buyers beware

[8bitnes]

I don't know if we have a special area for buyers and sellers like this, but here is another shill bidder selling CIB NES games.

See the number of times joseebd has bid on this item:
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=8145090484

Then check the number of ended items that same bidder has bid on from that same seller:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewBidItems&sort=3&userid=joseebd&completed=1&all=1&rows=0&sacategory=-1&nojspr=y&sspagename=h%3Ah%3Aadvsearch%3AUS&sofocus=bs&sosortproperty=1&satitle=&catref=C6&sorecordsperpage=50&sosortorder=1&from=R7&nojspr=y&pfid=0

[Habeeb Hamusta]

Haha wow. What a way to screw someone out of their money. Guess he should have paid attention to who was bidding. I have to remember to do that in the future.

[Jibbajaba]

I dont think that's a bad deal for $120 bucks. There are some good games in there. I wonder what it would have gone for without the shill bidding.

Chris

[delafro]

I was gonna say, that joseebd sure was trying hard to win that auction... hopefully Ebay is on top of this.

[postulio]

do us all a favor and please report him to ebay for shill bidding, makes everything saver for all of us.

[8bitnes]

I reported it before I even created this posting. I was going to bid on the auction too until I noticed the shill bidding.

[captain nintendo]

I was going to bid on that too. But the shill bidding pissed me off :angry:

[drummy]

What does shill bidding mean? O_O

[portnoyd]

It's when a seller has someone, or themselves, bid solely to inflate the final price of the auction with no real desire to win the item.

[J2games]

there was a huge article in the news about shill bidding in regard to Ebay motors...thousands of dollars were being made per auction and the scam was busted wide open!

as a selled and buyer on ebay, if I so much as think someone is jacking up their prices on purpose, I back off. Let them eat the final fees!

the other side is I do have regulars who repeatedly buy from me, but this guy looks fishy as the same person has won multiple times and only has one feedback (doesn't the seller leave feedback EACH time the person wins an auction? i do!)

[Daria]

Yup definately shill bidding:

joseebd won this auction and revieved positive feedback:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44885&item=5135608245

then our good seller thousanddays turned around and relisted:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44885&item=5135610209

And the funny part? joseebc was the second highest bidder on that auction too.

Opps.

[GarrettCRW]

The problem is, even legit bidders sometimes bid in a shill manner. Take, for instance, this auction of mine:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8146680629&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Some fool just bid up my old NES here up to nearly five bucks with a ton of individual bids over a five minute period. I'm no expert about the street value of old NES systems, but I'd venture a guess that my system here (which looks a lot more yellowed on the top than the picture implies), which comes with no games whatsoever, and has a too-high shipping estimate (let's just say the lucky winner is going to get their NES via priority and not standard, to say the least), is nowhere near worth five bucks, especially if you're concerned with the outer appearance of your new toaster.

[Daria]

The problem is, even legit bidders sometimes bid in a shill manner. Take, for instance, this auction of mine:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8146680629&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Yeah they do, but legit sllers don't give a buyer good feedback and then whip around and sell his item to someone else. And that legit buyer doesn't smile, and bit on the second auction.

[GarrettCRW]

Point well taken. But how many people would bother to look up buyer activity? (Well, besides the wiser members of forums such as this.)

[Hep038]

Yeah this is pretty bold, he only bids on Thousandays auctions. I hope the buyers get some money back. :angry:

Someone shoe inform some of the winning bidders that they were ripped off.