Slimy SOB seller

[Iron Draggon]

Adol: sorry for the confusion, I was referring to something that skiier_addict does, not you. BTW, I agree, $260 for a sealed Mario Kart million seller? LOL

[Li Wang]

To liwang; EVERYBODY interested in Nintendo japanese stuff ( well,except Gamecube ) knows that ANY nintendo game there is NOT SEALED....just carton box...so is there is shrinkwrap you MUST know somebody added it in Japan ( generally shops )...no confusion here

1. People may be more aware of that now, but basically nothing about this was known by people in the early English Famicom collecting community until a couple sites that focused on import stuff mentioned or had small articles on the issue. I know because I was there. My initial comment was geared toward the possibility that you also may not have known better at the time, but from your reply it would appear that isn't the case.

2. As can be seen from another reply, even today it isn't common knowledge among all serious collectors.

3. Even if it were true that import collectors all knew every little fact about this stuff from the beginning of any sort of online "scene", there's always been a big cross-collectibility that stretches into the anime market.

So, the question still remains. If it's obvious to everyone including yourself that these things aren't original factory seals, why not just open the games to verify the contents? The general consensus seems to be that many less experienced buyers could indeed be confused by these issues. Why continually list items in such an ambiguous manner?

[number6]

Well Adol I have to give you credit for coming in here and defending yourself. Your negative feedback problems may very well boil down to a language barrier problem. I stand by my stance that I would never deal with you on Ebay because there are still too many concerns on my end about some of the negs you have received.

I am a picky ebay buyer, but I try and make sure I get all the issues out of the way before I bid to avoid the ugliness of an auction gone bad. If you check my ebay feedback (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=number6ebf&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS) you will see I am not a buyer that hassles sellers. Normally if I saw an auction like yours on ebay I would simply hit the back button on my browser. I took an interest in your auctions because this is not the first time that your name came up here.

[Aussie2B]

Again, if this guy was a fraud and if a lot of his buyers felt ripped off as many of you are accusing him of trying to do don't you think that he would have accumulated a lot more negative feedback by now than he has?

I'm not saying anything about Adol one way or the other here, but I feel something should be pointed out here. Take a look at this seller:

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=gkworld.com

That's a TON of feedback with a good percentage being positive, right? You'd consider the seller reliable and safe to buy from, right? WRONG. This seller is one of the most dishonest sellers on eBay and despite the fact that nearly all of his products are illegal according to eBay's terms, he STILL is able to sell and STILL gets tons of positive feedback. Almost everything he sells is a pirated product, most of them being bootleg video game and anime soundtracks. Considering the massive amount of pirated goods the seller sells, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they are involved in organized crime or purchase their merchandise directly from organized crime groups producing these bootleg products. It absolutely disgusts me that this seller continues to sell and make a fortune year after year AND GETS PRAISE FOR IT!

So... here's where it becomes quite a fitting comparison to Adol. You may ask, well why does this seller get so many satisfied customers then? And why does Adol? Because the buyers don't know any better. The people who buy from gkworld.com get their soundtracks, they play just fine, they enjoy them, and they go along their merry way not considering for one second that they didn't get a 100% official, legitimate product. Same with Adol. I imagine most believe they're purchasing a factory sealed game, they get it and it looks new to them, they put it on a shelf in their collection, and never think twice about it.

My point is, DON'T put all your faith into a high amount of positive feedback. The worst sellers on eBay aren't Joe Shmoe Scumbag who sells an item or two dishonestly, gets negative feedback, and get banned from eBay. It's the big guys that sell year 'round, duping buyers over and over, without any of the buyers knowing the difference.

[Bronty-2]

[quote="Adol"]

bronty-2: my answer was meaning: when i say Factory Sealed i'm 100% sure it is,because of the horizontal seal....for the sealed game i cannot confirm it 100% because there is no horizontal seam on the back of the box,and i CLEARLY SHOW IT ( i could lie and don't show back of the game,but no, i SHOW IT )...that doesn't mean it is not factory sealed, i'm not used with factory seal "techniques" back at that time...but i guess that it doesn't have horizontal seal for Nintendo ( i mean MADE by Nintendo ) games they're only resealed... [/quote="Adol"]

--I appreciate the reply but c'mon man. You know they're resealed, none of this "I cannot confirm it 100%" bullshit.

--No you didn't lie. All of the statements made in your auctions appear to be factual. But they are presented in a way intended to mislead inexperienced buyers, that's what I have an issue with.

--as for brinn1, yeah I heard you gave him back $250. I also heard that you were pushing pretty hard to sell him some sealed NES. Makes me wonder if the $250 wasn't intended to be a loss leader on some NES reseal profits? :/

[Adol]

Aussie-2B: Except the fact i do NOT deal any pirate stuff, i never did,and i'll never do.Too,this guy has 226 negative feedbacks in 1 year,when i only got 4
So i'm 56 times more reliable :)

Bronty: i can't still say they're RESEALED or not, no...i won 5 games from someone here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8138487954

See, he says they're in "factory sealed boxes",and list them as NEW condition...however they do NOT have horizontal line seams on the back of the boxes...he says it,but STILL he lists them s new...WHY?
especially for someone who bid&win Factory Sealed games like Excitebike for $200,or Kung fu for $130...for selling SO LOW,it must has been resealed...but does he say it? no...

For Brinn1, it is not like that...i realized my mistake, i realized after having been SCREWED myself by Raritygamesinc on a "factory sealed" SNES Mega Man X game i paid $150 (when it values $60 max,since it doesn't have vertical line seam on the back) that my FF3 should have been the same, and then i refunded him...that's all!
I proposed him Factory Sealed & Used CIB NES Games,because i do have many of them,way more than SNES games...but i proposed him too many N64&SNES Games...what's your point? I can't sell NES Games without having your agreement?
And Brinn1 was satisfied with the Super Mario All Sstars & Dracula X Factory Sealed SNES Games i sold him...

[8bitnes]

See, he says they're in "factory sealed boxes",and list them as NEW condition...however they do NOT have horizontal line seams on the back of the boxes...he says it,but STILL he lists them s new...WHY?


Two wrongs (his and yours) doesn't make it right.

[Jibbajaba]

Bronty: i can't still say they're RESEALED or not, no...i won 5 games from someone here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8138487954

So just to be clear here, you are going to resell those games individually and not mention that they are reseals, right? You are just going to say that they are mint and sealed? I mean, we all know (including you) that those games are reseals. But you are going to resell them without disclosing that fact, right?

Chris

[charitycasegreg]

Bronty: i can't still say they're RESEALED or not, no...i won 5 games from someone here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8138487954

So just to be clear here, you are going to resell those games individually and not mention that they are reseals, right? You are just going to say that they are mint and sealed? I mean, we all know (including you) that those games are reseals. But you are going to resell them without disclosing that fact, right?

Chris

Thats pretty much what I came to a while ago. He has sealed games. If they arent factory sealed the title will just be something lik "Mario RPG new and sealed!"

[boozi2]

This guy has 226 negative feedbacks in 1 year,when i only got 4
So i'm 56 times more reliable :)
So wait, are you saying that you have only 4 negatives? Then why the fuck do you have 59? x_x

[Adol]

Please read correctly the sentence...he got 226 negative feedbacks IN PAST YEAR,otherwise he has WAY more!
And during the VERY SAME period,i only get 4,which is 56 times less than him!

[boozi2]

Yeah, after I posted my reply I noticed that :embarrassed: sorry :eek 2:

[Daria]

Please read correctly the sentence...he got 226 negative feedbacks IN PAST YEAR,otherwise he has WAY more!
And during the VERY SAME period,i only get 4,which is 56 times less than him!

You didn't answer Jibbajabba's question.


So just to be clear here, you are going to resell those games individually and not mention that they are reseals, right? You are just going to say that they are mint and sealed? I mean, we all know (including you) that those games are reseals. But you are going to resell them without disclosing that fact, right?

Chris

[esquire]

The bottom line is this: The seller knows what a factory seal is, and advertises items that are factory sealed as such. Items that are not factory sealed are advertised as "sealed" and "mint" when he knows they are are actually "re-sealed" and has no idea whether they are "mint" as he has never seen the item inside since he claims he is not the one doing the re-sealing. If this is not dishonest, I don't know what is. It's clear and simple. A spade is a spade. We can debate and parse words until we are blue in the face. IMO it has nothing to do whatsoever by any purported "language barrier." The seller is a sophisticated seller who has been listing auctions on ebay for some time now. I am sure this issue is not the first time it has come up. Check the few negative feedbacks from buyers who comment on the condition of the game when its being advertised as "sealed and mint."

What gets me even more is that a "re-seal" brings nothing to the value of the game, and the seller knows it. A re-seal has no other purpose but to protect the contents, and that is only good if you are the one who places the contents into the box before it is sealed, and you can vouch as to the condition of the contents. A "re-sealed" game is worth no more than the game in the same condition, unsealed, save maybe (at most) the cost of the shrinkwrap.

Knowing all that, the seller advertises these items as "sealed" to deceitfully get more money for his auctions. If he truly wants to advertise the items as "mint" or "complete", he should open the seal and inspect the contents. If he is being honest, he'll have nothing to lose as it is not a factory seal, it has no value, and does nothing for the value of the item. At the same time, by being honest and truthful, he gains the confidence and respect of his buyers.

[Griking]

At the same time, by being honest and truthful, he gains the confidence and respect of his buyers.

Looking at his feedback it looks like he already has the respect of a great majority of his buyers.

Look, can we just let this thread die like it should of a week ago? This is obviously another situation where people are going to have to agree to disagree. The facts are out there, use them to make an educated decision. If you feel comfortable bidding on this guys auctions then do so and if you don't then don't. But please just let it die.

[Adol]

to jibbijabba question: they are SEALED, i bought them SEALED, and i don't open them nor RESEAL them..then they're in the very same condition i received them: SEALED, as say my seller (not me!)!
Once again, i don't reseal games.
Games advertized as FACTORY SEALED and put in "NEW" condition listing, are clearly factory sealed,with horizontal line seam on the back,etc...

for the other games, like Captain Comic or Raid 2020 for example, those games when they were factory sealed NEVER had horizontal line seam on the back..if i receive such games SEALED in that condition,how could you know they're used,unless you open them?
I'm not stupid enough to open them and lose 80% or their value!

Too,some of the sealed games arrived with seal opened on top...then i had the opportunity to check condition,and all were mint with EVERYTHING!no missing part at all...what i'm supposed to think?
That they are perfect condition used games but sealed, or factory sealed games?
I'm honest,and don't list them as NEW,i list them EXACTLY as what they are: sealed games,not new but i can't vouch they're used.

What can i do more?

I don't agree with your point of view that they're OBVIOUSLY reseals...many of them can be factory seals and i WON'T open them just for checking contents, and lose 80% of the value of the game...some ones were opened and i had the pleasure to see everything was there,in 100% of the cases!

to esquire: you can "look for" my FEW negative feedbacks,i mean the 4 i had in ONE YEAR,and you'll see only 2 are from buyers...so what?2 buyers complaining,but 500 are happy?WOW!

To griking: thank you for having a FAIR point of view of my feedback

Well,i don't think many sellers have time to post here for explaining, but i did it, and i think i proved my honesty here.
Thanks

[esquire]

At the same time, by being honest and truthful, he gains the confidence and respect of his buyers.

Looking at his feedback it looks like he already has the respect of a great majority of his buyers.

Look, can we just let this thread die like it should of a week ago? This is obviously another situation where people are going to have to agree to disagree. The facts are out there, use them to make an educated decision. If you feel comfortable bidding on this guys auctions then do so and if you don't then don't. But please just let it die.

..and likewise, if you don't like a thread, please don't respond. However, please don't tell others whether they should post.

[Vroomfunkel]

if you don't like a thread, please don't respond. However, please don't tell others whether they should post.

Um .. did you forget what you said in your first sentence before you wrote the second, or did you intend to contradict yourself?

I think that Griking's point is that everyone has had their say on this now - and anything more is just going to be endless repetitions of what has already been said ... as indeed the last few days worth of posts have been.

Vroomfunkel