I want an x box from ebay, help?

[charitycasegreg]

I was thinking about getting an x box on ebay for under 80 bucks. I know people can get good deals by buying a system with a Disk read error. Isnt there a kit you can buy on ebay also to fix this? If so has anyone here done this? Does it work? Thanks.

[tholly]

i dont think its worth your time and money

$80 DRE system + shipping

Kit to fix it

A game to try if you dont have any


= probably just as much as you would spend on the new system + controller + top spin / other game double disc


just get a new one that you are sure will work

[jjessop]

Why risk an Ebay purchase for a broken console when you can get an "official" factory refurbished one (or NEW with game bundle) for not much more?

I can't speak for X-box but people who claim to be fixing PS2's by swapping lasers and "adjusting" are just messing them up worse.

IMHO: If your not skilled in electronics get one in new condition.

JJ

[jonjandran]

I can't speak for X-box but people who claim to be fixing PS2's by swapping lasers and "adjusting" are just messing them up worse.

IMHO: If your not skilled in electronics get one in new condition.

JJ

What a load of BS.

I've put new lasers in around 20 PS2's and the people that bought them from me still have them and they're working fine.
Some from over 2 years ago.

[sirgeoph]

Why risk an Ebay purchase for a broken console when you can get an "official" factory refurbished one (or NEW with game bundle) for not much more?

I can't speak for X-box but people who claim to be fixing PS2's by swapping lasers and "adjusting" are just messing them up worse.

IMHO: If your not skilled in electronics get one in new condition.

JJ

Not if you have even the slightest bit of knowledge of electronics.

The company I work for has replaced laser or increased power on the lasers of literally thousands of PS2s, Xboxes, and GameCubes in the past 3 years. We get a few hundred systems in for repair weekly. And guess what... they all work now...

[omnedon]

jjessop is a big wig at SONY.

http://www.cgexpo.com/bios/jjessop.htm

He is a staunch advocate of the 'replace your PS2' policy.

I've repaired more than 200 PS2's. Virtually all of them working for the last 24 months and still going strong. That's more than I can say for an untampered with SCPH-50001 PS2, that is only 5 months old, that a local RenTo Own chain is now stuck with. More than one way to skin a cat.

If SONY wants to end the homemade repair solutions they could:

a) make more convenient SONY authorized service depots, and make repairs more reasonably priced, with faster turnaround time

b) somehow see to it that fewer people seek out alternative repair options (I wonder how they could do that? :roll: )


That would END what Mr. Jessop is lamenting. Simple. Posting about it here won't help.
SONY:"The fix will break the PS2" .

It's already broken.


Buy a new one. Buy a new one. Buy a new little one. Buy a new one.....


If I worked at SONY, I'd no doubt say the same thing. It's best to consider the source. In my case, I repair Xboxes, PS2's, NGC's, Atari 2600's, Neo Geo's, and everything I left out. I have my own agenda as well. Thing is, I make it clear that I have that agenda.

[The Manimal]

jjessop is a big wig at SONY.

http://www.cgexpo.com/bios/jjessop.htm

He is a staunch advocate of the 'replace your PS2' policy.

I've repaired more than 200 PS2's. Virtually all of them working for the last 24 months and still going strong. That's more than I can say for an untampered with SCPH-50001 PS2, that is only 5 months old, that a local RenTo Own chain is now stuck with. More than one way to skin a cat.

If SONY wants to end the homemade repair solutions they could:

a) make more convenient SONY authorized service depots, and make repairs more reasonably priced, with faster turnaround time

b) somehow see to it that fewer people seek out alternative repair options (I wonder how they could do that? :roll: )


That would END what Mr. Jessop is lamenting. Simple. Posting about it here won't help.
SONY:"The fix will break the PS2" .

It's already broken.


Buy a new one. Buy a new one. Buy a new little one. Buy a new one.....


If I worked at SONY, I'd no doubt say the same thing. It's best to consider the source. In my case, I repair Xboxes, PS2's, NGC's, Atari 2600's, Neo Geo's, and everything I left out. I have my own agenda as well. Thing is, I make it clear that I have that agenda.


What model number of the PS2 do you recommend? I would like PROGRESSIVE SCAN capabilities for gameplay but I would not plan on playing movie DVDs on it...

[omnedon]

They all seem to have a high fail rate. I like version 3 through 8. I dislike versions 1,2,9, and 10.

The new one may be great. The most recent one with progressive scan seems like junk to me, but that is my layman's opinion.

For the straight stuff, Jerry Jessop knows far more about it than I ever will. However he only seems to recommend that you buy another new PS2. In some people's cases, yet another, and another....

[jjessop]

How did what I post turn into reccomending he buy new PS2? You make that claim twice in this thread. Funny.....I can't find where I said it and that's because I didn't. In fact, if anything, I told him to purchase a new Xbox bundle vs broken from Ebay...........don't tell my employer:)

My point was don't buy a broken game system from Ebay for top dollar. An attempt to save a few dollars off a new or legit "factory Refurbished" one is not worth it.

Unless your an authorized facility you will never get the laser adjustments correct was my other point regarding repairs. Cleaning lasers is one thing, but swapping them opens up a can of worms.

JJ




For the straight stuff, Jerry Jessop knows far more about it than I ever will. However he only seems to recommend that you buy another new PS2. In some people's cases, yet another, and another....

[SoulBlazer]

Was there susposed to be a response? :hmm:

[tholly]

Was there susposed to be a response? :hmm:


i wondered the same thing....but i just assumed that he liked that comment so much that he wanted us to read it a second time

[SoulBlazer]

Well, that's good advice, but I remind people again that my XBox is used and bought refrubished from EB six months ago and it's worked great, even has a Samsung drive. :) But yeah, don't bother with EBay, it's not worth it.

[tholly]

Well, that's good advice, but I remind people again that my XBox is used and bought refrubished from EB six months ago and it's worked great, even has a Samsung drive. :) But yeah, don't bother with EBay, it's not worth it.

id credit the fact that it still works to luck....u got a good drive

if you didnt get a samsung drive, id have to assume that your xbox would most likely be gettind DREs right now

[SoulBlazer]

It's still under warrenty anyway. ;)

My GC was bought used also, but you can drop those off of a 20 story building and still have it work. :P

[omnedon]

@ Jerry Jessop, SCEA

Though it is true, you wisely counselled him to avoid Ebay, I have seen you post in the past, many times, that repairs should be avoided, and new PS2's should be purchased for the consumer's best value. However, when you make such claims, you always seem to forget to mention that you are employed by SCEA.

I do my best to help other forum members here get a clear account of where this advice comes from, since you decide not to.


Jerry Jessop of the SCEA said:

Cleaning lasers is one thing, but swapping them opens up a can of worms.

Very true, but alas, I've learned that as well. Just because you don't know me, does not make me some clueless rip off artist trying to screw people. I would not begin to question your superior knowledge of the PS2's hardware. What I do know is many of my customers have repaired systems in their hands that have lasted longer since I've repaired them, than they lasted from buying from the store new.

Thanks so much for sharing the information though.

FYI I DO NOT mod PS2's. I can, but my knowledge ofthe PS2 tells me it's a bad idea, for all kinds of reasons. I tell that to everyone who asks me if I can do it for them. I'm telling you this, because I am certian that I am shattering at least one assumption you've already made about me.

I have no problem with you, or SONY. I just don't like being painted with such a broad brush. I love video games. I love electronics. I love to learn.

[goatdan]

I personally think that...

If you do not have a broken system, do not get a broken system and expect it to work. Get a new system. It will last longer, and the price difference isn't that much.

If your system is already broken, by all means get a kit and try to fix it. But why start with a broken system that is a crapshoot right away? And if it turns out to be something more than just the laser, you're stuck with a broken system.

[EnemyZero]

if you electronic savvy then id say go for it, i bought a few broken xbox's of ebay from 15-40 bucks all with easyily fixable problems...like the hard drives go bad or the cd rom is broken, and most people arent going to tear there system apart if they dont know what there doing so they put it on ebay, for 80 bucks thats a leap of faith so ....if your good with stuff like that go for it, if not,...well go with a new system

[stuffedmonkey]

I will buy used stuff, I will buy new stuff, but I am very hesitant to buy known bad stuff - especially at that price. I enjoy repairing electronics myself, but 80$ for a broken xbox is a rip. For like 30-40 possibly. If you want a broken one, you should check your local Craigslist or something like that.

[The Manimal]

They all seem to have a high fail rate. I like version 3 through 8. I dislike versions 1,2,9, and 10.


This doesn't help a n00b like myself much :)

model numbers?

[SegaAges]

some guy works for sony. dude, have fun. that is all i am going to say about it (seriously, do not look deep into it, because i said what i mean).

for 80, you might as well try to get one here on the forums. 1 of my friends was looking for a ps2 and i was offered 1 for 79 counting shipping. no point in buying a broken 1 dude, because you never know what is wrong with it.

[omnedon]

SCPH-30001 - Versions 1 through 4
SCPH-35001 - versions 5 (i think)
SCPH- 39001 - versions 6 through 8
SCPH- 50001 - version 9

I may be off by one or two, and maybe Jerry can set us straight. As you can see, the model numbers tell you squat.

[The Manimal]

Guess I'll look for 35 or 39...

[SoulBlazer]

Yeah, that does'nt help much. Mine is 30, but since I bought it in early 2001 I hope it's at LEAST Version 3.

[DigitalSpace]

I bought mine in early 2001 as well. It's a 30001 and still works great to this day. It could be a version 3 because of that, but I'm guessing it's a version 2 because I bought it right after I found out Toys R Us finally had it in stock after that infamous shortage on the launch day in 2000.

[charitycasegreg]

haha, this thread doesnt need to be responded to anymore. A few minutes after I made it I decited I didnt want to pay that much for a broken one and am jsut gonna get one for christmas, then buy the extra stuff myslf.

[digitalpress]

haha, this thread doesnt need to be responded to anymore. A few minutes after I made it I decited I didnt want to pay that much for a broken one and am jsut gonna get one for christmas, then buy the extra stuff myslf.

This discussion hasn't been about you since the first post. Read it... informative despite your flip-flopping.

Carry on.