PSP = R.I.P. DS + GBA?

[Nick]

Now that we know the PSP is gonna ship in December for $185 in Japan who do you think is going to win as far as sales and overall player fun factor ratings? Knowing the PSP has the graphics capabilities slighty better then PS2 and much better than the DS...larger media for games than the DS...etc.

Believe me I'm more on Nintendo's side in this war. I have been a fan of Nintendo's handheld work and don't even own a PS or PS2 (At the moment). I just think that the DS doesn't have the hardware capabilities and even the software at this point to keep up. The only games I was truly interested in to this point for the DS were, Castlevania (which is going to be eventually released for the PSP), Ridge Racer (which is going to be PSP..obvioulsy better looking), Dynasty Warriors (which is PSP..), and Mario 64X4 (One solid game..thus far, in my eyes)..

What do you all think!? Am I the only one that is slowly seeing this? O_O

I mean..the price is no longer an issue, $40 more..who cares..

[ianoid]

No vote. I think the market will be splitt, with more going to Nintendo, but a bruising loss of market share.

I think that Sony will get more ground if it can get some GTA: PSP or Baldur's Gate: PSP or other major gold sellers on the console.

I personally have no urge to go DS (okay, aside from Mr. Driller), and I'm very excited about PSP. Old man, bad eyes, big screen.

[tholly]

im kinda partial to nintendo, so i voted no

but, i will be picking up a DS and a PSP ... DS is an xmas gift and the PSP ill buy for myself when it comes out in the US...is there an offical US release date yet?

[Nick]

hmm thats a good question..

As far as I know the PSP is gonna be released early 2005. So DS will have a few months head start.

[Sibs]

I chose DS. Can't wait for Super Mario 64x4, Super Mario Bros. NEW, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Final Fantasy III.

[tholly]

hmm thats a good question..

As far as I know the PSP is gonna be released early 2005. So DS will have a few months head start.


well, there goes that for an xmas gift...my girlfriend said she would get me a system, but it wont be out, so it looks like im buying that for myself

[le geek]

No vote. I think the market will be splitt, with more going to Nintendo, but a bruising loss of market share.

I think that Sony will get more ground if it can get some GTA: PSP or Baldur's Gate: PSP or other major gold sellers on the console.

Ditto on the above :)

as far as which one I'm interested in its DS for now...

Nintendogs and Feel the Magic look very cool...

Cheers,
Ben

[ubersaurus]

I don't know, I'm just getting that whole "game gear" vibe from the PSP. It'll do alright, but the DS will probably beat it, if not so much the price, then on the battery life. Battery life is a very important part of a handheld, and unless it's long enough, people aren't gonna put much time into it.

[Nick]

Solid point.

The only issue I have with the PSP is the battery life. 4-6 hours is what I have read and it is significantly lower then the DS. I would obviously prefer more game play between juicen' back up but I don't think that will sway my buying decision. Just look at what that PSP can do. :-P

[Ernster]

Look, we all know (or should know) DS will be better and 90% of PSP games will such just like the PS1 and PS2 libray does, but who knows if DS will actually do well, after all most gamers these days are brainless casual idiots and cant relise a good game if someone shoved one up there ass.

[kai123]

Look, we all know (or should know) DS will be better and 90% of PSP games will such just like the PS1 and PS2 libray does, but who knows if DS will actually do well, after all most gamers these days are brainless casual idiots and cant relise a good game if someone shoved one up there ass.

The DS games look nothing like N64 games. They are more like GC graphics. :roll:


DS has a weak launch and is filled with ports. Which was one of the complaints I have heard about the PSP. x_x Besides they aren't launching with a title that fully exploits the "innovative" two screen and touch screen capabilities. Which is disappointing.

[Jive3D]

Okay we have the price, that battery life and the launch line up. The PSP is simply going to being home-style graphics to a portable market. Now, when home consoles caught up with the arcade machine graphics, that was a big deal, no more endless quarters or stepping in gum at the arcade, a lot of people stopped going to arcades b/c that had that same experience at home, in a nice environment. I don’t think that the handhelds catching up graphically will inspire anything fantastic - that is - because the PSP is doing that alone, just good graphics. But really, there's no way that I'm going to play Silent Hill on a handheld and be scared. Most games are better played at home on a TV, and Sony seems to just be ignoring that. Nintendo on the other hand has an ace up their sleeve; I really believe that the wifi & wireless connectivity are going to be the meat of the system. They are STILL @_@ being hush-hush about it, but I really think that whatever the extent is of the wireless gaming will be awesome. I like their approach, playing in a new way. I want to play my home consoles at home, and I want to visit my friends Animal Crossing DS village while I'm on the bus to work.

But both launch lineups really do suck. I only have Mario64DS pre-ordered with my DS. Only time can tell.

oh and I LOVED the Game&Watch games when I was a kid, those things were my bread and butter for a while, especially the dual screen versions: Gold Cliff, Zelda & Mickey's Fire Fighters.

I like the analogy used at Nintendo's DS summit. Remember the first time that you got the Raccoon Tail? That feeling is what the DS is going to facilitate

[omnedon]

PSP looks cool, but I too am getting a Game Gear Vibe from it.

Similarities:

Both have/had superior graphics to the competition.
Both have/had other entertainment options inside (GG had TV attachment, PSP has Umedia movies).
Both have/had short battery life (and is that PSP batt pack external?!? Like the Nomad?).
Both have/had solid franchises and libraries to draw from.
Both were more expensive than their rival.

IMO battery life and price alone were the largest factors that killed the GG and the Lynx. The PSP does not have the strongest footing on either of those points.

I'm no Fanboy, and frankly don't care who wins. The PSP looks really cool (so does the DS), but the above similarities make me wonder if those similar factors will result in the same way it did for the Game Gear. SEGA was a force to be reckoned with when the GG came out, and seemed infallible then. Big brand recognition and strong game linbrary wasn't enough to trump the GB's green screen and long battery life.

[BigGeorgeJohnson]

The PSP gets my vote. I like the single larger screen, the storage capacity of the UMD and the design. And Sony has always had huge 3rd party support and I don't think that will change on this system. Not to say that Nintendo doesn't have strong 3rd party support. I don't like the dual screens or the stylus idea, I wish they would have made 1 larger screen. But thats just my opinion. I do hear that Advance Wars and Vandal Hearts are making an appearance on the DS though, So that may change my decision. Also 4 to 6 Hours of battery life is fine IMO.

[thegreatescape]

The DS games look nothing like N64 games. They are more like GC graphics. :roll:

DS graphics = N64 minus the vaseline and with some AA. Mario 64DS and the DS Ridge racer are both ports of the n64 games (with some added stuff). The more screenshots i see the more i get the feeling that the majority of DS games wont use the second screen for anything really innovative, and most 3rd party games will probably just use it for a map/steering wheel/alternate view screen. Whether that is enough to put the DS on top is beyond what my gamegear lovin ass can guestimate.

[Habeeb Hamusta]

Ok. Where in the hell does it say the PSP has better graphics than a PS2. Sorry but I don't believe that. The DS is going to be much more fun and have a great selection of games. Nintendo will conquer with this, as they always do with handheld systems.

[kai123]

I am still not convinced that the DS is going to bring anything innovative to the table. What exactly are they doing that is so innovative? Or has everyone bought the hype?

Also the PSP has WiFi so it can do anything the DS can on that front.

[NintendoMan]

I personally don't think that the PSP will beat out the DS at all! The PSP does look like a VERY COOL system, but it won't have the same effect that the PS2 has on the GC, sales wise I mean.

Nintendo OWNS the handheld market! Sony will have some pretty good games, but the same 25 people I know that have PS2's, DON'T give a shit about the PSP or handheld gaming in general.

What I mean is that ALL those casual gamers that have PS2's won't be buying a PSP.
At the very best, the PSP will take half the share of the handheld market away, but no more. That is at the very best.

[NintendoMan]

I am still not convinced that the DS is going to bring anything innovative to the table. What exactly are they doing that is so innovative? Or has everyone bought the hype?

Also the PSP has WiFi so it can do anything the DS can on that front.

Well, I don't know where the hell you got the word or idea that Nintendo specifically said "Every game on the DS is going to be brand new and innovative".
I mean look at all the damn ports that are suppossed to come out on the PSP.

To me, even if one game didn't come out using the TouchScreen I wouldn't really care. Just having that extra screen to place all of the extra junk on is good enough for me. (I mean don't get me wrong, if a cool game comes out using the stylus, well then HELL YEAH)

But even if it didn't use the extra screen, then the DS would have the exact gameplay as the PSP, RIGHT??

[Habeeb Hamusta]

Well, I don't know where the hell you got the word or idea that Nintendo specifically said "Every game on the DS is going to be brand new and innovative".
I mean look at all the damn ports that are suppossed to come out on the PSP.

To me, even if one game didn't come out using the TouchScreen I wouldn't really care. Just having that extra screen to place all of the extra junk on is good enough for me. (I mean don't get me wrong, if a cool game comes out using the stylus, well then HELL YEAH)

But even if it didn't use the extra screen, then the DS would have the exact gameplay as the PSP, RIGHT??

Right. There so much annoying crap that gets in the way in handheld games that the second screen will fix. And who wants to play metal gear ona handheld; I think that would be beyond boring.

[petewhitley]

I am still not convinced that the DS is going to bring anything innovative to the table. What exactly are they doing that is so innovative? Or has everyone bought the hype?

Also the PSP has WiFi so it can do anything the DS can on that front.

I'm glad someone on these boards isn't blinded by nostalgia. Have people actually read the specs of these two handhelds? The PSP has wi-fi too folks. Games are increasingly targeting an older demographic, and once again Nintendo is ignoring our votes (i.e. our well-spent money) and releasing a new handheld aimed at kids. Wow, the innovation is killing me ...

[Captain Wrong]

I am still not convinced that the DS is going to bring anything innovative to the table. What exactly are they doing that is so innovative? Or has everyone bought the hype?

Also the PSP has WiFi so it can do anything the DS can on that front.

I'm glad someone on these boards isn't blinded by nostalgia. Have people actually read the specs of these two handhelds? The PSP has wi-fi too folks. Games are increasingly targeting an older demographic, and once again Nintendo is ignoring our votes (i.e. our well-spent money) and releasing a new handheld aimed at kids. Wow, the innovation is killing me ...

It's a point few want to come to grips with, but it's true.

I really think the DS is going to appeal to fanboys and kids. The fanboys will shell out, but as for the parents of the kids who bought a GBA then an SP, I really don't know. If Sony is smart, and so far this is what it looks like, they're going to do their best to portray the PSP as more grown-up, much like Sega did with the Genesis back in the day. Frankly, no one is gonig to touch Nintendo (yet) in the kiddie market, but as for the older demographic (which most gamers fall into,) it's wide open.

[Push Upstairs]

And who wants to play metal gear ona handheld; I think that would be beyond boring.

Who wants to play Super Mario 64 on a handheld? I think that would be beyond boring.


I'm not really for either one of these system (I don't want to own either) but i really want the PSP to do well so it will give Nintendo a good kick in the ass and make them *DO* something.

I always hear people talk about how Nintendo is the "last, best game company" but honestly, thier output from the last few years makes me doubt that claim. People have complained about sequal after sequal on the Playstation. I ask this: How many Mario Party games do we really need?

Would it have been acceptable if the orginal Gameboy launched with a port of SMB? Would the SNES been worth it if all it had to offer was a port of Super Mario Brothers? Doubtful.

And I do believe Nintendo needs that swift kick so that they will make some more games aimed at someone over 12. I'm not saying that Nintendo needs to add violence and virtual titties on the screen, i'm saying they need to bring out some games that have more PLOTWISE than saving a princess or collecting cute stars in a pastel colored world.

My tastes have changed since I was a kid and I doubt i am the only one, however Nintendo continues to ignore this fact.


End rant.

[Nick]

I have checked many sources and found that the graphics core on the PSP is not quite as extreme as the PS2. With the chip specs the PSP has...on that smaller screen, games should be comparable if not better looking. The CPU speed on the PSP however, has been confirmed as even faster then the PS2 and 10 times faster than the PS1. :-P

[Algol]

Although the PSP may do okay, I doubt it can beat the GBA and DS. However, Nintendo has been relying on their past sellers FAR more than they should. (Just look at the GBA!) The DS seems to be mostly a gimmick system at the moment, but if the PSP does start gaining ground, hopefully Nintendo will release something that puts that two screen, one of which you touch-1337-ness to good use.

[XxMe2NiKxX]

Get your facts straight. The PSP is slightly LESS powerful then the already feeble playstation 2. The expected library for the DS is actually bigger then that of the PSP's, and, in my opinion, the game themselves look better.

[slip81]

I'm not really interested in either handheld, but if I had to guess as to which one will be more popular I'd say Nintendo at first, but Sony may be able to catch up. Nintendo has been in the handheld market for 15 years, and has been on top fpr all that time. It's doubtfull that the PSP will dethrone Nintendo's stronghold, but I think that they can co-exist.

Plus the DS has GBA compatibility which is a huge 1-up because the system will have hundreds of games available for it right off the bat. The PSP has to start from scratch.

I think though if anyone can over throw the big N in the handheld war though it's Sony, just look what they did with the original PSX.

[om3ga]

The DS will outsell the PSP madly.

Every freakin kid in the world has a gameboy of some sort. When XMAS comes around do you think their parents are going to go with, Nintendo which has provided them with handheld entertainment for a long time that their kids enjoy, or are they going to take a risk with the "NEW" PSP.

This doesnt mean that the DS is better than the PSP. Just the retarded world of marketing.

That is just the outsell factor though.

[Ed Oscuro]

This doesnt mean that the DS is better than the PSP. Just the retarded world of marketing.
Wait...you just argued that nostalgia (which will be there whether Nintendo advertises as such, or if Sony advertises, or not) is the driving force for people to early-adopt the DS...but somehow the retarded world of marketing is to blame? OK!

[NintendoMan]

And who wants to play metal gear ona handheld; I think that would be beyond boring.

I ask this: How many Mario Party games do we really need?

Would it have been acceptable if the orginal Gameboy launched with a port of SMB? Would the SNES been worth it if all it had to offer was a port of Super Mario Brothers? Doubtful.

Well, if Madden and whatever other sports title can put out a game every year, why can't Mario Party come out every year?? I mean all sports games do is basically update schdules or add or change some of the gameplay. At least with the Mario Party's there is all new games and boards.
I look forward to new MP's every year, like a Madden person looks forward to that new game every year. Back around 10 or so years ago, pretty much all I had was sports games. TODAY, other than some extreme sports games I have not ONE sport game! Just don't like them anymore, except for basketball sometimes.

But the thing about if the SNES was released with Super Mario Brothers, would it had sold as good, is a DAMN good point!!!

[Promophile]

What I wanna know is why the hell they aren't calling it the Gameboy DS? Usually companies want to stick with names that work.

[NintendoMan]

Plus the DS has GBA compatibility which is a huge 1-up because the system will have hundreds of games available for it right off the bat.

This point is so true!! That is definately one thing that Nintendo HAD and NEEDED to do with the DS!!

And would like to say even if just about every game was a port of the N64 I would be just fine, well sorta.
I mean I hear people on here all the time saying now that they are older they have money they can get all the games they missed as children, or when they had no money. I didn't have very much money when in the N64 days for every game I wanted and can get the ones I want that I can't find in the wild. (What I am saying here is that while of course I don't want every single damn game in the library a port of the N64 library, I am looking forward to any put out. ESPCIALLY if they change some things like Mario64 DS that is coming out - I.E., New levels, Characters, etc.)
:)

[NintendoMan]

What I wanna know is why the hell they aren't calling it the Gameboy DS? Usually companies want to stick with names that work.

Because they want this to be the "THIRD PILLAR" in there franchise, and so people won't just give up on their GBA's.

[Lone_Monster]

I don't think anyone's mentioned this, so I might as well.

The DS is most definitely not only aimed at children. It is also aimed at adults. I don't think kids are really interested in playing games like "Sprung" and "Feel The Magic"

Also, there was a discussion about it here (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44534)

I'm not a fanboy or anything, as I do love my Playstation 2, but I think the DS is going to do much better than the PSP.

[MegaDrive20XX]

And who wants to play metal gear ona handheld; I think that would be beyond boring.
I ask this: How many Mario Party games do we really need?

What's funny to me, Nintendo learned how to count with Mario Party

Super Mario
Super Mario 2
Super Mario 3
Super Mario Fo...no!....WORLD!!
Super Mario...Fi......World 2: Yoshi's Island!
Super Mario Six?...no wait.....64!!!

Yet I for one, do not like playing party games on a portable, I'd rather have it on a console...example, Zelda Four Swords as part of the GBA LttP...I could never find anyone who had a friggin copy of this game!

Yet, everyone knows...Mario Party was best left on N64

[Jive3D]

Yet I for one, do not like playing party games on a portable, I'd rather have it on a console...example, Zelda Four Swords as part of the GBA LttP...I could never find anyone who had a friggin copy of this game!

That's where the new technology comes into play. Wifi gaming my friends. 4 Swords on DS would be the answer to what that game is all about, multiplayer, and from what it seems, you should be able to find other players very easily with the whole wifi functionality.

I'm a major fanboy, but by that I mean I'm a videogame fanboy, not just one of the nintendo variety. The PSP does look really cool, but nothing announced for it has be interested other than what the system looks like when it's off.

And on a completely unrelated note; Val Kilmer makes a terrible, terrible Batman.

[petewhitley]

That's where the new technology comes into play. Wifi gaming my friends. 4 Swords on DS would be the answer to what that game is all about, multiplayer, and from what it seems, you should be able to find other players very easily with the whole wifi functionality.

I don't think it's going to be very easy unless you set it up with friends ahead of time. Wi-Fi's range is rather limited, and unless you're sitting in Times Square I can't imagine finding 3 other people playing the same title in your Wi-Fi range. Wi-Fi seems destined to be an under-utilized gimmick for both the DS and the PSP.

[Push Upstairs]

Well, if Madden and whatever other sports title can put out a game every year, why can't Mario Party come out every year??

Don't get me started on Madden. Releasing basically the same game with an updated stats "patch" each year is criminal.

As for the Mario Party games...I know Nintendo can do better than cranking out 75 of these games.

I just don't understand why they don't try harder. It just seems like they said "Ahh, screw it!" because they realized Sony and MS have far deeper pockets than they ever will.





And on a completely unrelated note; Val Kilmer makes a terrible, terrible Batman.

At least he can take pride in knowing he wasnt involved with "Batman & Robin"

But he was still a crappy Batman.

[NintendoMan]

Well, if Madden and whatever other sports title can put out a game every year, why can't Mario Party come out every year??

Don't get me started on Madden. Releasing basically the same game with an updated stats "patch" each year is criminal.

As for the Mario Party games...I know Nintendo can do better than cranking out 75 of these games.

Well, OK, I am glad you at least feel the same way about Madden's!!

I look at it more like at least, while could be alot better, it's still pretty much a different game being released with the MP's. And people are still obviously buying them, otherwise they wouldn't be coming out with them so much.

And with Madden, basically for the most part just updated stats and players.
:)

[MegaDrive20XX]

Yet I for one, do not like playing party games on a portable, I'd rather have it on a console...example, Zelda Four Swords as part of the GBA LttP...I could never find anyone who had a friggin copy of this game!

That's where the new technology comes into play. Wifi gaming my friends. 4 Swords on DS would be the answer to what that game is all about, multiplayer, and from what it seems, you should be able to find other players very easily with the whole wifi functionality.

I'm a major fanboy, but by that I mean I'm a videogame fanboy, not just one of the nintendo variety. The PSP does look really cool, but nothing announced for it has be interested other than what the system looks like when it's off.

And on a completely unrelated note; Val Kilmer makes a terrible, terrible Batman.

which reminds me of SNL Celebrity Jeopardy with Micheal Keaton played by Matthew Perry..

"And your final answer is..."

"Val Kilmer sucks..."

and you wagered...

"George Clooney sucks"

[izret101]

Sorry but Mario Samus and Link can't hold up the Nintendo handheld dynasty anymore.
PSP has better graphics, that is going to decide it for some people right of the bat, and it will probably have more support or at least a much larger and diverse library of games compared to DS.

[NintendoMan]

Sorry but Mario Samus and Link can't hold up the Nintendo handheld dynasty anymore.
PSP has better graphics, that is going to decide it for some people right of the bat, and it will probably have more support or at least a much larger and diverse library of games compared to DS.

Well, they definately can't hold it up with the current selection of games. But if they wanted to it could.

And yes, the better graphics will have people on there side right off the bat and will probably have more diverse lineup of games.
BUT, on the side of Nintendo now, every kids parents will still go for the Nintendo, espcially with it being cheaper. And know for a fact that the two screen thing will attract some kids more too.

[Ed Oscuro]

That's where the new technology comes into play. Wifi gaming my friends. 4 Swords on DS would be the answer to what that game is all about, multiplayer, and from what it seems, you should be able to find other players very easily with the whole wifi functionality.
Yeah, seeing how Nintendo isn't supporting GBA multi through the DS...doh! Oh well, another day, another $30 for Nintendo, right? LOL

[petewhitley]

BUT, on the side of Nintendo now, every kids parents will still go for the Nintendo, espcially with it being cheaper.

Ha. Every kid's parents will go for the one their kids keep whining for, and whether or not that's the DS or the PSP is to be determined.

[Duncan]

My take:

DS = Pokemon = license to print money

Enough said. :) Oh, that and backwards compatibility, which has so far done wonders for the Game Boy Advance (and the Game Boy Color before it).

[zmweasel]

BUT, on the side of Nintendo now, every kids parents will still go for the Nintendo, espcially with it being cheaper.

Ha. Every kid's parents will go for the one their kids keep whining for, and whether or not that's the DS or the PSP is to be determined.

Neither the DS nor the PSP are targeted at whiny kids. They're targeted at teenagers and grown-ups. Chitlins have the GBA.

-- Z.

[Ed Oscuro]

mmm, chitlins :D

[petewhitley]

Neither the DS nor the PSP are targeted at whiny kids. They're targeted at teenagers and grown-ups. Chitlins have the GBA.

-- Z.

C'mon Zach. Nintendo and PSP may be aiming high, but you and I both know whiny kids are gonna be pestering their parents for these things. A target market often has little to do with the customers the product reaches.

[Jive3D]

That's where the new technology comes into play. Wifi gaming my friends. 4 Swords on DS would be the answer to what that game is all about, multiplayer, and from what it seems, you should be able to find other players very easily with the whole wifi functionality.

I don't think it's going to be very easy unless you set it up with friends ahead of time. Wi-Fi's range is rather limited, and unless you're sitting in Times Square I can't imagine finding 3 other people playing the same title in your Wi-Fi range. Wi-Fi seems destined to be an under-utilized gimmick for both the DS and the PSP.

Actually, I work in Times Square :D . I know I'm being over optimistic about the DS, but I have faith, at least for now :hmm:

[NintendoMan]

BUT, on the side of Nintendo now, every kids parents will still go for the Nintendo, espcially with it being cheaper.

Ha. Every kid's parents will go for the one their kids keep whining for, and whether or not that's the DS or the PSP is to be determined.

VERY TRUE. But Nintendo has Pokemon which ='s lots of KIDS wanting it!

[Duncan]

VERY TRUE. But Nintendo has Pokemon which ='s lots of KIDS wanting it!

Which I said, too, but it was apparently missed in all the bickering. Glad you agree, because I think that's the deciding factor.

[spider-man]

I'm getting a virtual boy vibe from the ds. I think the psp will have the majority of third party support (a company can only last so long with first party games to keep them afloat, example-sega). I totally agree with PUSH UPSTAIRS' first post.

[Nick]

Sorry but Mario Samus and Link can't hold up the Nintendo handheld dynasty anymore.
PSP has better graphics, that is going to decide it for some people right of the bat, and it will probably have more support or at least a much larger and diverse library of games compared to DS.

I'd have to totally agree with this statement. I lost interest in metroid and mario ever since they first released on the NES. They were easily two of the greatest games ever made but it doesn't cut it anymore. I really think that the DS may have a killer launch (in terms of unit sales) and stay fairly strong throughout the lifespan, but PSP is going to have a better, more diverse, software library and way better graphics. These factors alone in my opinion, will sway many people down the road.

The statement made about kids parents knowing nintendo and buying nintendo might be a little outdated at this point. I think "Playstation" has possibly become a greater household name than "Nintendo" these days. All you ever see on shows, movies, etc...are Playstations.

If only Nintendo could show me something that made me want to buy it. System features are great...stereo sound, wifi, etc etc..but the games are just plain ugz at this point. Look at third party games like Spiderman 2. If I wanted a side scrolling fighter game I could play a better one on the GBA. (Mario on the other hand does impress me being that it is on a handheld...one game though...not enough)

x_x

[NintendoMan]

I would just like to say that I don't think alot of people understand on here that the handheld market is DIFFERENT than the console market.

(Unless Sony manages to change that, somehow)

[Push Upstairs]

I dunno, I'd cast my eyes on both Nintendo and Sony.

Both are sort of treating the handheld market as a dumping ground for console ports instead of a "different" market.

[tholly]

im kinda partial to nintendo, so i voted no

but, i will be picking up a DS and a PSP ... DS is an xmas gift and the PSP ill buy for myself when it comes out in the US...is there an offical US release date yet?



hmmm.... gamestop.com has a bunch of psp games listed at a 12/7 release date, i know that doesnt mean much and is likely to change, BUT........will we see a US PSP release before XMas???

[Promophile]

I would just like to say that I don't think alot of people understand on here that the handheld market is DIFFERENT than the console market.

(Unless Sony manages to change that, somehow)

I agree. The dynamics are TOTALLY different.

[link1110]

Have people actually read the specs of these two handhelds?

Specs mean nothing. The system with the highest specs has NEVER won a hardware generation.

NES beat SMS
SNES beat 3DO, CDI, 32x, Jaguar, etc.
PSX beat N64
PS2 beat XBOX
GB beat Game Gear, Lynx, Nomad
GBC beat Wonderswan Color
GBA beat N-Gage


Sorry but Mario Samus and Link can't hold up the Nintendo handheld dynasty anymore.

Maybe that's true and maybe it's not, but the fact remains that Pokemon can (and will) sell millions of DS'es by itself.

[zmweasel]

Maybe that's true and maybe it's not, but the fact remains that Pokemon can (and will) sell millions of DS'es by itself.

Except that Nintendo is aiming the DS at an older market, and Pokemon is a children's franchise. A version of Pokemon for DS would definitely sell well, but it would also be indirect acknowledgement that Nintendo doesn't know how to reach beyond fanboys and children to teenagers and adults (the PSP's target demographic).

-- Z.