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suppafly
11-03-2004, 04:26 PM
What do you think guys? It says the game is in stock! Under 10 dollars!

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6770110&cart=212844334&style=games&Bab=D

Captain Wrong
11-03-2004, 04:30 PM
Either they have their facts mixed up, or they're selling a burn as Half-Life only leaked out on the web a while ago and was never commercially avaliable.

suppafly
11-03-2004, 04:32 PM
Hmmm I just read one of the comments in that website...theyre actually selling a HALF LIFE FOR DREAMCAST strategy guide...talk about a rare item!! A guide for a game that never came out!! I might get one :D

tritium
11-03-2004, 04:32 PM
Someone posted on that website aobut it, it's the strategy guide.

-Tritium

autobotracing
11-03-2004, 04:34 PM
pirate versions and very few protos exist

kai123
11-03-2004, 04:37 PM
pirate versions and very few protos exist


I downloaded the full version from Suprnova. It is very complete and very fun to play. I won't understand why they didn't just go ahead and release it. The load times are not nearly as bad as some make it out to be.

tritium
11-03-2004, 04:41 PM
Man those proto's have got to be valuable....

-Tritium

SoulBlazer
11-03-2004, 04:48 PM
The guide for the game, though, WAS released. They only had it out for a few days before the copies were yanked and destroyed. I've seen a few sell on EBay for good prices.

GrayFox
11-03-2004, 05:11 PM
The guide for the game, though, WAS released. They only had it out for a few days before the copies were yanked and destroyed. I've seen a few sell on EBay for good prices.

Guides on ebay, or the game? I've heard conflicting reports that some people out there actually snagged a copy of Half Life for DC before they were yanked. I have absolutely no idea if this is true, but it would be interesting if it was.

SoulBlazer
11-03-2004, 05:52 PM
The guide. I've seen the auctions on EBay myself, and they are even listed in Prima's online listing.

The game, though -- I suspect a few finished copies were floating around, given to magazines and the like. That's how the game was bootlegged, after all. ;)

tritium
11-03-2004, 05:58 PM
Too bad they dont allow betas or protos out on ebay.. I'd love to get ahold of some dreamcast protos.

-Tritium

SegaAges
11-03-2004, 06:01 PM
I've had the bootleg for dc for awhile now.

it would not be that hard to make a bootleg copy and make it look legit. hell, i did that for years. since the dc doesn't need a chip either, it would make it that much harder to tell.

tritium
11-03-2004, 06:05 PM
Woudln't the "official" prototypes be on GD-ROM rather than CD-ROM?

-Tritium

kainemaxwell
11-03-2004, 06:06 PM
pirate versions and very few protos exist


I downloaded the full version from Suprnova. It is very complete and very fun to play. I won't understand why they didn't just go ahead and release it. The load times are not nearly as bad as some make it out to be.

I belive if it wasn't for being cancelled, reducing the load times and implimenting compression for VMU saves would have been finished.

Let's be a bit careful what we say here about HL for DC so we don't get this topic closed.

SegaAges
11-03-2004, 06:08 PM
yeah, the protos would be on a gd-rom. i am saying that pirates can easily fake it into looking like a regular game.

the only thing that was officially release about this game, was the strategy guide like somebody has already said

Richter
11-03-2004, 09:19 PM
pirate versions and very few protos exist


I downloaded the full version from Suprnova. It is very complete and very fun to play. I won't understand why they didn't just go ahead and release it. The load times are not nearly as bad as some make it out to be.why wasnt it released?

Ed Oscuro
11-03-2004, 09:24 PM
There are theories...one conspiracy theory holds that Sony told Valve the game wouldn't be allowed to come out on the PS2 if it came out on the DreamCast.

Supposedly.

maxlords
11-03-2004, 09:51 PM
The game was finished for DC, but was NOT printed in a final form at all. Only protos and betas exist. However, both the guide AND the official cases WERE printed....but most of the official cases were destroyed. The same goes for Shenmue 2 (US version) and Propellor Arena. The cases were all finished, but the games were never printed. Sega printed cases and manuals in Canada then shipped them to the US to put discs in.

goatdan
11-03-2004, 10:19 PM
Woudln't the "official" prototypes be on GD-ROM rather than CD-ROM?

Probably not. The Dreamcast was made with the feature of being able to play prototypes on CD-ROM on systems... which incidentally opened the door for everyone to pirate software for the Dreamcast, but also opened the door for independant publishers to create games for the system.


There are theories...one conspiracy theory holds that Sony told Valve the game wouldn't be allowed to come out on the PS2 if it came out on the DreamCast.

The reason that I was told by about as good of a source as you can get is that the Dreamcast version didn't come out because it would be pirated too easily and would therefore hurt the sales of other console versions of the game.


The game was finished for DC, but was NOT printed in a final form at all. Only protos and betas exist. However, both the guide AND the official cases WERE printed....but most of the official cases were destroyed. The same goes for Shenmue 2 (US version) and Propellor Arena. The cases were all finished, but the games were never printed. Sega printed cases and manuals in Canada then shipped them to the US to put discs in.

This is incorrect. The guide was printed, but the cases were not. If the cases for any disc media are printed in Canada and imported, the US Government requires that you _must_ put the phrase "MADE IN CANADA" on the package. You cannot even change that to "Printed in Canada" or anything like that.

I'm dealing with this right now (ironically) with the publication of the two Dreamcast games Maqiupai and Inhabitants. The first pressing company was located in the United States, but the second one is in Canada. We would have to work with their US branch if we didn't want those words to appear on the packaging, so we will be doing this in the future -- Made in Canada is misleading when some of the games were are publishing aren't even being programmed in North America! But there is no way around this law.

The cases that have popped up are cases that were made by pirates to sell the game on eBay or whatever.

SoulBlazer
11-03-2004, 10:43 PM
And there's a third susepected reason -- Sierra decided the DC was dying and that it just did'nt justify the expense of releasing the game. They figured it would look bad, sell poorly, and affect other ports such as the PS2 one.

Probaly a combonation of all three.

anagrama
11-04-2004, 05:34 AM
I reckon it's a pretty safe bet that Sony just gave them a shitload of money to make it PS2-exclusive. Bear in mind that this was the PS2's early days and it was desperately struggling for quality software.

digitalpress
11-04-2004, 07:39 AM
What do you think guys? It says the game is in stock! Under 10 dollars!

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6770110&cart=212844334&style=games&Bab=D

Lookee here:
http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=42375

jdc
11-04-2004, 08:07 AM
The facts are simple.

The guide was finished. So was the game....in it's entirety. It was never shipped.

Don't ask me why....but as a Sega dealer, that's what I was told. Made me scratch MY head too.

Jive3D
11-04-2004, 10:16 AM
All things aside, the DC version of the game is totally awesome. It's the only version that I have played and I love it.

vespertillio
11-04-2004, 12:50 PM
I have played this as well as the 2nd scenario that comes with it (the Blue shift or somthing like that) a while ago. It was awesome. The load times were a little annoying, but overall this was an incredible port. I have the strategy guide as well. I don't know what everyone elses looks like but mine is black and white (other than the cover) and a little smaller than some of the other guides I have. Overall, awesome game. I highly recommend finding it. :D

allsport11
11-04-2004, 03:30 PM
What do you think guys? It says the game is in stock! Under 10 dollars!

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6770110&cart=212844334&style=games&Bab=D

Lookee here:
http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=42375

Hey, Half Life is not listed in the rarity guide for the PS2. ;)