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sabre2922
10-26-2004, 06:56 AM
wich current generation system will last the longest in YOUR opinion meaning software support from both first and third party companies?

DigitalSpace
10-26-2004, 07:05 AM
My pick is the PS2. The PSX had quite a lifespan, and Sony has even stated that they believe the PS2 can continue to sell until 2010.

zmweasel
10-26-2004, 07:13 AM
wich current generation system will last the longest in YOUR opinion meaning software support from both first and third party companies?

You're not seriously asking this, right? You're just seeing how many Nintendo fanbois-in-denial you can draw out of the woodwork, right?

-- Z.

Lemmy Kilmister
10-26-2004, 07:14 AM
Microsoft claims that their next console will come out sometime next year, so xbox is out. As far as nintendo and sony go though, who knows? Sony is still milking the playstation and nintendo is still rumored to be releasing their next system in 06. So It could be anyone's guess.

anagrama
10-26-2004, 08:16 AM
PS2. Duh.

sabre2922
10-26-2004, 08:59 AM
hmm i thought there would be at least SOME debate on this :hmm:

zmweasel
10-26-2004, 09:46 AM
hmm i thought there would be at least SOME debate on this :hmm:

The GameCube is on life support. The Xenon/Xbox 2 is coming shortly. The PS2 has sold more than twice as many hardware units as Xboxes and GameCubes combined, and Sony has already made clear its intent to support the PS2 well beyond the typical five-year lifespan, as it did with the PS1. What's to debate?

-- Z.

Flack
10-26-2004, 09:58 AM
hmm i thought there would be at least SOME debate on this :hmm:

The GameCube is on life support. The Xenon/Xbox 2 is coming shortly. The PS2 has sold more than twice as many hardware units as Xboxes and GameCubes combined, and Sony has already made clear its intent to support the PS2 well beyond the typical five-year lifespan, as it did with the PS1. What's to debate?

-- Z.

Not to mention the fact that, like the PS2, the PS3 will be backwards compatible. That will keep game companies deveoping for it for a long, long time.

DigitalSpace
10-26-2004, 09:58 AM
hmm i thought there would be at least SOME debate on this :hmm:

In my opinion, I think Microsoft and Nintendo are going to want to try to beat Sony to the punch on a new console, in hopes of taking the top spot and having an decent library in place and a strong user base installed when the PS3 is ready to launch. And Sony made it too easy for me not to pick the PS2, what with what I mentioned earlier about how they hope the PS2 will sell until 2010. I'm sure Sony will have the PS3 out a few years before that, and they'll employ the same tactics with the PS2 as they did with the PSX. And as Flack stated, backwards compatibilty will help a lot as it did with the PSX.

I don't see the Gamecube's lifespan going beyond that of the PS2, unless Nintendo makes their next console backwards compatible, and I highly doubt they'd do that. It's a safe guess that Nintendo will sell it as a budget system as they have done with their previous consoles, but this will only last for 1-2 years, and if Nintendo does release their next console in 2006 as someone stated, the last Gamecube release would be seen in 2007 or 2008 at the latest.

This wasn't a bad idea for a thread in the least, it's just that the answer is too obvious.

Off topic, who's the chick in your avatar?

morphx
10-26-2004, 10:15 AM
It doesn't really matter if Nintendo/Microsoft beat Sony to the punch with a new system/library. Sony's genious backwards compatablility allows them to have a huge collection the day the console is released. Thats why its so hard to beat sony, look at the thousands of games you can play on it.

Nez
10-26-2004, 10:56 AM
Ps2 just like the PSX it'll never go away, IE Fifa 2005.

Richter
10-26-2004, 11:52 AM
hmm i thought there would be at least SOME debate on this :hmm:...Off topic, who's the chick in your avatar?Natalie Portman from "The Professional"

The Manimal
10-26-2004, 04:43 PM
I voted PS2 and I don't think there's much to say otherwise. MADDEN/FIFA 2005 for PS1...crazy!

NintendoMan
10-26-2004, 04:51 PM
Microsoft claims that their next console will come out sometime next year, so xbox is out. As far as nintendo and sony go though, who knows? Sony is still milking the playstation and nintendo is still rumored to be releasing their next system in 06. So It could be anyone's guess.

NO, that doesn't mean XBOX is out. You have never heard OR didn't know that game companies still make games for a certain system when it's new system is out???? How long have you played games??

But no really, Nintendo has stated before that they plan on making GC games long after the "Evolution" is out. Which is really cool!!

Well, Sony already has a year head start on the latter systems. And they still make PS1 games. (But that is ONLY because they are compatible with PS2!!) I am pretty sure PS3 won't be compatible with any other games but PS3 games??? I think I heard that??
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MegaDrive20XX
10-26-2004, 04:52 PM
hmm i thought there would be at least SOME debate on this :hmm:...Off topic, who's the chick in your avatar?Natalie Portman from "The Professional"

the young 13 year old jail bait verison

NintendoMan
10-26-2004, 10:00 PM
the young 13 year old jail bait verison



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Fuyukaze
10-26-2004, 10:37 PM
I'd have to say.....The GBA. I'm sorry but I just dont see any of the systems surviving 5 or more years of use. I know the GBA isnt considered a console system, but I dont consider CD based systems to have a long life span as once the CD/GDR/DVD player goes out, the entire thing becomes at best spare parts.

imanerd0011
10-26-2004, 10:48 PM
Since the Playstation went for almost a decade , I gotta go with PS2

Lemmy Kilmister
10-26-2004, 11:13 PM
[quote=testament89]Microsoft claims that their next console will come out sometime next year, so xbox is out. As far as nintendo and sony go though, who knows? Sony is still milking the playstation and nintendo is still rumored to be releasing their next system in 06. So It could be anyone's guess.

NO, that doesn't mean XBOX is out. You have never heard OR didn't know that game companies still make games for a certain system when it's new system is out???? How long have you played games??

I didn't say that microsoft or other third parties would stop making games for the xbox, just that they would focus more on the xenon. This topic was about which current console do you think will have the longest lifespan, and seeing as how microsoft said it's new system sould be out around this time next year I'd say yes, that pretty much would count it out.

Half Japanese
10-26-2004, 11:23 PM
But no really, Nintendo has stated before that they plan on making GC games long after the "Evolution" is out. Which is really cool!!

I dunno. Given the current trickle of software, I predict a situation more akin to the period between the N64 and Gamecube.




Well, Sony already has a year head start on the latter systems. And they still make PS1 games. (But that is ONLY because they are compatible with PS2!!

Where's the logic in that? They aren't still putting the yearly sports games on the ps1 because it's compatible with the ps2. They put them there for the broke folks who haven't upgraded yet. There is no sense in buying a ps1 game for your ps2 when there is a superior ps2 version.

theoakwoody
10-26-2004, 11:34 PM
Am I the only person here that thinks backwards compatibility is totally overrated? People don't buy a new system because it has 1000's of games available for it already, they buy it for the new games. I'm talking about the majority of people and not collectors like the people who frequent this site. And the reason why they are still making Psone games isn't because the PS2 is backwards compatible, it's because alot of people still own psone. Do you know anyone who bought the psone version of madden 05 to play on their ps2?

It's as simple as this. Sony makes good business decisions, they know what their zombie flesh eating consumers want, and they don't make a lot of mistakes. They'll stay on top.

With all this being said I guess this is a parallel of when Nintendo was on top of the world. YOu had Sega and Atari and Nec trying to compete but Nintendo could do no wrong until they made the ultimate mistake. And that was relying on the good ole NES for way too long. They waited two years to bring out the Snes to compete with the Genesis and then waited too long to bring out their answer to the psx and the saturn. If Sony waits too long to bring out their next gen console they may suffer the same fate. I know everyone can point to the whole dreamcast debacle but Nintendo and Microsoft have much deeper pockets than Sega to battle the almighty Sony.

Oh I guess I'm way off topic so I'll end now. Sorry about that.

Lemmy Kilmister
10-26-2004, 11:34 PM
In my opinion, I think Microsoft and Nintendo are going to want to try to beat Sony to the punch on a new console.

I think that after seeing sega get destroyed in the console market that nintendo and microsoft would take a hint, but your mostly likely right. I just hope that it doesn't mark certen doom for nintendo.

Iron Draggon
10-26-2004, 11:46 PM
Nobody is ever gonna beat Sony now. Microsoft will eventually give up after years of nothing but losses to report, and Nintendo will only survive in the handheld market, if they survive at all. Sony is the only one making money. Microsoft is only surviving on the fat of their other divisions, and Nintendo is only surviving on the Gameboy, as they have been ever since it debuted. But now that Sony is entering the handheld market too, it's very doubtful that Nintendo will be able to survive in that market for very much longer either, because their virtual monopoly in the handheld market is expiring. Sony is taking over the world. Nothing can save us all now until Toshiba or some other Japanese company enters the market to compete with them.

classicb
10-26-2004, 11:51 PM
wich current generation system will last the longest in YOUR opinion meaning software support from both first and third party companies?

You're not seriously asking this, right? You're just seeing how many Nintendo fanbois-in-denial you can draw out of the woodwork, right?

-- Z.

LOL its true LOL

theoakwoody
10-27-2004, 12:00 AM
Video games have gotten so big that I think that 3 companies can coexist and all make money. Nintendo doesn't lose a lot of money on gamecube like people think(Yes that was not a fact, I'm guessing here). Microsoft knew coming into the console business that it would take a while to build up a user base. Back in the early 90's Nintendo and Sega coexisted and I think that the video game industry has grown especially in the console market. PC games are not as big as they use to be and so alot of game players are choosing the console as their entertainment medium. In my personal opinion Microsoft will get close to Sony and Nintendo will be happy remaining in 3rd place being a niche console company that makes great games for their hard core fans. I mean why is it that just because Sony has sold 80 million bajillion systems and Nintendo has only sold like 8 or 10 (guess???)that that automatically means Nintendo is losing money. Maybe they just aren't making as much money but does that mean it's not worth it for them to be in the console business?

Someone here please tell me how many consoles you have to sell to be considered a success?

One more question. Does anyone really know if Microsoft is losing money on the XBox? I could buy all the components for an Xbox pretty cheap and I'm sure Microsoft just might buy their components in bulk. So yeah are they really taking a hit on these things?

tholly
10-27-2004, 12:03 AM
PS2...just based on the history of the PSX