SNES Demo discussion...yes...again

[icarwngs55]

Ok folks question for all you gals and boys out there...well a few...

1.) How many people here collect SNES demo games?
2.) How rare are they in general (yes...we all know Ken Grffy is the easiest
to get; no need to enlighten us with that tid bit again LOL)?
3.) How much are they worth?
4.)How many different ones are out there?
5.) Were they recollected anddestroyed mostly?

I have seen:
Star Fox
Super Mario World 2
Donkey Kong Country 1-3
Street Fighter II (own)
Ken Griffey Jr Baseball (own)
NCAA Basketball (just bought)
Tetris Attack

Ok...here is my final personal question, my friend here at college who also collects has Super Mario World 2 and Tetris Attack demos which he is willing to sell to me for $25 each (probally could get him down to about 23 or 24, he is kind of a cheap ass)...are they worth that? Should I put my bucks out there... are they that hard to get?

Doc

[Habeeb Hamusta]

If they are in good condition I would pick them up. Very cool to have. :)

[Promophile]

Just won an auction for tetris attack demo for 23 dollars shipped. Yay!

[Nespit]

http://www.nespit.com

i think it is kinda complete right now. (the Snes demo list)

Rare: Killer Instinct

[Predatorxs]

I'll throw my hat into the Snes Demo Collector's list.. and i'd say $15 to $20 for both Yoshi's Island and Tetris Attack (demo's).. if there in good shape.

If there Minty fresh $30 to $40, but there only worth, what ever a collector is willing to pay ( alot of people say that around here) and for good reason..

Also I don't mean to gate crash anybodies thread, But if any Dp'ers have any of the following demo's : ( Please PM ) me i needs them real bad :P

(1) Killer Instinct
(2) Turtles in time
(3) Donkey Kong Country
(4) Contra III

I'm only after good to great shape, label n cart! thanks..

And i have the following demo's in my snes collection :

Street fighter II
Street fighter II Turbo
Ncaa Basketball
Tetris attack
Starfox
Yoshi's Island
Donkey Kong Country 3
Stunt race FX
Ken Griffey Jnr

Once i update my snes website this weekend, i'll be adding pics of my Demo carts too.

PS. I just checked out niels little demo collection, i wonder, what i need to do to wrestle some of those demo's away!?! :P

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[qbertandernie]

ive seen a sim ant demo...

went for about $14 a few years back on ebay. i shouldve bought it, but i was a lot cheaper then.

[Cauterize]

i have the following demo's in my snes collection :

Street fighter II
Street fighter II Turbo
Ncaa Basketball
Tetris attack
Starfox
Yoshi's Island
Donkey Kong Country 3
Stunt race FX
Ken Griffey Jnr

oooh get you mr! LOL amazing set! can i see a pic of them please?

[jbholio]

1.) How many people here collect SNES demo games?

I do.



2.) How rare are they in general (yes...we all know Ken Grffy is the easiest
to get; no need to enlighten us with that tid bit again LOL)?

They are all VERY hard to find. I would say the DKC demo cartridges are the hardest to find. I don't know if there is a demo of DKC2. NCAA Basketball also seems to be easy to find.



3.) How much are they worth?

Depends on the cart. Usually $15-20 except for Ken Griffey which is worth less than $10 (I got mine for $4 on eBay). I've seen Starfox go for $50 not too long ago on eBay.



4.)How many different ones are out there?

Check my site : http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/fd491499/nintendo/snes/



Ok...here is my final personal question, my friend here at college who also collects has Super Mario World 2 and Tetris Attack demos which he is willing to sell to me for $25 each (probally could get him down to about 23 or 24, he is kind of a cheap ass)...are they worth that? Should I put my bucks out there... are they that hard to get?

I would say $25 is not bad considering you don't have to pay for shipping.

[drummy]

Just won an auction for tetris attack demo for 23 dollars shipped. Yay!
You outbid me on that one. :angry:

[Predatorxs]

oooh get you mr! LOL amazing set! can i see a pic of them please?

Hidy-Hoo!-Neighbour! (Pics Ahooy!) ;)

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/demo9.jpg

And here's my fav snes demo! Cart!.. I thought while i'm throwing pics around! i might as well let this little puppy out for a run! :P

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/starfox_weekend.jpg

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[SegaAges]

super mario world is fun anyway dude, demo or not

[Predatorxs]

ive seen a sim ant demo...

went for about $14 a few years back on ebay. i shouldve bought it, but i was a lot cheaper then.

qbertandernie did the Sim Ant demo have a pic with it?? I bought one for $14 about 18 months back with out a pic and it was one of the copies with the yellow property of nintendo sticker, could be the same auction maybe?


super mario world is fun anyway dude, demo or not
I don't think anyone said it wasn't? :roll:

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[qbertandernie]

as i recall(keep in mind this was a while ago) the pic was just like the others ive seen, with the white printing on the top, and not for resale on the front.

i shouldve bought it, another one of those 'kick yourself later' things...

[Predatorxs]

Well at least we have a good idea, that the cart is out there! another one to look for!..?

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[Promophile]

as i recall(keep in mind this was a while ago) the pic was just like the others ive seen, with the white printing on the top, and not for resale on the front.

i shouldve bought it, another one of those 'kick yourself later' things...

I'll kick you too LOL . I have NEVER heard of a Simart demo cart. If you had it you probally could sell it for a bundle, could be 1 of a kind.

[qbertandernie]

looked like a mass production unit...just like the others.

i was a really cheap buyer when i first started. i started out buying no game over $5. then went to $8 for some complete, and only recently(within the last 8 months) started to routinely buy games more than $10. this was when i was in $5 or $10 mode, and before i knew anything of others collecting. i was just a guy that wanted to try to get all the games made for SNES(i figured there had to be at LEAST 300)...and i didnt have simant yet.

$14 + shipping? youve got to be kidding..ill get it at the used shop up the street someday cheaper...

or so i thought....

continues kicking self...

[sniperCCJVQ]

This topic reminds me that I sold Contra 3 Aliens War demo for 35$, the person which I sold the cart said it was one of the rarest.

[icarwngs55]

*BUMP

:)

[icarwngs55]

Got a new one off ebay today....

http://i3.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/ce/b0/73_3.JPG

[goatdan]

I do collect SNES demos, but they aren't worth much more than the actual game is to me. My entire collection of them (probably 15 carts, which includes 6 Ken Griffey's) I got or traded for with very little trouble or even seeking them out.

Other than what is on that list, I believe that there is also a Tetris Blast demo, but I can't confirm it. I have it listed as one that I have, but I can't find it for the life of me. Maybe it was just really the Tetris Attack one.

[Promophile]

Got a new one off ebay today....

http://i3.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/ce/b0/73_3.JPG

How much ya pay man? Got one a few days ago for 23 US.

[Predatorxs]

I could be wrong but was it $9.99 BIN on ebay?? i think there is another tetris attack on ebay right now?!

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[icarwngs55]

I paid 23.45 all together for that Tetris Attack, the seller changed it to a buy it now for me and I got it for that price :D

Mike

[devilman]

Stupid question - Are SNES demo carts cut-down versions of the full game or just a version without any packaging for use in stores?

/ignorant Brit ;)

[Cauterize]

oooh get you mr! LOL amazing set! can i see a pic of them please?

Hidy-Hoo!-Neighbour! (Pics Ahooy!) ;)

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/demo9.jpg

And here's my fav snes demo! Cart!.. I thought while i'm throwing pics around! i might as well let this little puppy out for a run! :P

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/starfox_weekend.jpg

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

@_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@ @_@

wow!

[joshnickerson]

Stupid question - Are SNES demo carts cut-down versions of the full game or just a version without any packaging for use in stores?

/ignorant Brit ;)

It's the full game. Same with the N64 demos (aside from Donkey Kong 64)

PS. Predatorxs, I will be dropping by your home tomorrow with a van full of toughs in suits to relieve you of your Star Fox Competition cart. ;)

[Predatorxs]

I paid 23.45 all together for that Tetris Attack, the seller changed it to a buy it now for me and I got it for that price :D

Mike

Cool.. your on your way in the small but interesting world of demo carts.. ;)

And for future reference, if you find another Tetris attack "demo" don't pass it up, it would make for good trade bait in the future!, imagine if you have 3 or 4 extra demo's, you might be able to trade for another demo you don't have! that someone else is searchin for.. :-P

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[Predatorxs]

Stupid question - Are SNES demo carts cut-down versions of the full game or just a version without any packaging for use in stores?

/ignorant Brit ;)

It's the full game. Same with the N64 demos (aside from Donkey Kong 64)

PS. Predatorxs, I will be dropping by your home tomorrow with a van full of toughs in suits to relieve you of your Star Fox Competition cart. ;)

No probs Joshnickerson, you can have it!... right after you, pry it from my cold, dead, life-less and bloody hands LOL

*Edit* sorry for the double post my bad!!! :P

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[jbholio]

Stupid question - Are SNES demo carts cut-down versions of the full game or just a version without any packaging for use in stores?

/ignorant Brit ;)

It's the full game. Same with the N64 demos (aside from Donkey Kong 64)


For the N64, the gray Zelda Majora's mask and turok 2 demo carts are also cut-down versions of the full game.

[Nespit]

Yep, and the Excitebike has a Different not for resale introscreen. (i could be wrong about the text in the screen.. could also be somethin like" demo only")

[Promophile]

Got my tetris attack in the mail. Now I have a question. As you can see in this pic the back has the property of nintendo sticker and a 90 day warranty sticker. Mine also has both of those (but in much better condition ;) ) . Just wondering if ALL SNES demos come with the property of nintendo bar code thing?

http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/rarities/StoreDemos/tetrisattack.html

Another thing I'm wondering is what the rarity of demo games would be on DPs scale. Of course they would all be different, as some of them are hella rare to find (Killer Instinct anyone?).

[Predatorxs]

Got my tetris attack in the mail. Now I have a question. As you can see in this pic the back has the property of nintendo sticker and a 90 day warranty sticker. Mine also has both of those (but in much better condition ;) ) . Just wondering if ALL SNES demos come with the property of nintendo bar code thing?

http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/rarities/StoreDemos/tetrisattack.html

Another thing I'm wondering is what the rarity of demo games would be on DPs scale. Of course they would all be different, as some of them are hella rare to find (Killer Instinct anyone?).

I'm not sure if DP has a scale for demo's, but in the last 4 months there have been 2 Snes Killer instinct (demo's) on ebay one was about $25 and the other went for $11.

The last one ($11) ended at like 1:30am UK time, i was out that night and got in at 1am, i thought this will be an easy auction to win, i tried to connect and my broadband was down for maintenance! Ahhhhhh! :/ (Just my luck LOL) So it went dirt cheap.. O_O If i had been able to bid it would have gone for more than just $11.

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[Promophile]

Got my tetris attack in the mail. Now I have a question. As you can see in this pic the back has the property of nintendo sticker and a 90 day warranty sticker. Mine also has both of those (but in much better condition ;) ) . Just wondering if ALL SNES demos come with the property of nintendo bar code thing?

http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/rarities/StoreDemos/tetrisattack.html

Another thing I'm wondering is what the rarity of demo games would be on DPs scale. Of course they would all be different, as some of them are hella rare to find (Killer Instinct anyone?).

I'm not sure if DP has a scale for demo's, but in the last 4 months there have been 2 Snes Killer instinct (demo's) on ebay one was about $25 and the other went for $11.

The last one ($11) ended at like 1:30am UK time, i was out that night and got in at 1am, i thought this will be an easy auction to win, i tried to connect and my broadband was down for maintenance! Ahhhhhh! :/ (Just my luck LOL) So it went dirt cheap.. O_O If i had been able to bid it would have gone for more than just $11.

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

Dang. I was searching for one a LONG time ago, for about a 5 month stretch and didn't see one, so I gave up. Guess I shouldn't have

[Predatorxs]

Yeah, they do show up, every once in awhile, i couldn't believe it went for $11 ahhhh! damn you, my ISP!... And i also emailed the winner, and offered $30 for the Killer Demo not he wouldn't take it...

Although he was pretty friendly, and he was a collector as well, so i didn't mind really! ;)

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[Chronodriftersx]

Stupid question - Are SNES demo carts cut-down versions of the full game or just a version without any packaging for use in stores?

/ignorant Brit ;)

It's the full game. Same with the N64 demos (aside from Donkey Kong 64)

PS. Predatorxs, I will be dropping by your home tomorrow with a van full of toughs in suits to relieve you of your Star Fox Competition cart. ;)

There is a wide array of features and extra things you will not get anywhere besides demos in around 6 or more n64 demos.

Additionally... as for the others as well, (those that appear to play ordinarily) there are changes to those like music differences, hard to find things, or other obscure and sometimes buggy stuff that are from an early revision rather than due to special programming although I can't discount that too.

There was someone who was employed at Nintendo who explained it the exact same fashon, so you can quote him too that the revison fixes vary in N64 demos. So it might become possible to find two different Zelda Demos one each with different music in a certain chapter of the game for example.

[Promophile]

Stupid question - Are SNES demo carts cut-down versions of the full game or just a version without any packaging for use in stores?

/ignorant Brit ;)

It's the full game. Same with the N64 demos (aside from Donkey Kong 64)

PS. Predatorxs, I will be dropping by your home tomorrow with a van full of toughs in suits to relieve you of your Star Fox Competition cart. ;)

There is a wide array of features and extra things you will not get anywhere besides ademo in around 6 or more n64 demos.

Additionally... as for the others as well, (those that appear to play ordinarily) there are changes to those like music differences, hard to find things, or other obscure and sometimes buggy stuff that are from an early revision rather than due to special programming although I can't discount that too.

There was someone who was employed at Nintendo who explained it the exact same fashon, so you can quote him too.

When you say additionally others have changes, do you only mean N64 demos or SNES demos as well?

P.S.
Just got my Stunt Racer FX SNES demo yesterday, yay.

[Chronodriftersx]

I got quoted before I could edit those spelling errors but where I was saying it can become possible to find two different Zelda Demos one each with different music in a certain chapter of the game for example..

It Applies to N64 demos in general. And... if you are extremely lucky (bastards that is ;) ) then maybe, only maybe you can find something afoot in a SNES Demo that is shared by most SNES demos or something extremely rare not found in all but a small batch of a certain demo game...

Anyway.. I've been jousting some ideas around for a classification that covers SNES demos only, so here is the deal when it comes to rarity. Where type "B" SNES demos are concerned it is that which is very rare and limited. Type "A" were made in Mexico in apparently large numbers (Look at the label by the serial number.) whereas type "B" demos such as Star Fox and Turtles 4 were apparently made in Japan in fewer numbers or less batches.

Type "C" demos appear to be some of the rarest SNES demos which I'm still buffing the wording out on how they are identified but for now, they were also made in Japan, and this includes only Donkey Kong Country 1 and Donkey Kong Country 2 (if), Mortal Kombat II, and Stunt Race FX (the easiest one to find out of those).

The unknown demos that have yet to be found are class "U" for unverified including one of the Kirby games, Super Mario world, Pilotwings, Super Mario Kart, and others which may not have been discovered, yes I have been told Sim-Ant plus Sim-City exist in White label, "Not for resale" SNES form.

However there was more to it if there is to be my classification than only saying it was made in Mexico or Japan since I believe DKC1 was made in Japan and DK3 is made in Mexico.. Then it could be fare to state that a DKC 3 demo was perhaps widely produced in greater numbers after the Donkey Kong Country craze had already exploded and became a success, meaning far less DKC 1 SNES demos.

Jbholio and I agree that DKC 1 appears to be rarest of these SNES demos that we know exist, Yet it is hard to know because The Rarest could also mean most oveted and leastly available. Although production numbers are impossible to tell, "C" class demos appear to generally be rarer then all others.

I can vouch for playing Super Mario Kart the year it came out in a SEARS store in a Standard SNES store Demo Kiosk/System although my memory wasn't set to notice if it was White label form.. Though my experience has served well, somewhere out there someone has a Diddy Kong Racing Demo which before any picture of that existed I guessed that it was out there since I had played it in a blockbuster Standard N64 Store type Kiosk, again before I learned to recognize demo format.

I See again it is possible that these ultra rare "U" type class demos exist whereas I hear about them like the person here who also says a Sim-Ant SNES demo exists. So there is some Batches out there that do appear very limited.

[Chronodriftersx]

OK. I cleaned things up and did some checking on some of the games, so I need a recap post to verify thes classes;

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note one: Killer instinct is a Japan made demo and appears to be quite rare among "B" type demos.

Note two: "C" type for now can include Donkey Kong Country 1 and Stunt Race FX, with DK1 being the the rarest of the two.

Note three: IN the post above I declared that the unknown demos should be labeled as "C" types whereas now I have cleared up what a "C" type Demo actually is. There are the rumored to exist demos which appear to be very limited and though they could be "C" type demos, it is possible that they could turn out to be"A" or "B" types too. I mean who's to say untill it's verified right? For now these shall be classified as "U" for unverified. Also, more on this ahead.
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[jbholio]

If I had to make an order of SNES demo starting with the hardest to find (on eBay) it would be :

DKC
DKC 3
Turtles IV
MK 2
Contra
Star Fox
SF 2
KI
Stunt Race
SF 2 Turbo
Yoshi Island
Tetris Attack
NCAA Basketball
Ken Griffey

Of course, any game not listed would be on the top of the list.

[Chronodriftersx]

To each of you who own these following four please double check from this list which classification these fit into. I have explained how to tell apart each SNES demo "type" and these are ones that are in need of double checking:
1. Street Fighter 2
2. NCAA Basketball
3. Mortal Kombat II
4. Contra 3

"A" class SNES demos are the ones that are commonly found and what distinguishes them are is they say made in mexico at the bottom left. "A" class have huge blocky "not for resale" and "Demo only" lettering compared to "B" and "C" class demos.
Some "A" types are:
1. Tetris Attack
2. Ken Griffey Jr's Winning Run
3. Donkey Kong Country 3


"B" class SNES demos say made in Japan at the far bottom left of the front label. Class "B" demos are generally more rare than "A" types but it varies seeing as how "A" class has DKC 3 which is really rare. "B" class demos look a little nicer shiny clear coat layer compared to "A" class. However, some "B" class demos are prone to suffer from a condition known as "wear-off" as seen with many of the Yoshi's Island demos. As for the size of the "not for resale" and "Demo only" lettering on on "B" types you can see that they are medium, not as large as "A" class demo lettering but is still thicker than class "C" demos.
Some "B" types are:
1. Star Fox
2. Turtles 4: Turtles in Time
3. Contra 3
4. Street fighter II
5. Street Fighter II Turbo
6. Killer Instinct
8. NCAA Basketball
9. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/fd491499/nintendo/snes/yoshiisland.jpg
^Wear-off as seen on a Yoshi's Isand^ (This is not mine but mine looks pretty much the same.)

"C" class SNES demos are also made in Japan and DKC 1 and MK II appear in this class which fill this class with some of the hardest of all to get SNES demos. "C" types have what appears to be an extra glossy layer of laminate that covers the front label that "A" and "B" types do not have. This glossy laminate protects from "wear-off" that afflicts "B" class SNES demos. What else is different is that the "not for resale" and "Demo only" writing is ultra thin compared to "A" and "B" types.
Some "C" class demos are:
1. Donkey Kong Country 1
2. Stunt Race FX
3. Mortal Kombat II

[Promophile]

I have a question while were at it

http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/rarities/StoreDemos/tetrisattack.html

My copy of tetris attack demo has these two stickers on the back as well (this isn't a picture of my copy). Is tetris attack the only game that comes with these? My copy of Stunt Racer Demo didn't have them on the back.

[jbholio]

I have a question while were at it

http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/rarities/StoreDemos/tetrisattack.html

My copy of tetris attack demo has these two stickers on the back as well (this isn't a picture of my copy). Is tetris attack the only game that comes with these? My copy of Stunt Racer Demo didn't have them on the back.

Mine too. I guess all Tetris Attack demo have the 2 stickers unless the store removed them.


To Chronodriftersx:

Not sure I understand your classification

Looking at my demos it looks like :
Class A :
DKC3
Tetris Attack
Jen Griffey

Class B:
Yoshi Island
KI

Class C:
SF 2 Turbo (the label looks glossy)
Stunt Race
Contra 3
DKC (hard to say because the label is not in good shape)

[jbholio]

Do you think the number punched on the back label has something to do with the classification. For exemple, my DKC3 has the number 40 and Yoshi Island is 08.

[Chronodriftersx]

To promophile and jbholio sometimes thoslabels don't end up on the back of a demo at all, but those back labels come in a variety of official looking ones to generic looking ones that are usually all official regardless of what it looks like, and the 30 day warranty thing was something a used game store sticks on the baclks of all the games it sells. The property of Nintendo labels mean that it passed nintendo inspection, though that's not to say that NINTENDO produced the demo themselves. Additionally we see these on Non-white-label SNES demos which usually means that there weren't any demos left available of the particular game or there was an instance where a game that didn't have a white label demo was specially displayed at a meeting, conference, competition, or otherwise simple demo unit in a store.


(oops the double post happened again)

[Chronodriftersx]

it could be, that might mean I could have a DKC 1 demo from pretty much the earliest batch since my demo has 00 punched in, it doesn't hurt to be a NINTENDO collector in Washington (where the store was that I got it btw) :P

So I have a
DKC 1 with a 00 punched
Turtles 4 with a 19 punched
Tetris Attack with a 40 punched
hmm my Star Fox has a 1 and then a space and then a feinter 1

All the others I have have the property of NINTENDO labels obscuring the numbers. I believe the games are hit with a number after the label is on the cart and not the other way around because that area tends to lift up on some carts. Still I don't know what that number is for regardless that Demos and non-demos alike have one.

[jbholio]

DKC : 00
DKC3 : 40
SF2 Turbo : 40
KI : 07
Yoshi Island : 08
Contra : 36 (very small number)
Tetris Attack : ?? (not for resale sticker on the number)
Ken Griffey : ?? (not for resale sticker on the number)
Stunt Race : ?? (not for resale sticker on the number and it is different than the normal not for resale stickers)

[Chronodriftersx]

To make it easier than ever, If it's made in mexico then it's "A" and if it's made in Japan then a trait needs to be identified for the type.

Class A, Says made in Mexico (includes demo only not for resale lettering in large mega chunky text)

Class B, Says made in Japan (includes demo only not for resale lettering in medium bold text)

Class C, Says made in Japan (includes demo only not for resale lettering in ultra thin text)

Both my ultra thin lettering "C" class demos have a definate extra laminate over the label that would keep "wear-off" from happening. "B" type is capable of having it's original high gloss but a good condition "C" type has a really high sheen to it because of the transparent ply.

Anyway the top part of the label matches the lettering type on the front of the label but in the examples below it only shows fronts.


"C" type: Ultra thin "not for resale" (made in Japan)
http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/rarities/StoreDemos/StuntRaceFX.jpg

"B" medium bold "not for resale" (made in Japan)
http://www.nespit.com/new/demo/demopics/turtles4.jpg

"A" Mega chunky "not for resale" (made in Mexico)
http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/rarities/StoreDemos/TetrisAttack_Front.jpg

[jbholio]

To make it easier than ever, If it's made in mexico then it's "A" and if it's made in Japan then a trait needs to be identified for the type.

Class A, Says made in Mexico (includes demo only not for resale lettering in large mega chunky text)

Class B, Says made in Japan (includes demo only not for resale lettering in medium bold text)

Class C, Says made in Japan (includes demo only not for resale lettering in ultra thin text)

Both my ultra thin lettering "C" class demos have a definate extra laminate over tha label that would keep "wear-off" from happening. "B" type is capable of having it's original high gloss but a good condition "C" type has a really high sheen to it because of the transparent ply.

Well... Both my SF 2 Turbo and Contra 3 have a definate extra laminate over tha label that would keep "wear-off" from happening but the not for resale letters are more like class B (medium bold text).

[Chronodriftersx]

jbholio, I want to ask you to check your Stun Race FX Demo and Donkey Kong Country Demo please. I have both my demos side to side and I am looking down at the top and the "Not for Resale - Demo Only part is offset to the left on the DKC about 1 or 2 centimeters compared to the Stunt Race lettering that is on the top part of the cart. That would be interesting if both our DKC demos used the same offsets and both have 00 punched in the back.

I should be more specific too in that the type of glossiness layer quality isn't what decides it. If you have one that is made in Mexico ("A") and you compare it a ("C") DKC1, Stunt Race, or MKII then the ultra thin lettering of the "C" type is a drastically apparent departure from the super boldness of the ones that are made in Mexico.

As for Contra 3 and SF II Turbo, I don't have those two yet I believe you when you said there is a definite clear layer. I'll have to take note of that and mention that it is specifically Yoshi's Island that is prone to paint deterioration (wear-off) as most times I see it it always has the black near the top wearing away from the white, not too bad in some cases and in others it is pretty extreme. I have also seen some KI's that have paint wear-away that looks like a lot of Yoshi's Island demos do.

Anyway I think it's ok now to say That Contra III and Street Fighter II (along with SFII Turbo) Belong to "B" class, and I think NCAA is "B" group too. And as far as Rarity is concerned there are some rare ones in each class though Ken Griffey and Tetris Attack I consider common and are found in "A" class along with a rare and coveted DKC 3.

Both "B" and "A" classes have some rare demos yet the one "C" type which you are likely to find with somewhat of a success rate is Stunt Race FX though I don't consider it typically common. I don't mean it to look like this is rambling, I'm only having a bit of fun delving into the topic.

[jbholio]

jbholio, I want to ask you to check your Stun Race FX Demo and Donkey Kong Country Demo please. I have both my demos side to side and I am looking down at the top and the "Not for Resale - Demo Only part is offset to the left on the DKC about 1 or 2 centimeters compared to the Stunt Race lettering that is on the top part of the cart. That would be interesting if both our DKC demos used the same offsets and both have 00 punched in the back.

The white part of the label on the top of my Stunt Race demo is torn, I can't compare it with the DKC cart. But the 2 games clearly have thin "not for resale" lettering on the front label compared to my other demo labels.

[icarwngs55]

I have a chance to get a DKC3 Demo for 24.95 only thing is it has some marker written on it on the cart...and the label is a tiny bit faded or worn....is it worth it kiddo?!?!

Mike

[jbholio]

I have a chance to get a DKC3 Demo for 24.95 only thing is it has some marker written on it on the cart...and the label is a tiny bit faded or worn....is it worth it kiddo?!?!

Mike

I would take it. I have not seen a lot of DKC3 demo and I have been collecting for more than 3 years. I paid mine $24.50 + shipping on eBay 2 years ago.

[Chronodriftersx]

You shouldn't be able to get a better deal on DKC3, not from me anyway. LOL

[qbertandernie]

i had no idea there were that many demos....my tetris attack does not have the property of nintendo labels, but my NCAA basketball does...odd.

[Chronodriftersx]

i had no idea there were that many demos....my tetris attack does not have the property of nintendo labels, but my NCAA basketball does...odd.

Yes 16 widely known so far and the N64 has a lot more, 23 known demos for it so far. As far as the back label is concerned it's a mixed bag of nuts what you will find.

[Promophile]

i had no idea there were that many demos....my tetris attack does not have the property of nintendo labels, but my NCAA basketball does...odd.

There are two posibilities. One is that they only have the property of nintendo stickers if the stores returned them back to nintnedo. The other is that they all had them, but people peeled them off.

[Chronodriftersx]

i had no idea there were that many demos....my tetris attack does not have the property of nintendo labels, but my NCAA basketball does...odd.

There are two posibilities. One is that they only have the property of nintendo stickers if the stores returned them back to nintnedo. The other is that they all had them, but people peeled them off.

That second possibility seems kind of extreme since you can get a demo that never had a PON attached to it, I have some that never got one and it's easy to tell when the back is in brand new condition. And about the first one I'm sure it was something like a nintendo rep came put those on the demo when they came to the store with the key to unlock the demo display and swap in the new game. But really there are no absolute rules because there had to be hundreds of different situations in which the situation can vary.

[Promophile]

i had no idea there were that many demos....my tetris attack does not have the property of nintendo labels, but my NCAA basketball does...odd.

There are two posibilities. One is that they only have the property of nintendo stickers if the stores returned them back to nintnedo. The other is that they all had them, but people peeled them off.

That second possibility seems kind of extreme since you can get a demo that never had a PON attached to it, I have some that never got one and it's easy to tell when the back is in brand new condition. And about the first one I'm sure it was something like a nintendo rep came put those on the demo when they came to the store with the key to unlock the demo display and swap in the new game. But really there are no absolute rules because there had to be hundreds of different situations in which the situation can vary.

Pretty true. The sad part is we'll never know for sure, unless someone can get ahold of some (maybe ex) Nintendo employees.

[joshnickerson]

There is also the possibility that some stores just did not HAVE a Nintendo rep to change the game. I know at a Wal-Mart I used to work at, Nintendo just shipped the demo and POP materials to the electronics manager and give them instructions on how to proceed. And despite the fact he was supposed to, he never sent any Nintendo demos back to Nintendo. Judging by the number of Gamecube demos on eBay, I don't think that rule is strictly enforced. :P

[Chronodriftersx]

"hundreds of different situations in which the situation can vary."

Don't judge that virtue on the number of Demo discs available for the gamecube because Nintendo doesn't even care about those in the way they had about the cartridges. With the preview carts however Nintendo collected and sold at a discount to Nintendo employees Fluke Says and what supplies that were not grapped up were limited and finally dumped somewhere (the dump maybe).

I also hear Nintendo would be backflipping mad when it didn't get it's stuff like preview carts and demo units back. Also I need to mention that there are variation to the PON label as seen on the back of preview carts.

There is the Standard with store number and store name (square edged)
New type glossy with store number and store name (rounder edges)
Long rectangle type with not for resale, demo game only, property of Nintendo (rounder edges)
Standard rectangle type with not for resale demo game only (square edged?)

[jbholio]

I need to mention that there are variation to the PON that is seen on the back of preview carts.

There is the Standard with store number and store name (square edged)
New type glossy with store number and store name (rounder edges)
Long rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (rounder edges)
Standard rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (square edges)

I have never seen a new type glossy with store number and store name label on a SNES demo, but only on N64 carts.

I think the standard rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (square edges) is for gameboy games.

Which category is this one?
http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/screenshots/Demo_Cart.jpg

[Chronodriftersx]

I need to mention that there are variation to the PON that is seen on the back of preview carts.

There is the Standard with store number and store name (square edged)
New type glossy with store number and store name (rounder edges)
Long rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (rounder edges)
Standard rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (square edges)

I have never seen a new type glossy with store number and store name label on a SNES demo, but only on N64 carts.

I think the standard rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (square edges) is for gameboy games.

Which category is this one?
http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/screenshots/Demo_Cart.jpg

On which SNES demo do you have that one on? That is a nice one with the address. To me it looks like one maybe that was only available inside Nintendo HQ. Like maybe the game came from HQ or was one of the playtesters demos.

I haven't seen a standard glossy one on a SNES game either, but it is a rare one even on N64 demos. Game Boy Advance also uses a specific one that says "demo game pak only".

Here is a plain square type on a gameboy game but I've seen it on SNES games before that weren't specifically one of the known 14 SNES demos but must have been used in some official capacity as a demo at some point. It actually misses the property of Nintendo part x_x

http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/f4/c8/cc_1_b.JPG

[Predatorxs]

I need to mention that there are variation to the PON that is seen on the back of preview carts.

There is the Standard with store number and store name (square edged)
New type glossy with store number and store name (rounder edges)
Long rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (rounder edges)
Standard rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (square edges)

I have never seen a new type glossy with store number and store name label on a SNES demo, but only on N64 carts.

I think the standard rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (square edges) is for gameboy games.

Which category is this one?
http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/screenshots/Demo_Cart.jpg

That Cool lookin Black Property of Nintendo looks like this cart, not sure if there the same pic? But have alook see! * Link (http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/history/images/Street_Fighter_II_Demo_Cart.jpg)*

Then have alook at this Demo Cart! it was used along with a Laserdisc, or at least thats the idea, i'v seen the pics of both the cart and laser disc many times, i always meant to ask someone, here at DP if they had more info on it? But if you look alittle more closely a the Cart pic, it says not to use it with a Console, so maybe there was a PC that ran it off an external board??*Link (http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/history/sneslaserdisc.html)* that would be a nice little item to add to a demo collection :P

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[Promophile]

I need to mention that there are variation to the PON that is seen on the back of preview carts.

There is the Standard with store number and store name (square edged)
New type glossy with store number and store name (rounder edges)
Long rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (rounder edges)
Standard rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (square edges)

I have never seen a new type glossy with store number and store name label on a SNES demo, but only on N64 carts.

I think the standard rectangle type with not for resale property of Nintendo (square edges) is for gameboy games.

Which category is this one?
http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/screenshots/Demo_Cart.jpg

That Cool lookin Black Property of Nintendo looks like this cart, not sure if there the same pic? But have alook see! * Link (http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/history/images/Street_Fighter_II_Demo_Cart.jpg)*

Then have alook at this Demo Cart! it was used along with a Laserdisc, or at least thats the idea, i'v seen the pics of both the cart and laser disc many times, i always meant to ask someone, here at DP if they had more info on it? But if you look alittle more closely a the Cart pic, it says not to use it with a Console, so maybe there was a PC that ran it off an external board??*Link (http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/history/sneslaserdisc.html)* that would be a nice little item to add to a demo collection :P

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

I may have an idea. When the SNES was out did you ever go to Toys'r'us and see the Movie display units? They had all these buttons with pictures of games. You touched the button with the game you wanted to see the movie of, and it played an AWESOME preview of the game, with nariation as well. I bet my money that that unit is where that disk came from. I have fond memories of watching the preivew of illusion of gaia.

[jbholio]

That Cool lookin Black Property of Nintendo looks like this cart, not sure if there the same pic? But have alook see! * Link (http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/history/images/Street_Fighter_II_Demo_Cart.jpg)*

Yes, this it where I got the pic. None of my demo carts have this sticker on the back. In fact, 4 of my 10 demos have stickers on the back. Yoshi Island, Ken Griffey, Tetris Attack have the normal sticker and Stunt Race has the long rectangle.

[Chronodriftersx]

That Cool lookin Black Property of Nintendo looks like this cart, not sure if there the same pic? But have alook see! * Link (http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/history/images/Street_Fighter_II_Demo_Cart.jpg)*

Yes, this it where I got the pic. None of my demo carts have this sticker on the back. In fact, 4 of my 10 demos have stickers on the back. Yoshi Island, Ken Griffey, Tetris Attack have the normal sticker and Stunt Race has the long rectangle.

Yes it is my Stunt Race FX that has a long rectangle PON tag too! :)

[Promophile]

my stunt race FX has nothing on the back. It has 08 stamped there.

[icarwngs55]

I know I keep posting these kind of ignorant questions but...

I also have a chance to get either mario tennis or mario golf demo [NOT FOR RESALE] for gameboy color *sorry can't remember which one* It is a bunch worn and faded on the label....it cost 14.99 at a game store here...is it worth it?

Just figured I'd ask while we spoke of Demos...I have no clue what gameboy ones go for

Mike

[Promophile]

Personally I rarely see demo gameboy games, so I would grab em.

[Chronodriftersx]

I know I keep posting these kind of ignorant questions but...

I also have a chance to get either mario tennis or mario golf demo [NOT FOR RESALE] for gameboy color *sorry can't remember which one* It is a bunch worn and faded on the label....it cost 14.99 at a game store here...is it worth it?

Just figured I'd ask while we spoke of Demos...I have no clue what gameboy ones go for

Mike

I would go for it, sounds like it would be Mario Tennis, that one I've seen before but I don't have it either. A really Rare GBC demo is the Zelda one which is practically nonexistent anymore as far as availability these days. Nonetheless 15 is a good price, I paid more for my Zelda GBC demo but it's label wasn't pretty either, so it varies. But being indecisive doesn't hurt, it only save you money when the deal is no longer available because you've waited forever. :) However when I saw a KI demo I went to the ATM to get cash and when I came back the same day it was gone. :(

[Promophile]

Just some info about my demos. Stunt Race FX was made in Japan Tetris attack was made in Mexico. Tetris attack has the long rectangle and the squarish property of nintendo stickers, and Stunt Race has no stickers on the back and the number 28 punched into the back.

[qbertandernie]

question probabaly not related...

i have several games that have an "SS" stamp on them...anyone know what that signifies?

[jbholio]

question probabaly not related...

i have several games that have an "SS" stamp on them...anyone know what that signifies?

I have no idea, none of my games have the SS stamp on them

[Promophile]

Seems more and more people are starting to pick up on these demos. Check it out

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8151287021

[Balloon Fight]

i had no idea there were that many demos....my tetris attack does not have the property of nintendo labels, but my NCAA basketball does...odd.

There are two posibilities. One is that they only have the property of nintendo stickers if the stores returned them back to nintnedo. The other is that they all had them, but people peeled them off.

That second possibility seems kind of extreme since you can get a demo that never had a PON attached to it, I have some that never got one and it's easy to tell when the back is in brand new condition. And about the first one I'm sure it was something like a nintendo rep came put those on the demo when they came to the store with the key to unlock the demo display and swap in the new game. But really there are no absolute rules because there had to be hundreds of different situations in which the situation can vary.

Pretty true. The sad part is we'll never know for sure, unless someone can get ahold of some (maybe ex) Nintendo employees.

First off I can't believe I missed this thread.

Anyway, a person I know that works at Nintendo sent me some snes games that he found at a little NOA employee "garage sale" and ALL of them had the "Property of Nintendo" stickers on them. I'm pretty sure that these demos that had the stickers on them were sent back to NOA and then were either A. Resold or B. Workers there took them home and then resold them.

Just another opinion. I'm starting to collect these again as I liquidated the ones I had previosly.