View Full Version : The copy of original cart.games can be a problem in future?
indianatigre
10-13-2004, 12:41 PM
Is possibile, for rarest game carts (atari/coleco/ecc.) with the actual technological instruments, to copy the original carts with
same aspects (carts/label/software..and then box/manual) ???
Someone buy there carts for $$$ money.
There is examples of games (atari/coleco/vectrex/ecc.) subject to crack/copy?
The copy of original games in cartridge form can be a propblem in future?
Thanks.
(i have try to put these questions on a previous topic..but no response. Stupid questions?)
Dr. Morbis
10-13-2004, 01:52 PM
Anything that can be made once, can be made again. Counterfeiting will never go away. You gotta be vigilant!
Flack
10-13-2004, 01:55 PM
People from Brazil and Hong Kong have been doing it for years!
Ed Oscuro
10-13-2004, 02:14 PM
This is one of the major issues I face every time I go looking for CD-ROM based games, eBay or otherwise. It's pretty much as if you have to go looking for a well used copy for fear of having a bootleg pawned off on you.
Yeah, the technological capability is there to make a reasonably accurate copy. As detection methods increase - but they won't, not for a LONG time. Nobody can afford tiny instruments to peek inside a game's PCB, and that's not actually possible with all cartridges, either.
So basically, counterfeits scare the hell out of me.
I just dodged a Sonmay copy of Akumajo Dracula Mokushiroku on teh eBay the other day, and a "conversion" of Ninja Master's MVS to AES this last week, so the question is terribly relevant to me personally. Mega Drive carts? Not yet. Thankfully.
We'll all need to log all our carts and track whom they're traded to out of fear they'll be pegged as counterfeits someday in the far future >_<
That sounds absurd, but thwarting criminals leads to that sometimes (See Also: Spam, junk mail)
Raedon
10-13-2004, 03:50 PM
If you ever see NWC carts on Ebay every other week you will have your answer.
goatdan
10-13-2004, 04:30 PM
It has already started with certain video games -- Beagle Brothers, anyone?
The nice thing about video games is that it is difficult enough to make a copy for a cheap price for most of them. The Beagle Brothers carts don't qualify because, quite frankly, they were "produced" with no care at all anyways.
To reproduce a NES cart though, it would take a lot of money to produce the cart casing, a lot to reproduce the PCBs the exact same way and then more money to package it. I don't think that anyone could theoretically produce less than 1000 carts for less than $50.00 apiece. If you are only talking about producing an "easier" one like Stadium Events, maybe you could get it down to $40.00 apiece -- but you're talking about fronting a TON of money to do it, and if you're caught your games are worthless.
So far, luckily, the video game community hasn't had to worry about that. As long as carts don't climb into the cost range of thousands apiece, we will continue to avoid it.
CDs are a different subject matter.... but since they are relatively easy to pirate, if the price it too high, (unfortunately) people will pirate them so it wouldn't make sense for someone to try to reproduce *most* CD games. Hopefully, it stays like that for the foreseeable future.
NintendoMan
10-13-2004, 04:45 PM
If you ever see NWC carts on Ebay every other week you will have your answer.
LOL
Well, I haven't worried about piracy yet, nor had a problem with it yet.
Promophile
10-13-2004, 06:55 PM
Personally if the pirated copy is SO good that I can't tell the difference form a regular one I'm ok since I don't know that its a pirated copy and it is the same quality... I guess.