I hate snipers

[Chainsaw_Charlie]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8140489253&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT

put in a bid of $6 with 17 mins left
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[charitycasegreg]

should have put on a bid of $6.01 with 3 seconds left. :D YOur going to have to start sniping if you REALLY want to win the auction for cheaper, or even win it a t all. I do it, and it usually helps me get the item for cheape then if I started a bidding war, plus it insures the only people that will outbid me are ones who havave already bid, or who are also sniping and put their bids higher then what I would pay.

[anagrama]

Then become one.
Frankly, I can't understand why anyone would place a bid before the last minute or so (unless you can't be in front of the computer, but that's what sniping services are for).
If you don't, all you are doing is advertising your interest in the item and inviting people to out-bid you.

[Oobgarm]

And you didn't bother to go back and check it with only a couple of minutes to go? I most certainly would have.

If $6 is all you were willing to pay, then why complain? If you were willing to have paid more, then you should have bid higher.

Simple as that.

[jaybird]

I've gotten so used to it that it doesn't even bother me anymore.

If I really want something for myself - I snipe it. If I get sniped...oh well.

[VGfan]

Is there really such a big difference between bidding with 17 minutes left & with 6 minutes left? Sounds to me like you are just a bad loser. What is there to be angry about? He obviously wanted to pay more for the item than you did (hence the higher bid).

[Rogmeister]

Most of us who use Ebay fairly regularly have done it whether we like to admit it or not. For me, I will usually a few dollars over the minimum bid and then try to be there towards the end to see how it's going. I also tend to try to find auctions that no one has bid on yet to give me a higher chance of winning the item. More often than not, I get what I want.

[esquire]

The guy who beat you didn't snipe at all. First off, his bids were placed with 6 minutes to go in the auction. Sniping is when there seconds left in the auction.

Second, he put in two bids, thirteen seconds apart. One bid under your proxy, and other over your proxy. How is this sniping? He placed a bid, you were still the high bidder, so he put in a second bid and won. Plain and simple.

If it were a snipe, not only would it have been in the last few seconds, but it would have been one bid (usually at a high proxy to ensure victory).

This is a snipe. One bid, with 8 seconds to go. Check the bidding history...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8139787767&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

[charitycasegreg]

The guy who beat you didn't snipe at all. First off, his bids were placed with 6 minutes to go in the auction. Sniping is when there seconds left in the auction.

Second, he put in two bids, thirteen seconds apart. One bid under your proxy, and other over your proxy. How is this sniping? He placed a bid, you were still the high bidder, so he put in a second bid and won. Plain and simple.

If it were a snipe, not only would it have been in the last few seconds, but it would have been one bid (usually at a high proxy to ensure victory).

This is a snipe. One bid, with 8 seconds to go. Check the bidding history...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8139787767&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

show off LOL

[Promophile]

The guy who beat you didn't snipe at all. First off, his bids were placed with 6 minutes to go in the auction. Sniping is when there seconds left in the auction.

Second, he put in two bids, thirteen seconds apart. One bid under your proxy, and other over your proxy. How is this sniping? He placed a bid, you were still the high bidder, so he put in a second bid and won. Plain and simple.

If it were a snipe, not only would it have been in the last few seconds, but it would have been one bid (usually at a high proxy to ensure victory).

This is a snipe. One bid, with 8 seconds to go. Check the bidding history...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8139787767&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

Actually my program snipes 3 seconds before the end ;) .

[SegaAges]

well if i want something bad, i will just be there to snipe it.

the book i won, i got it cheap because i highly doubt there are too many people trying to get their hands on the international edition (cheap version) of a textbook for school

[NE146]

And remember.. just because you snipe, does NOT mean you'll win. But it helps. ;)

[TRM]

I like sniping when it is people bidding on my auctions.

[esquire]

Actually my program snipes 3 seconds before the end ;) .

The program I use can go to one second if you really want to, but then it becomes an issue of feasibility, with lag and all. I usually snipe with 6 or more seconds left, just to be safe. I've been burned before because of lag or ebay's servers.

[-hellvin-]

Next time, wait until about 30 seconds and enter a max bid of what you want to pay, not the cheapest possible bid. That was it will ensure you win up to a certain point.

[kevincure]

On "common price" auctions (that is, non-rare items where you might "give away" the value by bidding early because you have expert knowledge, as is the case with many people that post here), sniping can work.

Other than that, there is absolutely no reason not to bid your true value anytime during the auction and then let the auction play it out. You valued the item at 6 bucks, he bid higher, you lost. If you were willing to pay 7, then bid 7. That's the benefit of what's called first-bidder, second-price: Whether you bid 100 or 7, if the 2nd bidder only bids 6, you get the item for 6.01.

[jonjandran]

Other than that, there is absolutely no reason not to bid your true value anytime during the auction and then let the auction play it out. You valued the item at 6 bucks, he bid higher, you lost. If you were willing to pay 7, then bid 7. That's the benefit of what's called first-bidder, second-price: Whether you bid 100 or 7, if the 2nd bidder only bids 6, you get the item for 6.01.

The only problem with that theory is you forgot the stupidity factor of most Ebay bidders.

A lot of times these morons will just keep bidding on an item until they beat your bid. I've seen it happen hundreds of times. They bid a dollar , then another, then another , and so on until they get the highbid.
So if you wait till then end and snipe then you don't have to worry about some idiot bidding more than what you're willing to pay just because they get mad and HAVE to be the high bidder.

[Promophile]

Other than that, there is absolutely no reason not to bid your true value anytime during the auction and then let the auction play it out. You valued the item at 6 bucks, he bid higher, you lost. If you were willing to pay 7, then bid 7. That's the benefit of what's called first-bidder, second-price: Whether you bid 100 or 7, if the 2nd bidder only bids 6, you get the item for 6.01.

The only problem with that theory is you forgot the stupidity factor of most Ebay bidders.

A lot of times these morons will just keep bidding on an item until they beat your bid. I've seen it happen hundreds of times. They bid a dollar , then another, then another , and so on until they get the highbid.
So if you wait till then end and snipe then you don't have to worry about some idiot bidding more than what you're willing to pay just because they get mad and HAVE to be the high bidder.

I second that. Take for instance This rare nintendo certificate I lost. It was before I sniped, and I entered a bid with about 18 seconds left. Well it seems someone was watching very closely, because Within seconds he had bid 3 times and had beaten me. I learned my lesson then.

[Chainsaw_Charlie]

Look I'm a busy dude and i had to leave to go to work so in this case I was sniped/outbid
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[anagrama]

As others have said, you weren't sniped - someone was just willing to pay more. It happens.

[Iron Draggon]

Well I had my first sniping failure today. I'm sitting there hitting refresh over and over again during the last 5 minutes of the auction. With 3 minutes left to go, I hit refresh, and it takes a while to do so, but it finally displays 2 1/2 minutes left to go now. I know that it's actually less than that by now, so I click on place bid. It takes forever to changes pages, and takes me to the damn sign in page! Frantically I type in my user name and password. It takes forever to take me to the page where I enter my bid. I frantically type it in, click submit, and it takes forever to change the pages again. When it finally does, it rejects my bid because the auction has already ended by now! So a freaking noob with zero feedback won the item for the opening bid! The only reason why I didn't place my bid with 5 minutes left to go was because I knew that damn noob would place a zillion bids within that time, trying to outbid me. It wouldn't have worked, because I always nuke it when I snipe, but I was trying to keep my cost down. Well I kept it down alright, because now I'm not even gonna get to buy the item at all! And I'm still pissed off!

[anagrama]

When I'm sniping, I always have a second window open at the 'Confirm Bid' page. Just hit the button and the bid goes in.
I try to leave it until the last 10 seconds, but if it takes longer than usual to refresh before that you can be pretty sure someone else is bidding, so I'll place the bid instantly to avoid missing the end while it's reloading.

[Chainsaw_Charlie]

Is there really such a big difference between bidding with 17 minutes left & with 6 minutes left? Sounds to me like you are just a bad loser. What is there to be angry about? He obviously wanted to pay more for the item than you did (hence the higher bid).

I have had auctions that i have won in the past with more than 10 mins left and i was pissed that i lost
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[l3el]

I remember the first time i got sniped, I was trying to get a rare japanese camera. Man, thought I was about to cry. *SIGH* I'll never find it again.

[Iron Draggon]

When I'm sniping, I always have a second window open at the 'Confirm Bid' page. Just hit the button and the bid goes in.
I try to leave it until the last 10 seconds, but if it takes longer than usual to refresh before that you can be pretty sure someone else is bidding, so I'll place the bid instantly to avoid missing the end while it's reloading.

That's a good idea, I may have to start doing that. Normally I never have a problem with it the way that I did it, but for some strange reason my PC was taking forever to refresh the pages that day. And I am still pissed off about it!


I remember the first time i got sniped, I was trying to get a rare japanese camera. Man, thought I was about to cry. *SIGH* I'll never find it again.

The first time that I got sniped, I ended up getting the item anyway. Boy was I clueless back then. I wrote the seller crying about how if I had known that I was gonna get outbid by only $.50 then I would've gladly raised my maximum bid, but I was using the proxy system back in those days, totally oblivious to the fine art of sniping. Anyhow, so I whined and whined about missing out on that silly Hot Wheels car, and asked the seller to please sell it to me instead, if the other guy didn't pay for it, and let me know if he had another one or ever got another one in the same condition. It was a pretty old one, and I had been watching them for a while, that model just didn't show up in mint condition very often, but the one he had was near perfect.

Well, I had won two other cars from that guy, so I sent him the money for those, and apparently what happened was I spent so much time whining about the car that I lost that he accidentally sent it to me! When I got my package, one of the cars that I had won wasn't in it, but the other one was, and so was the car that I lost! So I almost fainted at my good fortune and then had a long debate with my conscience over it. Finally, I sent the guy an email and said hey, I dunno what happened, but one of the cars I won wasn't in my package! I kept my mouth shut about what was there in it's place though. I wasn't sure if he had felt sorry for me and let me have it on purpose or not, but I don't think he did, I think he just put it in there by mistake. So he apologizes all over himself and says he'll send me the other car right away. Now I'm feeling kinda bad, but I still kept my mouth shut.

So then I start thinking, this guy is too cool, and that other buyer is gonna be pissed and giving him hell when he can't find what happened to the car he won. So I write back to the guy and place a huge order for a ton of other cars from him, and say just throw that other car you still owe me in the box with all these others, since you're gonna have to send me another package anyway, and then that way you won't have to eat the cost of the shipping on it. But I still kept my mouth shut about that other car he sent.

Yeah, I know, how evil can I be to just keep my mouth shut about a seller making a mistake like that, knowing that it's gonna get him in all kinds of trouble with some other buyer, and how would I feel if I had won that car myself and then he had to explain to me that he lost it somehow and he didn't know what happened to it? Hell yeah I would've been pissed, but then I was pissed about getting sniped too, because I was still a total noob and had no idea what really happened to me or how to snipe stuff myself.

So I just decided you know what? That other buyer was just some lowly sniper, pouncing on stuff at the last second that didn't rightfully belong to him, because he was bidding so late that the person who had been the high bidder for days didn't even have a chance to place another bid against him. And since fate had obviously intended for me to have that car anyway, it just seemed like I was meant to have it no matter what and I should just keep my mouth shut about it rather than looking a gift horse in the mouth.

I wanted that car way worse than the sniper could possibly have wanted it anyway, or else he would've given me a chance to bid against him after he placed his bid, but he was just a pussy, going around stealing other people's stuff at the last second, instead of playing fair like everyone else who had been bidding on it for a week. That's what I decided, so even though I'm just a lowly sniper now myself, I still think that I deserved that car and I was obviously meant to have it. Otherwise, how else would I have gotten it?

Yes, I still feel sorry for the seller, and even the sniper too, but I'm the kind of person who believes that when fate helps you out like that, you just be happy about it and be grateful that you got what you wanted after all. Let some other moralistic sissy fall all over themselves to write to the seller and inform him of his mistake. I was tempted to do that, just to see if he would say that he did it on purpose, but I knew better. It seemed like maybe he did do it on purpose, since he left out one of the cars that I did win, but that's why I ordered a bunch more stuff from him. I figured that if I was gonna be getting that car for free, then the least I could do would be to buy a bunch of other stuff from him. Besides, why make him eat the cost of shipping that other car to me on top of that? At least I did try to balance it all out. So that's my best sniping story, sometimes you still get it anyway, and even for free! Just whine about it to the seller alot after you lose, and hope that he's scatterbrained enough to get confused by all your whining!

[stuffedmonkey]

Well, I had won two other cars from that guy, so I sent him the money for those, and apparently what happened was I spent so much time whining about the car that I lost that he accidentally sent it to me! When I got my package, one of the cars that I had won wasn't in it, but the other one was, and so was the car that I lost! So I almost fainted at my good fortune and then had a long debate with my conscience over it. Finally, I sent the guy an email and said hey, I dunno what happened, but one of the cars I won wasn't in my package! I kept my mouth shut about what was there in it's place though. I wasn't sure if he had felt sorry for me and let me have it on purpose or not, but I don't think he did, I think he just put it in there by mistake. So he apologizes all over himself and says he'll send me the other car right away. Now I'm feeling kinda bad, but I still kept my mouth shut.

So I just decided you know what? That other buyer was just some lowly sniper, pouncing on stuff at the last second that didn't rightfully belong to him, because he was bidding so late that the person who had been the high bidder for days didn't even have a chance to place another bid against him. And since fate had obviously intended for me to have that car anyway, it just seemed like I was meant to have it no matter what and I should just keep my mouth shut about it rather than looking a gift horse in the mouth.

I wanted that car way worse than the sniper could possibly have wanted it anyway, or else he would've given me a chance to bid against him after he placed his bid, but he was just a pussy, going around stealing other people's stuff at the last second, instead of playing fair like everyone else who had been bidding on it for a week. That's what I decided, so even though I'm just a lowly sniper now myself, I still think that I deserved that car and I was obviously meant to have it. Otherwise, how else would I have gotten it?




Wow. So you freely admit you are a whiner and a thief, but you think fate just magically blesses you, and someone who outbids you in an ebay auction is a pussy?

[Iron Draggon]

Well that was my reasoning at the time, yes. But that was several years ago, when I was still a total noob on ebay. I don't go around whining to sellers anymore, but then I don't have to either, because I learned how to snipe like all the other pussies. So I'm a much wiser and more educated thief now. BTW, fate DOES magically bless me all the time, in handly little ways like that.

LOL HEHEHE LOL