View Full Version : Nintendo making another add-on for Cube maybe?
MegaDrive20XX
11-17-2004, 11:14 AM
Nintendo has posted a poll in its homepage, asking users if they would be interested to purchase an adaptor which allows you to play all existing N64 cartridges on GameCube, and how much would you pay for it.
I voted :D
Oobgarm
11-17-2004, 11:20 AM
That would be a waste. The lowest price they mention selling it for is $39. Is know it says 'up to', but seriously.
Why not just go buy an N64 for like $20 at a local gamestore? I'm sure they've got plenty of them.
tritium
11-17-2004, 11:26 AM
Conserving space, I would be more than happy to pay double the price of an N64 for one... I would pay up to $50 for it.
-Tritium
Kilik Kurosawa
11-17-2004, 11:26 AM
That would be a waste. The lowest price they mention selling it for is $39. Is know it says 'up to', but seriously.
Why not just go buy an N64 for like $20 at a local gamestore? I'm sure they've got plenty of them.
I totally agree. Some game stores are giving them away free when you buy a certain amount of 64 games. Nintendo should be more worried about the next console and making that backwards compatible with GC. Why do they always do things like this and the E-reader, and never follow through completely. NOA always starts something cool then falls back into the pokemon safety net and that leaves most of us nintendo nuts wishing we lived in japan.
I'd buy it. I'm not a Nintendo collector, so that would be one less system taking up space in my house.
MegaDrive20XX
11-17-2004, 11:28 AM
That would be a waste. The lowest price they mention selling it for is $39. Is know it says 'up to', but seriously.
Why not just go buy an N64 for like $20 at a local gamestore? I'm sure they've got plenty of them.
I totally agree. Some game stores are giving them away free when you buy a certain amount of 64 games. Nintendo should be more worried about the next console and making that backwards compatible with GC. Why do they always do things like this and the E-reader, and never follow through completely. NOA always starts something cool then falls back into the pokemon safety net and that leaves most of us nintendo nuts wishing we lived in japan.
I back up that statement 100%...Nintendo can't stick with an idea if the world depended on it sadly.
EnemyZero
11-17-2004, 11:28 AM
eh...waste of money, but i could see throwing a cart slot into the new Revolution system
thegreatescape
11-17-2004, 11:37 AM
I'd consider it just to be able to play n64 games without having to wrestle with that garbage controller.
Ed Oscuro
11-17-2004, 11:38 AM
I would buy one if it let me play Japanese N64 carts, for sure :D
davidbrit2
11-17-2004, 11:41 AM
I'd consider it just to be able to play n64 games without having to wrestle with that garbage controller.
Definitely. I'd pay $40-50 to be able to play N64 games with readily available Gamecube controllers. Though the C-button issue might take some work. Hopefully they'd allow the buttons to be totally configurable.
Mayhem
11-17-2004, 11:46 AM
Three little letters: R G B
Most N64 owners never got to see the games in this output format. Now is the chance!
Kilik Kurosawa
11-17-2004, 11:47 AM
I'd consider it just to be able to play n64 games without having to wrestle with that garbage controller.
Definitely. I'd pay $40-50 to be able to play N64 games with readily available Gamecube controllers. Though the C-button issue might take some work. Hopefully they'd allow the buttons to be totally configurable.
I didn't have any trouble playing Ocarina of Time or MM on the Zelda Collector's disc. Actually i found the C knob to be easier to use than the orginal buttons imo.
Achika
11-17-2004, 12:04 PM
What about games like Dk 64, MM, Perfect Dark, StarCraft, etc? Expansion pack issues?
Ed Oscuro
11-17-2004, 12:11 PM
Easy, just put the extra 4MB of RAM in there...but you know that Nintendo wouldn't do that off the bat... >_<
rbudrick
11-17-2004, 12:12 PM
If you could enhance the graphics Like the PS2 did for PS1 games, then hell yeah.
-Rob
MegaDrive20XX
11-17-2004, 12:16 PM
What about games like Dk 64, MM, Perfect Dark, StarCraft, etc? Expansion pack issues?
I'd say, it should be built in already, get rid of the middle man jumper pak
Because if it cost $39...think about it....Price of N64 is $20...Expansion pak is near $20 as well....so it evens out I think
christianscott27
11-17-2004, 12:51 PM
me like! backward compatible good! too many systems! saves space! less wire!
...in a nutshell
Anexanhume
11-17-2004, 12:56 PM
The next question I would have is: will the tristar converter work with it? Unfortunately, since it's not a nintendo product, there's no gurantee at all, and it may look goofy as heck, but the idea of being able to play any nintendo game from the NES to the gamecube on one system is very nice :D
edit: I voted yes, 49
The Manimal
11-17-2004, 12:58 PM
I voted "interested - $39" but it might be safe to assume this will be something that hooks up to the same expansion port that the GB Player does.... :/
tholly
11-17-2004, 12:58 PM
i said yes..up to $39....but, if it did come out id probably spend more on it
unbroken
11-17-2004, 01:41 PM
i think this is awesome!!!! my n64 takes up way to much space, i would love to see n64 in component. i would pay up to 59 bux for this for sure.
Zubiac666
11-17-2004, 02:15 PM
I voted "interested - $39" but it might be safe to assume this will be something that hooks up to the same expansion port that the GB Player does.... :/
yeah it might BUT they could build in a Gameboyplayer port into the N64-player so that you stuck the GC+n64player onto your gameboyplayer.
that would be the best sandwich EVER :-P
Blendo75
11-17-2004, 02:18 PM
Why do they always do things like this and the E-reader, and never follow through completely.
Let's say Nintendo does release an N64 adapter. What exactly should the follow-through be? I dont get it. There's no need to "support" such a thing, do you think they should start releasing new N64 games?
This is actually a really good idea. I dont think some of you appreciate how much space this will save, imagine being able to use the same joysticks for two different systems, and this "second system" itself takes up no extra space. This is sweet. Also, the picture is going to look much better than it does with my current N64. I see no down side to this at all. Oh, yes I do. If I have to swap out this with the gameboy player that would suck, but I'd deal with it. I would buy this thing in a second. I'd also like a NES and SNES adapter as well, and please make them stackable so I can have them all sittiing under my cube at once, along with my gameboy adapter. Hear that Nintendo? Thanks.
Captain Wrong
11-17-2004, 02:23 PM
Interesting thought. I'd bet money that this would essentially be an N64 that would just use the 'cube for A/V and power, much like the 2600 add on for the Colecovision.
If I had a 'cube, I'd be interested, but I'm kind of with the "why should I buy this when you can get a stinking N64 for $20" thought.
sisko
11-17-2004, 02:26 PM
I'd be interested, though i'm not entirely sure I would buy it.
Personally, id rather see a GBA/DS combo player before an N64 player.
Push Upstairs
11-17-2004, 02:29 PM
Why?
Why would they release this product when they could simply "recycle" thier N64 games and get $30 a pop for each game? (Not that i like the idea).
I know Nintendo doesnt have an unlimited supply of cash...but why waste time, energy, & cash on a pointless and limited add on? Nintendo could (and should) be spending those resources on getting some much needed third party support for thier Cube and the eventual Revolution.
unbroken
11-17-2004, 03:12 PM
actually they need to release a snes adapter insted.
NintendoMan
11-17-2004, 03:16 PM
HELL YES I WOULD BUY ONE!!!
Other than it just being cool, it would save me some space. Thanks for posting this!
I just voted. EVERYONE ELSE PLEASE GO TO NINTENDO.COM AND VOTE!!
:)
SegaAges
11-17-2004, 03:29 PM
as long as the nintendo player could be attached as well, i would definately buy it with the quickness
Emily
11-17-2004, 06:57 PM
Wheres a LINK!!!????
MegaDrive20XX
11-17-2004, 07:01 PM
Wheres a LINK!!!????
www.nintendo.com ta da! :)
Scroll down, you'll see the poll
I got this news from http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm
NintendoMan
11-17-2004, 07:12 PM
as long as the nintendo player could be attached as well, i would definately buy it with the quickness
I just thought of that too.
I do want my GB Player to still be able to be on the GC, while the N64 attacthment as well.
cracked8ball
11-17-2004, 07:33 PM
I'd buy one only if it included adaptors for NES and SNES games as well.
Jasoco
11-17-2004, 07:40 PM
I'd buy it soley for the fact that I could finally play my N64 games without having to search the game stores for a controller that wasn't killed by the infamous "Mario Party Disease". When that game came out, N64 controller sticks were all destroyed by those dreaded "Rotate the stick" games. The game was fun, but I wish they hadn't been so stupid as to put them in in the first place.
So if an N64 adapter was released (And only if it sandwiched between the GB Player and the Cube for ease) I'd buy it on release day.
Also, I too love the fact I could put my N64 on the shelf and save space as well.
slip81
11-17-2004, 07:49 PM
Personally I wouldn't buy it. I've a 64 with the expansion pak and S-Video and that's good enough for me. But I'm not against the idea because I'm sure there are a lot of people who would like this feature and not have to have another system out to take up space, especially if said person doesn't play a lof of 64 games.
I also keep the 64 hooked up all the time because I collect for it.
Habeeb Hamusta
11-17-2004, 07:57 PM
I think it's a pretty cool concept but why even bother? As mentioned earlier you can get an N64 for practically nothing. I think it would be a waste of money for Nintendo and it wouldn't do very well at all. They need to be spending their time coming up with new, innovative ideas; not blowing the time and money into some pointless Cube add-on. :/
john_soper
11-17-2004, 08:02 PM
Kinda late in the Gamecube's life span for something like this.
Crush Crawfish
11-17-2004, 08:09 PM
I'd be all over this if they released it. One more extra space in my room, and I could probably hook up my saturn or NES where the N64 was. I'd pay up to $50 for it.
Lemmy Kilmister
11-17-2004, 08:12 PM
I really don't care if they make it or not, seeing as how I already own a n64. Though I still voted yes. It seemed like some of you guys were interested, so what the hell.
The Manimal
11-17-2004, 08:14 PM
How would the controllers work, though?
That trigger on the back of the N64 controller is there like a trigger for a gun shooting game, and now it would be that top button. Also, weren't there two buttons plus an additional four in the shape of a diamond? I don't remember but I think there were more buttons on the N64 controller...or the same. But in that Ken Griffey Jr game, those yellow buttons form a diamond like said and I think they represented the bases. I wouldn't want to be with a GC controller hitting L trigger for third, R for right, then both of those curved buttons which are both on the top for both home and second.
jonjandran
11-17-2004, 08:28 PM
Don't need it myself.
I've got all the N64 games on my Xbox. :D
davidbrit2
11-17-2004, 08:34 PM
How would the controllers work, though?
That trigger on the back of the N64 controller is there like a trigger for a gun shooting game, and now it would be that top button. Also, weren't there two buttons plus an additional four in the shape of a diamond? I don't remember but I think there were more buttons on the N64 controller...or the same. But in that Ken Griffey Jr game, those yellow buttons form a diamond like said and I think they represented the bases. I wouldn't want to be with a GC controller hitting L trigger for third, R for right, then both of those curved buttons which are both on the top for both home and second.
Yeah, that's why it would have to be highly customizable. Setting the GC L button to function as Z would take care of that issue, but there's still the whole C-button remapping to address.
One obvious solution would be just map it to the C-stick, but that would be extremely awkward for games that use them more than just occasionally.
Or you could set B and A to function normally, and have Y and X act as C-left and C-down respectively, roughly mimicking the arrangement you get from using B, A, C-left, and C-down in a group on the N64.
Then you could always have them mapped so that B=C-left, A=C-down, Y=C-up, X=C-right, and have the C-stick take over seldom used B and A button functions.
So many choices. Heh. But obviously no one setting would work for every game.
Jasoco
11-17-2004, 08:57 PM
The most logical thing to do is have two modes at least. One for games that use the middle leg and the right leg. And one that uses the left leg and right leg. (For the very few games that actually used the D-pad side.)
First configuration.
L trigger would be Z
R Trigger would be R
C-Stick would be the C button
A and B are A and B of course
Start is Start
Z will be the menu. (Like the GB Player. I would KILL Nintendo if they made the Cube's Z button act as the N64's Z trigger. Worst placed button ever!)
Second config.
L trigger is L
R trigger is R
D-Pad is D-Pad (With option to use the stick if the D-Pad is too small)
A and B are A and B
Start is Start
I don't know if these games used the Z button, let's hope not. I only play games that use the stick leg.
Either way, I would love an add-on like this. I just hope Nintendo isn't jerking our chains here. I seriously want this thing to come to be.
MegaDrive20XX
11-17-2004, 08:59 PM
Don't need it myself.
I've got all the N64 games on my Xbox. :D
you rom ho'...ah but you're still a good guy ;)
Ed Oscuro
11-17-2004, 09:02 PM
One other thing...the N64 add-on would have to go between the GBP and the GC. That would be a MAJOR flub.
jonjandran
11-17-2004, 09:04 PM
Don't need it myself.
I've got all the N64 games on my Xbox. :D
you rom ho'...ah but you're still a good guy ;)
I was just trying to get somethin started , but I guess you guys are wise to my ways. LOL
Ed Oscuro
11-17-2004, 09:21 PM
I voted that I'd pay $59 for it! MUAHAHAHA
By the way, anybody have the current stats? Soon as I voted it said "thanks for voting!!11" and after a refresh the poll had changed. WTFBBQ@N64P
Jasoco
11-17-2004, 09:26 PM
One other thing...the N64 add-on would have to go between the GBP and the GC. That would be a MAJOR flub.I already mentioned that, but if Nintendo did decide to somehow screw it up by making it not let you use the GBP as well, well, I'd retire my GBP. I rarely use it actually. I find it better to play my actual GBA SP than the player. So I don't know why I even bought it. But an N64 Player, that would get so much play time from me. Sadly it would probably drive up cost of N64 games at stores like GS and EB. Still, if it means I can finallly play Perfect Dark, Yoshi's Story, Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie again without having to hunt for a non broken controller, I'm all for it.
Either that, OR someone could release a Cube to N64 controller adapter. Either one would make me really happy. (Unless someone DID happen to make one.. Did they?? Please say yes..)
NintendoMan
11-17-2004, 09:33 PM
Kinda late in the Gamecube's life span for something like this.
Well not really. I mean yes, it would have been better to do this ayear or so ago. But look at the GB Player, it just came out a year ago. And look how good it sells.
Anexanhume
11-17-2004, 09:34 PM
Why would they waste their time? If they think the retro market is big enough, and they can turn enough profit, then why not?
I'd say nintendo consoles tend to have the longest lifetimes since the kids that have them don't always get the latest and greatest console immediately.
NintendoMan
11-17-2004, 09:35 PM
I voted that I'd pay $59 for it! MUAHAHAHA
By the way, anybody have the current stats? Soon as I voted it said "thanks for voting!!11" and after a refresh the poll had changed. WTFBBQ@N64P
Polls like this for nintendo WON'T have the stats for them. I mean they won't show them.
joshnickerson
11-17-2004, 10:03 PM
It would be an interesting add-on, that's for sure.
Ed Oscuro
11-17-2004, 10:07 PM
I'd retire my GBP. I rarely use it actually.
You're probably the only one ;) I use my GBP more than my GC so far.
Captain Wrong
11-18-2004, 01:10 AM
Why would they release this product when they could simply "recycle" thier N64 games and get $30 a pop for each game? (Not that i like the idea).
And we have a winner.
Ed Oscuro
11-18-2004, 01:13 AM
And I just spotted a +1.
Daria
11-18-2004, 01:25 AM
And I just spotted a +1.
While posting one too. Now that takes talent. All you need now is a stick of bubblegum.
And... I'll vote for the add-on but I don't see much point in one myself. I mean I already have an N64. Although it would be kinda cool to replace the crappy controller. Not 39 bucks cool though.
Ed Oscuro
11-18-2004, 01:27 AM
And I just spotted a +1.
While posting one too. Now that takes talent. All you need now is a stick of bubblegum.
Almost, but not quite: I'm trying to point out that these posts are a waste of time and bandwidth. Thanks for your concern, though...
Push Upstairs
11-18-2004, 01:42 AM
Why would they waste their time? If they think the retro market is big enough, and they can turn enough profit, then why not?
Since when has the N64 qualified as "retro"? The N64 is only a single generation old. I don't see anyone claiming that the Playstation or Dreamcast are "retro".
How many people outside of the Retro community do you think will buy this purposed add-on?
whoisKeel
11-18-2004, 02:34 AM
i voted yes, $39, but no way in hell i'd pay $39 for it...would pay $29 tops.
SkiDragon
11-18-2004, 03:12 AM
I had this same idea a while ago.
I voted for it. Its not really a bad idea, because it requires little else than sticking N64 components into a GBP shell, and it could potentially turn a profit. Gamecube should have had this from the start, to make it at least a little more comparable to the PS2 (in the minds of the masses, not to me).
petewhitley
11-18-2004, 03:43 AM
From a business standpoint in late 2004, this is clearly a ridiculous idea (please see the responses in this thread for proof). Clearly this poll has something to do with Nintendo gauging interest in retroactively-compatible consoles, not necessarily the GameCube. Think next-generation w/ GameCube compatibility.
GobopopRevisited
11-18-2004, 03:55 AM
From a business standpoint in late 2004, this is clearly a ridiculous idea (please see the responses in this thread for proof). Clearly this poll has something to do with Nintendo gauging interest in retroactively-compatible consoles, not necessarily the GameCube. Think next-generation w/ GameCube compatibility.
I was kind of thinking that too, but if they do decide to make one I'd jump on it. I voted "Interested - $49"
I'd buy it.
It's a gadget, and gadgets are fun to have. It would save wear and tear on my N64 controllers. Where I live, I can't buy them new any more and the used ones that I see almost always have thumbsticks that wiggle like loose teeth. I'd be able to give my N64 consoles a rest.
It would do away with the expansion pak and rumble pak....and quite possibly the memory card as well. I can't see any real problems with the stock Cube controller being used without button mapping being offered. Once you become proficient with the Cube controller, hitting "Z" on the right shoulder is just as easy as hitting "Z" on the bottom of an N64 controller, as with the "C" stick. "C" stick is far easier IMO.
Why would anyone outside of collectors buy it? So that they could get rid of another old console and all of it's hookups, and perhaps be remotivated to play their N64 carts that have been laying around. They'd finally trade the old consoles in....which means that I'd finally be able to finish my N64 Funtastics collection! LOL
Push Upstairs
11-18-2004, 01:51 PM
I'd imagine that a non-collector would have traded in thier games as well as their N64 to "upgrade" thier game setup.
Kid's don't want to play 6 yr old games on a system they have owned "forever". Kids want to own and play the newest games on the newest systems.
The only people that this item would have any appeal to would be retro gamers/collectors or people who decided to keep thier N64.
I doubt very seriously that those two groups combined would make it worth the $$ Nintendo would have to invest in this adaptor.
Ed Oscuro
11-18-2004, 03:12 PM
It would save wear and tear on my N64 controllers...It would do away with the expansion pak and rumble pak....and quite possibly the memory card as well. I can't see any real problems with the stock Cube controller being used without button mapping being offered. Once you become proficient with the Cube controller, hitting "Z" on the right shoulder is just as easy as hitting "Z" on the bottom of an N64 controller, as with the "C" stick. "C" stick is far easier IMO.
This man speaks the truth! Such a release would drive up N64 cart prices, on eBay for sure, and I'm not sure what I think of the Z button...but with a slightly redesigned controller all these issues go away.
chadtower
11-18-2004, 03:27 PM
Man, I'm intrigued... though that n64 controller issue would have to be answered. I have a hell of a time finding tight N64 controllers and they'd probably just put n64 controller ports on the adapter rather than come up with a button mapping scheme.
On a side note, how the hell have I never heard of that Tristar adapter? I want one! Is the NES connector in that thing any good?
Chronodriftersx
11-18-2004, 09:21 PM
hope this means a new run of n64 controllers
tholly
11-18-2004, 09:27 PM
hope this means a new run of n64 controllers
it will most likely just use the GC controller like the GB Player did
izret101
11-18-2004, 10:18 PM
I would be interested. In fact i am going to Nintendo's site right now to vote. Thanks for the heads up.
Just thought about it. It might mean a resurgance in N64 game prices too. You never know...
Jasoco
11-18-2004, 10:49 PM
hope this means a new run of n64 controllers
it will most likely just use the GC controller like the GB Player didAnd Hori would probably release N64--like controllers for the Cube like they did with the SNES style ones. I'm all for it.
Still, I'd be just as happy with a brand new boxed (Untouched and unruined) N64 controller or a converter to use my Cube controller.
Oh, and as for the argument that Z = Z, wrong. The Cube's Z button is terribly placed and painful for many people to reach and by GOD, so help me if I had to use that blasted button to FIRE, I'd kill someone. The L trigger is the LOGICAL choice because it is just that, a shoot button. And that's all I'll say about that so as to avoid a declining argument about Sony's DualShock controllers ad infinum et cetera and so on..
Allrightie then. Who's for cake?
Ed Oscuro
11-18-2004, 10:53 PM
mmm cake.
I totally agree with Jasoco. I'm all for a new Hori controller.
One other thing - the two shoulder buttons on the GC really should remain shoulder buttons with a GC add-on. Think about it - how would you play StarFox 64 if you mapped "fire" to one of them? Ack. GC's z button is horribly placed, that's for sure. Though it's nice to have it out of the way on the GBP setup (not that I particularly enjoy using the GC controller with the GBP...)
Jasoco
11-18-2004, 11:11 PM
That's why they could have multiple controller configurations. Each game could have its own config (Built-in) and you could choose if you have to.
I mean, basically, the way N64 games were designed, you rarely had a game where you needed to use both the L button and the Z button. (The way the legs were made.)
Besides, in StarFox 64, the L button and Z trigger weren't for fire anyway! The A and B buttons were! So don't fret, my pet. Multiple configs would be the easiest configuration... you know what I mean. Choices would win every time. (Especially if it could automatically detect the game inserted and set a certain config for it. Maybe display a screen explaining the config layout before you play.)
Hell, I just want to be able to play N64 games again without a dead controller! Whether it's via an add-on or a new controller.
MegaDrive20XX
11-18-2004, 11:12 PM
That's why they could have multiple controller configurations. Each game could have its own config (Built-in) and you could choose if you have to.
I mean, basically, the way N64 games were designed, you rarely had a game where you needed to use both the L button and the Z button. (The way the legs were made.)
Besides, in StarFox 64, the L button and Z trigger weren't for fire anyway! The A and B buttons were! So don't fret, my pet. Multiple configs would be the easiest configuration... you know what I mean. Choices would win every time. (Especially if it could automatically detect the game inserted and set a certain config for it. Maybe display a screen explaining the config layout before you play.)
Hell, I just want to be able to play N64 games again without a dead controller! Whether it's via an add-on or a new controller.
Yeah or a game that really needed the D-Pad (I can name maybe 6-7 titles that needed it...) yet you were stuck with the analog a majority of the time
Ed Oscuro
11-18-2004, 11:21 PM
Besides, in StarFox 64, the L button and Z trigger weren't for fire anyway! The A and B buttons were! So don't fret, my pet.
Scatman John laughs at your scatting. O:
Anyhow...yeah, but you need the shoulder buttons to spin. SPIN!
MegaDrive20XX
11-18-2004, 11:26 PM
Besides, in StarFox 64, the L button and Z trigger weren't for fire anyway! The A and B buttons were! So don't fret, my pet.
Scatman John laughs at your scatting. O:
Anyhow...yeah, but you need the shoulder buttons to spin. SPIN!
Peppy: DO A BARREL ROLL!
Fox:...no...stop bothering me and save your own ass from Star Wolf