giving it 6 months, PSP

[xaer0knight]

good for nintendo. i remember a lot of handhelds that came out, most of them didnt compare to the Gameboy. Except SNK's Neo-Geo Pocket which believe it or not took 15% of GB sales in its first holiday season vs. nintendo. Thats a lot of NGPC and NGPs. I remember the TurboExpress, GameGear, Atari Lynx, and the Nomad but i think the PSP will create some good compitition like the NGPC did. But you got to wonder 15% of GB sales is not a lot, if other portables failed what will the PSP do? Truth will be told after 6 months. By then it will be make or brake time. Meanwhile, what about the Nokia N-Gage?

[stuffedmonkey]

The n-gage will end up in the 5.99$ bins at discount stores, and selling next to game.com handhelds on ebay.

[vintagegamecrazy]

We'll see about the PSP.


The n-gage will end up in the 5.99$ bins at discount stores, and selling next to game.com handhelds on ebay.




Guess again pal! The N Gage already has 53 games listed in the database and it isn't over yet, It will not be a Game.com nor a NGPC for that fact. I guarantee it will have a loyal collecting fanbase later, it maybe like the Lynx but definately not the Game Com. We had a poll to see how many Ngage games would be released, and I was the only one who voted for it to have over 45 games released, THE ONLY ONE. I tell you, my friends, it will go down with a fight. :hmm:

[Overbite]

but this is sony. people are going to buy the PSP because it has the sony name.

i think the public will buy the PSP over the DS just like they're buying the PS2 over the GC.

[jdc]

Gran Turismo.....Metal Gear Solid....Grand Theft Auto.....etal. It's these franchises and others like them that continually lure "serious" gamers away from Nintendo and into Sony's fold.

Yes it sucks, no it's not fair, but that's the way it is. The PSP will sell because A) it's Sony and B) it's not Nintendo.

[MegaDrive20XX]

We'll see about the PSP.


The n-gage will end up in the 5.99$ bins at discount stores, and selling next to game.com handhelds on ebay.




Guess again pal! The N Gage already has 53 games listed in the database and it isn't over yet, It will not be a Game.com nor a NGPC for that fact. I guarantee it will have a loyal collecting fanbase later, it maybe like the Lynx but definately not the Game Com. We had a poll to see how many Ngage games would be released, and I was the only one who voted for it to have over 45 games released, THE ONLY ONE. I tell you, my friends, it will go down with a fight. :hmm:

Yeah I was surprised to see King of Fighters on that list for N-Gage...and Virtua Cop 2...


as for PSP...I am still going to say...wait till March of 2005....I will have a better opinion on this when everything is in the American public's hands. I still say it's too early to call the shots now. By then both systems should have a solid library

[XxMe2NiKxX]

Gamegear was the gameboy's best competition for the sole reasons that it was technologically advanced and came from a brand-name company, but it still lost. This is exactly what the PSP is. It's obviously more advanced then the DS, and it's from a brand-name company, but it will still lose. Like the Gamegear, it will last a long time (Gamegear went from '91-98, not many other consoles, especially portable ones, can record such a track record), but it won't win.

[Raedon]

Gamegear was the gameboy's best competition for the sole reasons that it was technologically advanced and came from a brand-name company, but it still lost.

Well it wasn't all cut and dry like that. it cost more, took more batteries and the batteries died in like two hours.

The best handheld before the GBA was the Nomad hands down.

[XxMe2NiKxX]

That's because the Nomad is a Genesis, and the Genesis is the greatest system of all time. And the six hour battery life didn't stop the gamegear from being a success story of sorts.

[kai123]

Gran Turismo.....Metal Gear Solid....Grand Theft Auto.....etal. It's these franchises and others like them that continually lure "serious" gamers away from Nintendo and into Sony's fold.

Yes it sucks, no it's not fair, but that's the way it is. The PSP will sell because A) it's Sony and B) it's not Nintendo.

Only serious gamers buy Nintendo? That is the biggest load. It is just another way to let your fanboy colors fly. Nintendo handhelds are to mainstream for me so I am getting a PSP.

[FlufflePuff]

The PSP will tank at first, especially if it's released at $299. Even more so if it really does have only 2 hours of battery life. Depending on the reliability of the hardware, and if they release better games than the current release lineup, I anticipate that it will eventually surpass the DS. However, most of next year, and quite likely the next holiday season will be firmly in Nintendo's court.

[soniko_karuto]

oooh, fanboys rants. count me in

i think that the psp is the next game gear. just remember the battery life.

example one:
i'm gonna go to school, and show off my psp. my cd player decides to stay home, so i can 'test' the psp on the road. after an hour of public transport, you get @ school.

OMG A PSP!!! people rant, they run towards you. You say, and look at gran turismo! you start showing off. 1 race after that, your system yells "shutting off, no battery" and dies on you.

[FantasiaWHT]

Gamegear was the gameboy's best competition for the sole reasons that it was technologically advanced and came from a brand-name company, but it still lost.

Well it wasn't all cut and dry like that. it cost more, took more batteries and the batteries died in like two hours.

The best handheld before the GBA was the Nomad hands down.

PSP:

Costs more? Check
Took more batteries? Sorta, more related to below
Worse battery life? Check

good to know.

[PapaStu]

I remember hearing all the same loads of shit being spewed when MS jumped into the fray with the Xbox. Oh it'll last 6 months, its not even gonna last a year. Well lookise-do, the XBox is now #2 in America, and is going strong into this Xmas season.

People get over it. Yes its no GameBoy, yes its no Nintendo, but its Sony, and they do put out quailty games, and quality systems. They wouldnt be one of the worlds top Electronics Manufacturers if they put out shit, and they wouldnt be the current worldwide leader in console games either.

But thats right everything they do is shit, and everything they touch implodes and nothing works right, and the sky is falling the sky is falling...

[Kamino]

but this is sony. people are going to buy the PSP because it has the sony name.

i think the public will buy the PSP over the DS just like they're buying the PS2 over the GC.

I really tend to believe that the massive sales of ps2 over Gamecube are due to a few factors:
#1. Massive number of cheap games. Look at the totals released for ps2, then for cube.
#2. Backwards compatibility out of the box.
#3. PS2 games tend to target the audience with the most disposable income. It's not 12 year old kids. it's 16-25, and they aren't buying Windwaker or Luigi's mansion; They're buying GTA(any of the gtas), Max Payne, Red Dead Revolver, etc.
I have read the gameslists.
PSP has a number of excellent looking titles coming that interest me.
DS ain't got shit. Wow, a rerelease of mario 64. I'd rather play mario is missing, than play mario 64. Seriously. I do believe i logged more hours on mario is missing back in the days that i did pc gaming, than i ever have on mario 64.

[vision89]

Hmmm, I think this has the potential to be a very close race between both systems. When it comes down to it, it's not who makes the best system, it's who knows how to sell their system the best. A perfect example is the Nintendo Game Boy. Nintendo has proven beyond any doubt that they know how to sell a system. When a system that can only display shades of green and yellow beats out colored systems like the Game Gear, Lynx and Neo Geo pocket, as well as portable versions of home consoles such as the Nomad and Turbo Express that must tell you something. On the other hand, Sony has also proven they know how to sell. They are the leader in the home cosole market and many other markets as well. I wouldn't look past Sony, they are coming out with a system that will have graphics and sound such as the portable market has never bore witness to, plus it will use discs capable of playing games like the ones we enjoy at home, and they know how to sell. Nintendo is coming out with a system that, from what I understand, has specs a little better than the SP and has two screens. The main difference is that it has two screens. That's it. If Nintendo hadn't proven themselves to be so good at selling in the handheld market I'd say their day was over. Personally, I think the idea of two screens is not that interesting, it's certainly not the technological breakthrough I've been searching for. Though I am looking forward to the DS because of the New Super Mario Bros. (not Mario 64, the other one) and the new Castlevania game. If Nintendo can contnue pumping out great games, and I suspect they can, and can hold onto third party support I suspect this will be a very close race between them both.

[Jasoco]

Gran Turismo.....Metal Gear Solid....Grand Theft Auto.....etal. It's these franchises and others like them that continually lure "serious" gamers away from Nintendo and into Sony's fold.

Yes it sucks, no it's not fair, but that's the way it is. The PSP will sell because A) it's Sony and B) it's not Nintendo.

Only serious gamers buy Nintendo? That is the biggest load. It is just another way to let your fanboy colors fly. Nintendo handhelds are to mainstream for me so I am getting a PSP.Heh. You read that wrong. He said the SERIOUS gamers buy SONY. Not Nintendo. :roll:

[kai123]

Gran Turismo.....Metal Gear Solid....Grand Theft Auto.....etal. It's these franchises and others like them that continually lure "serious" gamers away from Nintendo and into Sony's fold.

Yes it sucks, no it's not fair, but that's the way it is. The PSP will sell because A) it's Sony and B) it's not Nintendo.

Only serious gamers buy Nintendo? That is the biggest load. It is just another way to let your fanboy colors fly. Nintendo handhelds are to mainstream for me so I am getting a PSP.Heh. You read that wrong. He said the SERIOUS gamers buy SONY. Not Nintendo. :roll:

I stand corrected and have kicked myself in the balls for the mistake. Sorry.

[Zubiac666]

[ Wow, a rerelease of mario 64. I'd rather play mario is missing, than play mario 64. Seriously. I do believe i logged more hours on mario is missing back in the days that i did pc gaming, than i ever have on mario 64.

wtf?
I see you got a serious problem

c'mon "Mario is missing"?
no way :hmm:

[FantasiaWHT]

I remember hearing all the same loads of shit being spewed when MS jumped into the fray with the Xbox. Oh it'll last 6 months, its not even gonna last a year. Well lookise-do, the XBox is now #2 in America, and is going strong into this Xmas season.

People get over it. Yes its no GameBoy, yes its no Nintendo, but its Sony, and they do put out quailty games, and quality systems. They wouldnt be one of the worlds top Electronics Manufacturers if they put out shit, and they wouldnt be the current worldwide leader in console games either.

But thats right everything they do is shit, and everything they touch implodes and nothing works right, and the sky is falling the sky is falling...

Why couldn't they be one of the world's top if they put out shit? Quality of product is by no means a surefire indicator of success. Beta was a much superior technology than VHS, but it died. It's well documented that the PS2 is, by a significant margin, the least reliable of the three current consoles.

Nobody with any real critical thinking skills really thought Xbox would only last 6 months. It was obvious that no matter how poorly it did, Bill Gates was more than willing to poor tons and tons of money into it as a losing system just to get a proverbial foot in the console video game market door.

[jdc]

*kai123 himself saves me the trouble of kicking him in the junk* LOL

Anyways, kai123......I've bought the GBA on two occasions....and twice I've gotten rid of it. (I have an N64 as my avatar because that's the "retro" system that I collect"). I have a feeling that I'll be keeping my PSP because of the software possiblities. That's what I believe will give the PSP a real fighting chance.

The Gameboy will never fail, and it has a history of stomping any other challengers....sooner or later. It should be interesting. The Gameboy has never had to go up against a Sony before.

Wonder if Microsoft will throw their hat into the ring?

[Neonsolid]

Gone.

[digitalpress]

but this is sony. people are going to buy the PSP because it has the sony name.

i think the public will buy the PSP over the DS just like they're buying the PS2 over the GC.

Ah we can only hope!

"We"... ?

Sorry, I don't hope for that at all. I hope for a long, close race so lots and lots of games come out for both handhelds. And then I hope Microsoft puts out a quality handheld and there's a long, close race with lots and lots more games.

Just like now. Just like with PS2, GameCube, and Xbox. This is the BEST time to be a gamer, ever. Good competition, gigantic selection, lots of discounts everywhere. Don't wish for it to end.

[EnemyZero]

im not gonna bash the psp and say it will blow, because it might not, im supporting the ds though, because the psp is going to be a portable ps2, with alot of the games being ports it looks like with the exception of metal gear acid. I don't see paying alot of money for un-original games, that i can play at home for more than 2 hours at a time. Ive always liked nintendo for there gimmicks, and the ds is just that, a crazy ass gimmick hording machine, and it looks awesome. If i play the psp and i like it or good games come out, then hey maybe i will buy one, but not yet

[ubersaurus]

the DS has Mr. Driller. Whoever has Driller automatically wins.

[pookninja]

i will be getting both systems(i already have a nintendo ds on preorder)but i will not pay more then two hundred dollars for any handheld system.no way.nintendo has the right price at $149.99,but they dont have a killer game line up or anything.the games ive seen for the psp look more my style,but i worried about the price.if the psp goes for more then $200.00,i will wait for a price drop.

[thegreatescape]

with alot of the games being ports it looks like with the exception of metal gear acid. I don't see paying alot of money for un-original games, that i can play at home for more than 2 hours at a time.

And of course Mario64 DS and Ridge Racer DS are brand new games.. :roll:

[digitalpress]

with alot of the games being ports it looks like with the exception of metal gear acid. I don't see paying alot of money for un-original games, that i can play at home for more than 2 hours at a time.

And of course Mario64 DS and Ridge Racer DS are brand new games.. :roll:

Yeah I don't really "get" EnemyZero's logic here. Isn't part of the fun of handhelds being able to play your favorite console games in a handheld version? I mean... didn't TETRIS kick ass? Wasn't the very concept of the Nomad, Game Axe and the TurboExpress to play the actual console games on the road?

[Blendo75]

It's not 12 year old kids. it's 16-25, and they aren't buying Windwaker or Luigi's mansion; They're buying GTA(any of the gtas), Max Payne, Red Dead Revolver, etc.

I truly, TRULY feel sorry for anyone who would play GTA INSTEAD of Luigi's Mansion. Or who would play Wind Waker INSTEAD of GTA. Not everyone on here feels like they CANT love the PS2 because they also love the Cube, or feels like Mario games are just for kids and can only stick to a GTA-level of adult content (or else people wont think they're cool... oh goodness! :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed: )

Luigi's Mansion is one of the most entertaining games I've ever played, and so is GTA. Guess what I'm 29 (there's loads of gamers my age, look around) and I bought a GC the day it was released just so I could play Luigi's Mansion. I also got a PS2 day of release so I could play DOA2. I also purchased Wind Waker on the day it was released. All of the GTA's too. And MARIO SUNSHINE. And FFX and X-2. And RESIDENT EVIL (Cube remake). And Rez. And Mario Party/Kart/WHATEVER and dont forgert ICO, you get the idea! If I only had a Cube, or only had a PS2 then I would be SUFFERING. Maybe that's why you all have these system wars amongst yourselves, you're depriving yourselves of so many quality games that the pain is affecting your judjement.

DP said it best,

This is the BEST time to be a gamer, ever. Good competition, gigantic selection, lots of discounts everywhere. Don't wish for it to end.

I get my kicks playing GTA Sandreas and I will continue getting my kicks playing Mario 64 on the DS and if the PSP gets some decent exclusives like a Katamari Damaci port you bet your life I'll get that too. The more game systems there are, the better. Lower prices. More choices. This is great!!! If you love video games this is like another golden age of gaming, there's so many great games out there I cant afford nor do I have time to play all I want, but I'll damn sure keep trying.

Now I think I'll go play some Civilization III. Oh but I cant do that can I because console gamers CANT like PC games, right? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[digitalpress]

I truly, TRULY feel sorry for anyone who would play GTA INSTEAD of Luigi's Mansion. Or who would play Wind Waker INSTEAD of GTA. Not everyone on here feels like they CANT love the PS2 because they also love the Cube, or feels like Mario games are just for kids and can only stick to a GTA-level of adult content (or else people wont think they're cool... oh goodness! :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

I wish there were more like you, Blendo75. Gamers, even if you're poor, the day will someday come where you can own all three systems. There's just no excuse for wishing the demise of any one system. It's bad for the industry, it's bad for gamers. I don't want to live in a world where my choices are limited by a single huge gaming company.

[Ed Oscuro]

I think I'm gonna go buy Luigi's Mansion o:

[Nature Boy]

I don't want to live in a world where my choices are limited by a single huge gaming company.

I couldn't agree more (with this *and* your first comment).

The competition we're seeing now in consoles is *fantastic* - I've *never* been able to buy new games for consoles at $30 CAD before. How can this not be a great time to be a gamer?

I'd *love* to see the prices of handheld games drop too. Come on - some new handheld games, even if they're re-releases, cost more than console games (i.e. the Super Mario Advance stuff is full price, whereas Gradius V, a new game, was $15 CAD *cheaper* - and I *still* don't see them dropping the price of any SMA games).

Bring on the competition baby!

[petewhitley]

If we're gonna look at history, let's look at the real reason why the original GameBoy was such a success. Nintendo controlled the console market (as Sony does now), so they created a handheld that would play their popular console-based franchises (as Sony is doing). Those companies who held the minority of the home market at the time (Sega, Atari, and later NEC) tried their hands at the handheld market, and failed to seriously compete with the GameBoy and it's brand recognition/franchises. If you're going by history (and I'm not particularly saying that you should), the Sony PSP most definitely has the advantage.

Like several others, as a working adult, I love the choices we have today. However, I find myself trying to advocate for Sony and particularly the PSP when I see factually inaccurate history, rampant bias, and out-and-out mistruth about these upcoming handhelds ($299 retail? Sorry, that's a rumour at this point).

[theoakwoody]

I think that one disadvantage of the PSP is the fact that it has moving parts. First of all it seems as though it will make the PSP less reliable and secondly the battery has to be constantly spinning the mini dvd games. I'm surprised that Sony decided to go with mini dvds as technology is moving swiftly towards sd cards and the like. In fact within the next two years I could see Nintendo utilizing some of the newer compression in their sd cards making their capacity greater than the mini dvds. Of course Sony may be working on their mini dvd compression as well which would make my argument stupid and pointless.

I personally prefer the DS because it is different but I dont' think that it will necessarily do better than the PSP because of its uniqueness. Gamers aren't quick to change and I feel like they will be more drawn to the PSP's ports than to the DS's ports plus the ability to use a stylus.

[Kamino]

eventually, down the road, i'll wind up getting both/all systems. I always do. With the exception of a few utter pieces of crap(IMO)(Such as atari5200, INTV, 3do...erm i think that's it...from my actual experience that is)
We're still a bunch of absolute idiots for trying to judge these 2 systems before they're released.


OMG! PSP IS TEH SUCK! 2 HOUR BATTERIES?!?!?! WTFBBQ?!?!? MOVING PARTS? NO WAY! IT WILL SUCK! DS ALL TEH WAY!



OMG! DS HAS NO ORIGINAL GAMES! JUST MORE NINTENDO RERELEASES! A STYLUS? WTFBBQ~!??!!?!?!? LITTLE KID GAMES AGAIN?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! NO WAY! PSP ALL TEH WAY!

Personally though, from looking at the control schema of both systems, DS looks just as painful to use as n64 and gamecube...keep screwing up your controllers, nintendo....keep screwing yourself over.

[Duncan]

as for PSP...I am still going to say...wait till March of 2005....I will have a better opinion on this when everything is in the American public's hands. I still say it's too early to call the shots now. By then both systems should have a solid library

To be fair, the DS will also have had a four-month head start and all the holiday magic behind it by that time.

As we all know, Atari's once-unknown 2600 VCS beat the Bally Pro Arcade to market by three months back in 1977-78. And even though the Bally is definitely the more impressive piece of hardware with the better name, guess who came out on top in that battle? :)

I'm giving the edge to the DS, unless something happens on Sony's end (like a massive price drop) that would totally flip the playing field.

[FantasiaWHT]

Personally though, from looking at the control schema of both systems, DS looks just as painful to use as n64 and gamecube...keep screwing up your controllers, nintendo....keep screwing yourself over.

I love the Gamecube controller- my favorite ever. I can actually easily reach all the buttons without having to shift my grip like every other controller.

[ianoid]

I yawned before, and I'll yawn again. Fanboy chat is so one-sided.

Agree with DP, the more the merrier in any market. Innovation needs a window of opportuntity. If we have only one handheld dominating the industry we end up with the utterly underpowered Gameboy. Nice win, Nintendo. Too bad they set handheld gaming back 5 years or more. GBA still leaves me unimpressed and squinting.

If we had no PSP coming, we'd have no chance of GTA-P, which is what I'm waiting for.

[maxlords]

This is the BEST time to be a gamer, ever. Good competition, gigantic selection, lots of discounts everywhere. Don't wish for it to end.

Unless you live in Canada where nothing is discounted :( It's great...for US gamers. Try paying a discount price of $40-50 + tax on 3rd run games and clearance prices being $20. I can't even afford to buy most games 6-12 months after they come out up here. *sniff*

[SegaAges]

but this is sony. people are going to buy the PSP because it has the sony name.

i think the public will buy the PSP over the DS just like they're buying the PS2 over the GC.

Ah we can only hope!

"We"... ?

Sorry, I don't hope for that at all. I hope for a long, close race so lots and lots of games come out for both handhelds. And then I hope Microsoft puts out a quality handheld and there's a long, close race with lots and lots more games.

Just like now. Just like with PS2, GameCube, and Xbox. This is the BEST time to be a gamer, ever. Good competition, gigantic selection, lots of discounts everywhere. Don't wish for it to end.

I am going to have to totally agree with joe on this one. This new wave of "next gen" handhelds is now starting to emerge. the ds is out, the psp is coming out, the n gage is out, and we can only hope that ms gets into this.

i plan on buying a ds and a psp, hell, i still want an n gage, i am just waiting for the prices to be right, so that I don't make the same mistake that I did when I bought my ps2 .i bought it used for 275. i thought it was a super good deal, since it was complete. it came with box, documentation, everything.

low and behold, it is 150 now and pretty much anywhere you go to has a deal where you get a game free with it. i waited on the xbox and gc and it was worth the wait. 99 for gc with mario party 4 and nba street. 160 for halo xbox with halo.

as long as the games are good, i will buy them both, but will be waiting for a good price decline

[Neonsolid]

Gone.

[Daria]

but this is sony. people are going to buy the PSP because it has the sony name.

i think the public will buy the PSP over the DS just like they're buying the PS2 over the GC.

Ah we can only hope!

"We"... ?

Sorry, I don't hope for that at all. I hope for a long, close race so lots and lots of games come out for both handhelds. And then I hope Microsoft puts out a quality handheld and there's a long, close race with lots and lots more games.

Just like now. Just like with PS2, GameCube, and Xbox. This is the BEST time to be a gamer, ever. Good competition, gigantic selection, lots of discounts everywhere. Don't wish for it to end.

As much as you say you want that to happen i find it hard to believe that if i had said the DS should womp the PSP's ass, I Doubt you would have even replied to that statement seeing as its the popular view here at DP, I dont give a shit who agrees or disagrees with me I stated my opinion If I have to bashed and flamed for it oh well.

If you didn't give a shit you wouldn't have bothered to reply. :roll:

And it's not that anyone can argue with YOUR opinion, but you did say WE which lumps in all sorts of people who don't necassarily agree with you.

(:

[Neonsolid]

Gone.

[Jive3D]

I think it's funny that Nintendo's next gameboy is finally going up against Sony - only because the name GameBoy is a joke on one of Sony's older products, the Walkman.

The PSP looks really neat. But I'm only interested in Wipeout Pure. On the down side, the screen's got no protection and the batt life is not as good as the DS.

Some people are saying that two screens isnt anything to care about, but I think they forget about the touch screen and the Wireless elements. Just try the system out at a kiosk, then bash it if you still don't like it.

I was incredibly sceptical until I tried the kiosk, and then I was locked in. I'm not saying that I won't pick up a PSP, but the DS is number one on my list right now. I have not bought a system on Launch day since the original GBA came out.

[RCM]

I'm not getting a DS or a PSP for some time. I tell you what though, I cum for "FEEL THE MAGIC: XY/XX." Maybe one of the most exciting games to come around in a while for your old pal RCM. Go Sonic Team GO GO!

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[xaer0knight]

whoa, fan boy central. time to make some points.

1. Battery Life, hello 4-5 hrs depending on games and video cds.
2. Sim card, cool and all you can get them raither cheap now.
3. The PSP screen??? High Def like on a Portable, i admit its cool, but do i need to see everything letter boxed/streched?
4. 3rd Parties, Just because you have tons of 3rd party companies doesnt mean great games. Sure Metal Gear is a great series but with out proper marketing and ads, it will end up like MGS: Twin Snakes. 3rd parties like Konami blame the System and not them self, reason being you got to advertise it and if you dont you wont sell the games as much as the ones that you read or see comericals for.
5. 2 screens are innovated, thats what nintendo has be good at in the last years with a touch screen. i havent seen the innovation since Sega's VMUs.
6. Hi Def like screen, id admit the coolness factor is there, but why would you need an expanded view, its just a portable. Too me more whoa factor for graphics, like Itawa said "horsepower and graphics alone wont take gaming to the next level." AND DAMN RIGHT!
7. GBA, well im sorry the DS isnt going to be an upgrade. First of all the GBA technology is 32-bit with help of the SNES hardware/software. the DS looks just like a 64-bit N64.
8. Nintendo, looked at the consumer base a little more IMO. The saw the restrictions with battery life ands thats why it might not be 128-256 bit, its all about the battery life, i dont want to spend 220 on a PSP and then use $50 worth of battiers and then 50+ buck for a game!
9. Sony, looked at the WHOA and eyecandy sector, IMO. it just sucks up batteries like i said. The ability to watch Video and play MP3s is cool but who wants to spend up to 100 bucks in batteries a year? come on.

Like i said before, after 6 months to year, We will know the whole story. After all this is just speculation, Who knows at this point?

And yes, im a NINTENDO FANBOY. but i like to see both sides of the fence, hince Speculations!

[digitalpress]

but this is sony. people are going to buy the PSP because it has the sony name.

i think the public will buy the PSP over the DS just like they're buying the PS2 over the GC.

Ah we can only hope!

"We"... ?

Sorry, I don't hope for that at all. I hope for a long, close race so lots and lots of games come out for both handhelds. And then I hope Microsoft puts out a quality handheld and there's a long, close race with lots and lots more games.

Just like now. Just like with PS2, GameCube, and Xbox. This is the BEST time to be a gamer, ever. Good competition, gigantic selection, lots of discounts everywhere. Don't wish for it to end.

As much as you say you want that to happen i find it hard to believe that if i had said the DS should womp the PSP's ass, I Doubt you would have even replied to that statement seeing as its the popular view here at DP, I dont give a shit who agrees or disagrees with me I stated my opinion If I have to bashed and flamed for it oh well.

That's totally unfair and terribly naive of you. If you had been paying any attention to the scope of Digital Press (not just me in particular) you would have noticed that there is no such bias here. I believe in what I say when I say that I want EVERYONE to win, because that's good for all of us gamers. I own a GBA and a GameCube and a PS2, and more Nintendo and PlayStation games than you'd imagine. I love them both.

I don't give a shit if you give a shit, and you weren't being flamed. I simply disagreed with your opinion. That's what forums are all about, son.

[theoakwoody]

Snaps.

[NintendoMan]

with alot of the games being ports it looks like with the exception of metal gear acid. I don't see paying alot of money for un-original games, that i can play at home for more than 2 hours at a time.

And of course Mario64 DS and Ridge Racer DS are brand new games.. :roll:

Yeah I don't really "get" EnemyZero's logic here. Isn't part of the fun of handhelds being able to play your favorite console games in a handheld version? I mean... didn't TETRIS kick ass? Wasn't the very concept of the Nomad, Game Axe and the TurboExpress to play the actual console games on the road?

WOW, this is a point that I have never realized, but have believed ever since I was into handhelds.
The most fun for handhelds to me is when I can bring my favs. on the road with me. I actually would rather have those with me. Now don't get me wrong, it's not like I don't want brand new games on it, but those awesome brand new games I honestly just would rather play on my TV.

[petewhitley]

The PSP looks really neat. But I'm only interested in Wipeout Pure. On the down side, the screen's got no protection

This is a common misconception about the PSP. It's recently been revealed that the PSP is expected to ship with a scratch-resistant screen surface seen on several new Sony products. Sorry, can't find the link right now ...

[thegreatescape]

The PSP looks really neat. But I'm only interested in Wipeout Pure. On the down side, the screen's got no protection

This is a common misconception about the PSP. It's recently been revealed that the PSP is expected to ship with a scratch-resistant screen surface seen on several new Sony products. Sorry, can't find the link right now ...

I read a similar article (possibly the same one), in which some folks put the screen to the test and found that only by striking it with a knife (effectively stabbing it) could they mark it.

[petewhitley]

I read a similar article (possibly the same one), in which some folks put the screen to the test and found that only by striking it with a knife (effectively stabbing it) could they mark it.

Yeah, that's the one. Having seen the condition of several DS touch screens that have been on display for only a matter of DAYS, I think our concerns should be directed towards the touch screen. I defy you to find one at EB, GameStop, etc. that isn't already marked the hell up. (With that said, I'm sure you *can* find one somewhere, so you can spare me the details).

[Jive3D]

WTFBBQ!!!

If one of the systems got a portable version of REZ, then all the arguments over which system to get would be over.

[Zing]

I have been delaying my purchase of an MP3 player due to the PSP support for MP3s. The expected $199-220 price seems about right. 4 hours of battery life is fine. That is enough for one day of playing on the road and NiMH rechargables make it a non-issue.

My only worry is the quality of the games.

[Jasoco]

Yeah, that's the one. Having seen the condition of several DS touch screens that have been on display for only a matter of DAYS, I think our concerns should be directed towards the touch screen. I defy you to find one at EB, GameStop, etc. that isn't already marked the hell up. (With that said, I'm sure you *can* find one somewhere, so you can spare me the details).Doylestown, PA. Not a scratch! I couldn't even hurt it! And believe me, I decided to try. I was very close to taking the box cutter out of my pocket to try. J/K, seriously. Screens will scratch! Get over it. Buy a protector and calm yourself.

Details++

The difference as I see it is the DS folds to protect the screen from anything that happens when you aren't playing it. Me likie.

[petewhitley]

Screens will scratch! Get over it. Buy a protector and calm yourself.

Details++

The difference as I see it is the DS folds to protect the screen from anything that happens when you aren't playing it. Me likie.

But the irony here is that while the holier-than-thou Nintendo army bemoans the PSP and it's big scratch-magnet screen, Sony is shipping it with a hard LCD coating that will in effect make it more scratch-resistant than that of the DS. Screens scratch, especially Nintendo DS screens that get lots of stylus action. Another supposed "benefit" of the DS out the window. The clock is slowly ticking until we start to see people backtracking and making excuses as to why the PSP succeeded ...

[Daria]

The PSP looks really neat. But I'm only interested in Wipeout Pure. On the down side, the screen's got no protection

This is a common misconception about the PSP. It's recently been revealed that the PSP is expected to ship with a scratch-resistant screen surface seen on several new Sony products. Sorry, can't find the link right now ...

I read a similar article (possibly the same one), in which some folks put the screen to the test and found that only by striking it with a knife (effectively stabbing it) could they mark it.

If you're taking cooking untensils to your game systems you deserve to have them get scratched up.

[NintendoMan]

The difference as I see it is the DS folds to protect the screen from anything that happens when you aren't playing it. Me likie.

I LOVE this feature as well!!!!!!!! :D

[SMB]

I think PSP will fall into a untimely death due to poor sales and just being a shadow to the DS.

[Promophile]

My guess is PSP will fail. And then DS will fail.

Wow lots of Nintendosux fanboys (both of the PS2 and X-box variety). I think that nintendo's experience with the portable game market will be the PSP's downfall, and the insane price of these portable systems will be the downfall of both.

[thegreatescape]

the insane price of these portable systems will be the downfall of both.

I cant speak for the rest of the world, but the DS launch price is only (in converted currency) $15-30 AU more than what the SP was selling for less than 6 months ago. The PSP launch price isnt far behind, and if i had the money i'd be more than willing to fork over the money for either. That statement was soooo 6-months ago..

[Slipdeath]

Well IMO I think everyone should forget about the DS and the PSP and go buy a QD!! :D :D :D

[racecar]

i won't get one until the price for it drop !! it insane to paid so much for a sony new product(note that the ps2 breaks so easily when it first came out !!) i'll probably hold out until the system put more games i wanted (alos the price for some will drop :D after a while)