View Full Version : are those psm's with snake eater demo rare?
unbroken
10-16-2004, 10:32 PM
yea i remember people selling these on ebay, i found a few at some store, i was wondering if i should pick them up?
Promophile
10-16-2004, 11:14 PM
I would. It's a great demo CD. Just DON'T GET IT AT BLOCKBUSTER!!!! @_@ .
Qixmaster
10-16-2004, 11:16 PM
not rare at all. people on ebay are just stupid. I put magazines out for a job (which sucks btw) and i had tons of these bastard magazines at my stores.
I actually tried this out too.
I pulled the disc out of the magazine and popped it on ebay for 19.99 BIN (no magazine, just the disc). I sold it in three days :)
If people want free money, this is the way to do it. Find a store, rip out the demo disc and sell it on ebay... it isn't stealing. The disc does say NOT FOR RESALE...
-Josh
EDIT: failed to mention that this was an old magazine that was coming off the newstands. Sorry that i caused all of this passionate agression towards swiping these things. Guess you do what you want.
Barbarianoutkast85
10-16-2004, 11:19 PM
Is it a playable demo? Or video demo or what AHHH I WANNA PLAY IT!
Overbite
10-16-2004, 11:23 PM
why dont they give demos to subscribers? its not fair :(
Mr.FoodMonster
10-17-2004, 12:33 AM
Its not illegal to take the demo cd's from magazines without buying the magazine? I had always thought it was, and I dont see any other reason why it would be legal to do so.
izret101
10-17-2004, 11:26 AM
I have pulled stuff out of tons of magazines. To me it is not stealing.
I never thought about selling any of it... thats a good idea though.
As for the subscribers not getting anything i know OXM sends you demos if you are subscribed i wonder why PSM doesn't.
Actually i just checked i have this one if it is what everyone is talking about. From September 2003 Issue 75
12 minute Metal Gear Solid 3 trailer and 40 other games on here. It doesnt say what is playable and what is not but i assume none of it is playable
It also says across the bottom in small font
NOT TO BE SOLD WITHOUT MAGAZINE
maxlords
10-17-2004, 01:49 PM
Ask the store you're stealing those discs and inserts from at the counter if it's stealing. I suspect their opinions will differ... :roll:
davidleeroth
10-17-2004, 02:34 PM
If people want free money, this is the way to do it. Find a store, rip out the demo disc and sell it on ebay... it isn't stealing. The disc does say NOT FOR RESALE...
I have pulled stuff out of tons of magazines. To me it is not stealing.
I don't know what you guys are on but I wanna have a puff of it too.
Promophile
10-17-2004, 02:35 PM
I have pulled stuff out of tons of magazines. To me it is not stealing.
I never thought about selling any of it... thats a good idea though.
As for the subscribers not getting anything i know OXM sends you demos if you are subscribed i wonder why PSM doesn't.
Actually i just checked i have this one if it is what everyone is talking about. From September 2003 Issue 75
12 minute Metal Gear Solid 3 trailer and 40 other games on here. It doesnt say what is playable and what is not but i assume none of it is playable
It also says across the bottom in small font
NOT TO BE SOLD WITHOUT MAGAZINE
Please... Don't do this. I've gotten stuck with magazines where the bonus stuff has been ripped out. It sucks, especially if the store manager is an ass and won't take it back. When you rip stuff out of magazines your hurting the people that will buy the magazine, not the store.
GrayFox
10-17-2004, 02:39 PM
I have pulled stuff out of tons of magazines. To me it is not stealing.
I never thought about selling any of it... thats a good idea though.
As for the subscribers not getting anything i know OXM sends you demos if you are subscribed i wonder why PSM doesn't.
Actually i just checked i have this one if it is what everyone is talking about. From September 2003 Issue 75
12 minute Metal Gear Solid 3 trailer and 40 other games on here. It doesnt say what is playable and what is not but i assume none of it is playable
It also says across the bottom in small font
NOT TO BE SOLD WITHOUT MAGAZINE
Wait, how is this not stealing? You're taking property that is not yours, and not paying for it.
izret101
10-17-2004, 03:09 PM
When i go to a store and see 2 and 3 month old magazines sitting there i will take them out of the plastic flip thru them and grab something if it catches my eye. By that time anyone who wanted the mag bought it.
I don't go into a store saying a wonder how much stuff i can get from this months new issues.
Cauterize
10-17-2004, 03:22 PM
u dirty dirty theives...
is money free?
do demo disks grow on trees?
didnt think so...
come on guys, were game collectors not criminals! im disappointed in you!
GrayFox
10-17-2004, 03:25 PM
u dirty dirty theives...
is money free?
do demo disks grow on trees?
didnt think so...
come on guys, were game collectors not criminals! im disappointed in you!
I have to agree with Caut. I mean, maybe I'm just a weiner, but I was never one to steal from a store. I really can't justifiy it in my mind no matter what. I mean, if I'm not paying for it, and it's not labeled as 'free', and I'm not given it as free, then, I'm pretty sure it's not the correct thing to do.
Promophile
10-17-2004, 05:20 PM
u dirty dirty theives...
is money free?
do demo disks grow on trees?
didnt think so...
come on guys, were game collectors not criminals! im disappointed in you!
I have to agree with Caut. I mean, maybe I'm just a weiner, but I was never one to steal from a store. I really can't justifiy it in my mind no matter what. I mean, if I'm not paying for it, and it's not labeled as 'free', and I'm not given it as free, then, I'm pretty sure it's not the correct thing to do.
Not to mention if you get caught you will be embarassed and feel like a dumbass for shoplifting a stupid demo disk. Not worth it in my opinion, especially for a 5-9 dollar magazine.
spoon
10-17-2004, 06:05 PM
I just wanted to ask if any of you know the reason why mags with demo discs are around 9.00, as compared to the mags without demos that run anywhere from 2.50-5.00?
slip81
10-17-2004, 06:45 PM
I just wanted to ask if any of you know the reason why mags with demo discs are around 9.00, as compared to the mags without demos that run anywhere from 2.50-5.00?
Because no one in the CD industry besides the DVD people understand that CD's are dirt cheap to produce. I can't see why mags with CDs cost on average $3 more than the ones without. CDs cost like $.34, and I doubt that the mags have to pay for the content that's on them, it's probably just promo stuff that the game companies send them for free, just like how newspapers and stuff get digital movie press packs with cd's that contain screen shots and trailers and movie clips.
Flack
10-17-2004, 06:58 PM
Welcome to the MP3 Generation's way of thinking.
Qixmaster
10-17-2004, 07:13 PM
honestly guys... my job is stocking the magazines at these stores. the stores could give less of a shit if you took the demo disc's out, regardless of what it says on the magazines.
Also, if you buy a magazine that is torn out of the plastic wrap chances are the demo disc will be gone. (i.e. EGM or Gamepro who just seem to toss the disc's in the wrapper and not the actual magazine). Game magazines are dumb, do what you want, think what you want, but i am going to take these demos out and I am not going to think twice or feel bad about it.
soo... whatever.
-Josh
Qixmaster
10-17-2004, 07:17 PM
u dirty dirty theives...
is money free?
do demo disks grow on trees?
didnt think so...
come on guys, were game collectors not criminals! im disappointed in you!
I have to agree with Caut. I mean, maybe I'm just a weiner, but I was never one to steal from a store. I really can't justifiy it in my mind no matter what. I mean, if I'm not paying for it, and it's not labeled as 'free', and I'm not given it as free, then, I'm pretty sure it's not the correct thing to do.
Not to mention if you get caught you will be embarassed and feel like a dumbass for shoplifting a stupid demo disk. Not worth it in my opinion, especially for a 5-9 dollar magazine.
okay... I had the disc in my hand... went to and got a soda... went to the clerk and put the disc and the soda on the belt.... went through the line... and she asked what it was (the disc) i told her it came out of a magazine and was a game demo disc. She said, oh okay. I paid for my soda and left with both in hand.
izret101
10-17-2004, 07:24 PM
Welcome to the MP3 Generation's way of thinking.
You know as well as i do that is an unfair statement.
To keep from rambling i am just going to say if you think i am a thief feel free to think that.
If anyone here can say truthfully they have never done ANYTHING illeagal then please do so. Everyone does things that they know are wrong or could be considered wrong.
I knew full well that some people might think me taking stuff out of those magazines would be wrong i did it anyways.
u dirty dirty theives...
is money free?
do demo disks grow on trees?
didnt think so...
come on guys, were game collectors not criminals! im disappointed in you!
I have to agree with Caut. I mean, maybe I'm just a weiner, but I was never one to steal from a store. I really can't justifiy it in my mind no matter what. I mean, if I'm not paying for it, and it's not labeled as 'free', and I'm not given it as free, then, I'm pretty sure it's not the correct thing to do.
Not to mention if you get caught you will be embarassed and feel like a dumbass for shoplifting a stupid demo disk. Not worth it in my opinion, especially for a 5-9 dollar magazine.
okay... I had the disc in my hand... went to and got a soda... went to the clerk and put the disc and the soda on the belt.... went through the line... and she asked what it was (the disc) i told her it came out of a magazine and was a game demo disc. She said, oh okay. I paid for my soda and left with both in hand.
I have had similar experiances where clerks have watched me open the magazines and just said it had better be an old one.
Which is the only ones i would take stuff from/read in store.
izret101
10-17-2004, 07:25 PM
Welcome to the MP3 Generation's way of thinking.
You know as well as i do that is an unfair statement.
To keep from rambling i am just going to say if you think i am a thief feel free to think that.
If anyone here can say truthfully they have never done ANYTHING illeagal then please do so. Everyone does things that they know are wrong or could be considered wrong.
I knew full well that some people might think me taking stuff out of those magazines would be wrong i did it anyways.
u dirty dirty theives...
is money free?
do demo disks grow on trees?
didnt think so...
come on guys, were game collectors not criminals! im disappointed in you!
I have to agree with Caut. I mean, maybe I'm just a weiner, but I was never one to steal from a store. I really can't justifiy it in my mind no matter what. I mean, if I'm not paying for it, and it's not labeled as 'free', and I'm not given it as free, then, I'm pretty sure it's not the correct thing to do.
Not to mention if you get caught you will be embarassed and feel like a dumbass for shoplifting a stupid demo disk. Not worth it in my opinion, especially for a 5-9 dollar magazine.
okay... I had the disc in my hand... went to and got a soda... went to the clerk and put the disc and the soda on the belt.... went through the line... and she asked what it was (the disc) i told her it came out of a magazine and was a game demo disc. She said, oh okay. I paid for my soda and left with both in hand.
I have had similar experiances where clerks have watched me open the magazines and just said it had better be an old one. (EDIT Actually they said it had better not be a new one)
Which is the only ones i would take stuff from/read in store.
Griking
10-17-2004, 07:30 PM
If people want free money, this is the way to do it. Find a store, rip out the demo disc and sell it on ebay... it isn't stealing. The disc does say NOT FOR RESALE...-Josh
How do you figure this to not be stealing? you're taking something that doesn't belong to you. It says not for REsale. Meaning that its ok to sell one but not more than once. If anything, it's the ebay sales that are illegal (but who really monitors that?)
If anyone here can say truthfully they have never done ANYTHING illeagal then please do so. Everyone does things that they know are wrong or could be considered wrong.
I'm sure that most people have broken a law a few times in their lives though they ususally don't brag about it. the main problem that I see here is that you legitimately don't seem to think or care that what you're doing is wrong.
izret101
10-17-2004, 07:34 PM
If people want free money, this is the way to do it. Find a store, rip out the demo disc and sell it on ebay... it isn't stealing. The disc does say NOT FOR RESALE...-Josh
How do you figure this to not be stealing? you're taking something that doesn't belong to you. It says not for REsale. Meaning that its ok to sell one but not more than once. If anything, it's the ebay sales that are illegal (but who really monitors that?)
Better go get every used game store in the country(world actually). I garuntee at least one has a game that says not for resale on it.
Sonic among posibly hundreds of others come to mind.
Better find everyone who sold the game to those store too.
racecar
10-17-2004, 07:39 PM
I don't know much about this , but i do respect others morals,values,and beliefs ....so do what ever makes you happy...and keep on gaming !!!!
NintendoMan
10-17-2004, 07:41 PM
Yeah, I saw how much some of those damn auctions went for! Crazy!
Blackjax
10-17-2004, 08:05 PM
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
You know, i really hope some of you that rip out demo discs out of magazines get caught and find yourselves in a nice set of police bracelets. There is a reason these magazines are sealed in a bag in the first place. You pay for a magazine, poster, demo disc, and whatever they toss in the bag as incentives to pick it up.
If they were free, they'd be marked "FREE" and probably on a counter for everyone to take one, not in a bag and bound into the magazine. It can be a royal pain to try to exchange one of these if the disc is gone, and don't say "Just call the publisher," because if its THAT easy, why don't YOU thieves call the company and claim you bought one?
Ever try to return a DVD that had its disc stolen out of the case? It ain't easy, and it ammounts to just about the same thing.
Old, new, whatever. If it wasn't in the trash, it isn't yours to take.
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
zmweasel
10-17-2004, 08:13 PM
When i go to a store and see 2 and 3 month old magazines sitting there i will take them out of the plastic flip thru them and grab something if it catches my eye. By that time anyone who wanted the mag bought it.
I don't go into a store saying a wonder how much stuff i can get from this months new issues.
So it's okay to steal, as long as whatever you're stealing is a couple of months old. Gotcha.
-- Z.
izret101
10-17-2004, 08:18 PM
I just realized i did not take that demo it came in one of my "risk free" issues :o .
But either way 99% of the stuff i have taken was from shops i habit were they didn't care.
The other 1% i got from going to Big Y.
yea i remember people selling these on ebay, i found a few at some store, i was wondering if i should pick them up?
To get back to your original topic they are not worth nearly as much as they were selling for.
portnoyd
10-17-2004, 08:20 PM
So it's okay to steal, as long as whatever you're stealing is a couple of months old. Gotcha.
Especially if it 'has no possibility of being sold' too.
I know I would have been royally pissed if my MGS3 demo was missing... of course, it wasn't, but none of the demos worked bc of all the scratches and the stuck on glue. :\
The only time I feel you can steal is if it's in the garbage. One man's trash, and all that.
dave
Qixmaster
10-18-2004, 12:02 AM
Old, new, whatever. If it wasn't in the trash, it isn't yours to take.
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
here's the way i see it. I work for this god forsaken company. These magazines sit on the shelves for a month and nobody buys them. Kids just come in and rip the packages off so they can read them. By the time the next magazine comes out (YES this is an old Playstation magazine and has been since removed from the newstands in my areas) these olds ones get sent back to my company some 500 miles away.
What they do you ask?
They shred these magazines up. Send them to the chokey if you will. There is no recycling about it. I'm not going out of my way to rip open the packages just to take the disc out and sell it. I'm just simply taking the disc out of an ALREADY OPENED magazine, that is BEING SENT BACK to the distributor to be destroyed. Now F' me if i'm wrong... but is there anything wrong with taking something out of a magazine that is old and being sent to the shredding machine?
give me break people... nobody cares. And if you are dumb enough to buy a magazine that was SUPPOSED to have been sealed up, then you should get what you pay for. An opened magazine without "the poster and the goodies"
my advice. quite bitching and get a subscription. I hope i do get arrested, put in cuffs and sent to jail for taking a snake eater demo disc. :roll:
seriously this is ridiculous and i have nothing more to say.
-Josh
Promophile
10-18-2004, 12:22 AM
So it's okay to steal, as long as whatever you're stealing is a couple of months old. Gotcha.
Especially if it 'has no possibility of being sold' too.
I know I would have been royally pissed if my MGS3 demo was missing... of course, it wasn't, but none of the demos worked bc of all the scratches and the stuck on glue. :\
The only time I feel you can steal is if it's in the garbage. One man's trash, and all that.
dave
HOLD on here. SO I'm not the only one with a broken MGS3 demo disk? I wonder how many people got broken ones.
G4MZ0v3R
10-18-2004, 12:51 AM
I don't know much about this , but I do respect others morals,values,and beliefs ....so do what ever makes you happy.....
Ummm everyone doing whatever makes them happy is an anarchist's way of thinking of things. Stealing makes a lot of people happy and a lot of people miserable.
If you take old demo disks then you will have no moral thoughts about taking a new one either because people look for back issues of demo mags like myself. Stealing in a way is a slippery slope than just keeps building with more and more irrational explanations to make the persons behavior "ok". The problem with this is the same with emulation that I have. I want. I may be crazy, but if I can't afford something and am not willing to sacrifice for it then I really don't need it.
Rant END :evil:
Flame away.... "puts on fire suit"
G4MZ0v3R
10-18-2004, 12:54 AM
BTW the MP3 generation comment is dead on =)
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