DreamOn - European Dreamcast Magazine Demos.... question

[Perkar]

yo,

so, i'm starting to look into the PAL exclusive games and oddities for DC, as i'm getting close to finishing the US set. which brings me to this problem....

In Europe there were the DreamOn Magazine Demo Disks... 22 of them, to be exact. now, i seem to be finding conflicting information on them. some say the disks all came loose, others say with slimline jewel cases and an insert card.... So what is the real deal with these things? did they come disk only? can any Euro folk help me out here? somebody must have some of these disks.

please help me shed some light on this :)

[Cauterize]

i have about 15 of them....
all came in slimline cases except issue 2 for some reason, that came in a normal size cd case...
the inserts were just covers for the cases really...
i think the guy Articus (cant spell i t right) on this forum, his website has them all on with pics, (except DreamOn 3.. which i have in my collection :evil: :evil: :evil: )

[tom]

Those came with the Official Dreamcast Magazine. There are 21 Dreamon GDs, as the first issue of the magazine featured a video instead of a CD. I have all GDs and the video. The numbering is: Issue 0: video, issues 1- 21: GDs

We also had DC-UK issues 1 - 20, this magazine featured 2 CDs over the time: Fur Fighters Demo Disc, and Action Replay CDX Demo version

We also had Dreamcast Magazine Issues 1 -34, which had books and 1 CD over the time: Dreamcast Magazine Audio CD

Further we had Dreamcast Monthly (I only have issues 1 + 2) and Mr. Dreamcast (lasted 2 issues, I have both), neither had CDs covermounted.

[hydr0x]

there is no correct answer to your question, let me explain ;)

in the UK on ODM you got disc 1-21 in sleeves, in germany there were less dreamons because the mag didn't run that long iirc, in germany they came in slimline cases with the exception of nr2 that came in a normal case

disc 22 was available from dreamarena i think, not sure about that, gotta ask arcturius about that (dcarchive.scalenet.co.uk)

you've also got the DreamOn Collection Vol.1 -4 not sure how you could get those and of course the discs tom mentioned

[anagrama]

Issue #15 of the UK ODM came with 2 discs - the DreamOn demo and Planet Ring in a standard CD case. Also, the last issue of the UK ODM had no coverdisk.

[Perkar]

thanks for all your answers, this is helping me immensely.... another quick question. i was checking out www.dreamcasthistory.com, and there are scans of all the DreamOn disks, there.... all of them seem to have covers and/or insert cards, except the first disk, which has only a slimline jewel. did that have an insert? thanks

[tom]

Weird, my last issue of UK ODM has a GD, and it is like a 'Best of' CD, eg demos of previous issues.

[tom]

Her's a little rundown on UK ODM demo CDs:


Dreamcast -The official Magazine-................Dennis Publishing
issues from 0 -21, with cover CDs called ‘Dreamon’
Issue 0: DC introduction video (Dreamon 1).
Issue 1, CD 1 (Dreamon 2): playable: Sonic Adventure, Millennium Soldier. Non-playable: Toy Commander, Speed Devils, Hydro Thunder, Buggy Heat, Suzuki Alstare
Issue 2, CD 2 (Dreamon 3): playable: Buggy Heat, Dynamite Cop. Non-playable: Soul Calibur, NFL Blitz, F1 World Grand Prix
Issue 3, CD 3 (Dreamon 4): playable: Toy Commander Xmas version, F1 Grand Prix, Snow Surfers, Suzuki Alstare. Non-playable: Worldwide Soccer 2000, Soul Fighter, Evolution, MSR
Issue 4, CD 4 (Dreamon 5): playable: Re-Volt, Sega Worldwide Soccer 2000. N-p: Crazy Taxi, Rayman 2, Deadly Skies
Issue 5, CD 5 (Dreamon 6): playable: Rayman 2, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Red Dog. N-p: Virtua Striker 2, NBA 2K, Slave Zero. Slide show: Ecco the Dolphin
Issue 6, CD 6 (Dreamon 7): playable: MDK2, Slave Zero. N-p: MSR, Soul Reaver, Wild Metal, 4-Wheel Thunder, Heroes of Might and Magic III, Deep Fighter
Issue 7, CD 7 (Dreamon 8): playable: Rayman 2, Soul Reaver. N-p: Hidden & Dangerous, V-Rally, Jo Jo’s Bizarre Adventure, Wetrix, Giga Wing. Full game: Sega Swirl
Issue 8, CD 8 (Dreamon 9): playable: Fur Fighters, V-Rally, Sega Worldwide Soccer Euro Edition, 4-Wheel Thunder. N-p: Ecco the Dolphin, Star Wars Episode 1: Racer
Issue 9, CD 9 (Dreamon 10): playable: Resident Evil Code: Veronica, Tony Hawk’s Skateboarding, Silver. N-p: Dead or Alive 2, Dreamarena Tour
Issue 10, CD 10 (Dreamon 11): playable: Wacky Races, Super Magnetic Neo, Toy Commander Summer Demo. N-p: Virtua Tennis, Space Channel 5, NHL 2K, Marvel vs Capcom
Issue 11, CD11 (Dreamon 12): playable: Virua Tennis, F1 World Grand Prix 2, Gauntlet Legends. N-p: Virtua Athlete, Power Stone 2, Aerowings 2
Issue 12, CD 12 (Dreamon 13): playable: MSR, Sydney 2000, Space Channel 5, Wacky Races. N-p: F-355 Challenge, WWF Royal Rumble, Pod 2, Sydney 2000
Issue 13, CD 13 (Dreamon 14): playable: Ultimate Fighting Championship, Sega Extreme Sports, San Francisco Rush 2049, Railroad Tycoon II, Tokyo Highway Challenge 2, Sydney 2000. N-p: Le Mans 24 Hours, R2R: Round 2, Sega Worldwide Soccer 2001
Issue 14, CD 14 (Dreamon 15): playable: Jet Set Radio, Silent Scope, Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2, UEFA Dream Soccer, Pod 2, Kao the Kangaroo. N-p: Shenmue, R2R: Round 2, Super Runabout, Looney Tunes: Space Race, European Super League
Issue 15, CD 15 (Dreamon 16): playable: Looney Tunes Space Race, Speed Devils Online Racing, Super Runabout, Army Men Sarge’s Heroes, Toy Commander 3 special stages. N-p: Phantasy Star Online, Grandia 2, Stupid Invaders
Issue 16, CD 16 (Dreamon 17): playable: Disney’s Donald Duck Quack Attack, Kiss Psycho Circus, Stupid Invaders, Ultimate Fighting Championship, Tokyo Highway Challenge. N-p: Half-Life, Spawn
Issue 17, CD 17 (Dreamon 18): playable: Sega Extreme Sports, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX, Ducati World Superbikes, Virtua Tennis. N-p: Fighting Vipers 2, Le Mans 24 Hours. Full Game: Sega Swirl
Issue 18, CD 18 (Dreamon 19): playable: European Super League, Giant Killers, Jet Set Radio. N-p: Confidential Mission, Skies of Arcadia, Sonic Shuffle, Grandia II, Project Justice, Surf Rocket Racers
Issue 19, CD 19 (Dreamon 20): playable: Skies of Arcadia, 18 Wheeler. N-p: Shenmue 2, Crazy Taxi 2, Daytona USA 2001, Outtrigger, Confidential Mission
Issue 20, CD 20 (Dreamon 21): playable: Daytona USA 2001, Confidential Mission, 18 Wheeler. N-p: Alone in the Dark, Crazy Taxi 2, Daytona USA 2001
Issue 21, CD 21 (Dreamon 22): playable: Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2, MSR, Space Channel 5, Virtua Tennis, Sonic Adventure, Jet Set Radio, Ultimate Fighting Championship, Toy Commander, R2R Boxing.

DC-UK -The Dreamcast Magazine- ...........Future Publishing
issues 1 to 20
Cover video: (with issue 1): movies of: Trick Style, Power Stone, GTA 2 and more
Cover CD 1: (with issue 10): Furfighters Demo Disc includes Singleplayer Demo, Multiplayer Demo, Rolling Demo
Cover CD 2: (with issue 11): Action Replay CDX Demo Version, doubles as a multi-region start-up disc
One DC-UK issue had a cover mounted ‘cheat book’ called ‘The Knowledge’

Dreamcast Magazine..................Paragon Publishing
issues 1 to 34 (longest lasting DC magazine?)
no cover CDs, issues 4, 7, 8 had cover mounted ‘cheat books’, maybe other issues too, one issue had the audio CD

Mr. Dreamcast..........................Magical Media
issues 1 to 2
no cover CDs, issue 1 had a free ‘Furfighters miniature Water Pistol’

Dreamcast monthly...................Quay Magazine Publishing
issues 1 - ?
no cover CDs

[Perkar]

Her's a little rundown on UK ODM demo CDs:

holy shit tom, that list is great, thanks! \m/

i'm still looking for a confirmation of whether each and every dreamon had an insert for the case. no one can verify?

[tom]

How you mean, 'an insert'? like a front and back cover?

My stuff is in storage in the UK at the moment, as I am moving to Germany on Sunday 7th. (from France, where I am at the moment).

All my stuff gets sent over to Germany by Feb 2005, so I cannot help you, only from memory (not the best)

As mentioned above, CD 1 (issue 2) came in a 'normal' CD jewel case, others came in a slimline jewel case (as used for music singles). Inserts were just front covers, as far as I can remember.

[tom]

Although Dreamon CD 1 on DChistory.com has me stumped, I have never seen it. I have all issues, CDs and the video, so this needs investigating.....

[hydr0x]

tom if you have the UK ODM, then why did your dreamons come in jewel cases? this can't be true, uk issues came with sleeves, german issues came with jewel cases...

and about the DreamOn 1, i don't know where it comes from (maybe german odm) but i have it

[anagrama]

Weird, my last issue of UK ODM has a GD, and it is like a 'Best of' CD, eg demos of previous issues.

Which issue is that?
I know one of the late ones had a 'best of' demo, but I'm 90% sure that the last (or certainly one of the very late ones) was disc-less. I think the mag was £1 cheaper as a result.

Can't check now unfortunately, since I sold all mine to hydr0x. D'ya wanna prove me right/wrong, Jan? ;)

[hydr0x]

last UK ODM i have:

Issue 21, July/August 2001 £4.99

disc included: DreamOn Vol. 22
http://dcarchive.scalenet.co.uk/DO22.html

[anagrama]

eh... no idea what I was thinking of then... :hmm: Just ignore me ;)

[Perkar]

How you mean, 'an insert'? like a front and back cover?

My stuff is in storage in the UK at the moment, as I am moving to Germany on Sunday 7th. (from France, where I am at the moment).

All my stuff gets sent over to Germany by Feb 2005, so I cannot help you, only from memory (not the best)

As mentioned above, CD 1 (issue 2) came in a 'normal' CD jewel case, others came in a slimline jewel case (as used for music singles). Inserts were just front covers, as far as I can remember.


yes, i do mean a cover... although the slimline jewels accomodate for only a front cover. this Dreamon business is one giant mess.... @_@

[tom]

To HyDrox question:

click on the link below, on the DChistory.com site:
That is how the UK Dreamon discs came in, a slimline jewel case.

http://www.dreamcasthistory.com/pics/demoseuro/dreamon22.jpg

but also 3 or 4 CDs came in a cardboard sleeve for some reason, so you are right as well (Don't forget I am writing this from memory, all my stuff is still in the UK until Feb.)


to anagrama:

look at my listing for last issue of ODM, CD #22

[pr8cjb]

Well according to http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8142426027&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT they're all in jewel cases. If this thread hasn't died by the time they arrive I'll confirm it.

[tom]

Of course,
France had a Official? Dreamcast magazine too, with cover CDs. Haven't found any issues yet, and I don't think I will.

[Perkar]

Well according to http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8142426027&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT they're all in jewel cases. If this thread hasn't died by the time they arrive I'll confirm it.

holy hell that was a nice auction. worded kind weird in the subject. nice find for true.

PLEASE PLEASE let us know when you receive them if they are all complete with inserts/covers and whatnot, and even better, if you could detail which ones are in slimlines, and which standard. THANKS!!

[anagrama]

Heh. Think I've remembered what I was confusing it with - the last issue of ancient Amiga/ST/PC mag Zero was missing the usual coverdisk and was cheaper than normal.
No idea how I got them mixed up though, since they were about 10 years apart :roll: LOL

[tom]

Yes, I do that sometimes, but usually I have my stuff in my room, so I can always check. For now I have to wait until Feb 2005.

But I do remember now........

1 UK ODM (Dreamon 2) came in a 'normal' jewel case
18 UK ODM came in a slimline jewel case
2 UK ODM came in a cardboard sleeve
plus one video (Dreamon 1)

I lived in the UK for 17 years, and own 1500 UK gaming magazines (they all gotta be shipped to Germany), so it is normal to get things mixed up sometimes......

[pr8cjb]

PLEASE PLEASE let us know when you receive them if they are all complete with inserts/covers and whatnot, and even better, if you could detail which ones are in slimlines, and which standard. THANKS!!

I placed that bid late at night and then spent the next day wondering whether I should have taken the £28 BIN or not, as I was still at work when it ended. I e-mailed the seller and he says they are UK DreamOn discs - I'll post the results when the parcel arrives (fingers crossed for Monday but I doubt it).

[pr8cjb]

Finally arrived and everything looks complete and good, although a few of the cases have small cracks.

They are ALL in slimline cases with clear backs, except for the first 2:

DreamOn Vol. 2 is in a standard case with the inner (the bit that holds the CD) in clear plastic.

DreamOn Vol. 1 is in a standard case with one of those flip-over middles that lets it hold 2 CDs. One is the demo disc, the other is a DreamKey disc.

[Perkar]

Finally arrived and everything looks complete and good, although a few of the cases have small cracks.

They are ALL in slimline cases with clear backs, except for the first 2:

DreamOn Vol. 2 is in a standard case with the inner (the bit that holds the CD) in clear plastic.

DreamOn Vol. 1 is in a standard case with one of those flip-over middles that lets it hold 2 CDs. One is the demo disc, the other is a DreamKey disc.

many thanks for this definitive answer... now i need to start hunting these bitches down =)

[Perkar]

Finally arrived and everything looks complete and good, although a few of the cases have small cracks.

They are ALL in slimline cases with clear backs, except for the first 2:

DreamOn Vol. 2 is in a standard case with the inner (the bit that holds the CD) in clear plastic.

DreamOn Vol. 1 is in a standard case with one of those flip-over middles that lets it hold 2 CDs. One is the demo disc, the other is a DreamKey disc.


i'm bringing this thread back from the grave here....

i recently acquired myself a copy of DreamOn Vol.1 with DreamKey.... but i think for some reaosn i saw a packaging for DreamOn v.1 without dreamkey, like all the other ones.... i just can't find any info on it now. anyone know anything more about the DreamOn disks, particularly vol.1??? any help would be much appreciated.