GT 4 screen shots WILL NEARLY KILL CABLE

[autobotracing]

OMG I am so going to preorder this game.


X_x

http://delobbo.com/gran_turismo_4_1.html

[tholly]

WOW......(thats all that needs to be said)

[downfall]

Impressive! If only the game plays that smoothly, then we shall all be in for a treat.

[GrayFox]

Not done with all the pictures yet, but a SKYLINE RS-TURBO. Dude, that car is so 'narly'. I love it. I cannot wait for this game.

*keeps looking at pictures with glee*

[Gzilla23]

absolutely amazing.....I can't wait to get my hands on it.

[Gamereviewgod]

Yeah, we really need another console generation in a year. x_x

[Captain Wrong]

Are these taken from a PS2 or a dev station?

[SegaAges]

i guess this means that i have to get off my lazy ass and finally go buy gt3 :D

[Jibbajaba]

It should be noted that all of these screenshots are of replays, and not of actual game play. Not that it makes them any less impressive, but GT3 had really good replay graphics, too. I will definitely be picking this game up unless there is something wrong with it that makes it any less amazing than its 3 predecessors, but it would still be nice to see some actual gameplay screenshots just for comparison to GT3.

Chris

[Duncan]

Got mine pre-ordered already. 8-)

Anyone else think Dec. 15 is kinda late on Sony's part to make the Christmas season?

Ah, well. Better late than never -- this is basically the same thing that happened to GT2, still my favorite racing game of all time. :D

[rbudrick]

Damn, some of those pics, if you just showed them to someone without telling them it's a videogame, they wouldn't know. The detail in some of those mountain scenes is incredible...

Are those gameplay screens or just cut scenes?

-Rob

[stressboy]

Damnit, now I have another game to add to my list.

[autobotracing]

yeah I looked through all the shots and the only in game shots show the hud view.


I would like to see some action shots myself too.

[SMB]

Is it just me or do you think too that this might be one of the most realistic racing games ever made?

[lendelin]

Great! GT4 is the only game this year I'll buy for $50.

If the control is refined, and the game looks as good as in the pics, it is another masterpiece. I can't wait to drive in Paris! :)

[Querjek]

Great! GT4 is the only game this year I'll buy for $50.

If the control is refined, and the game looks as good as in the pics, it is another masterpiece. I can't wait to drive in Paris! :)
No, it won't be the only game you pay $50 for--I' pretty sure that GT4 will be $39.99 at launch.

[Six Switch]

Too bad it won't be online...

[Duncan]

Great! GT4 is the only game this year I'll buy for $50.

If the control is refined, and the game looks as good as in the pics, it is another masterpiece. I can't wait to drive in Paris! :)
No, it won't be the only game you pay $50 for--I' pretty sure that GT4 will be $39.99 at launch.

He's right -- this being a Sony-branded release, it'll most likely MSRP at $40. Forgot about that entirely. :)

[postulio]

im gonna buy a ps2 for that it seems.

[Jibbajaba]

Great! GT4 is the only game this year I'll buy for $50.

If the control is refined, and the game looks as good as in the pics, it is another masterpiece. I can't wait to drive in Paris! :)

No....VEGAS BABY, VEGAS!!!!!!

Chris

[EricRyan34]

Those graphics are simply amazing.

[badinsults]

The graphics are awesome and such, but I cannot stand Grand Turismo. It is the most boring racing game in existance. I don't see how anyone can have the patience and attention span to win everything. I watched my brother play one of the 500 mile races for a while, and i couldn't take it. I don't see how he could take it either. I mean, you might as well play Everquest if you are that dedicated to a video game (not to knock you folks who like MMORGS).

[Algol]

Not bad. If I cared anything for racing games, I would be going gaga right now. :)

[Mr.FoodMonster]

Wow.

Just... wow.

[Flack]

The graphics are awesome and such, but I cannot stand Grand Turismo. It is the most boring racing game in existance.

AMEN. I'd take Pole Position any day. Sure, GT looks nicer, but I wanna race, not mess around with the angle of the wing of my car for hours.

[kainemaxwell]

WOW, they look so real!!

[jdc]

I've been waiting oh-so-patiently for a looooong time for this release. Why? Because the gameplay can last you for years. Sometimes it can get a little heavy, but that's why you also own arcade racers. Balance.

[Jorpho]

Dang pretty indeed. But, like others, I cannot get that excited about yet another racing game.

[GarrettCRW]

Someone seriously needs to hurt the webmaster for putting dozens of huge, super high quality screen grabs on one page like that. Tog would not be pleased.

[soniko_karuto]

meh, another gran turismo.

[Iron Draggon]

DAMN! If they ever release that for the PC, I'm all over it! But until then, BAH!

[Promophile]

Awesome graphics. I wish they could put that much realism into a game thats not boring as hell though.

[lendelin]

The graphics are awesome and such, but I cannot stand Grand Turismo. It is the most boring racing game in existance.

AMEN. I'd take Pole Position any day. Sure, GT looks nicer, but I wanna race, not mess around with the angle of the wing of my car for hours.

C'mon you two, neither is "boring" justified nor "messing around with car specs"!! :)

I'm not interested in cars at all, I have no clue about them, and GT3 was very accessible. You got instant access to all kinds of cars in arcade mode. I never intended to do the career mode, but I did it all. You don't have to mess around with car specs at all to be successful, good driving is enough.

Gran Turismo is a masterpiece, it is old school gameplay in perfection. Simple control like in all racers, brake, acceleration, and steering...that's it. The gameplay is outstanding becasue of realistic car physics, curve techniques pay off, and getting the feel for the car and knowing the track.

It is Pole Position with exceptional and perfrected gameplay. Thank goodness we have a racer in which braking and the ideal curve line is important. This thing has as much gameplay as the best RPG.

[buttasuperb]

Looks nice, but I'm waiting for Forza Motorsport

[buttasuperb]

double post woot!

[Jive3D]

What? Wipeout 5? Developed by Psygnosis and designed by TDR? What? Wrong thread? What? I'm full of shit? Dang.

[zektor]

Looks great, but as said earlier, if it is anything like the previous games I will be turned off right away. I have always been into racing games (Hang On, Outrun, and the like) and when I want to play a racing game...well...I want to race right away.

I STILL think the best racing game I ever played was the original Ridge Racer. I just couldn't get enough of that game...still can't :)

[petewhitley]

Like many others, I cannot comprehend how anyone who has given the Gran Turismo serious a serious chance wouldn't love it. I would think many of the haters haven't really sat down with one for any amount of time.

[lendelin]

Looks great, but as said earlier, if it is anything like the previous games I will be turned off right away. I have always been into racing games (Hang On, Outrun, and the like) and when I want to play a racing game...well...I want to race right away.

I STILL think the best racing game I ever played was the original Ridge Racer. I just couldn't get enough of that game...still can't :)

In arcade mode you can race right away! :) In GT3 there were I think around 50 cars accessible from the getgo, and almost all tracks were available. You could race in four different classes with all kinds of cars. In carreer mode you had to work your way up, the beginning is a bit slow, but then it is fast paced, interesting, and you nevr get stuck.

I never had to tweak a car, the car tweaking is an option for car nuts. I think it is a myth that GT3 is actually complicated, too "realistic" or even boring. It is a realistic racer years ahead of the competition when it comes to gameplay (=controls = car physics = 30 or 500 parameters for each car, it is Polyphonys secret) I nver experiences a racer, realistic or arcadey with this kind of controls and gameplay.. Controls means for a racer rich gameplay, and Polyphony perfected it and polished it.

GT is SIMPLE, guys, SIMPLE as it can get, and offers some of the richest gameplay games ever achieved. GT 3 (and 4 will be) is a classic, no doubt (not the first two games, though!!)

[-hellvin-]

The graphics are awesome and such, but I cannot stand Grand Turismo. It is the most boring racing game in existance.

Agreed as well. Not to drag on the thread but I didn't find gt3 too much fun. They sure did make the graphics impressive though.

[classicb]

I'm still going to hold out for Enthusia but I'm sure this will be good too.

[kai123]

I will get this early next year. I was going to get on release date but they removed online play and that turned me off from it. All racing games should be online. That goes for fighting games too. It gets boring racing the computer all the time. Besides my friends aren't into racing games. :(

[Brian_Provinciano]

Indeed they look absolutely fantastic. However, everyone should know better than to trust PS2 screen shots. They always take them at high resolution modes and such that TVs just can't really display. On actual TVs they look all rigid and aliased. If you ask me, it's false advertising.

[Oobgarm]

Great! GT4 is the only game this year I'll buy for $50.

If the control is refined, and the game looks as good as in the pics, it is another masterpiece. I can't wait to drive in Paris! :)
No, it won't be the only game you pay $50 for--I' pretty sure that GT4 will be $39.99 at launch.

He's right -- this being a Sony-branded release, it'll most likely MSRP at $40. Forgot about that entirely. :)

I doubt Sony will price it at $40. I mean, I could be wrong, but I think they'll milk that extra $10. It's a big title that they KNOW people will run out and buy, I'd think they would take advantage of that. I personally don't care either way.

It looks like the photo mode I saw at E3 is being included. Just look at the indoor-looking shots on the first page-it looks like the cars were posed there. Ho-lee shit. Online play or not, I am most definitely picking this up. At least I'll have a month in between Need for Speed Underground 2 and GT4.

[YoshiM]

I never played GT3 but I did play GT's 1 and 2. I didn't like the license courses or the control and what was the real killer was an overall lack of speed. Not sure if GT3 fixed that but I won't know-the first two killed my interest.

I am, however, interested to see how well GT4 does. It's been a long time in the making and a lot of people are drooling for it. Will it be "the real deal" or will it just be a lotta hype and no substance?

[davidleeroth]

I'll add another wow to this thread.

However, what I would really like to see in GT4 is:

1. Somekind of A.I.
2. More cars from 60s-80s. Family saloons, hot hatches, Group B cars. The selection in GT3 was boooo-ring.
3. Better, or should I say new tracks. More bends.
4. NO MORE endurance races. The thing in endurance race is realibility, in GT cars don't fall apart or get damaged. Enuff said.
5. Attention to the handling in rally mode. A joke in GT3.

[Barbarianoutkast85]

I cant wait for this game I read in the new gameinformer that there is going to be snow tracks and drag racing which I think is going to be sweet as ummm sugardaddys

[ddockery]

Maybe you can just pick up and race, but it takes a long time to do well in these games, at least for me. I've never managed to learn appropriate braking and curve lines, and damnit I don't want to. I see the appeal, it's just not for me though. Especially the career modes, ugh.

[Captain Wrong]

Gran Turismo is a masterpiece, it is old school gameplay in perfection. Simple control like in all racers, brake, acceleration, and steering...that's it. The gameplay is outstanding becasue of realistic car physics, curve techniques pay off, and getting the feel for the car and knowing the track.

"Old school gameplay"?!? In Gran Turismo?!?!?!??? Whaaaa???

There's one thing missing in your quote there that would be old school game play and that's any description of the other drivers. Basically the other cars in GT drive the racing line and offer little challenge. The game then becomes an issue of learning the track and tweaking out your car. While this is fun for a while, without the drone cars making things interesting, it gets boring as hell over the long haul.

As for the alleged realisim, has anyone driven a car that spins out as easily as most of the GT cars do? How about the fact that I can go head-first into a wall or other car at top speed and just kind of bounce back and finish the race?

Gran Turismo is more or less like Pokemon with cars. Gotta catch em all. Yeah I put an ungodly amount of time into GT 1 & 2, but unless that series gets some real AI in 4, I'm gonna pass.

[autobotracing]

As for the alleged realisim, has anyone driven a car that spins out as easily as most of the GT cars do? How about the fact that I can go head-first into a wall or other car at top speed and just kind of bounce back and finish the race



Thats one of the things that I hate also .I heard they can damage the cars due to the license with the car makers therefore they can damage them in the game.

[slip81]

Shit those visuals are amazing! But I would rather give up a little in the graphics department for the addition of smooth online gameplay. I'll get GT4 when it comes down to $20. I like the games but I'm with Flack, I wanna race. I'll only get GT4 because it looks so damn good.

[Jasoco]

I'm not a fan of serious racing games. I don't really like racing. I do love NFS:HP2, if only for the police chases and hell, I'd love a Hot Pursuit 3 if it looked like that.

To me, the only racing I want is Kart racing games and non-serious ones.

But I will admit I am impressed by the graphics. I will probably have to pick it up when it gets really cheap if only to have it. But I'd much rather it be Hot Pursuit and have police chasing you down country roads. (None of that Underground shit.)

[jerkov]

I'm definitely buying GT 4, and although the graphics look awesome, I'm more interested in having a larger selection of cars (the selection in GT 3 was way too small) and racing on the new tracks. Most of my time in GT is just tweaking around with various cars, so I want more (about 500-600 would be nice). I've been a fan of this series since the very beginning, I just hope they don't delay this again.


As for the alleged realisim, has anyone driven a car that spins out as easily as most of the GT cars do? How about the fact that I can go head-first into a wall or other car at top speed and just kind of bounce back and finish the race?

I agree with the part about slamming into walls (damn the car companies for not allowing damage!), but I don't understand the spinning out comment. If you've ever taken part in a track day or an autocross, then you'd know it's quite possible to spin a car out at only 30-40 MPH - it's all about pushing the car past its limits. I think that the car control aspect is, overall, presented very realistically in all of the GT games. The biggest complaint I had was the suckiness of FWD car handling in GT 3, but I'm not a FWD fan anyways. It was also impossible to launch almost all of the FWD cars in the game, which certainly isn't very realistic. I hope this is addressed in the new game.

And I agree with Mr. David Lee Roth - no more endurance races! These are the only races I never bother to do because I literally fall asleep about a quarter of the way into the races.

[kevincure]

1) I think they've said they fixed the "bumper car" turn so it doesn't work anymore.

2) I'm pretty sure they're simulating damage, though they can't show it on the cars.

3) jerkov, you're in luck. There are 5-600 cars in GT4.

4) Someone wanted classic cars - they've got this in GT4 as well. I think you can even drive a Model T and a bunch of concept cars.

[Jasoco]

That sounds very cool. But I hate that the a-holes won't allow damage to their cars in the game. This for some reason ticks me off most. I'll get it when it becomes $20 just for the amount of stuff and realism, but not before. I just don't play racing games for racing. (In fact, unless there's a way to unlock all the secrets with a code, I won't want it. Not if I have to actually play through the game.)

[Iron Draggon]

Hey, what the hell is the deal with all the car companies not allowing any damage to be shown on their precious car models in licensed racing games anyway? Like they never wreck? Like they won't be crushed beyond all recognition if you slam one into a wall at over 200mph? I think it's far more dangerous to sell games like this which are touted as the ultimate in racing realism, and yet there is no depiction of any damage whatsoever to the cars when they crash. This is why we hear about teenage street racers killing themselves in fatal high speed car crashes all the time, because these kids have been led to believe that if they do wipe out, they'll just be bounced around a little bit and then they'll be right back on the track, still in 1st place. It's stupid as hell, and there's an awful lot of kids who are just naive enough to actually believe that this really is the way that racing real cars really works in the real world too. They're actually being conditioned to believe that no matter how bad they wreck, it's really not that bad, and they'll still be OK.

I think the damn car companies need to get over themselves on this issue, and maybe they need to be sued for the wrongful deaths of some of these kids who play these games and then go out in their real cars and get killed because all these stupid car companies don't want anybody to see what will happen to their cars when they wreck in the real world. It's just retarded! Sure, everybody with an ounce of common sense knows that a real car will become an aluminum can in a high speed crash, but most of today's kids simply haven't been raised with an ounce of common sense, and all those little disclaimers at the beginning of the games aren't helping a damn bit either. All that really tells these kids is now they have something to prove too, that it won't happen to them because they are so skilled at the games. If I was more of an activist, I'd start lobbying for some new laws about this BS, and force these stupid car companies to let all the game makers show exactly what happens to their cars when they wreck, that just might help.

[alexkidd2000]

I refuse to believe that those are PS2 graphics. Those look like high res computer graphics to me. The PS2 is a pos nowadays, anyone played GTA 5? There is no way the game will look that good.

[Jasoco]

I refuse to believe that those are PS2 graphics. Those look like high res computer graphics to me. The PS2 is a pos nowadays, anyone played GTA 5? There is no way the game will look that good.Yeah! And how about Katamari Damacy! The PS2 MUST have shitty graphics! :roll:

BTW, that was sarcasm. GTA 5 isn't the pinnacle of graphic technology. You can't look at a game made by a completely different company and assume just because their game looks unrealistic that obviously no one can make a game look realistic.

And look at me! Defending the PS2! What have I come to??

[lendelin]

I never played GT3 but I did play GT's 1 and 2. I didn't like the license courses or the control and what was the real killer was an overall lack of speed. Not sure if GT3 fixed that but I won't know-the first two killed my interest.

I am, however, interested to see how well GT4 does. It's been a long time in the making and a lot of people are drooling for it. Will it be "the real deal" or will it just be a lotta hype and no substance?

You missed something!! I never liked the first two GTs either: the control wasn't good, grainy graphics of a racer which intended to produce photorealistic graphics; it was more like the older realistic racers: hit the gas pedal, slow down, hardly barke and anticipate a curve; the gameplay value wasn't good at all.

GT3 is a diffrent ball game in every aspect; The feel for speed is incredible; the handling of the cars is fantastic and tight; the handling of diffrent cars with similar horse power and acceleartion differs when it comes to curve techniques; not to mention the difference between front wheel cars and 4 wheel cars and so on.

Before GT3 I was nver interested in racers; I wanted to buy a FF X, and becasue the store didn't have it yet I went hesitantly for GT3; and it was one of the best purchases I ever made. I never played a game so often for a very long time.

It made me a racer gamer. :) Project Gotham 2 and Colin McRae 3 and 4 are good racers too; and then I discovered good racers for the DC: Metropolis Street Racer and Test Drive Le Mans are wothwhile playing. I was really surprised by the good gameplay of both games.

The license tests in GT3 are basically mini-games; I nver intended to do the career mode becasue I had the impression from reviews it is too complicated for a complete car-idiot like me; too realistic, boring, and complicated. How wrong they were. It is a simple racer polished to perfection.

After finsihing the arcade mode, I did everything in career mode. I beat every record (by two to five seconsds), collected every car, got gold medals for every license test. It is adrenaline pumping play at its best.

The game has incredibly rich game play. It is not only the best racer ever produced, it is one of the best videogames ever produced.

Are you guys sure it will be "only" $40?? Great. I'm waiting for GT4 since I finished GT3. :) I'm looking really forward for months now to two games: GT4 and Metroid Prime 2.

[lendelin]

Shit those visuals are amazing! But I would rather give up a little in the graphics department for the addition of smooth online gameplay. I'll get GT4 when it comes down to $20. I like the games but I'm with Flack, I wanna race. I'll only get GT4 because it looks so damn good.

The looks are not so important; what is more important is the fact that it looks brilliant and it plays as it looks!!! The gameplay is key, and GT delivers.

I don't know what it is about the "not racing"-stuff. IN GT3 you had immediate access to a high-powered Corvette!! ...and besides, to figure out the ideal curve techniques and curve lines in a Toyota Corolla is as difficult and entertaining as in a Formula One Racer. (which you get six of in career mode)

[Hovoc]

Hey, what the hell is the deal with all the car companies not allowing any damage to be shown on their precious car models in licensed racing games anyway? Like they never wreck? Like they won't be crushed beyond all recognition if you slam one into a wall at over 200mph? I think it's far more dangerous to sell games like this which are touted as the ultimate in racing realism, and yet there is no depiction of any damage whatsoever to the cars when they crash. This is why we hear about teenage street racers killing themselves in fatal high speed car crashes all the time, because these kids have been led to believe that if they do wipe out, they'll just be bounced around a little bit and then they'll be right back on the track, still in 1st place. It's stupid as hell, and there's an awful lot of kids who are just naive enough to actually believe that this really is the way that racing real cars really works in the real world too. They're actually being conditioned to believe that no matter how bad they wreck, it's really not that bad, and they'll still be OK.

I think the damn car companies need to get over themselves on this issue, and maybe they need to be sued for the wrongful deaths of some of these kids who play these games and then go out in their real cars and get killed because all these stupid car companies don't want anybody to see what will happen to their cars when they wreck in the real world. It's just retarded! Sure, everybody with an ounce of common sense knows that a real car will become an aluminum can in a high speed crash, but most of today's kids simply haven't been raised with an ounce of common sense, and all those little disclaimers at the beginning of the games aren't helping a damn bit either. All that really tells these kids is now they have something to prove too, that it won't happen to them because they are so skilled at the games. If I was more of an activist, I'd start lobbying for some new laws about this BS, and force these stupid car companies to let all the game makers show exactly what happens to their cars when they wreck, that just might help.




yeah and doom was 100% responsible for columbine


you cant, cant ,cant! blame street racing and street racing related deaths due to the GT series not having car damage. its rediculous. its like saying that pacman teaches kids that if they eat glowing (possibly radiactive???) pellets, then they can eat ghosts.

but ehy, on the flip side, if a kid kills himself from a car accident bc the cars in gt4 cant be damaged, then great, chalk up another for the darwin awards

[Oobgarm]

I refuse to believe that those are PS2 graphics. Those look like high res computer graphics to me. The PS2 is a pos nowadays, anyone played GTA 5? There is no way the game will look that good.

I believe it's running on a Dreamcast.

[Oobgarm]

Nevermind. Decided to make an actual topic. THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG.

[spider-man]

I heard from somewhere (I believe it was from the-magicbox), that in Gran Turismo 5 (for the ps3 I think), realistic car damage will be in.

[spider-man]

Here's the link: http://games.kikizo.com/news/200411/037.asp

[le geek]

The graphics are awesome and such, but I cannot stand Grand Turismo. It is the most boring racing game in existance.

AMEN. I'd take Pole Position any day. Sure, GT looks nicer, but I wanna race, not mess around with the angle of the wing of my car for hours.

There is something inherently fun in tweaking out your real ride (In my a case a black VW Beetle) with a 335 HP engine and seeing what happens...

I do like Enduro and Ridge Racer (among many many arcade racers) as well though :)

Cheers,
Ben

[ddockery]

You can't seriously be comparig Katamari Damacy's graphics t the shots shown here. KD looks nice, but it's all cartoonish and very unrealistic. I'm also very suspect of the PS2 putting out in game graphics like these pics show. If that's for real, developers have really been dropping the ball on the rest of the PS2 library.