View Full Version : What game system was the biggest disapointment/let down to u
sabre2922
10-25-2004, 03:55 AM
I have to go with the Sega DREAMCAST. not because it was a bad system but for the obvious reasons that just about everyone here knows which is:
Lack of major third party support
Sega completely screwing up on the promotional/advertising end
IT WAS AND IS THE MOST KICK ASS SYSTEM to ever have such a short life-span and be completley ignored by the gaming masses that had been winged on the PS1 as there first gaming system or gaming experience :angry:
The Dreamcast had only 2 full years of support in the U.S. but in that miniscure period of time (especially for a gaming system) it produced a majority of the most memorable games in the last decade and a half! just think of what just a couple more years of both first and third party support could have accomplished even if it was only capcom and Sega in the end @_@
I now feel like a sellout because I sold both my Gamecube and X-box after i bought a second PS2 because whenever It was time to buy new games for any of the 3 systems I would always end up buying a couple PS2 games instead of Xbox or GC simply because I there was a larger selection in every genre.
dont get me wrong I like both the Xbox and GC and think that all are great systems and am well aware that the PS2 is the "weakest" out of the 3 when it comes to graphics but after the experience I had with the DC I just decided to go with a winner for once at least I know there will be support for my chosen system for long in the future and that isnt a comfort that i have had in a very long time.
you see I stuck with the DC for as long as possible after I sold my PS1 and in all it was worth it in the end but I missed out on a lot of great games released on the PS1 throught that time.
I guess im just rambling on now but I know that the only two systems that got any playtime while my Xbox and GC were collecting dust was my PS2 and the good ol' DC.
umm what was the question again?
yeah feel free to add any system new or old ;)
briguy578
10-25-2004, 04:17 AM
well, I don't really like any of these choices. Back in the day I was a huge sega guy. I loved my Sega Genesis and Sega CD. Then I got the 32x... then I got the Sega Saturn.
You know nothing of disapointment until you have sunk that much of your allowance into crappy 32x and Saturn games...
I'm not sure which one was more dissapointing, but I would probably have to go with the 32x, since the Saturn at least had Nights...
Fryeguy
10-25-2004, 04:30 AM
I've always loved my Dreamcast. I got both my 3DO and Jaguar on the same day. I plugged in my 3DO and was basically impressed with what I saw from it with the few games I had.
Then I plugged in the Jaguar. Needless to say, it don't get played nearly as often as anything else. The 2D games are beautiful, but then the 3D games bring you back into reality.
Berserker
10-25-2004, 04:35 AM
For what it's worth, I actually find the biggest disappointment to be the lack of choices on this poll.
32x.
Cauterize
10-25-2004, 04:45 AM
i cant beleive Dreamcast is on that list :( :( :(
where would webe without Dreamcast?
You have to take the DC off. It has great games and you said so your self. Weres the notable failures such as CD-i and 32x?
But out of those 3 I'll chose the Jaguar just wasted potential.
Graham Mitchell
10-25-2004, 07:34 AM
dont get me wrong I like both the Xbox and GC and think that all are great systems and am well aware that the PS2 is the "weakest" out of the 3 when it comes to graphics but after the experience I had with the DC I just decided to go with a winner for once at least I know there will be support for my chosen system for long in the future and that isnt a comfort that i have had in a very long time.
I pretty much did the same thing. I didn't care for the Xbox until really recently, so I never had one. I did have a Gamecube, but it was becoming like an N64, with a good game coming out once every 6 months. So I sold it when I moved to Chicago. Haven't really missed it.
I chose 3DO because I still own, and love, the Dreamcast. I think it may be the best system ever simply because the software on it is so good. But 3DO never impressed me. I watched it for years and years and everything was crap, or games you could get on something else (Doom, Wolfenstein...I had a PC. What was the point?) And after all that time, they effectively still had NOTHING. The Saturn came out and Crystal Dynamics ported all their best games over to it. I bought that instead.
Iron Draggon
10-25-2004, 08:05 AM
Definitely the Jaguar. If it was really 64BIT, and so was the N64, then why is even the worst N64 game way better than the best Jaguar game? I didn't get it then, and I still don't get it now. The Jaguar has some awesome 2D games, but it's 3D games are like preschoolers trying to learn 3D modeling. Meanwhile on the N64, there's never any doubt about the power of the system, so I wonder why this isn't the case with the Jaguar? I only buy new games for it for the sake of collecting them, not because I really wanna play them. And they've gotten to be as overpriced as the N64 games were too, so it really adds insult to injury to pay that much for games that are that bad. If it wasn't for Tempest 2000, Ruiner Pinball, & the VLM, I would've sold it.
I'm going to be different.
I'm going to say........the GB, the GBC, the GBA, the silly GBA SP (let's take the player's hands and REALLY squish them in together this time!!) and most likely the soon to be released GBA DS.
Mostly for personal reasons. I have a hard time immersing myself when I'm playing them. The experience isn't "big enough" I guess. I buy them......and they quickly sit on a shelf, a big waste of money.
I'm really struggling with my inner self, convincing it that I DON'T need to consider a PSP.......but I'm a Gran Turismo fan.....and I'm also sure that Sony's software library with have greater depth and breadth than Nintendo's.
*sigh*
tholly
10-25-2004, 10:14 AM
I'm going to be different.
I'm going to say........the GB, the GBC, the GBA, the silly GBA SP (let's take the player's hands and REALLY squish them in together this time!!) and most likely the soon to be released GBA DS.
Mostly for personal reasons. I have a hard time immersing myself when I'm playing them. The experience isn't "big enough" I guess. I buy them......and they quickly sit on a shelf, a big waste of money.
I'm really struggling with my inner self, convincing it that I DON'T need to consider a PSP.......but I'm a Gran Turismo fan.....and I'm also sure that Sony's software library with have greater depth and breadth than Nintendo's.
*sigh*
i was also going to say that...but just the GBC, not the other ones
when it was popular i only had the system and one GBC game....i never really got into the system and i think it could have been a lot better
fishsandwich
10-25-2004, 10:24 AM
My biggest disappointment is the Saturn. So much potential, so much untapped power, so many cool Japanese games that STAYED in Japan... what a waste.
The 32x is a lot like the Saturn, only without the fantastic Japanese games. I think it also had a lot of potential and untapped power, but it was a bad idea from the start.
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I have to say the Dreamcast myself. I bought it when it first came out and I had high hopes for the system. But it never really caught on and basically at first all I saw for it was fighters and RPG's. And I hate fighters and RPG's. I personally am a big fan of platformers and while a few finally did come out for the Dreamcast it was too little too late for me. Funny thing is today I really like the system because all the good games I was able to pick up cheap after it died, but still it was a huge disappointment for me at the time...
dreamcaster
10-25-2004, 10:50 AM
Personally I think this a pretty ill-conceived poll.
Anyway, I've found the GameCube to be the biggest let down for me so far.
Aussie2B
10-25-2004, 10:53 AM
well, I don't really like any of these choices. Back in the day I was a huge sega guy. I loved my Sega Genesis and Sega CD. Then I got the 32x... then I got the Sega Saturn.
You know nothing of disapointment until you have sunk that much of your allowance into crappy 32x and Saturn games...
I'm not sure which one was more dissapointing, but I would probably have to go with the 32x, since the Saturn at least had Nights...
At least you can modify your Saturn and have a massive library of great Japanese imports available for playing. The 32X sucks in every territory.
Since I don't want to judge systems I've never played or ones I have very little experience with, I'm gonna have to go with the Dreamcast. Don't get me wrong; I do like the system and it does have some very good games. However, I just never find myself playing it. I bet out of all the time I've spent using it, I've spent more time playing Genesis games than actual Dreamcast games. First of all, I'm big on RPGs, and there just isn't much there. Stuff like Phantasy Star Online and Skies of Arcadia doesn't interest me. Now, RPGs don't make or break a system for me. The lack of them on N64 doesn't stop me from absolutely loving that system and playing it all the time. But when you get into the other stuff on Dreamcast... sports, racing, fighters, arcade stuff like Crazy Taxi, etc., again the games don't appeal to me much. It's hard for me to put my finger on exactly why I'm not finding much to interest myself, but that's just the way it is.
stuffedmonkey
10-25-2004, 10:55 AM
I would say the most disappointing device is the CDi - for several reasons. it was the SNES cd add-on that never happened. I remember reading every single rumor about the device in EGM. Once the neutered beast finally came out as a stand-alone from Phillips... well it just sucked. Sucky games, no support..... I remember checking one out in Radio Shack one day, and just wondering what could have been. If Nintendo hadn't goofed on releasing cd based games (twice!), the market could have been dramatically.
BigGeorgeJohnson
10-25-2004, 11:10 AM
I think I was most dissapointed with the Jaguar. I didn't even buy one till the very end when it and the games were dirt cheap and the PS and Saturn were $300 dollars. I picked one up with complete in box with pack in Cybermorph, and Alien Vs Predator and Iron Soldier for around 40 bucks I think. I really enjoyed those games, but ended up selling the system for $35.
Anyone know what the specs were for the Jag?
devils advocate
10-25-2004, 11:16 AM
Hmmmm.. I'm going to go by the title here, which does not mention anything about the system having to be a commercial failure. Just a dissapointing system to the poster.
With that, I nominate the PS2. I bought my system at launch, having pre ordered many months in advance.
I purchased SSX, Tekken Tag and DOA2 Hardcore with it.
I was dissapointed from day one. SSX was the only launch game worth a hill of beans. And I RENTED many. Tekken Tag rarely got played, and rarely does to this day. It sounds like my PS2 is going to explode every time it reads the disc! Same for any other tag game I've seen. My neighbours thought this game was very annoying as well, and were quite happy when my launch PS2 started giving me disc read errors.
Well, three PS2's later, and I still only have 15 games for the thing, in comparison to 30 or so for my GC and around fifty for my XBox.
The only thing my PS2 is used for now, is for some neat quirky games like Mr Mosquito, Rez, Katamari Damacy etc, and to redistribute dust bunnies around the consoles base. Why buy inferior quality ports for a noisy, slow system?
I'm sure glad I didn't buy the hard drive, with all of SCEA's promises of "support" for it. But I Digress, I guess 100 bucks isn't so bad for a quick loading FF game, right?
The online for PS2 is nothing short of craptacular. Console online, needs to distinguish itself from PC online., or it's just a lackluster, inferior version of it. I played Socom for two days. Have not used the online since. On the other hand, MS has most definately distinguished its service from the PC sector. Try it, and i'll need not explain.
I'm not a fanboy, I have all modern systems. I love my Dreamcast. Never even felt let down, when they ceased production, I've gotten great deals on fantastic software ever since. Only this year did the PSO servers go down.
Love my GC. But I had an idea of what to expect from release. I've gotten that.No more, but no less.
Love my Xbox. This is the system that I buy cross platform on usually. The live service was BETTER than I had hoped, and they listened to wife, and gave her a controller that fits her hand, after much complaining! LOL.
SCEA, on the other hand, just told my buddy indirectly, that while they were sure glad he remained loyal by replacing his broken unit,and hoped he was as impressed as they were by the new slim and compact redesign, they weren't sure what he should do with that big old hard drive he bought. Squaresoft wasn't so sure either.
Regards, Julian
MegaDrive20XX
10-25-2004, 11:35 AM
Jaguar, first time playing DOOM....and I said "Where's the background music?" only to know that after you finish the stage, then you can hear one tune from the original game.
Sega 32X, when it was first announced, I think all sega fans wanted one, but with weak support, a few ports, a few re-releases...it was just sad
Virtual Boy, as much as I enjoyed it, I wanted more games and some two-player games, since we never got the link cable to begin with...and how many times we got blind over that thing is priceless lol...wait...crap....that's why I wear glasses now :( DAMN YOU NINTENDO!
Saturn, american support was sad, when they threw out the over priced system back in May of 95', everyone was laughing..and then saying they were going to release the "Sega Neptune" that year was a joke...(Genesis/32X in one...but hey, I would have bought one)
Sega CDX, looked awesome, but wow what an evil price tag...$499 or something...gee just like Saturn...
GameBoy Color, I agree, this system could have been better, it was so close to perfection....(What pissed me off, is CastleVania 2: Simon's Quest was supposed to be remade for GBC, just like SMB DX, but it never happened...instead we got that god awful Castlevania Legends...don't get me wrong...it might be rare now...but god it sucked)
GameBoy Pocket, about 2 1/2 year life span (Spring of 96' till Fall of 98)....ate AAA batteries fast...poor thing...I remember the jokes..."Oh great, green on green is now...black on black...big triumph"
Nintendo 64...YES I said it! as many PSX ports were trying to be ported while not focusing on what the people wanted, only a few handful of titles are remembered to the public eye. GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Zelda, Super Smash Bros...gee..what do those games have in common? First party support! Nintendo only gives a crap about themselves, because when they have an idea, they stick to it...usually..*coughs e-reader!* excuse me, I have a bad cold I think...Some games on N64 look like crap now or are unbearable to play by today's standards...I'm glad to get that off my chest, N64 Sucks, yes indeed, but I love it because I look out for the underdogs and give them the respect they deserved.
Bottom line, there is no such thing as a bad system, only bad developers. Each system has their gems that made them sparkle back in the day and anyone can name the top five to ten easily for each one. You just got to try and play it without hearing all the criticism.
Captain Wrong
10-25-2004, 11:39 AM
Y'know, here's my thing. I understand people's beef with the N64 not having as many good games, but damn if I didn't play the hell out of the ones that were out there. I can't count the hours I logged on Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Mario Golf (yeah, I love that game) and a couple of others. It was the kind of system that only had a handfull of games that really grabbed me, but what a handful it was.
Now, I was really hoping to find the same thing with the Gamecube. I knew it wasn't going to have the size of library as the PS2 (or even the Xbox) but I assumed I'd find that one or two games that make the whole thing worth it. Saddly, I still haven't found those games. I know, there's the new Mario Golf, but I still play the old one. I'm looking for something different, not a sequel or extention of something started on the N64.
So that's mine, the Gamecube. I had high hopes...
MegaDrive20XX
10-25-2004, 11:47 AM
Y'know, here's my thing. I understand people's beef with the N64 not having as many good games, but damn if I didn't play the hell out of the ones that were out there. I can't count the hours I logged on Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Mario Golf (yeah, I love that game) and a couple of others. It was the kind of system that only had a handfull of games that really grabbed me, but what a handful it was.
Secretly, I played the hell out of N64 over any other system, which was a shock for me...during the peak of GoldenEye days, I wanted to search out more and more games for it, since it was pratically the only system that was on in my home at that time lol
Mario Golf does rock and so does Mario Tennis...then again, most people have seen my thread about N64 favorites. :embarrassed: shameless plug-in!
Kodak moment for me...Bomberman 64 and a few of my cousins...long long night there...
tritium
10-25-2004, 11:47 AM
I gt a sega cd a couple of weeks ago . So far its been the most dissapointing system I own.
Second is the PS2. Soul Calibur 2 load times were an embarrasment. The GC version runs so much better
I love and still play and buy stuff for my dreamcast. I owned a PS2 then I traded it in for more dreamcast games. The titles on the ps2 just arent as appealing to me. (With the exception of .hack and shadowhearts).
-Tritium
EnemyZero
10-25-2004, 11:50 AM
PS2 should be on the list, thats my most dissapointing
brykasch
10-25-2004, 11:51 AM
To me the biggest dissapointment was the n64, bulky poorly made controllers, a pitiful library. I still don't have the systems only the handful of games that I did like (mario 64, ogre battle etc) that aren't avail to play on the game cube. I play those via emulation ( I own the actually carts mind you). Tho it did give us the goodness that is sin and punishment.
slip81
10-25-2004, 11:54 AM
Definately the 32x for me. I was so jazzed about it, I wasted all of my Christmas wishes on it (my parents got me the system and a few games) and I got it and hooked it all up and started playing and I was like WTF, this thing blows.
BigGeorgeJohnson
10-25-2004, 12:37 PM
I found this site when I was searching for the Jag Specs, it's kind of interesting to see all the specs for the current Gen of systems as well. Although maybe someone more knowledgable can explain what some of the specs mean. They also have specs for other systems going back as far as Atari. I never knew the DC was so underpowered compared to PS2 and Xbox and GCN. Check out the 5th Gen of systems on the site as well N64 to the poor Jag.
http://www.pcvsconsole.com/features/consoles/
tritium
10-25-2004, 12:45 PM
DC underpowered? Funny how Soul Calibur runs better on the DC than Soul Calibur 2 runs on the ps2. The ps2 is just as powerful as the dc and was overhyped.
Im more than happy to support my cube, even if it does have limited software. I have no use for filler crap, I dont have the time I had when I was in high school to waste time on crappy games.
-Tritium
Jive3D
10-25-2004, 02:28 PM
Bottom line, there is no such thing as a bad system, only bad developers. Each system has their gems that made them sparkle back in the day and anyone can name the top five to ten easily for each one. You just got to try and play it without hearing all the criticism.
Right on!
Im more than happy to support my cube, even if it does have limited software. I have no use for filler crap, I dont have the time I had when I was in high school to waste time on crappy games.
So True.
The Dreamcast pissed me off at first because of the lack of good Launch games. Sonic ruled, but at the time I had no interest in Sould Calibur. I got rid of the system after beating sonic only to re-aquire a DC a few years later to catch up on the excellent games. Better Launch games, better 3rd party and better advertising would have helped.
Virtual Boy, still one of my favs. Awesome system, but sure did suck when the final word came that Dragon Hopper just wasn't coming out.
CD-i. Boy, did I think I was cool when my dad bought this for me upon release. Seriously what the F was he thinking!? Wasn't that thing like $1,000 when it was released? Back when the digital video cart was $300 bucks (which I've seen go for less than $5 now ha!) CD-i had a handful of goodies, but mostly crapolas. I still had an awesome time with it. Burn Cycle is a fond memory.
GBC was far to silly looking to be taken seriously by gamers. I mean TEAL colored? c'mon Nintendo, what's next Purple? Oh yeah, I guess Purple was next. Sheesh.
Famidrive-16
10-25-2004, 02:45 PM
I found this site when I was searching for the Jag Specs, it's kind of interesting to see all the specs for the current Gen of systems as well. Although maybe someone more knowledgable can explain what some of the specs mean. They also have specs for other systems going back as far as Atari. I never knew the DC was so underpowered compared to PS2 and Xbox and GCN. Check out the 5th Gen of systems on the site as well N64 to the poor Jag.
http://www.pcvsconsole.com/features/consoles/
so eh, where's the 64 bit in the jaguar? x_x
Let's see....
I'll start off with the Game Boy Pocket. Geezus, what oddball memories with that one. The buttons were miniscule, it had the very ugly black on yellow thing going on (and you could barely see the graphics when it was very sunny or bright) And not to mention it ate up batteries like Pac-Man. I don't even know where mine is right now.
The N64, I loved it and still do, but I'd be lying if I said it was nintendo's best seller (excluding a couple games) When it first came out there was the launch titles, some new ones, and some here and there in 1997... heck I can only remember ten games that year for the 64 that got hype, while the PSX was getting loads of games by the seconds. It really got some action in 98 but by then it was looked a bit down upon.
ScottK
10-25-2004, 03:25 PM
Bottom line, there is no such thing as a bad system, only bad developers. Each system has their gems that made them sparkle back in the day and anyone can name the top five to ten easily for each one. You just got to try and play it without hearing all the criticism.
I used to think that until I played an N-GAGE. Now that's a terrible system.
MegaDrive20XX
10-25-2004, 03:33 PM
Bottom line, there is no such thing as a bad system, only bad developers. Each system has their gems that made them sparkle back in the day and anyone can name the top five to ten easily for each one. You just got to try and play it without hearing all the criticism.
I used to think that until I played an N-GAGE. Now that's a terrible system.
It's Nokia bro...I have never considered Nokia a game company...and probably never will...N-Gage is the devil bastard's son of Game.Com
Promophile
10-25-2004, 04:17 PM
The Saturn. So much potential squashed....
goatdan
10-25-2004, 04:35 PM
Definitely the Jaguar. If it was really 64BIT, and so was the N64, then why is even the worst N64 game way better than the best Jaguar game? I didn't get it then, and I still don't get it now.
Because the "bits" in a system are only part of the story. Why is it that the best looking Intellivision game doesn't look even half as good as the worst SNES game? The Intellivision really had a 16-bit processor.
On top of that, I would debate that point. Certain Jaguar games (Tempest 2000 comes to mind) look great because of how stuff was optimized for the system. I think that the graphical style on T2K looks better than the N64's worst, easily.
so eh, where's the 64 bit in the jaguar? x_x
The Jaguar was a 64-bit system if you look at the other chips it had on board. It had a 16 bit processor with two 32 bit and two 64 bit chips. The 68000 processor on the Jaguar is actually the exact same one at the core of the Genesis, but I think that no one would argue that the Jag can do some stuff better than the Geni.
The Dreamcast looks better than the N64, but it was only a 64 bit system.
The GameCube and Xbox look nicer than the Playstation and Saturn, yet at the core those two systems are 32 bit machines. Tempest 2000 doesn't hold a candle to Halo or something like that. It is all in how the system it built. I'm always amazed that more collectors still believe the hype from the Sega Genesis and then the Atari Jaguar's advertisements -- that the *only* thing that made a system better was the bits it could process...
Now, onto the topic:
The most disappointing system in my mind was the Jaguar because of the complete lack of direction. Every time that it looked like the system might get something or do something that would make it truly stand out, Atari pulled back and gave up. The Virtuality headsets were incredible. I've been able to try it out on a real Jaguar and see it for myself -- this accessory alone would've been HUGE. The response was incredible, and a true VR system for $150 would have been incredible. Had Atari capitalized on that alone, they would've been a lot further out of the hole.
The Jaguar had some insane 2D ability. Unfortunately, it came out at the same time that 3D became all the rage so they didn't want to release 2D titles for it. Had titles like Bomberman (which was completed) and Mortal Kombat 3 come out for it, it would've really shown how nice the system was and given it a larger following today.
The Jaguar also was allowed to get way too many crappy ports. Why they allowed games like Double Dragon V to be released is beyond me.
Aussie2B
10-25-2004, 05:26 PM
GBC was far to silly looking to be taken seriously by gamers. I mean TEAL colored? c'mon Nintendo, what's next Purple? Oh yeah, I guess Purple was next. Sheesh.
Teal rocks, man. O_o One of the best color variants for any console or handheld ever, in my opinion. It's a very pretty shade of blue.
RetroYoungen
10-25-2004, 07:04 PM
My biggest disappointment was when I actually payed full price for a brand-spankin' new Game.com.
Yeah. I said it.
I bought that thing, mostly for the novelty of Lights Out and because I was in love with any and all handheld systems. Then I turned it on and realized just how bad it was. It had software that I could put in names and numbers of friends to remember, and it couldn't save! HUGE design flaw! The only reason I kept it as long as I did was because I loved playing Solitaire on it.
I say did because the batteries corrhoded in it, and I had a reason to throw it away. So I did. :evil: