Zelda: Orcarina of Time - The Various Differences

[MegaDrive20XX]

Pretty much: N64 Gold/Grey Carts Vs. Cube ports

Minor differences I have noticed:

A)The mirror shield has a totally different icon on the cover when playing on GameCube or the later release copies for N64

B) In the Gold cart verison, The mirror shield has a moon icon

C) Ganondorf coughs up red blood after the first battle with him (Gold cart only)

D) In Cube and later releases that blood is changed to green


Has anyone found any slight changes in some things?

Now the issue of blood in the game was to only appear in the Gold Cart verison, yet last night I have discovered that there are a few grey cartridges that have this as well.

Either it's probably a first run copy that didn't get the chance of being painted gold or a mistake by placing it into a grey cart

[Hovoc]

Pretty much: N64 Gold/Grey Carts Vs. Cube ports

Minor differences I have noticed:

A)The mirror shield has a totally different icon on the cover when playing on GameCube or the later release copies for N64

B) In the Gold cart verison, The mirror shield has a moon icon

C) Ganondorf coughs up red blood after the first battle with him (Gold cart only)

D) In Cube and later releases that blood is changed to green


Has anyone found any slight changes in some things?

Now the issue of blood in the game was to only appear in the Gold Cart verison, yet last night I have discovered that there are a few grey cartridges that have this as well.

Either it's probably a first run copy that didn't get the chance of being painted gold or a mistake by placing it into a grey cart


while we are at it, wanna discuss who shot first? han or greedo? :D

[downfall]

Yeah, didn't they remove the chanting from the Fire Temple music or something? It's been so long since I've played that game...

[Ed Oscuro]

Lol @ Nintendo

Glad I've got my original copy nearby :D

[Leo_A]

"B) In the Gold cart verison, The mirror shield has a moon icon

C) Ganondorf coughs up red blood after the first battle with him (Gold cart only) "

Nope, early release gray carts are identical to the gold carts. My gray cart has the red blood and everything.

[MegaDrive20XX]

"B) In the Gold cart verison, The mirror shield has a moon icon

C) Ganondorf coughs up red blood after the first battle with him (Gold cart only) "

Nope, early release gray carts are identical to the gold carts. My gray cart has the red blood and everything.

Odd, when i first got Zelda 64 back in December of 98, it was a grey cart, and Ganondorf had green blood...

[Leo_A]

I should of said many, instead of basically saying they all did. :)

[joshnickerson]

Yeah, didn't they remove the chanting from the Fire Temple music or something? It's been so long since I've played that game...

Yep, they did. In fact, I think they added totally different music to that level for the Gamecube version.

[AFGiant]

I have a first version gray cart, which has the chanting in the fire temple and red blood. These are not in the later gray cart versions. I heard that v1 gray carts are rarer than gold ones (but thats just what I heard)

[joshnickerson]

But is there a way to tell which version grey cart it is (other than playing all the way to Ganondorf or to the fire temple, that is)?

[SkiDragon]

I think there was something with the outlines of the heart containers or somethings, but I dont know any specifics.

[Chooky]

Yep, the mirror shield was changed, and so was the design in the pushable blocks. They both had a crescent moon and a star on them, which is a symbol of Islam. And the original Fire Temple music had that chanting (which also sounded Islamic...), and Ganonndorf's blood was changed. I'm 90% positive that those were the only asthetic changes made.

[GarrettCRW]

I have a first version gray cart, which has the chanting in the fire temple and red blood. These are not in the later gray cart versions. I heard that v1 gray carts are rarer than gold ones (but thats just what I heard)

Now I finally feel happy with my non-gold Ocarina of Time cartridge! :D *makes note to refer this to friend who has the gold cart version of said game*

[MegaDrive20XX]

Yep, the mirror shield was changed, and so was the design in the pushable blocks. They both had a crescent moon and a star on them, which is a symbol of Islam. And the original Fire Temple music had that chanting (which also sounded Islamic...), and Ganonndorf's blood was changed. I'm 90% positive that those were the only asthetic changes made.

Wow, so that explains it...wild but interesting fact there

[Zubiac666]

also the cube versions run in higher resolution

just thought I add this :)

[MegaDrive20XX]

also the cube versions run in higher resolution

just thought I add this :)

yup and if you notice in the Water Temple, the slow down has been fixed in some areas (I.E. Look around when you get to the third floor after playing the Orcarina)

[Ed Oscuro]

Hmm, getting a later grey cart version sounds pretty good now!


Yep, the mirror shield was changed, and so was the design in the pushable blocks. They both had a crescent moon and a star on them, which is a symbol of Islam.
I was wondering if that was the case! I remember the crescent moon now. Removing that was silly...were Islamic people offended?

- NON-POLITICALLY CORRECT BUT FACTUALLY TRUE STATEMENT WARNING -
*Disclaimer: I'm not a hater or a dedicated atheist, or Christian, so I'm not saying this in pursuit of any religio/political purpose.*

The crescent moon and star of the Islamic faith is actually a throwback to the days when worshippers of celestial bodies used those symbols. Nobody's quite sure about the nitty gritty details, but that's the truth. In all fairness: Monotheistic religions tend to be the oldest.

[unbroken]

"B) In the Gold cart verison, The mirror shield has a moon icon

C) Ganondorf coughs up red blood after the first battle with him (Gold cart only) "

Nope, early release gray carts are identical to the gold carts. My gray cart has the red blood and everything.


Wrong! Its a known fact that nintendo fixed many bugs in the grey version, you must have a very early version grey cart or something..



btw i believe there was a bug where you could one hit kill the last boss(or another boss) and they fixed this in the grey version[/b]

[Habeeb Hamusta]

I love that game. That and Link to the past are the only zelda games I liked, all the rest were horrible. Anyways, yea I noticed that difference too(in the blood at least, how did you even take the time to bother looking if the two had different symbols on the shields) but I never made the connection between the different color carts.

[MegaDrive20XX]

I love that game. That and Link to the past are the only zelda games I liked, all the rest were horrible. Anyways, yea I noticed that difference too(in the blood at least, how did you even take the time to bother looking if the two had different symbols on the shields) but I never made the connection between the different color carts.

To be quite honest, I love comparing games, especially when they are on different platforms. The minor stuff overlooked is what I like, I'll notice stuff like....in Resident Evil 2...there is a chick in a bikini on the calender when you pick up the sewer crank near the parking lot of the Police station...many miss it...but I love to explore everything when Im in a game.

Or like Room 109 (Blue Creek Apartments) in Silent Hill 2....the whisper can be heard...if you listen closely...it sounds like a conversation about someone plotting murder

[XxMe2NiKxX]

Someone posted it earlier... The V1 Grey carts are THE RAREST, the gold carts in the middle, with V2 Grey carts being the most common.

The V1 grey carts have no bug fixes from the gold, and even some that the gold cart doesn't (like the ability to kill Ganon in one hit).

I LOVE the Zelda games. All of them.

[Aussie2B]

The gold version and the early grey version had a glitch that allowed you to go through the game swordless, which in turn allowed you to do all sorts of crazy ass glitches. This was fixed in the later versions.

[EricRyan34]

I really wish that I played the Zeldas for N64. I didnt because I got a Playstation instead. Is there such thing as N64 roms that I could get?

[Ed Oscuro]

No, absolutely not. LOL

Go make an eBay seller's day.

[EricRyan34]

No, absolutely not. LOL

Go make an eBay seller's day.

Thats the thing, no cash!!

[unbroken]

The gold version and the early grey version had a glitch that allowed you to go through the game swordless, which in turn allowed you to do all sorts of crazy ass glitches. This was fixed in the later versions.


is there a way to tell the difference between v1 grey version and v2? like by serial numbers or dates or something. or do you actually have to play it to find out?

[Ed Oscuro]

I think there was something with the outlines of the heart containers or somethings, but I dont know any specifics.
Well, there's the stub of the information you and I are looking for, I guess.

[Hovoc]

so has anyone found any signifying mark to tell the 2 grey carts apart without playing through it?

[SkiDragon]

Ok, let me clarify.

I am pretty sure the different versions had something different about the outlines of the heart containers or something, but I dont know any specifics.

I think that later gray carts had no outlines, and the gold carts did, but I could have that switched around.

[Aussie2B]

That still requires you to play the game. I think what everyone wants to know is if there is a physical difference in the cart that you can see when shopping (so you don't buy a million grey carts hoping one will end up being the first version).

However, I personally know of no way. :/

[Hovoc]

That still requires you to play the game. I think what everyone wants to know is if there is a physical difference in the cart that you can see when shopping (so you don't buy a million grey carts hoping one will end up being the first version).

However, I personally know of no way. :/



yeah, like ar ethe labels all the same? is there a model number, SN, or revision number on the back?

[SkiDragon]

Well, assuming the actual circuit boards are the same for the gold and early gray versions, it would be fairly easy to make your own gray cart with the gold version inside. Not that Im saying people should, but the very fact that it would be easy kinda discounts this as being very collectible...

[Aussie2B]

And you can swap the later grey version into the gold casing and have a "SUP@R R@R3!!!1! Altered gold version!" :P

[Ed Oscuro]

Well, assuming the actual circuit boards are the same for the gold and early gray versions
People are saying the two games have differences, though...


it would be fairly easy to make your own gray cart with the gold version inside. Not that Im saying people should, but the very fact that it would be easy kinda discounts this as being very collectible...
Not very collectable? Ok...one less person to compete with I suppose! :D