resident evil 4 no longer gamecube only

[tonyvortex]

well it looks like becouse of share holders and the public demand its now also coming to PS2 .it will be shipping at the end of 2005 for japan,europe,and the usa.i kind of liked that capcom was a sort of sticking to gamecube with games as they had with dreamcast.i know this will make lots of people happy but being such a supporter of gamecube im sort of bummed.trying to sell people a gamecube reminds me of when i worked at funco and tried selling dreamcasts.i remember it felt like such a struggle to get people to give the dreamcast a try.at least the gamecube version has a year on the playstation one.

[MarkMan]

While I've always speculated that Capcom would release it on other consoles(ex Viewtiful Joe), I was never informed that it was official, you have a source on this?

[tonyvortex]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/562/562367p1.html?ui=ign_theme1_3

and

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/31/news_6111911.html

[Promophile]

great. freaking great. Why the hell did I buy a Gamecube again :roll: . I own about 6 games for it, all exclusives, because I refuse to buy multi-platform games for anything but the X-box or PS2.

[DigitalSpace]

Well, at least the GC release is way ahead of the PS2 release.

[soniko_karuto]

much like halo and gta for the pc.

[Pedro Lambrini]

I hate to say it but the 'Cube is really slipping these days. How many 3rd party exclusives are there? In fact, how many good games (ie not average) have been released lately? And have you seen the release list? It ain't getting much better soon... :(

I love my 'Cube - it's just a shame nobody else does...

[Sniderman]

Meh. It's non-news. Unless you release on all platforms, you're cutting your throat. "Exclusive?" Bah. Why not say "Cut our sales down to 1/3 of what it could be."

I feel the days of the "exclusive game only on this console" are over. And those that whine about this, remember that GTAIII and Vice City went in the OTHER direction "exclusive-wise."

And another point, RE: Code Veronica was a Dreamcast exclusive, as was Crazy Taxi. And Gamecube still has RE 0 and the remakes of the originals, so quitcher bitchin'. ;)

[EnemyZero]

big name titles being excluisive is getting les and less these days, depressing...i used to love when genesis had the sweet game snes didnt, or when they did have the same game they were different...IE shadowrun

[SlayerOfFurbies]

Bah the only exclusives will be first party titles

[Querjek]

I think Capcom was just punking us GCN fans for a long time.

[kai123]

Meh. It's non-news. Unless you release on all platforms, you're cutting your throat. "Exclusive?" Bah. Why not say "Cut our sales down to 1/3 of what it could be."

I feel the days of the "exclusive game only on this console" are over. And those that whine about this, remember that GTAIII and Vice City went in the OTHER direction "exclusive-wise."

And another point, RE: Code Veronica was a Dreamcast exclusive, as was Crazy Taxi. And Gamecube still has RE 0 and the remakes of the originals, so quitcher bitchin'. ;)

That is how I feel about it as well. I can't believe anybody wants a third party game to be exclusive. I love it when everybody gets to enjoy a game without having to buy another console. It is still coming out for the Cube so show your support by buying the GC version. Unless you want to wait another year for the PS2 version. I just hope they don't add anything to the PS2 version like they did with the PS2 port of Code Veronica.:/

[NintendoMan]

Well, at least the GC release is way ahead of the PS2 release.

Very true! Since GC gets it in the very beginning (Jan14) and PS2 at the end of 2005.

[zmweasel]

Meh. It's non-news. Unless you release on all platforms, you're cutting your throat. "Exclusive?" Bah. Why not say "Cut our sales down to 1/3 of what it could be."

Actually, taking into account the installed bases of the PS2 and Xbox, about 1/5 of what they could be. Plus, third-party Cube releases don't sell.

-- Z.

[digitalpress]

great. freaking great. Why the hell did I buy a Gamecube again :roll: . I own about 6 games for it, all exclusives, because I refuse to buy multi-platform games for anything but the X-box or PS2.

If you MUST have exclusives on your GameCube, there are still plenty to choose from. Here's the link to the list:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42417&

[slip81]

I can't understand why people think that exclusives aren't possible anymore because it decreases profits. Exclusives could easily increase profits and popularity of systems if third party publishers started making good exclusive games. Sure the GCN isn't doing well right now, but I bet if Konami and Capcom each released 10 bitchin' exclusive games that were going to stay exclusive sales of the system would go up.

Exclusive games don't do well now because the consumer knows it will eventually be multi-platform so ther is no need to buy multiple consoles to play the games you like. If the game companies were smart about it they could have all three systems selling equially as well.

[zmweasel]

I can't understand why people think that exclusives aren't possible anymore because it decreases profits. Exclusives could easily increase profits and popularity of systems if third party publishers started making good exclusive games. Sure the GCN isn't doing well right now, but I bet if Konami and Capcom each released 10 bitchin' exclusive games that were going to stay exclusive sales of the system would go up.

It's not just that the GameCube isn't doing well "right now." It will never catch up to the PS2 or the Xbox, and it will never hold more than one-fourth of the PS2/Xbox/GCN market, at very best.

Also, GameCube owners have proven to be ambivalent about third-party releases. All the best-selling Cube titles are first-party, whereas the PS2 and Xbox best-seller lists are teeming with third-party releases.

For these reasons, it would be absurd for Capcom or any other third-party publisher to limit itself to the Cube. Viewtiful Joe was a bitchin' Cube exclusive, and no one cared. Why should Capcom release ten more bitchin' Cube exclusives to confirm the obvious?

-- Z.

[Sylentwulf]

<pats his squarenix/ps2 games>

I was under the impression that capcom had like a 3-5 years contract with nintendo to release all new resident evil games exclusive to the gamecube. Maybe the contract is up and capcom is thrilled that they can stop losing money now.

[zmweasel]

<pats his squarenix/ps2 games>

I was under the impression that capcom had like a 3-5 years contract with nintendo to release all new resident evil games exclusive to the gamecube. Maybe the contract is up and capcom is thrilled that they can stop losing money now.

You're right. Capcom and Nintendo announced that agreement just before 9/11. It only applied to the core franchise releases, allowing Capcom to ship RE: Dead Aim and RE: Outbreak for the PS2, and it has presumably expired.

-- Z.

[sabre2922]

now I only have one reason to buy another Gamecube and thats for Zelda but I guess that will be plenty reason for me ;)

[theoakwoody]

I think everyone underestimates the effect of Zelda: The Windwaker on Nintendo fans. Everyone loved OoT and lots of people enjoyed MM but they also loved the look of the games. I think that when Miyamoto decided on cell shading instead of a more mature look he inadvertantly put a kiddie tag on the gamecube. I know we talk about Metroid Prime and Eternal Darkness and Resident Evil and Second Sight but I think that Miyamoto really effected gamecube sales. Windwaker should have been the type of game that made people want to buy the cube but the last time I checked they weren't packaging the cube with Zelda. It may be too late but if Nintendo releases that new Zelda game, that has the more mature looking graphics, in the cube's lifetime I think sales would definitely pick up. It's sad to say that Nintendo's systems depend so heavily on the Mario and Zelda franchises but its true. I'm not even going to get into Mario Sunshine but that went over just about as well as Zelda so I think they need to figure out what they did wrong this time around. I think it's fine to be innovative but stick to what your fanbase likes while at the same time expanding on the universe to give each game a new feel.

[le geek]

To be honest I'm more interested in Killer 7. I do hope Nintendo does better in the next round though...

Ben

[MegaDrive20XX]

this comes as a shock and no big surprise at the same time, because Sony will always have a place for RE, due to the fact that's who made Resident Evil what it is today...as soon as RE Outbreak was announced for PS2, I knew something was wrong with that contact between Nintendo and Capcom...These days, there is no such thing as "exclusive" it seems, only "First Party" has the rights to call the shots of what should be exclusive.

I wouldn't be too surprised at this rate if RE and RE Zero are ported to PS2 as well lol

[lendelin]

Meh. It's non-news. Unless you release on all platforms, you're cutting your throat. "Exclusive?" Bah. Why not say "Cut our sales down to 1/3 of what it could be."

I feel the days of the "exclusive game only on this console" are over. And those that whine about this, remember that GTAIII and Vice City went in the OTHER direction "exclusive-wise."

And another point, RE: Code Veronica was a Dreamcast exclusive, as was Crazy Taxi. And Gamecube still has RE 0 and the remakes of the originals, so quitcher bitchin'. ;)

The bad news is, a GC exclusive title cuts your sales figures more than just by 1/3; it is more like 50 to 60%.

Exclusives aren't over yet, they are very profitable, not only for the hardware manufacturer by driving sales for the console, but also for game publishers. If a console like the PS2 dominates so much (=numbers of systems out there), a publsiher reaches a lot of gamers without the costs developing the game for one or two other consoles. Capcom wouldn't have any probs releasing a RE4 for the PS2 only; they have a lot of probs with titles as GC exclusives.

There are so many "automatic" PS2 exclusives out there, it is not even funny anymore. Xbox and GC have to fight for exclusives, Sony gets them without a lot of effort from third-party publishers...and look at the best games of last year, the majority of games are exclusive titles for every system.

The situation for the GC is much worse than two years ago. I'm glad that Namco in their own interest and probably paid by Nintendo put out Tales of Symphonia and Baten Kaitos as GC exclusives; they avoided the over-crowded RPG competition on the PS2, and the GC gets much needed exclusive titles.

Just looking at lists of all exclusive RPGs available on the PS2, Xbox and GC, it is obvious that the situation for the GC is serious; not as bad as the N64 was, but in the last two years they headed in the same direction.

Comparing release lists of last year and scheduled releases, the XBox caught up with the PS2, the green logo is on the march with an improved image and titles, and the GC is a very distant third, unfortunately.

[Ed Oscuro]

Meh. It's non-news. Unless you release on all platforms, you're cutting your throat. "Exclusive?" Bah. Why not say "Cut our sales down to 1/3 of what it could be."
The bad news is, a GC exclusive title cuts your sales figures more than just by 1/3; it is more like 50 to 60%.
He said to 1/3. Not by one-third.

Personally I think it'd turn out to be much less than 1/3...maybe even 1/4 potential sales by releasing only GameCube is high. This assumes we're talking about an XBox release as well, though. There's a good reason not to release on any given one of the platforms (XBox - what experience does Capcom have there? Oh wait...but then you have to allocate an XBox-friendly team to reprogram it), but I think it'd be pretty reasonable to expect given sales that people are going to buy roughly proportionately across the different platforms...who knows, the GC and especially XBox people probably feel starved for a good RE game (I know I do!)

[lendelin]

It may be too late but if Nintendo releases that new Zelda game, that has the more mature looking graphics, in the cube's lifetime I think sales would definitely pick up. It's sad to say that Nintendo's systems depend so heavily on the Mario and Zelda franchises but its true.

The war is over already, the new Zelda won't change a thing. But you are right; Zelda WW, as much as I loved the bold innovative direction, was a bad decision; it reenforced the image problem of Nintendo. I said so two years ago. And so does the new Paper Mario and the upcoming Fire Emblem.

The silly Regis PR-talk didn't help and won't help. You cahnge your image with games first, THEN comes the smart PR. Agressive, cool talk alone appears just plain silly.

It doesn't matter a bit on which system a series became a bestseller, the prferences of developers or their nice feelings for a system don't matter, our wishful thinking doesn't matter...what matters are profit rates and sales figures for developers and publsihers. That was the case during the times of the Atari 2600, and it is the case today.

[TheRedEye]

great. freaking great. Why the hell did I buy a Gamecube again :roll: . I own about 6 games for it, all exclusives, because I refuse to buy multi-platform games for anything but the X-box or PS2.

?

With some very rare exceptions, why would you buy a PS2 version of a game over Gamecube? Do you enjoy the weird frameskipping in Beyond Good and Evil?

[Habeeb Hamusta]

Damnit! Why?! Damn you capcom. Although I'm not surprised. But I was when viewtiful joe got on PS2. Heh, what's next? Pikmin on PS2?

[Cobra Commander]

Here's what I really hate, and here's what will happen. When Viewtiful Joe went to PS2, I saw the same thing in every mag:
"Viewtiful Joe! Check out this quirky action game now on PS2!!.....also available on Gamcube.

[Daria]

Well at least the Gamecube version will look better then the PS2 one. I mean I like my PS2 and all, but it's the weakest system of the three when it comes to cross plateform releases.

[tritium]

The question isn't wether they are the market leader but wether they can remain profitable this far behind in the race. If they can, then it doesn't really matter what the other guys are up to.

I think the market has grown large enough to support three systems.

-Tritium

[RCM]

I don't think I have anymore. I was reading the horrible propaganda that is Nintendo Power. One of the top fellas said that RE4 was only possible on Gamecube. I think it was Hiroyuki Kobayashi. Maybe he was referring to the contract between Capcom and Nintendo at the time???

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[brykasch]

To me its more of a meh, I would still buy it for the cube even if it came on both at the same time. I think the GC graphics are much better imho than the ps2 (and before you get in a tizzzy I own all three systems). And they are gonna release it in the crowded holiday season for the ps2, bad move imho, especially if for some crazy ass reason it gets bad reviews (not bloody likely from what I have seen and heard).

But I mean you can get a used GC for 69.99 or less depending on where you look, I mean that is nothing for a current gen system. And as far as games coming out yeah GC doesn't have as much as the ps2 , but neither does the ps2 have a ton of must haves coming out imho either. Hell this year alone on the gc there was tos, ff:cc, donkey konga, mega man collection, mega man x, paper mario, x-men legends, mario golf, metal gear solid:tts, etc. Plus there are good games coming out as well for the holiday season. I will admit the third party support is piss poor, and only companies, like namco, ea, capcom, that can afford it do release games for the cube.

For me it goes xbox-gamecube-ps2 in that order. Main reason I have a ps2 is for rpg's, and a few others but my gc and xbox collection are almost double my ps2 one.

[NE146]

There is a Resident Evil 4? Did that not come out like 5 years ago or something on the Dreamcast or Sega Saturn? :roll:

R.E. -_-

[thetoxicone]

Meh. It's non-news. Unless you release on all platforms, you're cutting your throat. "Exclusive?" Bah. Why not say "Cut our sales down to 1/3 of what it could be."

You may cut sales but wouldn't the company be making up front profit from Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft when they pay for the exclusive rights to a game.

[Habeeb Hamusta]

There is a Resident Evil 4? Did that not come out like 5 years ago or something on the Dreamcast or Sega Saturn? :roll:

R.E. -_-

No. Maybe you thinkin of Resident Evil: Code Veronica.

[EricRyan34]

woooohooo!!! I am so happy that this is going to be available for the Playstation 2!!!!!

[hydr0x]

It's not just that the GameCube isn't doing well "right now." It will never catch up to the PS2 or the Xbox, and it will never hold more than one-fourth of the PS2/Xbox/GCN market, at very best.

zach wtf is up with you? really, why do you always spread false rumours:

the gc is not behind the xbox if you look at the world market, the gc is slighty ahead in germany and by far better selling in japan, fact is they are pretty even

[Half Japanese]

Good for Capcom. Maybe they'll make money on it instead of pleasing a rather small but fiercely loyal and venomous fan base. Personally the ps2 is generally my last choice for multiplatform releases. Xbox is always first because of 5.1 surround and 480p. Gamecube is second because the games just look a good deal better than ps2. That said, I don't understand the "oh shit, everyone else not in my elitist group will get to enjoy this now...shit!" attitude that's so prevalent with fanboys, Nintendo in general. If you were truly excited for the game itself, and not solely with the prospect of another decent exclusive you'd be happy to see it reaching a wider audience. You're no different than the music snobs that yell "sell out!" whenever a band signs to a major label. Just shut up.

[zmweasel]

It's not just that the GameCube isn't doing well "right now." It will never catch up to the PS2 or the Xbox, and it will never hold more than one-fourth of the PS2/Xbox/GCN market, at very best.

zach wtf is up with you? really, why do you always spread false rumours:

the gc is not behind the xbox if you look at the world market, the gc is slighty ahead in germany and by far better selling in japan, fact is they are pretty even

I was referring to the North American market, in which the Cube is getting trounced by the PS2 and Xbox. This Xmas will widen the lead, with San Andreas on PS2, Halo 2 on Xbox, and...Metroid Prime 2 on GameCube? Ouch.

The Japanese market is no longer of utmost significance in the videogame world. In fact, the Japanese market has been in the toidey for several years now, with sales waaaay down. Microsoft is doing well with the Xbox, despite the utter refusal of Japanese gamers to purchase American games and systems, because the North American market is so robust.

As for your bizarre and completely false accusation that I "always spread false rumors," I haven't a clue what the hell you're talking about.

-- Z.

[zmweasel]

Meh. It's non-news. Unless you release on all platforms, you're cutting your throat. "Exclusive?" Bah. Why not say "Cut our sales down to 1/3 of what it could be."

You may cut sales but wouldn't the company be making up front profit from Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft when they pay for the exclusive rights to a game.

Whatever Nintendo paid Capcom to make RE a GameCube exclusive obviously didn't make up for the lack of software sales.

RE was always a poor fit for Nintendo anyway, an awkward grab at a "mature" franchise by a company whose most loyal customers are children and fanboys.

-- Z.

[Daria]

a company whose most loyal customers are ... fanboys.

-- Z.

Isn't everyone's most loyal customer a fanboy? :P

[Ed Oscuro]

I don't think I have anymore. I was reading the horrible propaganda that is Nintendo Power. One of the top fellas said that RE4 was only possible on Gamecube. I think it was Hiroyuki Kobayashi.
Oh, haha, but trust me - you WILL pluck out your eyes when you witness the PS2 version after the GC version :)

The only thing the PS2 has going that the GC doesn't is the ability to put more stuff on the disc. Great for movie-to-game titles like the Lord of the Rings games from EA, but I thought gamers wanted better gameplay and control over CGI cutscenes?

[NE146]

It still surprises me how many loyalist camps we have on the digitpress boards for ps2/gc/xbox.

You'd think that on a collector's board like this you'd have mostly impartial "get it all" kind of players :P But I guess that's not really the case. :hmm:

[Ed Oscuro]

You'd think that on a collector's board like this you'd have mostly impartial "get it all" kind of players :P But I guess that's not really the case. :hmm:
I have no issues with those who have Lotuses and Jaguars worth of cash to burn, but for the rest of us, platform is everything.

So I say: Get the GameCube version if you've got a GameCube, and get the PS2 version if you've got that system, but I'm personally VERY happy that I've got the GameCube.

[MegaDrive20XX]

a company whose most loyal customers are ... fanboys.

-- Z.

Isn't everyone's most loyal customer a fanboy? :P

damn, she's right! :eek 2:

[zmweasel]

a company whose most loyal customers are ... fanboys.

-- Z.

Isn't everyone's most loyal customer a fanboy? :P

Indeed. I failed in trying to make the point that the GameCube has been embraced by children and fanboys, whereas the PS2 and Xbox have been embraced by teenagers, grown-ups, and people with lives.

-- Z.

[Captain Wrong]

What I wanna know is, who is honestly suprized by this? I mean, aside from die-hard Nintendo loyalists.

[Daria]

a company whose most loyal customers are ... fanboys.

-- Z.

Isn't everyone's most loyal customer a fanboy? :P

Indeed. I failed in trying to make the point that the GameCube has been embraced by children and fanboys, whereas the PS2 and Xbox have been embraced by teenagers, grown-ups, and people with lives.

-- Z.

Oh no need to explain. You made your point, I was just teasing you about the wording. (:

[Ed Oscuro]

The alternate argument is that Nintendo fans have formed strong opinions about what company provides them the best entertainment, and that people who go with the other systems just don't care :P

There's faults with my argument in that one can easily point out how the Final Fantasy series has been Sony-centric throughout the last two generations, but by the same token I can't wrap my arms around that bold assertion that everybody who's picked up a GameCube didn't do it for good reasons. Surely I would have been able to pick up a bundle of pretty good games if I had gotten another system...but all the same I have my reasons for buying a GameCube and they do stick. In my house, there's an XBox, a few pretty good PCs, a GameCube, various older Macs I own, and a slew of classic consoles...so I understand that my choice of a GameCube had very limited merit.

We've run headfirst into a the mire of subjectivism and relative outlooks, that's what. Is it possible to extricate oneself gracefully?

I argue to you, Zach Meston, that there is no merit in bashing fanboys on the belief that frequent rubbings against the grindstone of fact will cause them to become enlightened by degrees...rather, every time one appeals to them about the good merits of other systems (and the rest of the world, as you point out), it should encourage them to think about other things more openly, rather than drive them further back into the shadows of fanboyism.

[zmweasel]

Oh no need to explain. You made your point, I was just teasing you about the wording. (:

It's my fault for trying to write posts and play GTA: San Andreas at the same time. (Finished all the story missions, working through the secondary stuff.)

-- Z.

[SoulBlazer]

Hey! I resent that! I have a GameCube and I'm a adult! :) But I also have the other two consoles. ;)

Folks, the days of exclusive only games are slipping. You'll only see it now and then, for a brand new console or a really huge game coming out on the best system. This is one of the reasons I DO own all three consoles -- I can pick and choose among the best versions out there.

PS2 is last on my list of systems to buy a game for, but often times, due to the system's success, the game will ONLY come out on the PS2 so I'll buy it. Star Ocean 3 is my most recent example that comes to mind.

My sports games I have for the XBox and Gladius I have for the GC because I believe those are the 'best' ports. And I'm also going to hold off on buying GTA: San Adreas until a Xbox or PC version comes out.

A company will release a game to systems that they feel it can make the most money on. With the console wars as hot as they have been, nine times out of ten that means it will come out for two or three consoles. It means you can not get by with only one console these days. You need one of the more 'popular' ones -- and that means either a PS2 or Xbox.

[Crush Crawfish]

I hate to see the GCN, my favorite current system, lose yet another exclusive. Whenever a game is multiplatform, I always buy the GCN version anyway. Oh well, at least it means more sales and money for my favorite company.

[RCM]

Oh, haha, but trust me - you WILL pluck out your eyes when you witness the PS2 version after the GC version :)

The only thing the PS2 has going that the GC doesn't is the ability to put more stuff on the disc. Great for movie-to-game titles like the Lord of the Rings games from EA, but I thought gamers wanted better gameplay and control over CGI cutscenes?

I've seen the GC version. Looks good. I'm sure the GC version will look way bettter then the PS2. It was built for the GC wasn't it? why yes it was! Ha ha ha.

I personally enjoy neato gameplay over totally cool cut scenes! We should take a poll to see what people prefer so we can have some hard numbers!!!!!!

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[Ed Oscuro]

Oh, haha, but trust me - you WILL pluck out your eyes when you witness the PS2 version after the GC version :)

The only thing the PS2 has going that the GC doesn't is the ability to put more stuff on the disc. Great for movie-to-game titles like the Lord of the Rings games from EA, but I thought gamers wanted better gameplay and control over CGI cutscenes?
I've seen the GC version. Looks good. I'm sure the GC version will look way bettter then the PS2. It was built for the GC wasn't it? why yes it was! Ha ha ha.
Yes, ha ha ha! Glad you agree with me!

[zmweasel]

I argue to you, Zach Meston, that there is no merit in bashing fanboys on the belief that frequent rubbings against the grindstone of fact will cause them to become enlightened by degrees...rather, every time one appeals to them about the good merits of other systems (and the rest of the world, as you point out), it should encourage them to think about other things more openly, rather than drive them further back into the shadows of fanboyism.

I wish I shared your belief that fanboys can be cured, but my life as a skeptic has taught me that humans have an uncanny ability to ignore all logic and reason when it threatens their world-view. Many otherwise rational adults can't be convinced of the fallacy of astrology, healing crystals, et al, and many ignorant teenagers can't be swayed from rooting for plastic (if I may mangle Seinfeld's classic "rooting for laundry" bit).

-- Z.

[Ed Oscuro]

I wish I shared your belief that fanboys can be cured, but my life as a skeptic has taught me that humans have an uncanny ability to ignore all logic and reason when it threatens their world-view.
No, not cured (I'm not that naive after all), but at least not driven further back into the dank recesses of Nintendo's dirty linens-holding cave, or wherever it is they go for comfort ;O

[Mayhem]

Years of experience have shown me that all formats seem to have roughly equal numbers of fanboys, and from what I've seen I'd say it still applies for PS2, Xbox and Cube...

[zmweasel]

Years of experience have shown me that all formats seem to have roughly equal numbers of fanboys, and from what I've seen I'd say it still applies for PS2, Xbox and Cube...

Could you ask some of those PS2 and Xbox fanboys to join this forum and prove that they exist?

-- Z.

[Ed Oscuro]

Yeah, I'm sort of wondering what manhole all those XBox fanboys fell into...I don't know anybody nearly as rabid as many Nintendo fanboys have been. PlayStation is next closest...even that's a distant second.

[Shawn Carr2o]

O_O Now i bet that Capcom will do a Resident Evil
Collection for the PS2 with eight games in a Box Set
one of these days. But only Japan will get it and
the US will have to import it. :(

Capcom Should remake RE2 & RE3 Plus RE CVX
to match the RE Remake & RE Zero which would
make more sense. :)

Of course code Veronica will have the same CG intro
& Ending. Maybe more area's to explore, plus more
CG scene's too. :-P

They will probably will add more stuff to RE4 for the
PS2 like they always do. O_O

They should put them on all three console's like,
PS2, GC & X-Box. That way you don't have to buy
every game system. :2gunfire: *_*

[ubersaurus]

Years of experience have shown me that all formats seem to have roughly equal numbers of fanboys, and from what I've seen I'd say it still applies for PS2, Xbox and Cube...

Could you ask some of those PS2 and Xbox fanboys to join this forum and prove that they exist?

-- Z.

Eh, just go hang around gamefaqs for a while. Go to the right boards, and there's armadas worth.

None of them are as scary as Neo Geo fanboys, though.

[joshnickerson]

Hey, Capcom, you forgot your knife!

It's right over here.

In Nintendo's back.


Seriously, I don't care if the game was ported to PS2. But considering how much buzz and hype was building for this "exclusive", it just seems undignified for Capcom to basically say "Hey, you COULD buy a Gamecube to play this game, but just wait a while longer and you can play it on PS2!", mere WEEKS before the GCN release.

[Ed Oscuro]

None of them are as scary as Neo Geo fanboys, though.
*What would you do for a Kizuna Cart?*[/jingle]
:evil:

[Dobie]

I have no problems with RE4 being ported to the PS2. In fact, I think it is a good thing in the long run for everybody, as it gives more gamers the chance to play this title. But I have to agree that the timing is suspect. I know this is illogical, but I SWEAR Capcom has TRIED to disenfranchise Gamecube owners lately. With this announcement, the hack-job button-swap on the Mega Man Collection (which was mysteriously absent in the PS2 version), and the refusal to port over most of their newest A-titles (Viewtiful Joe being the only exception), instead giving us Network Transmission, PN03, and *shudder* Disney Hide & Sneak.

The porting over of Resident Evil 1-3 was nice, but those games are also five years old. I eventually bought every single one, but they offered little besides (somewhat) better controls and a cleaner look (which is why I bought them to begin with, but still). And they were $29.99-39.99 at retail. Capcom then publicly wonders why their Cube ports sold so poorly, and blame it on the Cube's "low install base," instead of the too-high price point.

[lendelin]

I can't believe how many guys are loyal followers of a SYSTEM, yep, a mere SYSTEM, and therefore don't think objectively, but in categories of defense and accusation. I tell you what: you don't love a system, you love GAMES on a system. It doesn't make sense to love a PLATFORM which is just that: a PLATFORM for different games!

I liked my NES because it had great games on it which gave me hours and hours of fun.; without these games, I wouldn't have developed a love relationship.; and even love shouldn't make you blind.

A great game is a great game no matter on which console it is released. The label PS2 or GC or Xbox doesn't make a good game bad or a bad game good. Look at the game, not at the system label.

These loyalists feelings toward a platform make less sense than ever: the three systems are nowadays so similiar, they don't give you different game experiences based on hardware specs.

The influence of hardware specs on sales figures are minimal: for multi-console games, players go usually for the Xbox version becasue (as a rule) they look slightly better on the Xbox (in particular if you have a progressive scan TV). The controller layout of the different systems play a minor role, and so do the little 'extras' for some games for a platform in multi-platform releases.

What plays a big role for a great and balanced game library are the number of systems out there. Bang. Period. End of discussion. A blind man can see that. It is not the color of a system, not the approval policies of hardware manufacturers, not smart PR anymore at this stage, not hype, not "feelings" of Capcom or their preferences for a console.

Capcoms 'love' for a system is determined by their wallet; and if a third-party developer doesn't have blind love, why should we? RE 4 will look and play well on the PS2 and GC, and Microsoft would love to have it on their console, too.

The PS2 has the best and well-balanced game library with lots of 'natural' exclusives. A blind man can see that. If you don't have a PS2 today, you miss out to choose on the best game library, it is as simple as that.

Soulblazer, I'm not saying that you are a blind follower, ok? :) You don't even come close. I disagree with you, however, on the role of exclusives today. Automatic exclusives for the PS2 play a big role, we don't have a Suikoden 3, Breath of Fire, Wild Arms 3, Culdcept, Katamari Damacy, GT 3 and 4, Xenosaga, FF, Arc the Lad,............................on any other system than the PS2.

Thje incentive to buy a console like the Xbox because of Halo, Panzer Dragoon Orta, or Fable and many other exclusives are high; same goes for Metroid Prime, Zelda, and other exclusives for the GC.

If 9/10 of game releases were multi-platform, I can assure you I had only ONE system instead of three. First, it is not the case; second, the exclusives are among the best games of this generation.

About the missing Xbox fans: oh, they are out there like blind Kerry supporters and blind Bush supporters. I met a student of mine at a Best Buy, he works in the game section, and he (and one of his colleagues) tried to convince me that the Xbox has a better library than the PS2. :) Well, we had a nice discussion about it. :)

I think facts can bring a portion of blind fanboys on the objective road. Not right away, but in time; good reasoning takes time to take effect confronted with a big wall of irrational 'belief.' The big portion of blind believers will always be that...believers who look for selective facts to justify their preconceived beliefs.

Thank goodness, we on this board are smarter than that, aren't we? :)

[zmweasel]

Eh, just go hang around gamefaqs for a while. Go to the right boards, and there's armadas worth.

GameFAQs makes me pine for the days before the web, when one had to be reasonably intelligent to get online.

-- Z.

[Cobra Commander]

Indeed. I failed in trying to make the point that the GameCube has been embraced by children and fanboys, whereas the PS2 and Xbox have been embraced by teenagers, grown-ups, and people with lives.

-- Z.
I cannot believe I just read that on this site. Talk about GROSS generalization. Does no adult here take even a small exception to that?

[Daria]

Indeed. I failed in trying to make the point that the GameCube has been embraced by children and fanboys, whereas the PS2 and Xbox have been embraced by teenagers, grown-ups, and people with lives.

-- Z.
I cannot believe I just read that on this site. Talk about GROSS generalization. Does no adult here take even a small exception to that?

Well I bought a Gube for the free Zelda collector's disk so... that would put me in the fangirl catagory.

Course I also own it for games like Windwaker and any and all RPGs released for the system, again being another breed of fangirl. So uh.... can't contest personally. :P

[zmweasel]

Indeed. I failed in trying to make the point that the GameCube has been embraced by children and fanboys, whereas the PS2 and Xbox have been embraced by teenagers, grown-ups, and people with lives.

-- Z.
I cannot believe I just read that on this site. Talk about GROSS generalization. Does no adult here take even a small exception to that?

Your .sig doesn't exactly put the lie to my generalization.

-- Z.

[Ed Oscuro]

I personally wonder how anybody can argue the GC is NOT a system for kids...especially Nintendo themselves! They released it with Luigi's Mansion, and soon after comes SM Sunshine...I'm not sure what's going on in their minds, but does their marketing understand what their developers are thinking? Wind Waker was excellent, and it's one of the few current gen titles I own (and don't play anymore). The big games released for the system pretty much tend to exclude their "adult" audience from the mix of customers.

[Daria]

The big games released for the system pretty much tend to exclude their "adult" audience from the mix of customers.

What about Metroid?

[Cobra Commander]

Indeed. I failed in trying to make the point that the GameCube has been embraced by children and fanboys, whereas the PS2 and Xbox have been embraced by teenagers, grown-ups, and people with lives.

-- Z.
I cannot believe I just read that on this site. Talk about GROSS generalization. Does no adult here take even a small exception to that?

Your .sig doesn't exactly put the lie to my generalization.

-- Z.
So an NES site makes me a childlike Nintendo fanboy. That's cute. So is you're problem with Nintendo or Nintendo fans? Do you actually mean to sit there and say every Nintendo fan is a whining 2 year old baby or that they're all rabid braindead animals?

[Jasoco]

Geezus Christ. I'm shocked at how much hate there is on this forum.

I have all three systems. Because it's a free country. I CAN have all three. So I do. And I have relatively big libraries for all three with a nice variety of games for each.

I used to be a fanboy. Nintendo fanboy up until 1999/2000. Then I discovered that Nintendo wasn't the only company keeping people entertained. Now I am entertained by all three companies. So everyone just shut up.


Damnit! Why?! Damn you capcom. Although I'm not surprised. But I was when viewtiful joe got on PS2. Heh, what's next? Pikmin on PS2?That's a very uneducated remark. There's a HUGE difference between a FIRST-PARTY/SECOND-PARTY exclusive and a THIRD-PARTY exclusive.

There will NEVER be a Pikmin game on Sony or Microsoft's consoles. Same as there will NEVER be Halo on the PS2 or Cube or Sly Cooper on the Xbox or Cube. They're owned by their respective companies. Either created by the console maker themselves or a company owned by them. (i.e. Bungie)

Pikmin is created by Nintendo for Nintendo. If it was created by another company like oh, say, Capcom, then there'd be a chance.

But a game like GTA can become multi-platform because Rockstar isn't owned by Sony (Fortunately.) so eventually, most of their releases leak onto another console. (In this case, it's the Xbox usually.)

Pikmin, Metroid, Zelda, MARIO are all Nintendo's property with no chance (Aside from a licensing thing like in the 90's with the horrible Zelda CDI games. And those "Mario Teaches Typing" educational PC titles.) of a franchise like that making its way to another console until the company is out of the hardware business. (i.e. Sega and Sonic the Hedgehog.)

Blah blah blah. Whatever. Whoever. I don't care.

[zmweasel]

The big games released for the system pretty much tend to exclude their "adult" audience from the mix of customers.

What about Metroid?

Good point. Nintendo has seized upon Metroid because it's their only first-party, non-kiddie franchise. It's also a franchise more popular in America than Japan, and Nintendo desperately needs more GC games with American/adult appeal to avoid falling further behind Microsoft.

-- Z.