PStwo and playing PS1 games (problem)

[The Manimal]

Don't know what's up, but I've only gotten my FINAL FANTASY IV disc to work once out of probably 20 tries on my PStwo. It gives me some screen that says PLEASE INSERT PLAYSTATION OR PLAYSTATION 2 SOFTWARE.

WTF? There are a few scratches (it is NOT bad condition-wise), but I tried several discs which had around the same, and they worked fine.


Are PS2's really finicky on scratches or am I looking towards a bum unit?

[joshnickerson]

I've heard there are some games (such as Crash Twinsanity) that will crash or won't run on the PSTwo.

[The Manimal]

I've heard there are some games (such as Crash Twinsanity) that will crash or won't run on the PSTwo.

Didn't that Crash game just come out? O_O Did Sony give out a list of games that won't work or are people going to have to go by trial and error on this? Anyways, this was a PS1 game that I couldn't get to work.


Either way though, I don't see why some games would not work. I can understand the HDD thing, but it reads the discs the same way, right?

[SamuraiSmurfette]

final fantast Anthology/chronicles are a couple of the PS1 games that had issues on the PS2 (any model) not sure why.

[The Manimal]

Okay... :) Whew *hopefully this is the case, because I haven't tried very many games, but FFIV is the only disc of the maybe 10 I've tried that hasn't worked.

[FantasiaWHT]

Like it was said before, FF Anthologies and Chronicles both had problems with random PS2's.

I believe it had something to do with those games (and a few others I can't remember) being ports from other systems... in other words the PS2 is sort of trying to emulate two different systems (PS1/SNES) at the same time and not being able to do it well.

IIRC, the few GB/GBC games that had problems on the GBA were ports as well.

[Aussie2B]

Didn't FF Anthology and Chronicles have problems with the original PlayStation as well? I remember there being defective print runs.

[Griking]

I've heard there are some games (such as Crash Twinsanity) that will crash or won't run on the PSTwo.

Didn't that Crash game just come out? O_O Did Sony give out a list of games that won't work or are people going to have to go by trial and error on this?

Of course not, this is new Sony technology. YOU and other customers like you are the beta testers. I'm sure that Sony will let everyone know what games won't work once you guys let Sony know.

Just another example of why to not buy something when it first comes out.

[potatobob]

Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 won't work on my PS2 and I tried two different copies but all the other PS1 games work on it.

[Duncan]

Which makes me glad that I bought one of the last of the PS2 Online Packs, since I'm sure that the new PStwo will have some glaring pre-packaged incompatibility included as standard.

I've already heard from customers at work that the new Incredibles game won't play in their (older) PS2. Way to go, Sony... :roll:

The "ported-games-don't-work" theory probably has some credence, since I know that the Midway/Williams/Atari Arcade Greatest Hits discs won't run in a PS2 either. But then, how come the Mega Man and Street Fighter collections have no problems? Or the new King of Fighters set?

Curious, eh? :hmm:

[pixelsnpolygons]

God I hate Sony. I want to buy a new PS2 because my old one is having issues playing certain games, but I'm afraid to because the machines always seem to have problems.

[Vroomfunkel]

Before we all go off on a huge bitch about how crap Sony are, don't forget that they are the first company to even bother to do the backwards compatibility thing. No less frustrating for those games that don't work .. but having spent so long complaining about being scammed by games companies who didn't even bother to attempt backwards compatiblity, let's give at least some credit where it is due.

Just my tuppence worth ..

Vroomfunkel

[FantasiaWHT]

Before we all go off on a huge bitch about how crap Sony are, don't forget that they are the first company to even bother to do the backwards compatibility thing. No less frustrating for those games that don't work .. but having spent so long complaining about being scammed by games companies who didn't even bother to attempt backwards compatiblity, let's give at least some credit where it is due.

Just my tuppence worth ..

Vroomfunkel

Didn't gameboy colors play gameboy games?

Aside from Incredibles, both the Madden CE and GTA San Andreas have huge problems with older PS2s (double density discs)

As far as some ports working and some not... just a theory but maybe the ones that set the PS2 up as an emulator for the old system instead of a "true" port are the ones that have problems?

[RJ]

The 7800 played 2600 carts...

[jdc]

The PS2 uses emulation to "play" a PSX game. Sometimes the emulation doesn't work.

Nothing wrong with your PS2. Just buy a cheap PSX.

[Spartacus]

I just checked two of my PS2 systems and both loaded FF IV without a hitch. The FF CD was a new greatest hits version and the PS2's are two and three years old, respectively. I can only surmise that you are worshipping the wrong God. ;)

[Duncan]

The 7800 played 2600 carts...

...and so did the 5200. And the Genesis played Master System games (via the Power Base Converter), and the Super NES played Game Boy games (via the Super Game Boy).

It's not new, obviously. And who was bashing Sony? All of those previous efforts worked about as well overall as the PS2's backwards-compatibility does.

Also...


Aside from Incredibles, both the Madden CE and GTA San Andreas have huge problems with older PS2s (double density discs)

...where GTA:SA is concerned, my brother's early-2001-vintage PS2 has had not a single hiccup, and I know the store I work at would have had many returns if this were indeed the case. As for Madden CE, I'll blame EA since that seems to be the thing to do this week. :)

For The Incredibles, we only had about eight copies to sell during its first week -- that gives it at least a one-in-eight chance of failure, which is not promising. (It's a THQ game, but then it's also a Disney license and those are usually solid. So the situation is a bit puzzling.)

[FantasiaWHT]

Not all PS2's, early or not, all have problems with the dual density discs. Your one case hardly proves they don't ;) We had significant complaints about both Madden CE and GTA:SA (usually, when asked, they had no problems with other games) from many customers, and nearly all of them had older PS2s.

Also, your sampling shows that at MOST it's a 1:8 problem ratio for Incredibles, not at least :)

[pixelsnpolygons]

And who was bashing Sony?

He was probably referring to my statement of hating Sony, which was, more a comment of frustration than actual hatred - given that I have 122 PS2 games and counting, I'm obviously not going to tire of it soon.

[sabre2922]

its not EMULATION the PS2 at least the original models( not sure about the new PStwos ) has the PSone model chip in the back of the unit used for the IO port I think it is IT IS NOT EMULATED :angry:

[Cauterize]

...yet another problem for sony. shows why im a sega/nintendo fan boy! even though i have a ps2 for exclusive releases like FFX!

[Jive3D]

When playing PS1 games on a PS2 or PStwo, try messing around with the PS1 playing options in the browser menu. You can change stuff like Fast Load / Regular Load and smooth textures / not smooth textures. Though these are great options for use with PS1 games, turning them on or off can make certain games not work. I know that Wipeout XL would not work with the Fast Loading turned on, and I think that it's on by default. Food for thought. CHEW!!

[sirgeoph]

At the bottom of the Playstion website, they have a cosumer alert icon. Clicking it brings you here: http://www.us.playstation.com/news.aspx?id=consumeralerts

You can get a list of games that don't work 100% on the PS2. Granted, it's PS2 and not PSTwo, but the PSTwo can't be too much different than the PS2

[The Manimal]

I'm curious about the PS2 - PStwo thing. I can see some capabilities problems with what uses the HDD, the "i-Link" port (I have no idea which games use this), or like someone said before, some game where the disc tray opens by itself..but other than that, you would think it'd be the same.

[sleepycal]

FF chronicles runs fine (albeit slowly) on my PS2.

GTA SA has only choked once on me from 2-3 weeks of playing.

Don't know the exact number of my unit, but its the model before they added the progress scan and IR port.

[RJ]

The only game on Atari Arcade #2 that wont work is Paperboy.

IIRC, Toobin' on Arcade Party Pak wont work, & there's graphical blinking on Rampage. I didnt try the other games on there. I was just pissed Toobin didnt work- that's why I bought it, & was told by the clerk it DEFINITELY would work... :angry:

[Shawn Carr2o]

All the games that i have work great on my PS2
plus all of my PS1 grey original 2nd model system
as well too. I mean my PS1 games. ROFL


:dance:

[Iron Draggon]

Sony sucks. There, now somebody is bashing Sony. ;) I can hardly wait until the PS3 comes out. I was thinking that I might get one, if it can play PS1 & PS2 games, but I'm sure that it will just make matters even worse. And the only reason why I'm even thinking that I might get a PS3 when it comes out is because I want a PS2, but so far all PS2's suck, no matter which version of it you get. I wish Sony would just live up to their reputation of making high quality electronics, when it comes to their game systems. Even the PS1 had similar issues of suckiness, but it was nowhere near as bad as it is with the PS2. I love my PS1 for many reasons, but if Sony can't even figure out how to make a reliable PS2, then I see no point in me ever getting one. I only want one to play a certain import game for it anyhow. That's all I plan to ever do with it. And I sure won't make the mistake of selling my PS1 if I ever get a PS2, because I allegedly won't need my PS1 anymore, if I get a PS2. What a crock, yeah you won't need it, unless you still wanna play all your PS1 games! It's just evil. I wish someone could afford to sue their asses off.