To open, or not to open?

[gamemaster5378]

I have a brand new sealed copy of Shatterhand for the NES. This is a really fun game and I want to play it. How much woud the value go down if I opend it?

[Canadian Psycho]

I'm no expert in sealed games, but I don't think Shatterhand is worth very much more sealed than complete. Sealed NES games that seem to be worth a lot are not the uncommon titles like Shatterhand, but rather the bonafide classics, but common games, like Zelda, Final Fantasy, Contra, MTPO and the like. I might be mistaken though. IMO, you should open it and play it, that is, unless you want to start collecting sealed NES games (good luck with that!)

[gamemaster5378]

So your'e saying that a seald game like Super Mario Bros. would be worth more?

[stuffedmonkey]

I never liked the idea of sealed games personally. It's like sealed action figures or stuffed animals with the tags still on. If you buy an item that was intended to be fun, and you leave it on a shelf in its original packaging - that isn't fun for me.

It is your money! If you want to play it - I say play it :)

[Rogmeister]

Open that sucker! :D

[Griking]

I'd recommend leaving it sealed and buying a loose copy if you want to play it. You can find a loose copy for only a few bucks.

[gamemaster5378]

Thanks. IM OPENING IT!!! :evil:

[Rogmeister]

He fell for it! :D LOL

[Nesmaster]

I'd recommend leaving it sealed and buying a loose copy if you want to play it. You can find a loose copy for only a few bucks.

thats exactly what i would do. no point in opening a sealed game if loose can be had for like $2

[charitycasegreg]

If its worth money sealed sell it on ebay, then just buy a complete version on ebay.

Say its worth 5 complete, and 20 sealed. Sell the sealed for 20, buy a new complete for 5. 15 extra bucks, the smartest way to go... unless you would rather lose money but have the joy of opening a new nes game, I love opening them, only if they are common of course.

[Evil E]

I'd recommend leaving it sealed and buying a loose copy if you want to play it. You can find a loose copy for only a few bucks.

I agree

[Promophile]

I'd recommend leaving it sealed and buying a loose copy if you want to play it. You can find a loose copy for only a few bucks.

I agree

ditto. No reason to make sealed games any rarer then they are.

[NintendoMan]

Well the game sealed is only worth tops $20, but can usually find it on ebay for like $10 sometimes.
Go ahead and open it, it's not worth anything sealed.

[NintendoMan]

I never liked the idea of sealed games personally. It's like sealed action figures or stuffed animals with the tags still on.

Well unless your into playing with your action figures, depending on the case, which most have pretty cool packaging, I think action figures left in their sealed boxes are better off.
(Plus they are always going to be worth more that way, unless you don't care about that)

[Nubiandaze]

I agree with Griking and a few other of you. Keep it sealed and but a loose copy of it cheap. It is nice keeping something sealed.

Nubian.

[Nubiandaze]

I agree with Griking and a few other of you. Keep it sealed and but a loose copy of it cheap. It is nice keeping something sealed.

Nubian.

[NESaholic]

If i find a sealed i wouldn't open it, just buy it loose and when your done playing it you can sell it and buy a game you like.
I have some sealed games and sometimes my hands itch, still i want them to stay in perfect shape,so after rethinking it stays sealed! :)

[jdc]

LOL.

I have a sealed copy of Exodus Ultima for the NES. I can go to the local shop and get a loose copy right now....but I'd love the thrill of opening a sealed NES game. Then I think about that 5 second thrill, and I'd rather enjoy the fact that it sits on my shelf sealed, ONLY because I can get it loose for cheap.

Depends on what title it is. I just bought a sealed copy of Hexen for the N64. I opened it as soon as I got home. That night I also got a sealed copy of NFL QB Club 2000 for the Dreamcast. I'll leave that one sealed because if I open it, I won't play it anyways. I have a sealed copy of Darkstone for the PSX. One day I will open it because I will play it.

[rbudrick]

I'd recommend leaving it sealed and buying a loose copy if you want to play it. You can find a loose copy for only a few bucks.

Same here. Some people don't like the idea of sealed games, and that's fine. But someday you might, and then you won't have any because you opened them all. :D

Shatterhand is awesome. It takes some practice to beat, but once you get it down, it's just a little more difficult than Batman.

Sealed games just look great in something like a little display case in a game room. Any sealed games I own I also have another copy I play.

In a few years, finding sealed games is going to be damn near impossible, especially the semi rare to rare and up thrid party titles and such.

-Rob

[Kamino]

*gets his box cutter out*
IMO, collectors of only sealed games, who never open those sealed games, may as well collect stamps and leave us something to enjoy.
But that's just me. Some people do see it in the same way as rare stamps, just an investment, and that's fine for them.......
anyways, open it. shatterhand is a great game.

[NintendoMan]

*gets his box cutter out*
IMO, collectors of only sealed games, who never open those sealed games, may as well collect stamps and leave us something to enjoy.

That statement really makes no sense at all?? So someone that collects cars, you are going to tell them to start collecting Lawnmowers instead. That's in the same category of me collecting stamps instead of videogames.

And by the way, so what would you do with that sealed copy of Zelda for the NES that I have?? That I am obviously not doing.

Your telling me you would open it?? That's what your basically saying.

I collect sealed games, particularly NES games, because it's something else for me to collect. I of course collect loose NES games as well, it's just with sealed games it gives me that extra feeling of Nostaglia(Didn't spell that right I think) And to me they look pretty damn cool. Nowadays I can only afford like one sealed game every 2 months or so, but that's just how it is on ebay knowadays. And I don't have any more money than any other person on here. And every game that I have sealed, I have a loose copy to play.

[Kamino]

*gets his box cutter out*
IMO, collectors of only sealed games, who never open those sealed games, may as well collect stamps and leave us something to enjoy.

That statement really makes no sense at all?? So someone that collects cars, you are going to tell them to start collecting Lawnmowers instead. That's in the same category of me collecting stamps instead of videogames.

And by the way, so what would you do with that sealed copy of Zelda for the NES that I have?? That I am obviously not doing.

Your telling me you would open it?? That's what your basically saying.

I collect sealed games, particularly NES games, because it's something else for me to collect. I of course collect loose NES games as well, it's just with sealed games it gives me that extra feeling of Nostaglia(Didn't spell that right I think) And to me they look pretty damn cool. Nowadays I can only afford like one sealed game every 2 months or so, but that's just how it is on ebay knowadays. And I don't have any more money than any other person on here. And every game that I have sealed, I have a loose copy to play.

You just stated you do have a loose copy to play. Therefore, I was not targeting you.
I was targeting those who only have sealed games. Nothing out of it's shrinkwrap. What's the point? I wave this finger at people who only collect sealed "anything", though; action figures, records, whatever it is, If you're just collecting sealed "anything" and putting it on a shelf, then you're more in it for "investing" than enjoying the items. Go play the stock market or something, and leave the rest of us with the games/lawnmowers/action figures. I want to beat contra/my lawn needs mowing/my dog needs a chew toy.

Edit 2: I just realised, how the hell do you collect sealed cars or lawnmowers?!?!?! O_O that kinda missed the mark there, dude..

[Nubiandaze]

Hey All,
Just following on from my last post. I have around 14 NOS Nintendo Game & Watch games. I bring them out occasionally and look at them and would priobably play them for 10 minutes once a year. Some people just may not understand how cool it is to have a sealed or NOS game. (I agree it''s nostaligic.)

I have been collectinf retro games now for around 2 and a half years. I'm 31 and owning something from my childhood such as a NOS Donkey Kong game & watch is quite something. I don''t like to throw this word around, unless I'm talking about girls, but these sealed games are as close to 'beautiful' as it comes.

I also own a limited edition Vectrex game called Protector. I handle the overlay so carefully when opening it and I'm almost considering buying gloves when handling my NOS Game & Watch games (not really but close). It's not just because these games are valuable in money terms but there's something really great about having games NOS or Sealed.

Cheers to all others of you who really like Sealed or NOS games. I guess you have to have been into videogames for a couple of generations to appreciate this.

Regards,

Nubian.

[Cauterize]

hmmm sealed games....

i think theyre nioce, but games are meant to be played...

i cant decide!

[NintendoMan]

hmmm sealed games....

i think theyre nioce, but games are meant to be played...

i cant decide!

HEY, Do both! :)

[NintendoMan]

*gets his box cutter out*
IMO, collectors of only sealed games, who never open those sealed games, may as well collect stamps and leave us something to enjoy.

That statement really makes no sense at all?? So someone that collects cars, you are going to tell them to start collecting Lawnmowers instead. That's in the same category of me collecting stamps instead of videogames.

And by the way, so what would you do with that sealed copy of Zelda for the NES that I have?? That I am obviously not doing.

Your telling me you would open it?? That's what your basically saying. I want to beat contra/my lawn needs mowing/my dog needs a chew toy.

Edit 2: I just realised, how the hell do you collect sealed cars or lawnmowers?!?!?! O_O that kinda missed the mark there, dude..

LOL
Ok, I get exactly what you are saying.


Oh yeah, I didn't say anything about the cars or lawnmowers being sealed. You know I didn't mean that.

[Dr. Morbis]

Open it up and play it. I'm the Benedict Arnold of the sealed collecting community. I've bought the following nes games off eBay sealed and opened them up:

-Caltron 6 in 1
-Cheetahmen II
-Aladdin Deck Enhancer and all 6 games
-Ms Pacman Namco
-Pac Man Namco
-Athletic World
-Spiritual Warfare
-Sunday Funday
-and a few more commons that I forget

I enjoyed every minute of opening these games up. I don't plan on selling them ever and they are in no way an investment for me. Mind you I got all of these in 2000 before sealed nes prices took off, and didn't pay over $100 for any of them except Caltron.

Unless you are reseller or speculator, open it up.

Flame away...

[DaBargainHunta]

Open it up and play it. I'm the Benedict Arnold of the sealed collecting community. I've bought the following nes games off eBay sealed and opened them up:

-Caltron 6 in 1
-Cheetahmen II
-Aladdin Deck Enhancer and all 6 games
-Ms Pacman Namco
-Pac Man Namco
-Athletic World
-Spiritual Warfare
-Sunday Funday
-and a few more commons that I forget

I enjoyed every minute of opening these games up. I don't plan on selling them ever and they are in no way an investment for me. Mind you I got all of these in 2000 before sealed nes prices took off, and didn't pay over $100 for any of them.

Unless you are reseller or speculator, open it up.

Flame away...
No flames from me. I always say open it and enjoy it. I realize that some people here collect for value and money and so on, but for me, it's all about the gameplay and fun factor. Life is too short, so open the game and have a good time with it.

[Promophile]

*gets his box cutter out*
IMO, collectors of only sealed games, who never open those sealed games, may as well collect stamps and leave us something to enjoy.

That statement really makes no sense at all?? So someone that collects cars, you are going to tell them to start collecting Lawnmowers instead. That's in the same category of me collecting stamps instead of videogames.

And by the way, so what would you do with that sealed copy of Zelda for the NES that I have?? That I am obviously not doing.

Your telling me you would open it?? That's what your basically saying.

I collect sealed games, particularly NES games, because it's something else for me to collect. I of course collect loose NES games as well, it's just with sealed games it gives me that extra feeling of Nostaglia(Didn't spell that right I think) And to me they look pretty damn cool. Nowadays I can only afford like one sealed game every 2 months or so, but that's just how it is on ebay knowadays. And I don't have any more money than any other person on here. And every game that I have sealed, I have a loose copy to play.

You just stated you do have a loose copy to play. Therefore, I was not targeting you.
I was targeting those who only have sealed games. Nothing out of it's shrinkwrap. What's the point? I wave this finger at people who only collect sealed "anything", though; action figures, records, whatever it is, If you're just collecting sealed "anything" and putting it on a shelf, then you're more in it for "investing" than enjoying the items. Go play the stock market or something, and leave the rest of us with the games/lawnmowers/action figures. I want to beat contra/my lawn needs mowing/my dog needs a chew toy.

Edit 2: I just realised, how the hell do you collect sealed cars or lawnmowers?!?!?! O_O that kinda missed the mark there, dude..

Your not a collector. I don't care if you open sealed games or not because you payed your money for it, might as well destroy it if you want to. BUT to collectors, opening a sealed game is like taking a piss on a 1928 babe ruth card in pristine condition, or throwing a can of paint on a Picasso. I can enjoy a sealed game just as much, if not more so, than a opened one. If I feel like playing it, I just load up a rom or buy a un-sealed copy, which are EASY to get. Even if your not a collector I don't see whats wrong with preserving the value of a game. You never know when you'll need 500 dollars to bail you out of a mess.

[Griking]

Open it up and play it. I'm the Benedict Arnold of the sealed collecting community. I've bought the following nes games off eBay sealed and opened them up:

-Caltron 6 in 1
-Cheetahmen II
-Aladdin Deck Enhancer and all 6 games
-Ms Pacman Namco
-Pac Man Namco
-Athletic World
-Spiritual Warfare
-Sunday Funday
-and a few more commons that I forget

I enjoyed every minute of opening these games up. I don't plan on selling them ever and they are in no way an investment for me. Mind you I got all of these in 2000 before sealed nes prices took off, and didn't pay over $100 for any of them except Caltron.

Unless you are reseller or speculator, open it up.

Flame away...


Hey, to each their own but what I'm wondering is why you specifically looked for sealed copies of these games. Wouldn't it have easier to find and and a lot cheape to have just bought boxed but unsealed copies of these games.

[Kamino]

Your not a collector.

Ummm....
Before you make ARROGANT and FALSE statements, you might want to check your facts before you make yourself look like an IMBECILE.
Did you ASK me if I am a collector? No. And in fact, I am.
check here:
http://www.yeahiknowright.net/kamino/gameslist.htm
or, if that file isnt working,
http://www.yeahiknowright.net/kamino/gameslist.xls (excel format)
i just passed the 800 game mark - if I'm "not a collector", then holy shit, I don't want to know what I have to do to be one.
Like I said, to each his own. Back in January, I opened a sealed r6 sonic blast man 2. I'd been hunting it for so long, I paid good money for it, and I have played the hell out of it. Since then I've seen copies come out of the woodwork like crazy; I don't care. I only paid 37, So I paid less than when it was new.
But like I said, to each his own. It's my OPINION, as a COLLECTOR, that games were meant to be PLAYED.
And by the way - loading up a ROM is very un-collector like IMO. To ME, the whole point of collecting is to make the whole gaming experience as authentic as possible - the right cart, the right controller, the right picture on the TV. Again, that's just MY OPINION; feel free to have your own; do not feel free to attack me again. :angry:

EDIT: Edited to remove word that was the subject of mod warnings in another thread, now reads IMBECILE.

[badinsults]

Your not a collector.

Ummm....
Before you make ARROGANT and FALSE statements, you might want to check your facts before you make yourself look RETARDED.
Did you ASK me if I am a collector? No. And in fact, I am.
check here:
http://www.yeahiknowright.net/kamino/gameslist.htm
or, if that file isnt working,
http://www.yeahiknowright.net/kamino/gameslist.xls (excel format)
i just passed the 800 game mark - if I'm "not a collector", then holy shit, I don't want to know what I have to do to be one.
Like I said, to each his own. Back in January, I opened a sealed r6 sonic blast man 2. I'd been hunting it for so long, I paid good money for it, and I have played the hell out of it. Since then I've seen copies come out of the woodwork like crazy; I don't care. I only paid 37, So I paid less than when it was new.
But like I said, to each his own. It's my OPINION, as a COLLECTOR, that games were meant to be PLAYED.
And by the way - loading up a ROM is very un-collector like IMO. To ME, the whole point of collecting is to make the whole gaming experience as authentic as possible - the right cart, the right controller, the right picture on the TV. Again, that's just MY OPINION; feel free to have your own; do not feel free to attack me again. :angry:

Right on. I opened my copy of Bronkie the Brachosaurus, even though I know it will eventually be super rare.

[NintendoMan]

Open it up and play it. I'm the Benedict Arnold of the sealed collecting community. I've bought the following nes games off eBay sealed and opened them up:

-Caltron 6 in 1
-Cheetahmen II
-Aladdin Deck Enhancer and all 6 games
-Ms Pacman Namco
-Pac Man Namco
-Athletic World
-Spiritual Warfare
-Sunday Funday
-and a few more commons that I forget

I enjoyed every minute of opening these games up. I don't plan on selling them ever and they are in no way an investment for me. Mind you I got all of these in 2000 before sealed nes prices took off, and didn't pay over $100 for any of them except Caltron.

Unless you are reseller or speculator, open it up.

Flame away...


Hey, to each their own but what I'm wondering is why you specifically looked for sealed copies of these games. Wouldn't it have easier to find and and a lot cheape to have just bought boxed but unsealed copies of these games.

OK, OK, I see your point.
BUT, though, that would be like me, a sealed collector too, to tell a collector who is just into loose games, to just forget about those rare ones that you want and just get SMB+ Duck Hunts.

It's not about the easiness of finding a game. It's not to hard to do a sealed game search on ebay. Paying high prices is definately a bitch, but that's how it goes when you collect something that is more valuable.

[NintendoMan]

I could really care less about some people on here being TOTALLY against sealed game collector's. And there is alot of you guys. But, what I don't think some people get is this:

THAT YOU CAN COLLECT BOTH SEALED GAMES + LOOSE GAMES AT THE SAME TIME. YES, AT THE SAME TIME.

I also really don't care what people do with their sealed copies of games, that they outbid me on ebay. If they want to go ahead and feed that sealed Zelda game to their dog, well then whatever. It's there money. You can't be mad at someone for doing whatever they want with THEIR money.
So if a person wants to collect sealed games, but has never even played a videogame in his/her life, whatever. I wonder if you guys that are mad at sealed collector's get mad at people that collect baseball cards?? :)

[Kamino]

I could really care less about some people on here being TOTALLY against sealed game collector's. And there is alot of you guys. But, what I don't think some people get is this:

THAT YOU CAN COLLECT BOTH SEALED GAMES + LOOSE GAMES AT THE SAME TIME. YES, AT THE SAME TIME.

I also really don't care what people do with their sealed copies of games, that they outbid me on ebay. If they want to go ahead and feed that sealed Zelda game to their dog, well then whatever. It's there money. You can't be mad at someone for doing whatever they want with THEIR money.
So if a person wants to collect sealed games, but has never even played a videogame in his/her life, whatever. I wonder if you guys that are mad at sealed collector's get mad at people that collect baseball cards?? :)
Well, in order for me to get mad at baseball card collectors, someone would have to explain what you CAN do with a card besides let it sit on the shelf.
:hmm:

[NintendoMan]

I could really care less about some people on here being TOTALLY against sealed game collector's. And there is alot of you guys. But, what I don't think some people get is this:

THAT YOU CAN COLLECT BOTH SEALED GAMES + LOOSE GAMES AT THE SAME TIME. YES, AT THE SAME TIME.

I also really don't care what people do with their sealed copies of games, that they outbid me on ebay. If they want to go ahead and feed that sealed Zelda game to their dog, well then whatever. It's there money. You can't be mad at someone for doing whatever they want with THEIR money.
So if a person wants to collect sealed games, but has never even played a videogame in his/her life, whatever. I wonder if you guys that are mad at sealed collector's get mad at people that collect baseball cards?? :)
Well, in order for me to get mad at baseball card collectors, someone would have to explain what you CAN do with a card besides let it sit on the shelf.
:hmm:

Well, I wasn't directing these comments to you particularly. BUT, to people that complain about when someone collects sealed games they say, why do you do this, all you can do is look at them. Only thing you can do with baseball cards is look at them, too.

Sealed games are just really cool to me, set up side by side. It's a BEAUTIFUL site.

[charitycasegreg]

Your not a collector.

Ummm....
Before you make ARROGANT and FALSE statements, you might want to check your facts before you make yourself look like an IMBECILE.
Did you ASK me if I am a collector? No. And in fact, I am.
check here:
http://www.yeahiknowright.net/kamino/gameslist.htm
or, if that file isnt working,
http://www.yeahiknowright.net/kamino/gameslist.xls (excel format)
i just passed the 800 game mark - if I'm "not a collector", then holy shit, I don't want to know what I have to do to be one.
Like I said, to each his own. Back in January, I opened a sealed r6 sonic blast man 2. I'd been hunting it for so long, I paid good money for it, and I have played the hell out of it. Since then I've seen copies come out of the woodwork like crazy; I don't care. I only paid 37, So I paid less than when it was new.
But like I said, to each his own. It's my OPINION, as a COLLECTOR, that games were meant to be PLAYED.
And by the way - loading up a ROM is very un-collector like IMO. To ME, the whole point of collecting is to make the whole gaming experience as authentic as possible - the right cart, the right controller, the right picture on the TV. Again, that's just MY OPINION; feel free to have your own; do not feel free to attack me again. :angry:

EDIT: Edited to remove word that was the subject of mod warnings in another thread, now reads IMBECILE.

edit:

[Promophile]

Your not a collector.

Ummm....
Before you make ARROGANT and FALSE statements, you might want to check your facts before you make yourself look like an IMBECILE.
Did you ASK me if I am a collector? No. And in fact, I am.
check here:
http://www.yeahiknowright.net/kamino/gameslist.htm
or, if that file isnt working,
http://www.yeahiknowright.net/kamino/gameslist.xls (excel format)
i just passed the 800 game mark - if I'm "not a collector", then holy shit, I don't want to know what I have to do to be one.
Like I said, to each his own. Back in January, I opened a sealed r6 sonic blast man 2. I'd been hunting it for so long, I paid good money for it, and I have played the hell out of it. Since then I've seen copies come out of the woodwork like crazy; I don't care. I only paid 37, So I paid less than when it was new.
But like I said, to each his own. It's my OPINION, as a COLLECTOR, that games were meant to be PLAYED.
And by the way - loading up a ROM is very un-collector like IMO. To ME, the whole point of collecting is to make the whole gaming experience as authentic as possible - the right cart, the right controller, the right picture on the TV. Again, that's just MY OPINION; feel free to have your own; do not feel free to attack me again. :angry:

EDIT: Edited to remove word that was the subject of mod warnings in another thread, now reads IMBECILE.

Calm down there Tonto. It is my OPINION (am I allowed to have opinions or is everyone that has something to say about one of your posts not allowed to speak their minds?) that you are NOT a true collector. How can you be a collector if you can't even UNDERSTAND how people can collect baseball cards? Believe whatever you like, but to me you are not a true collector if you intentionally degrade your collection by any means. You could own 10,000 games and I wouldn't call you a collector. I'm sure your an avid game enthusiast, but you are NOT a collector by my definition of the word.

P.S. I wasn't attacking you personally, just stating how collectors feel when 90 percent of the people on these boards are urging people to degrade their collections while saying that people that want to keep their items in good condition are stupid for doing so.

[charitycasegreg]

Well I think it is extremely stupid to open a valuable sealed game. ex.

Someone buys mario 3 for nes sealed at a sale for $5. Yes it was cheap but they could easily get $70 for it on ebay then find a mint complete copy on ebay for less then $15. Then with the extra money go and buy many other games and break even. Unsealing it would be just dumb unless the game is worthless both sealed and complete.

I guess if you are rich, then go ahead and unseal them games instead of selling them and buying a cheaper mint complete game.

And Kamino is a collector, but why not make the best of your money so you can collect even further?

[Mr Mort]

Your not a collector. I don't care if you open sealed games or not because you payed your money for it, might as well destroy it if you want to. BUT to collectors, opening a sealed game is like taking a piss on a 1928 babe ruth card in pristine condition, or throwing a can of paint on a Picasso.


Calm down there Tonto. It is my OPINION (am I allowed to have opinions or is everyone that has something to say about one of your posts not allowed to speak their minds?) that you are NOT a true collector. How can you be a collector if you can't even UNDERSTAND how people can collect baseball cards? Believe whatever you like, but to me you are not a true collector if you intentionally degrade your collection by any means. You could own 10,000 games and I wouldn't call you a collector. I'm sure your an avid game enthusiast, but you are NOT a collector by my definition of the word.


How is opening a sealed game and playing it a form of degradation?

You make it sound like you're some upper echelon of collector, and that the rest of us are nothing but novices. Pretty arrogant.

Not all of us can afford to buy 2 copies of every game in order to keep one sealed. That is a sad reality of life. If I could, I would, but I have rent to pay, utilities, and other such necessities that take precedence.

As with all subjects, there is a fine line to be walked. If you're talking about an NES game that is easily obtainable loose at a reasonable price, than I could see your point in wanting to keep the sealed one sealed, since a loose copy for playing can be obtained easily. But in the case of Saturn games for example, where emulation and loose copies are not abundant, I think it's fine if you open it and enjoy it.

Opening a game and enjoying it is certainly not degrading it, so long as you keep everything in as "new" condition as possible. I'm all fine for collecting sealed games if you can afford it, but don't classify people who open their games and take care of them as "non-collectors", that's just assanine. An opened Panzer Dragoon Saga is far better than nothing, especially if I got to play it and appreciate how good the game really is.

[kainemaxwell]

Your not a collector

Ok by that statement, define a collector here for us please.

[Dr. Morbis]

Hey, to each their own but what I'm wondering is why you specifically looked for sealed copies of these games. Wouldn't it have easier to find and and a lot cheape to have just bought boxed but unsealed copies of these games.
Valid point, and that's what I do most of the time now: look for mint complete unsealed copies on eBay. However back when I got those games the difference between complete prices and sealed prices on eBay was negligible. Cheetahmen II I got sealed because that's the only way it came. Action 52, which I forgot to list, I got sealed to make sure I'd get the comic. Back then, an unsealed complete Namco Pac Man actually went for more than the sealed one I bought. If given the choice between an unsealed complete game and a sealed game for virtually the same price, I'll pick up the sealed game every time. I know that when I open it up, all its contents will be minty fresh.

My only beef is when sealed collectors look down their noses at anyone who opens a sealed game as if it's some sort of heresy against the videogame Gods for "degrading" their collection. Throwing out a box and/or manual is degrading to a collection, throwing out some cheap plastic seal is not.

[Promophile]

Your not a collector

Ok by that statement, define a collector here for us please.

A collector appreciates collecting. They may not have a desire to collect baseball cards, but they can understand how baseball fans can collect and appreciate them. They don't degrade the value of their collectables. If they collect posters they don't dry mount them. If they collect action figures, they leave them in their packaging. If they obtain a retro sealed game they don't open it. The appreciate the packaging as much as the game. That is the difference between being a video game fan and a video game collector. Collecting isn't about the number of games you own. Owning 100, 1000, or 10,000 games doesn't make you a collector.


I didn't come into this thread looking for a fight. I gave my honest opinion to the first poster, who asked if he should open his game or not. I saw people posting how people who don't open action figures or old games or collect baseball cards are idiots, and I spoke my mind. I won't change my opinion or hold my tounge just because a majority of people don't like what I have to say. I feel that if you can't see why people don't open their sealed games you are not a collector.If you think differently I don't really care. So get as pissed and grouchy about it as you want, call me an elitist or a jerk or whever you want to. If I don't feel that you are a collector I won't hesitate to say so. It's my opinion, and I won't change it to please anyone.



and I'll say it again incase you didn't hear me the first 3 times


I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR SEALED GAMES! You could use them to wipe your ass for all I care. personally I don't collect sealed games, they are too easy to fake.

[Kamino]

Calm down there Tonto. It is my OPINION (am I allowed to have opinions or is everyone that has something to say about one of your posts not allowed to speak their minds?) that you are NOT a true collector. How can you be a collector if you can't even UNDERSTAND how people can collect baseball cards? Believe whatever you like, but to me you are not a true collector if you intentionally degrade your collection by any means. You could own 10,000 games and I wouldn't call you a collector. I'm sure your an avid game enthusiast, but you are NOT a collector by my definition of the word.

P.S. I wasn't attacking you personally, just stating how collectors feel when 90 percent of the people on these boards are urging people to degrade their collections while saying that people that want to keep their items in good condition are stupid for doing so.

I did not say that I do not understand how people can collect baseball cards.

Well, in order for me to get mad at baseball card collectors, someone would have to explain what you CAN do with a card besides let it sit on the shelf.
As shown, I simply stated I don't know what can be done with them other than letting them sit. You can read them , and that is it. It's the same with stamps. Well technically you could mail rare stamps. before anyone jumps my ass, using a video game is a far cry from using a rare stamp. once a rare stamp is used, it is absolutely WORTHLESS as far as I know. However, as we see daily on ebay, used video games are NOT.
I am coming to realise that this argument is a lot like the prototypes argument; "Release the roms" vs "hey, i paid up the ass for this thing, its mine dammit".

If I don't feel you are a collector I won't hesitate to say so.
And likewise, I don't feel that you truly understand what games were meant for.
In fact, I sometimes think that of more than a few people around here. But i keep my damn trap shut about it. When I had a thread going on "how much of your collection is unplayed" I didnt go down the row ripping on everyone who had a large unplayed stack, even though i am highly angered by unplayed stacks and have been working on getting my stack lower every day. It's filed under "R" for "Rude", and It's something you ought to try not to be. ;)

Anyhoo, sorry i blew up at you and called you an imbecile. This isn't a good thread to wake up to. :P

[Promophile]

Your not a collector. I don't care if you open sealed games or not because you payed your money for it, might as well destroy it if you want to. BUT to collectors, opening a sealed game is like taking a piss on a 1928 babe ruth card in pristine condition, or throwing a can of paint on a Picasso.


Calm down there Tonto. It is my OPINION (am I allowed to have opinions or is everyone that has something to say about one of your posts not allowed to speak their minds?) that you are NOT a true collector. How can you be a collector if you can't even UNDERSTAND how people can collect baseball cards? Believe whatever you like, but to me you are not a true collector if you intentionally degrade your collection by any means. You could own 10,000 games and I wouldn't call you a collector. I'm sure your an avid game enthusiast, but you are NOT a collector by my definition of the word.


How is opening a sealed game and playing it a form of degradation?

You make it sound like you're some upper echelon of collector, and that the rest of us are nothing but novices. Pretty arrogant.

Not all of us can afford to buy 2 copies of every game in order to keep one sealed. That is a sad reality of life. If I could, I would, but I have rent to pay, utilities, and other such necessities that take precedence.

As with all subjects, there is a fine line to be walked. If you're talking about an NES game that is easily obtainable loose at a reasonable price, than I could see your point in wanting to keep the sealed one sealed, since a loose copy for playing can be obtained easily. But in the case of Saturn games for example, where emulation and loose copies are not abundant, I think it's fine if you open it and enjoy it.

Opening a game and enjoying it is certainly not degrading it, so long as you keep everything in as "new" condition as possible. I'm all fine for collecting sealed games if you can afford it, but don't classify people who open their games and take care of them as "non-collectors", that's just assanine. An opened Panzer Dragoon Saga is far better than nothing, especially if I got to play it and appreciate how good the game really is.


"How is opening a sealed game and playing it a form of degradation?"



You are lowering its collector value.




"You make it sound like you're some upper echelon of collector, and that the rest of us are nothing but novices. Pretty arrogant."



How the hell am I supposed to state my opinion without you thinking I'm some arrogant jerk? I don't think people are inferior to me if they open sealed games. I just don't consider them collectors. I don't know how to say that in a way that won't offend you, but if you find a way tell me.


It seems that you are looking at items more in terms of their physical condition. I am looking at them in terms of how much money they are worth. Neither position is wrong, just different.

[Promophile]

Calm down there Tonto. It is my OPINION (am I allowed to have opinions or is everyone that has something to say about one of your posts not allowed to speak their minds?) that you are NOT a true collector. How can you be a collector if you can't even UNDERSTAND how people can collect baseball cards? Believe whatever you like, but to me you are not a true collector if you intentionally degrade your collection by any means. You could own 10,000 games and I wouldn't call you a collector. I'm sure your an avid game enthusiast, but you are NOT a collector by my definition of the word.

P.S. I wasn't attacking you personally, just stating how collectors feel when 90 percent of the people on these boards are urging people to degrade their collections while saying that people that want to keep their items in good condition are stupid for doing so.

I did not say that I do not understand how people can collect baseball cards.

Well, in order for me to get mad at baseball card collectors, someone would have to explain what you CAN do with a card besides let it sit on the shelf.
As shown, I simply stated I don't know what can be done with them other than letting them sit. You can read them , and that is it. It's the same with stamps. Well technically you could mail rare stamps. before anyone jumps my ass, using a video game is a far cry from using a rare stamp. once a rare stamp is used, it is absolutely WORTHLESS as far as I know. However, as we see daily on ebay, used video games are NOT.
I am coming to realise that this argument is a lot like the prototypes argument; "Release the roms" vs "hey, i paid up the ass for this thing, its mine dammit".

If I don't feel you are a collector I won't hesitate to say so.
And likewise, I don't feel that you truly understand what games were meant for.
In fact, I sometimes think that of more than a few people around here. But i keep my damn trap shut about it. When I had a thread going on "how much of your collection is unplayed" I didnt go down the row ripping on everyone who had a large unplayed stack, even though i am highly angered by unplayed stacks and have been working on getting my stack lower every day. It's filed under "R" for "Rude", and It's something you ought to try not to be. ;)

Anyhoo, sorry i blew up at you and called you an imbecile. This isn't a good thread to wake up to. :P

No hard feelings.When I said you weren't a collector I didn't mean it as an insult. I was just commenting on your position towards the collecting of action fgures, baseball cards, and all that jazz. I see now that it was all just a misunderstanding. But anways, sorry if I came off as rude, I didn't mean it as a personal attack.

[Nubiandaze]

Hey All,
This thread is getting a little silly. I mean trying to work out who is a TRUE collector and who is not.

personally I don't collect sealed games, they are too easy to fake.

This is a statement from your 2nd last post. By the way Promophile, how can you go around stating who and who isn't a collector if you don't collect selaed games yourself. If sealed games are at the centre of your arguement, of how a 'collector' is really defined, how do you justify your comments about the true collector when you don't even collect selaed games yourself?.I mean it can't be out of personal experience so how do you justify this comment.

Other than that I think you have a reasonable arguement. I for one am sometimes tempted to open my sealed games but there is a certain satisfaction knowing that what is inside the sealed box is MINT (cart, inst etc). I'm different from you as I don't just look at it in monetary terms and what a game is worth in $. Dollars are important but definately not the sole reason why I am a collector of videogames. The mystery lies in that sealed box you have never opened, among other things such as funky packaging and having something from the 80's sealed and rare is kind of groovy.

Regards,

Nubian.

[anagrama]

Sealed collectors are frickin' insane. End of story.

[NintendoMan]

Sealed collectors are frickin' insane. End of story.

And people who make those kind of comments are IDIOTS. Period.

[NintendoMan]

This is a statement from your 2nd last post. By the way Promophile, how can you go around stating who and who isn't a collector if you don't collect selaed games yourself. If sealed games are at the centre of your arguement, of how a 'collector' is really defined, how do you justify your comments about the true collector when you don't even collect selaed games yourself?.I mean it can't be out of personal experience so how do you justify this comment.

Well, he is NOT saying that if you DON'T collect sealed games you are NOT a collector.

He is simply saying that he didn't know the definition of a collector, I think. Because he was wondering why the hell some people collect sealed games. COLLECTOR'S of something collect every damn thing they can find related to that item, wheter it stupid, crazy, or not.

Has anyone here ever seen that show on vh1 "TOTALLY OBSESSED". About 2 or 3 years ago, before I really started collecting videogames, I would have thought those people on there were complete fucking idiots. But when you collect something, as I am obsessed with just about everything Nintendo, I look at things a different way now.
Even that guy who was obsessed with Peter Pan on the show and dressed like a fairy everyday, I almost think is sort of cool how he loves something so much he'll do those sort of things everyday.


So really if you are "true" collector, to me, you won't complain or tell someone they are collecting WRONG just because it's not there way.

[NintendoMan]

And likewise, I don't feel that you truly understand what games were meant for.
In fact, I sometimes think that of more than a few people around here.

Well you are kinda saying that if you don't agree with YOUR way and YOUR view of collecting, that that person is NOT collecting the right way.
:)

[EnemyZero]

i hear ya, i have unopened copies of mario 2 and 3, TMNT, and P.O.W, i already have opened copies, but im always tempted...because i forgot if theres any posters or goodies inside lol

[Nubiandaze]

Hey All,

I feel that if you can't see why people don't open their sealed games you are not a collector.

He is saying then that people that keep their games sealed are collectors and people that can't understand why people keep their games sealed are not serious videogame collectors.

(I'm sorry to edit your text Promophile at the risk of placing your statement out of context. )I can sought of relate to that statement but what about the guy (or girl) who collects videogames and doesn't go after sealed stuff? Surely he/she is still a collector! I would hasten to guess that their are alot of videogame collectors who visit Digital Press whether they keep their games sealed or not.

I suppose you could rate the collector on a scale from newvbie to hardcore collector but then it turns the whole joy of collecting into a hierarchy with collector with 10000 or more games at the top of the tree. This is not in the spirit of game collecting and what I believe Digiatl Press aspires to. After all it is the 'Retrogaming Roundtable' and at a roundtable everyone is equal.This is where I agree with Promophile. He says that you can be a collector even if you collect 10000, 1000 or even 100 games.

but to me you are not a true collector if you intentionally degrade your collection by any means.

I know Promophile is entitled to his opinion, and thank the devil we can all voice our opinion, but you have touched on something very important here. Promophile argues, those who unseal their sealed games are degrading their collection and the ones who can hold on as long as they can and never open their sealed games are the TRUE collectors.

In a way I agree if we go back to a hierarchical model and put the sealed collector on the top of the tree but I believe we are all equal here in the retrogaming roundtable both as sealed and unsealed collectors of videogames. Be it 10 or 1000000 games.

Regards,

Nubian.