So how many Game Systems are there?

[Twitami]

I found a list somewhere that says not counting clones, different versions of same machines, etc, that there are 69 unique game systems. Here is the list:

1292 series (ex// Hanimex 1392)
Amiga CD32
Amiga CDtv
Amstrad GX4000
APF MP-1000
Atari 2600
Atari 5200
Atari 7800
Atari Jaguar
Atari Jaguar CD
Atari XE GS
Bally Astrocade
Bandai Playdia
Bandai/@World/AtMark/Apple Pippin
Bandai TV-Jack 8000
Capcom CPS Changer
Casio Loopy
Casio PV-1000
Coleco Telstar Arcade
ColecoVision
Commodore 64 GS
Daewoo Zemmix
Emerson Arcadia 2001
Entex Adventurevision
Epoch CassetteVision
Epoch Super CassetteVision
FairChild Channel F
FM Townes Marty
Gekken TV Boy
Hanimex 7900 and equivilent
Intertron VC4000
Magnavox Odyssey2
Mattel Intellivision
Memorex VIS
Microsoft XBOX
NEC PC-FX
NEC SuperGrafx
NEC Turbo Duo
NEC Turbo Grafx 16
NEC Turbo Grafx CD
Neo Geo AES
Neo Geo CD
Nintendo (NES)
Famicom Disk System/Twin (for japanese version of NES)
Nintendo 64
Nintendo 64DD
Nintendo GameCube
Super Nintendo
Nintendo Virtual Boy
NUON
Panasonic 3DO
Philips/Magnavox CD-I
Pioneer LaserActive
RCA Studio II
Sega 32x
Sega CD
Sega Genesis
Sega Master System
Sega Dreamcast
Sega Saturn
Sega SG-1000
Sony Playstation
Sony Playstation2
Tomy Pyu-Ta (Tutor) Jr.
Vectrex
ViewMaster InteractiveVision
Vtech Creativision

So, is that everything? And why would a system like the Original Odyssey not count? What ya think guys?


Brian

[MegaDrive20XX]

Why no portables? or are you just focusing on consoles?

Would Neo Geo CDZ count or no?

Goldstar 3DO to be added as well

Sega Mega Jet (Portable Sega MegaDrive)

Sega CDX

JVC X-Eye

Sega Nomad <-- not just a portable, but a full blown Genesis as well

And the Texas Instructment 99/TI-99

also, MSX and Sharp X68000

Turbo Express <--- portable NEC that played HuCards as well

[Twitami]

Hmm, good point on the portables...I didnt make the list, but I would think they count. They were probably talking about non-portable units I guess.

brian

[christianscott27]

its a list, a pretty good one but why fence it in? so that list counts the tommy tutor but not the vic-20 or the TI99? its really hard to draw the line between computer and game system, esp. when you're talking about stuff in the UK and Australia.

[anagrama]

And the Texas Instructment 99/TI-99

also, MSX and Sharp X68000


They're all computers rather than consoles, and if you're counting computers then there's a whole lot more besides that. Also, all the others you mention are variants of already listed systems rather than a different platform.

[anagrama]

its really hard to draw the line between computer and game system, esp. when you're talking about stuff in the UK and Australia.

Not too sure what you mean there - as far as I can tell there's almost always a pretty clear divide between computers & consoles. What's on the borderline?

[briguy578]

What's on the borderline?

Well I would have to say that the Commodore 64 and the Atari XE computers are both on the borderline, as thier parent companies both made console only versions as well as the more full-fledged computer versions.

Some would also say the Odyssey 2 is a borderline, because of its built-in keyboard [although the extreme dearth of any computer software for it makes the argument admittedly tenuous]

Basically the argument can be made for any computer that hooks up to a TV and uses carts for games to be a game system. I know thats exactly how I use my Commodore 64.

[anagrama]

What's on the borderline?

Well I would have to say that the Commodore 64 and the Atari XE computers are both on the borderline, as thier parent companies both made console only versions as well as the more full-fledged computer versions.


Sure, they can be used as games systems, but it's pretty evident (to me, anyway) that they are definitely computers as opposed to consoles. There's a bunch of other similar systems that were also released in consolised form or vice-versa - aswell - the Amiga 1200/CD32, Amstrad CPC464/GX4000, Intellivision/Adam, Sega SG1000/SC3000 etc.

At the end of the day, it's always down to a matter of personal perception - I believe the original list in this thread is from candude's list of consoles, which was compiled according to a very rigid definition of what does & doesn't classify.

[thehistorian]

was compiled according to a very rigid definition of what does & doesn't classify.

If so then I take issue withthe Virtual Boy being on there.. It is technically a portable...

[MegaDrive20XX]

And the Texas Instructment 99/TI-99

also, MSX and Sharp X68000


They're all computers rather than consoles, and if you're counting computers then there's a whole lot more besides that. Also, all the others you mention are variants of already listed systems rather than a different platform.

PC-FX?

Amiga CD32, Atari XE GS, Commdore 64 GS?

Aren't those all computers as well?

I'll list the variants, because he put the add-ons for the Sega Genesis as well, so why not?

[vintagegamecrazy]

I say incomplete as woe. The viewmaster intertactive vision is there, so why no Action Max, the 1292 systems are there, so why to Telstar Arcade, and Odyssey? Computer wise, why no Aquarius, Spectravideo, Commodore Plus/4, TRS 80, Dragon 32, PC Jr? I'll think of more and then post them.

[Ed Oscuro]

PC-FX?

Amiga CD32, Atari XE GS, Commdore 64 GS?

Aren't those all computers as well?

I'll list the variants, because he put the add-ons for the Sega Genesis as well, so why not?
Those are all most certainly consoles. The PC-FX NEVER was a computer in any way, shape, or form, no more than the PC-Engine was.

BTW this list is a pile of garbage. Super A'Can, anybody? Oh yeah, maybe it's because we're too good to list those cheap Taiwanese systems, even though it's a completely original system with legally produced/licensed titles x_x

That's just in addition to everything VintageGameCrazy wrote.

What the hell is the N64 DD doing on that list if we aren't counting variations on the same theme? It has no business being on there whatsoever.

Bullshit @ that.

[MegaDrive20XX]

PC-FX?

Amiga CD32, Atari XE GS, Commdore 64 GS?

Aren't those all computers as well?

I'll list the variants, because he put the add-ons for the Sega Genesis as well, so why not?
Those are all most certainly consoles. The PC-FX NEVER was a computer in any way, shape, or form, no more than the PC-Engine was.

BTW this list is a pile of garbage. Super A'Can, anybody? Oh yeah, maybe it's because we're too good to list those cheap Taiwanese systems, even though it's a completely original system with legally produced/licensed titles x_x

That's just in addition to everything VintageGameCrazy wrote.

What the hell is the N64 DD doing on that list if we aren't counting variations on the same theme? It has no business being on there whatsoever.

Bullshit @ that.

or the Famicom Disk Drive/Famicom Twin for that matter now that you mention it

Thanks for clearing up about the PC-FX, I've only seen one, so I wasn't too sure

[Ed Oscuro]

FDS should count if N64 DD does, but according to the rules it seems neither should as they're just accessories.

Famicom Twin is just a variation...nothing special (in terms of the list that is). Should be lumped in there with FC/FDS.

[anagrama]

At the end of the day, no-one is going to be able to come up with a definitive list that everyone will agree on - there's just too many exceptions to any rule you can think of, and oddball systems that don't really fir in anywhere.

[Ed Oscuro]

Key is to be INclusive rather than EXclusive, I'd say. Keeps some of the resentment down :)

[anagrama]

Take it up with candude then, not me (assuming that this is based on his list?).

[Ed Oscuro]

Why would I be angry at you about it? I'm just saying what I think is a reasonable goal for making lists.

This list most certainly is NOT Can Dude's, seeing how the Super A'Can isn't on there. Dead giveaway.

[Leo_A]

" Intellivision/Adam"

They're not related in any way. If you mean Colecovision and Adam, a Colecovision is a game system, and a ADAM is a computer. The Colecovision can be made into a game system with the ADAM attachment however.

[Anexanhume]

At least there's no dispute over the craploads of pong systems that surfaced :D

[anagrama]

" Intellivision/Adam"

They're not related in any way. If you mean Colecovision and Adam, a Colecovision is a game system, and a ADAM is a computer. The Colecovision can be made into a game system with the ADAM attachment however.

Duh. Quite right, my bad ;) I was just referring to different computer/console equivalents.

And sorry Ed, not sure what I was getting at there.

[Ed Oscuro]

I have those moments, and often, so no troubles there :)

[nesgamer]

What is a N64DD?

[Dreamscape]

After excluding stand alone computers, clones, variations, and handhelds, and allowing add ons (Sega CD, N64DD, etc.) and "computer consoles" (Amiga CD32, FM Towns Marty, Daewoo Zemmix, etc.) I came up with this list.

Amiga CD32
Amiga CDTV
Amstrad GX4000
APF MP-1000
Atari 2600
Atari 5200
Atari 7800
Atari XEGS
Atari Jaguar
Atari Jaguar CD
Bally Astrocade
Bandai TV Jack-5000
Bandai TV Jack-8000
Bandai Pippin
Bandai Playdia
Casio Loopy
Casio PV-1000
Coleco Colecovision
Commodore 64GS
Capcom CPS Changer
Daewoo Zemmix
Emerson Arcadia 2001
Entex Adventure Vision
Epoch Cassettevision
Epoch Super Cassettevision
Fairchild Channel F
Fairchild Channel F2
FM Towns Marty
Funtech Super A’Can
Gakken Compactvision TV Boy
GCE Vectrex
HGS Electronic Telesports (PC-50X Systems)
Interton VC-4000 (1292 Systems)
Mattel Intellivision
Magnavox Odyssey
Magnavox Odyssey2/Videopac
Memorex VIS
Microsoft XBOX
NEC PC Engine/Turbo Grafx 16
NEC PC Engine CD/Turbo CD
NEC PC Engine Duo/Turbo Duo
NEC PC Engine Super Grafx
NEC PC-FX
Nintendo Famicom/NES
Nintendo Famicom Disk system
Nintendo Super Famicom/Super Nintendo
Nintendo VirtualBoy
Nintendo 64
Nintendo 64DD
Nintendo GameCube
NUON
Panasonic 3DO
Phillips Tele-Spiel ES-2201
Phillips Magnavox CD-i
RCA Studio II
RDI Halcyon
Sega SG-1000
Sega Mark III/Master System
Sega MegaDrive/Genesis
Sega MegaCD/CD
Sega Mega 32X/32X
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
SNK Neo Geo
SNK Neo Geo CD
Sony Playstation
Sony Playstation 2
Soundic Soundicvision SD-200 (SD-20XX Systems)
ViewMaster InteractiVision
Vtech Creativision
Vtech Socrates
Worlds of Wonder Action Max

[Ed Oscuro]

What is a N64DD?
It's not green.

It's somewhat like an Iomega ZIP disc drive for your N64, far as I can tell. Bigger games of course. Load times, though. Probably not bad ones though.

[Ed Oscuro]

After excluding stand alone computers, clones, variations, and handhelds, and allowing add ons (Sega CD, N64DD, etc.) and "computer consoles" (Amiga CD32, FM Towns Marty, Daewoo Zemmix, etc.) I came up with this list.
Still forgot the Super A'Can! ROFL

[Dreamscape]

After excluding stand alone computers, clones, variations, and handhelds, and allowing add ons (Sega CD, N64DD, etc.) and "computer consoles" (Amiga CD32, FM Towns Marty, Daewoo Zemmix, etc.) I came up with this list.
Still forgot the Super A'Can! ROFL

No I didn't. Read it again, I put it on the list as Funtech Super A'Can.

[Evil E]

What about the Commodore VIC 20??

[Dreamscape]

What about the Commodore VIC 20??

Read my post again.

[Ed Oscuro]

No I didn't. Read it again, I put it on the list as Funtech Super A'Can.
My bad. Did a quick scroll through with Ctrl+F and didn't see it for some reason >.<

[drdrew1469]

If so then I take issue withthe Virtual Boy being on there.. It is technically a portable...

LOL I would love to look over and see some kid playing the vb in the backseat while his parents are cruising down the highway LOL :P