I found a old Sega cartridge from 1983

[Anthony1]

I wonder what the oldest cartridge that Sega ever had is.

I found a Sega cart at a thrift store that is from 1983. The game is Star Trek: Strategic Operations Simulator. It's for the Atari 400/800/1200XL.


The Star Trek property is licensed from Paramount Pictures, but the game is published by Sega. It even has a large Sega logo on the back of it.

Interesting.

[Barbarianoutkast85]

Didnt sega make Carnival for Atari 2600? I think its called that...But im not 100% sure so dont tar and feather me if im wrong.

[Barbarianoutkast85]

I checked the DP guide and nevermind Carnival is made by Coleco but Congo Bongo is made by Sega for the atari 2600

[Melf]

Sega and Gremlin did the Vector graphics Star Trek arcade game so it's most likely a port.


http://www.system16.com/sega/cabinets/startrek.jpg

http://www.system16.com/sega/screens/startrek_a.gif

[Barbarianoutkast85]

I looked up some Atari 2600 games made by Sega and the oldest I found was 83 so I donno..

[Ed Oscuro]

The SG-1000 was test marketed in Japan in 1981. Thus, games were created for it that year.

The Atari machines weren't the oldest ones Sega put games on, either. Coleco had their Congo Bongo port, and the PC did, too (a 4-color one with the intermissions and screen transitions intact). Though the PC wasn't a cartridge machine, you get the idea that other machines got those games.

Interestingly enough; Yu Suzuki's first game (Champion Boxing) was released in 1984!

[Raccoon Lad]

The SG-1000 was test marketed in Japan in 1981. Thus, games were created for it that year.


Now, where on earth did you get that info?
My sources say Borderline (1983) was the first sg-1000 game.

[Ed Oscuro]

The SG-1000 was test marketed in Japan in 1981. Thus, games were created for it that year.


Now, where on earth did you get that info?
My sources say Borderline (1983) was the first sg-1000 game.
Here (http://www.consoledatabase.com/consoleinfo/segasg-1000/), here (http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/sg100.htm), and the info on consoledatabase.com is copied verbatim by most all the wikipedia-type sites. Arcade-History Database (http://www.arcade-history.com/history_database.php?page=detail&id=318) has Borderline at 1981 for some reason or other. I don't count Darkwatcher's Crappy Console History for much, but when I see this much evidence I'd say the SG-1000 came out in 1981, and possibly Borderline as well (though that could be a simple matter of folks having confused the arcade game's release with that of the SG-1000 port...but MAME only has the Borderline bootleg at the moment, which further complicates things).

At the very least, My sources (http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Domino/7088/SEGAarcade/80s_82.html) say SG-1000 games were first released to the general public in 1982. I wouldn't know for sure whether the games for the test marketing were in cartridge form, but that would seem a reasonable enough assumption given that Sega hadn't concieved the SG-1000 as an all-in-one console at any point that I'm aware of.

[goatdan]

I don't know if Sega started making carts before 1983, but they were making video games in 1974. I *think* it all started with Table Hockey, although I could be mistaken:

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=T&game_id=12827

[GarrettCRW]

Sega was making Trek games at that point because they were still owned by Gulf + Western, the conglomerate afraid of "&".

[CRV]

Arcade-History Database (http://www.arcade-history.com/history_database.php?page=detail&id=318) has Borderline at 1981 for some reason or other.

I think there may have been an arcade version.

As for the SG-1000 version, the copyright in the game itself says 1983. Going through most of my SG-1000 roms, I don't see any games from earlier than that.

[Ed Oscuro]

Arcade-History Database (http://www.arcade-history.com/history_database.php?page=detail&id=318) has Borderline at 1981 for some reason or other.

I think there may have been an arcade version.
There was. You can find the bootleg in MAME.


As for the SG-1000 version, the copyright in the game itself says 1983. Going through most of my SG-1000 roms, I don't see any games from earlier than that.
Looking back through that Japanese page I posted, I see that where they have SG-1000/II that the section translates to (with OCN's translator) "Transplant History." So saying that means those are the dates ports came out could easily be wrong. All the same, I'd be surprised if everybody who's said there was a test marketing of the SG-1000 was completely wrong.