researching his favorite sports team, compiling stats, and collecting background info on the teams best players....or someone who researches his favorite movie/TV series/game company, compiles stats, and collects background info on the major actors/people who worked there?

Not a damn thing.

Iron Draggon
10-13-2004, 01:35 AM
Nothing's run it's course more than "old school", haha. That was old ages ago. The only good thing old school is the movie from last year! Man, was that a great movie!

Oh for real! I wanna know what they're gonna call all the "old school" stuff when all the "new school" stuff becomes "old school" stuff. If they just start calling it all "real old school" or "really old school" etc, that's gonna be lame as hell. Fuggin' fanboys and their stupid ass fanboy lingo are so fuggin' retarded!

LOL

Push Upstairs
10-13-2004, 02:14 PM
They would be like "Man, thats so old school its ancient!"

Sotenga
10-13-2004, 04:27 PM
"Fanboy?" Walt here's middle name is Fanboy, and he likes all video games, be it Sega, Nintendo, or f**kin' Sony.

Yeah, tell 'em, Steve-Dave! LOL

Heh, I couldn't resist. In all seriousness, I think it such an ugly word, but I can't deny my grim past... for, you see, good people, I was once a... (organ chimes) NINTENDO FANBOY. (echoes, lightning strikes, horse whinnies, etc.) Ironically, the first Sega system I had was the Dreamcast, and despite not being a fan of Sega at the time, it looked extremely impressive. So when I got one, that's when I abandoned my totalinarist worship for Nintendo and decided that all game consoles rule equally. This was a long time ago, it was... five or so years. Anyway, the point is that, yes, the term "fanboy" has wore off its effect. It's not really a bad word, I think... just a rather irritating label.

SegaAges
10-13-2004, 04:31 PM
Tell you what. Come up with a better one-word description of http://www.finalfantasycosplay.it/ , and we'll use that going forward.

1 word. that would be tough. i could do it in a phrase: too much time. if you have enough time to do all that, please, by all means, go out and do something contructive. if they enjoy life through all that, then i guess good for them.

NintendoMan
10-13-2004, 04:36 PM
I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE WORD "FANBOY"!!!!!!
I can't fucking stand it really. Who the hell came up with that stupid word?? I want to kill them, well not really.

There needs to be another word though to replace "fanboy".

I know a lot of people's def. of fanboy on here is different. One of FLACK'S definition's earlier in the post is exactly what fanboy means.
And there is nothing wrong with having loyalty to another company. What is wrong is HATING something before even playing it because it's made by a certain company.

Fuyukaze
10-13-2004, 05:23 PM
To me the term "fanboy" is used in to broad of a sense. I've been called one because I buy X-Box games. I've been called it by store clercks when I bought DC games and NES games. It implies to me the same sense that getting called an Otaku in Japan would. That something isnt right about me and that I am not normal. There are fanboys out there, I have no doubt. I see them at the anime conventions dressed in horible looking cos-play with an armload of Dojin so adult and tasteless to make Penthouse or Hustler look like a fine read. I see them on message boards screaming the glories of games no one in their right mind could enjoy. The problem is its used and abused for anything these days. Like a game system not many own? Your considered a fanboy. Like a game no one else enjoys? Your one as well. Like Sega or Nintendo? That too. Its used and abused because such terms as nerd, geek, and dweeb has run its course. I do see people adopting the term as a good thing though. Much like all the other terms listed, people are taking them and accepting them as a good thing. I refuse to. I play games, I may even colect them but I dont see how that makes me anything more or less then who I am. Not a fanboy, or a geek, a nerd, dweeb, or even an otaku. Just me. When I buy games and am called a fanboy, I'm simply reminded what the term "looser" means.

Push Upstairs
10-14-2004, 12:37 AM
I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE WORD "FANBOY"!!!!!!
I can't fucking stand it really. Who the hell came up with that stupid word?? I want to kill them, well not really.

You know whats just as bad as being called a "fanboy"? being called a _____ Hater.

This has nothing to do with you or Nintendo....i quoted you simply because of your comment.

Back at this horrid VG forum i used to frequent, if you mentioned Nintendo in anything but highest reguards you were simply called "Nintendo Hater"

"I don't like the fact that the SP doesn't include a headphone jack. I think its rather silly to have to buy an adaptor to to be able to use headphones when the GBA had a jack built in"

"NINTENDO HATER!"


Of course this place had its weekly "PS2 SUX and will break all the time" rant by the same guy and also some "fine" people who believed that the GBA was specifically made by Nintendo for THEM to play 2D games.

SoulBlazer
10-14-2004, 04:00 AM
Believing a system is made just for you? Sign number 6 you need to get out more. LOL :D

Nature Boy
10-14-2004, 12:29 PM
Could you elaborate on this? Why is it not the same?

If you're not a sports fan then perhaps it could be the same. But as a pretty big baseball fan myself (and sports fan in general) the two aren't even *close* to being the same.

MicroSoft doesn't come to the SkyDome to play the Blue Jays. They're just a business selling a product, which I can choose to buy or not to buy. With MicroSoft, I can choose to support them by buying their products or I can not support them (obviously) by choosing their competitor. There's nothing I can do about the Yankees except do my best heckling when they're in town.

Push Upstairs
10-14-2004, 12:39 PM
Believing a system is made just for you? Sign number 6 you need to get out more. LOL :D

I couldn't make this stuff up...that forum was horrible.

Get ready for some stories!

The single MOD that place had was terrible. The MOD was another "overly PRO-Nintendo" and most of the time if anyone would say anything negative (not bashing) about Nintendo..BAM! thread closed. There was one time a bunch of us were just discussing Nintendo and the MOD comes in and starts some shit with someone posting, then closes the thread because he came off looking like a total ass.

Then there is the single greatest example of stupidity i have ever laid witness to. Mr. PS2 Sux went on a huge ranting spree about how the ps2 sucks, its gonna break, blah blah blah...the rant + his buddies joining his "crusade" plus the defenders of the PS2 resulted in a 20+ page thread.

Mr. PS2 sux runs his mouth about how all Sony products are crap and they will all break eventually...even going so far as to say that all PS2's are defective and they will all break down (even though some people said thiers have never had problems). Someone with a brain tells him that *EVERY* PS2 being defective isnt possible and that there is no proof to that claim. Well, Mr. PS2 Sux comes back with his "killer" proof that there are 100,000 websites on the internet that mention the Disc Read Error problem in the PS2 (he got these results from Google). Someone else mentioned that even if *ALL* 100,000 sites did have people bitching about DRE problems thats still not enough to back up his claim that every PS2 is defective....considering that by that point there was like 30 Million consoles sold worldwide. To make this long story short, the rest of this "epic struggle" showed the "PS2 sux squad" go from spouting off empty claims to being on the defensive and firing off grade school comebacks in light of hard evidence thier opinons couldn't beat.

Makes me extremly happy i found DP to discuss games instead of staying at that other crappy forum.

rbudrick
10-14-2004, 05:31 PM
but that only makes it appear gay and French

Is that redundant? :D

I think the term fanboy is EXTREMELY annoying. However, it is for that very reason it is so fitting, therefore it must stay. If you can come up with a term that is just as obnoxious to represent these people, all will be well, but it will really just be substitution.

Hell, you could call them hibtegfgwfigs and you will still grow to hate the term...

-Rob

Wavelflack
10-16-2004, 02:41 AM
"Quote:
but that only makes it appear gay and French


Is that redundant?"



Indeed. Look carefully. There's an asterisk after "french", and a corresponding footnote at the bottom. No edits.

demented-yoshi
10-16-2004, 01:55 PM
I have no problem with people saying fanboy so long as it isn't said to often the only word I can't stand is noob newb newbie noobie ect.

When some nerd first used that word I couldn't tell what the hell he was talking about I thought he was bringing bees into the conversation.

Can people just say new player? whats with the whole bee concept?

ianoid
10-17-2004, 03:26 AM
I love the word fanboy. What else would you use? To me fanboy means blind faith in a product or company with no use of facts to back up claims or using wrong information to backup their claims. I love discussing the differences between systems and games. I just hate it when someone won't even consider that they might be wrong about something.

I don't know why it wouldn't be a useful term. This board is full of Nintendo fanboys and frankly I find them to be very dull. Hype Nintendo DS! Bash PSP! I like Nintendo as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean that they can do no evil. Let's face it, anyone with stockholders can do plenty of evil.

Fanboys annoy me because they are subjective and two dimensional. Whatever << object of fanboy affection >> does must be good. To me, it's as irritating as voting on the party line.

To be a fanboy implies that the fanboy isn't thinking critically, and that is annoying.

I think fanboy is a useful term.

Push Upstairs
10-17-2004, 03:22 PM
I don't know why it wouldn't be a useful term. This board is full of Nintendo fanboys and frankly I find them to be very dull.

I've not noticed it that much considering i came from a place where Nintendo bias was like 98%.


Hype Nintendo DS! Bash PSP! I like Nintendo as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean that they can do no evil.

I've taken a lukewarm attitude towards both the PSP & DS :) I don't care to own either one.

I like Nintendo, they have made some great games and i will always love my NES and Gameboy (orginal)...but Nintendo has done wrong in thier past and (IMO) has done even more wrong in the present.

I mean, $20 for SMB? Please. The promise of "master levels" in the re-release of SMB3, only to find out i have to buy two other things just to be able to play them? Whatever.



To be a fanboy implies that the fanboy isn't thinking critically, and that is annoying.

I think fanboy is a useful term.

It is, when it's not overused.

Predatorxs
10-17-2004, 04:16 PM
I think "Fanboy" has run it's course.. and to me it still sounds like it came from the playground!.. i never liked it.

Surely there is a better term, that people can use? Right?? ;)

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