View Full Version : Which games have the hardest first level?
kai123
10-26-2004, 02:06 PM
Which game do you think has the hardest first level? I am only talking about the very first level. Games that let you select which level to starts on as in the Megaman games do not count.
MegaDrive20XX
10-26-2004, 02:09 PM
Viewtiful Joe- Bruce the Shark's stage...I hated that level..and I hate that damn boss
downfall
10-26-2004, 02:18 PM
Again I say:
Dragon's Lair - NES
It took me forever just to get past the first screen, much less anything else.
ScottK
10-26-2004, 02:25 PM
I remember having problems in the beginning of Illusion of Gaia- SNES. I think it was the first level boss that was the hardest part of the game, but then again it's been 10 yrs or so since I last played it.
Barbarianoutkast85
10-26-2004, 02:38 PM
When I first played Illusion of Gaia like 8 year ago I remember having a hard time with the first boss. Back then apparently I didnt belive in the Herbs or something I dont know. But I can beat the game now no problem
SoulBlazer
10-26-2004, 02:43 PM
I thought Gradius V had a damn hard Level 1. Then I go to 2. x_x
autobotracing
10-26-2004, 02:56 PM
level one of Mystery of comvoy for the famicom was a pain in my ass.
I think thats the ONLY Transformers cart game ever.
Balloon Fight
10-26-2004, 02:57 PM
Almost every Gradius game (I still haven't played III), and Space Ace/Dragon's Lair (SNES/NES). Man did space Ace piss me off. Seeing that puny dexter get zapped by the laser 5908349068 times in a row is irritating.
gwaine
10-26-2004, 03:18 PM
Target Earth for the Genesis...though I heard the sequel on the Saturn is even harder.
ddockery
10-26-2004, 03:20 PM
Kid Icarus... It took me forever to pass the first area, but after that the game bot much better. It was those damn platforms you could fall through... that kind of crap kills me every time.
TheSmirk
10-26-2004, 03:24 PM
level one of Mystery of comvoy for the famicom was a pain in my ass.
I think thats the ONLY Transformers cart game ever.
The Transformers famicom game? Where you have mountains in the background and you are optimus prime? Starscream and the gang bomb you? That game sucks its so hard, you die within 3 seconds if you are not VERY,VERY careful
So the actual name is mystery of convoy?
Blackjax
10-26-2004, 03:27 PM
This is no contest
SINISTAR
I only killed my first Sinistar a few years ago. In the middle of laughing and celebrating Sinistar finally going down
"huh? what? LEVEL 2?!?!?!? NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"
Querjek
10-26-2004, 03:35 PM
I tried to play Out of This World (SNES) and could not figure out what the hell was going on. Does that count?
Raccoon Lad
10-26-2004, 03:48 PM
Driver, which forces you to become highly skilled at playing the game before you actually get to go out and play it.
NESaholic
10-26-2004, 03:54 PM
I had a big problem with the first level of Ghosts and Goblins for the Nes, the first level boss used to kill me over and over again.After giving it some time it's not that all to hard anymore.
Crush Crawfish
10-26-2004, 03:57 PM
Viewtiful Joe- Bruce the Shark's stage...I hated that level..and I hate that damn boss
That's level 3, not level one.
anyway, the 1st level of Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts must've taken me at least 40 tries before I got it.
imanerd0011
10-26-2004, 03:58 PM
I've always thought that the first level of Double Dragon 3 is rediciously hard.
slip81
10-26-2004, 04:13 PM
Driver, which forces you to become highly skilled at playing the game before you actually get to go out and play it.
I can vouch for that. That game pissed me off with it's difficulty so back to EB it went.
I also have trouble with Super R-Type and Strikers 1945. I just suck at shooters, but I love them, isn't it ironic?
Oh and Pac-Man and Space Invaders
SkiDragon
10-26-2004, 04:23 PM
The Arcade version of Gradius 3 is much harder than Gradius V. First level at least, because I couldn't get much father on Gradius 3.
MegaDrive20XX
10-26-2004, 04:26 PM
Viewtiful Joe- Bruce the Shark's stage...I hated that level..and I hate that damn boss
That's level 3, not level one.
anyway, the 1st level of Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts must've taken me at least 40 tries before I got it.
I didnt say it was level one...I just called it "Bruce the Shark's Stage"
autobotracing
10-26-2004, 04:40 PM
level one of Mystery of comvoy for the famicom was a pain in my ass.
I think thats the ONLY Transformers cart game ever.
The Transformers famicom game? Where you have mountains in the background and you are optimus prime? Starscream and the gang bomb you? That game sucks its so hard, you die within 3 seconds if you are not VERY,VERY careful
So the actual name is mystery of convoy?
yeah thats the game but it is spelled COMVOY yes with a M
Gzilla23
10-26-2004, 04:42 PM
metal gear on nes had me pulling my hair out in the beginning.
Dahne
10-26-2004, 04:44 PM
Brave Fencer Musashi's first boss, the steam knight, was one of the hardest in the game.
Cmosfm
10-26-2004, 05:33 PM
Driver, which forces you to become highly skilled at playing the game before you actually get to go out and play it.
This is the only game, ever, that I gave up on the game for good without passing the tutorial. And I spent at least an hour trying!
FantasiaWHT
10-26-2004, 05:38 PM
For some reason, Metal Gear Solid on the PSX is just completely beyond me... I never made it past the first room of guards =/
Nesmaster
10-26-2004, 05:47 PM
Driver, which forces you to become highly skilled at playing the game before you actually get to go out and play it.
yeah, that was hella annoying. but once you get passed that theres a good game to be played :)
Mr Mort
10-26-2004, 09:03 PM
My vote goes to Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox. You're still learning how to play the game and you get mobbed by ninjas, not to mention Burai took me about an hour to kill the first time I got to him.
Oh, and whoever mention Double Dragon 3 is right on point. That was ridiculously hard.
XxMe2NiKxX
10-26-2004, 09:05 PM
Wind Waker. Stealth is a bitch.
I tried to play Out of This World (SNES) and could not figure out what the hell was going on. Does that count?
That's because Out of this World is a crappy game.
klausien
10-26-2004, 09:18 PM
Darius. Plain and simple.
Iron Draggon
10-26-2004, 09:34 PM
Target Earth for the Genesis...though I heard the sequel on the Saturn is even harder.
Yeah, I can vouch for that. The first mission of Assault Suit Leynos 2 is very hard until you learn how to master it, but after that it becomes a cakewalk.
delafro
10-26-2004, 10:19 PM
There's a PC Engine shooter called Formation Armed F or something along those lines... still haven't beat the first level. The boss gets you every time because the boss is really close to you and the hit detection is really strict, if a bullet's even in your vicinity, it's death.
Berserker
10-26-2004, 10:37 PM
Me, 1985: Popeye for Colecovision, only got past the first level once. It seems much easier now, though.
Me, 1990: Double Dragon III. If that game were a person, I would've made my best attempts as a 7 year-old to kick it's ass, possibly employing the services of a whiffle bat... filled with cement.
Haven't really been as frustrated with games since then, and if so, usually not on the first level. Oh yeah, reason for including "Me" at the beginning of both of those...
My Neighbors, 1992: Dragon Warrior. Now, I know this game doesn't really have a "first level", but I let them borrow the game and, after a few days, they returned it saying "We couldn't figure out how to get out of the first room."
These kids were real bad, and in hindsight, I'm not sure why I let them borrow the game in the first place. Or maybe I'm just still pissed because they took my copy of Super Mario Bros 2 with them when they moved...
That's alright though, I'm sure at least one of them are off somewhere right now playing a new game, "Find the Good Vein!"...
I kid.
Adventures of Bayou Billy. By the time I get done with the first stage, I don't stand a chance at the rest of the game!
Berserker
10-26-2004, 10:45 PM
Jesus, how could I forget that game. Yes, Bayou Billy. The first level of that game pissed me off to no end. I think I once got far enough through it to pick up a gun once, yay!
charitycasegreg
10-26-2004, 10:58 PM
Again I say:
Dragon's Lair - NES
It took me forever just to get past the first screen, much less anything else.
I never got past that damn bridge. I shut it off cause it seemed really gay. Ghosts and goblins on snes is hard to past the first level too.
rbudrick
10-27-2004, 11:18 AM
Yes, Bayou Billy....after that, it's still tough,but things start to fall together. But that first level is waaaay too hard.
Wrath of the Black Manta had the hardest boss in the whole game in the first level. Tiny was a bitch.
Gradius 2's first level kicks the shit out of Gradius 3 or V's first level any day in terms of difficulty.
-Rob
Mr.Faxanadu
10-27-2004, 11:56 AM
I had a big problem with the first level of Ghosts and Goblins for the Nes, the first level boss used to kill me over and over again.After giving it some time it's not that all to hard anymore.
I second that
The Manimal
10-27-2004, 12:21 PM
Double Dragon 3
most Gradius games
Needle
10-27-2004, 12:47 PM
Kid Icarus... It took me forever to pass the first area, but after that the game bot much better. It was those damn platforms you could fall through... that kind of crap kills me every time.
This was the first game that I thought of too. All of the levels have about the same difficulty, however you build your energy bar based on points scored. So the first stage of Kid Icarus is ridiculously hard because your energy bar is only one segment long! I still say it's one of the most backwards games ever made - it actually gets easier as you progress.
...still love the game though. :D
unbroken
10-27-2004, 04:09 PM
first level in the last action hero for snes.
im sorry but NOTHING!!!!!!!! can be harder than this game, its just impossible. no one will ever beat this level, i put money on it.
FantasiaWHT
10-27-2004, 04:13 PM
Can't believe I didn't think of this before...
Phantasy Star (SMS)
Ok, maybe not a "level" in the traditional term, but step outside of the VERY FIRST TOWN and there is only one battle (out of a possible 4 or 5 different possibilties) that you can even win at level 1... you need to save, and if you hit the wrong fight, restart... then if you DO get the "right" fight, you need to go back to town and heal immediately and repeat the process again until you hit level 2 heh.
Quite a contrast from (most) modern RPGs where you need to be a complete moron to even come close to dying and even a "challenging" boss fight is simply long, not dangerous.
thehistorian
10-27-2004, 04:48 PM
Wind Waker. Stealth is a bitch.
I tried to play Out of This World (SNES) and could not figure out what the hell was going on. Does that count?
That's because Out of this World is a crappy game.
Hey hey... This is actually a rather good game... Another World/Out of this World remains one of my favorite games on the SNES.
My vote Super Ghosts and goblins on the SNES.
qbertandernie
10-27-2004, 05:10 PM
ikaruga kicks my ass...
Cmosfm
10-27-2004, 05:19 PM
Again I say:
Dragon's Lair - NES
It took me forever just to get past the first screen, much less anything else.
I never got past that damn bridge. I shut it off cause it seemed really gay.
Hmmm, Billy always seemed like a rough brute man to me, a ladies man all the way. Who knew that he really liked hot man sex. :roll:
squirrelnut
10-27-2004, 05:45 PM
Driver, which forces you to become highly skilled at playing the game before you actually get to go out and play it.
i second that! :angry:
rbudrick
10-27-2004, 05:52 PM
This was the first game that I thought of too. All of the levels have about the same difficulty, however you build your energy bar based on points scored. So the first stage of Kid Icarus is ridiculously hard because your energy bar is only one segment long! I still say it's one of the most backwards games ever made - it actually gets easier as you progress.
...still love the game though.
Actually, World 2 is pretty damn hard in comparison. World 2-3 especially...that level is long and really hard, uh huh huh huh.
World 1-3 I remember as pretty tough too. World 3 and 4 are really easy tho...the dungeons all have a good challenge too. But world 2-3...damn...hardest level in the game.
-Rob
SegaAges
10-27-2004, 06:12 PM
LOTR: Return of the King.
that damn 1st level pissed me off. many people are good at the game, but I didn't like the fact that they put all these technical things in a hack n slash game, because that it what it is. then they made a sequel that was harder.
FlufflePuff
10-28-2004, 09:33 PM
Can't believe I didn't think of this before...
Phantasy Star (SMS)
Ok, maybe not a "level" in the traditional term, but step outside of the VERY FIRST TOWN and there is only one battle (out of a possible 4 or 5 different possibilties) that you can even win at level 1... you need to save, and if you hit the wrong fight, restart... then if you DO get the "right" fight, you need to go back to town and heal immediately and repeat the process again until you hit level 2 heh.
Quite a contrast from (most) modern RPGs where you need to be a complete moron to even come close to dying and even a "challenging" boss fight is simply long, not dangerous.
And that is why old school RPGS are so much better than modern ones. *rant*
Anyway, Mystery Quest for the NES had an impossible first level for me. Literally. I went into some building with giant praying mantisii and got stuck. Couldn't get out, couldn't go forward. Damn you Squaresoft!