JFK Assassination Game

[BigGeorgeJohnson]

<British Company Releases JFK Assassination Game
Family Spokesman Calls Product 'Despicable'

GLASGOW, Scotland (Nov. 22) - A British company said Sunday it was releasing a video game recreating the 1963 assassination of President Kennedy.

A spokesman for the president's brother, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., called the game ''despicable.''

The Glasgow-based firm Traffic said ''JFK Reloaded'' was an educational ''docu-game'' that would help disprove conspiracy theories about Kennedy's death. The game is due to be released Monday, the 41st anniversary of the shooting in Dallas.

Traffic said the game challenged players to recreate the three shots fired at the president's car by assassin Lee Harvey Oswald from the Texas School Book Depository.

Traffic's managing director, Kirk Ewing, said the game - available as an Internet download for $9.99 - would ''stimulate a younger generation of players to take an interest in this fascinating episode of American history.''

''We've created the game with the belief that Oswald was the only person that fired the shots on that day, although this recreation proves how immensely difficult his task was,'' Ewing said.

In a statement, Traffic said it was ''determined to promote the title respectfully,'' given the sensitivity of the subject.

Sen. Kennedy's spokesman, David Smith, would not comment on whether the family was taking any action to stop the game's release.

''It's despicable. There's really no further comment,'' Smith said, adding that the Washington office started getting calls about the game Friday.>




I think this is crossing the line, it's very disrespectful to the family and to America in general.

Whats next 9-11 the game?

[Ed Oscuro]

If anything's despicable, it's that Sen. Kennedy's spokesman would have the gall to discard it out of hand. Sure doesn't help dispell that feeling that the Kennedys are playing out the sympathy card (be it true or false). But hey, these are the folks who want us to know how bad and awful government is these days even though they're doing exactly jack squat about it.

Oh and George, you might want to reread what the game's actually about...being able to click a big button reading "see it happen" is no more disrespectful, ceteris paribus, than turning on TLC and watching the Zapruder film. You know what you're getting, either way, and now any freaks out there just are liberated from keeping around their selection of gore VCR films, that's all.

Woo, I'm done. It's not like I made this political from the start, though.

[tritium]

I don't approve of this. However, I don't beleive in censorship, so I will respond to this game with my $$$.. I won't buy it. I think that should get the point accross.

-Tritium

[Ed Oscuro]

http://www.wunderland.com/WhatsNewPics/2003/GrassyKnollConPhotos/JFKboardgame.jpg

I will be looking into this, promise.

[Kejoriv]

i am gonna download this game tonight. I wanna see what all the hype is. I love this. Its free advertising for the company.

[Kevin Listwan]

Hey, so when is the Reagan assasination game comming out?

[rbudrick]

You have to lkill Kennedy and shoot him in just the right place in exactly the same manner he was killed to get the best score...weird...

Yeah, I hear there's a hidden mini game where you get to screw Marilyn Monroe. You have to aim your willy just right to score.

And that new Hamilton-Burr Duel game looks awesome! You seen those screenshots?! You just shoot Hamilton and kill his ass! SO fun!

Can't wait for the game where you get to kill John Lennon...


Argh...so stupid...

-Rob

[Half Japanese]

Hey, so when is the Reagan assasination game comming out?


I hear it was cancelled. I hear it was a 1 on 1 racing game, just you and the grim reaper in an intense walker battle. Every now and then your controller would betray you and not function properly, making it all that more difficult. The ending apparently lasted for days and gave you conflicting feelings of whether or not you had just played the best or worst game of all time.

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

If someone tries to give me this game for Christmas, I'm going to give it back, and to the left...

Back, and to the left...

Back, and to the left...



;)

[tyranthraxus]

Ted Kennedy has been riding the sympathy card for decades. The game
sounds pretty lame. I think you could make a good game if it was more
of a detective type story. The assasination happens, but find the clues
and track down the shooter(s) :P before he gets away.

[DaBargainHunta]

I don't know how anyone could call this an "educational" product while maintaining a straight face. Education in what? How to assassinate someone? Sounds pretty horrible to me.

[SoulBlazer]

doh, I just created a topic onm this. :embarrassed:

But I asked a range of other questions about controversial games in general there, so hopefully it's allright. :)

[Flack]

Just to play Devil's Advocate a bit, why is this so much worse than say, Silent Scope? Is it because it's a real person's name attached to the pixels?

[stuffedmonkey]

I don't have an personal problem with it - but the above poster should be a little more forgiving about Ted Kennedy not wanting to see a game released reliving his brother's murder.

[Hovoc]

Just to play Devil's Advocate a bit, why is this so much worse than say, Silent Scope? Is it because it's a real person's name attached to the pixels?


when i worked at walmart and we had all the sniper shootings, we had gotten a game called sniper in, totally unrelated to the shootings, and we had just gotten it in when they started happening, tottally bad timing, but i still wanna get a copy since everyone pulled it off the shelves.

[tholly]

Just to play Devil's Advocate a bit, why is this so much worse than say, Silent Scope? Is it because it's a real person's name attached to the pixels?

its not...people just like being PC and starting up a big arguement about nothing

[BigGeorgeJohnson]

I suppose none of you would mind if your father was murdered when you were very young and your mother was sitting next to him at the time. Would you like it if someone decided to make a game about it? To profit from his tragic death? Becuase he was a well respected and a important man, would you make a game out of the fact that he left behind 2 fatherless children and your widowed mother. The man's daughter is still alive you know, she doesn't have anyone left now.

I guess no one remembers now (not that I was around either) but I do remember stories and it was a very sad time for the country.

Regardless I doubt any of you would like it if the man and name behind the pixels was a loved one or family member who was assassinated or killed.

Even so I don't believe in censorship or banning a game from coming to american shores, that totally goes against freedom and what America is all about.

And "ED" I seen the story, created the thread and gave my opinion which happened to be a single sentence you ignorant twit.

[kainemaxwell]

Yeah, I hear there's a hidden mini game where you get to screw Marilyn Monroe. You have to aim your willy just right to score.

I guess they were fans of Custer's Revenge?

[Fuyukaze]

I think the big problem with games like this isnt so much that a name is being atatched to a pixelated graphic, but that its taking a page from our history, an actual event, and making it into profitable thing. I hate politicaly corect. I hate it with a pashion. PC means to me that because of my race, sex, and beliefs, I must fit in a certain type "cast". That said, I dont care anymore. The dead are dead and if you want to respect them, fine. If you cant respect the fact they were once human beings with faults, pashions, interests, friends, loved ones, pleasures, and pains, then I guess thats fine as well. Hell, it is a free country. Myself, I'm going to continue remembering that these dead "things" were once just as human as I or anyone else. They may have been richer then me, maybe even poorer. They may have lived a better life then I, and then again, maybe not. But they will always remain human to me. Any game company that deams it worth profiting off the pain and suffering of others in my view is a company that isnt worth doing buisness with.

[Promophile]

I think the big problem with games like this isnt so much that a name is being atatched to a pixelated graphic, but that its taking a page from our history, an actual event, and making it into profitable thing. I hate politicaly corect. I hate it with a pashion. PC means to me that because of my race, sex, and beliefs, I must fit in a certain type "cast". That said, I dont care anymore. The dead are dead and if you want to respect them, fine. If you cant respect the fact they were once human beings with faults, pashions, interests, friends, loved ones, pleasures, and pains, then I guess thats fine as well. Hell, it is a free country. Myself, I'm going to continue remembering that these dead "things" were once just as human as I or anyone else. They may have been richer then me, maybe even poorer. They may have lived a better life then I, and then again, maybe not. But they will always remain human to me. Any game company that deams it worth profiting off the pain and suffering of others in my view is a company that isnt worth doing buisness with.

Too many companies to name have done this. Think of all the things with Jesus's picture on them. I'm sure Jesus (if your one of the people that believe in him) would've wanted you to own a sulpture of him playing baseball. What really sickens me is the companies making money off RECENT EVENTS. Have you seen those fake September 11th WTC coins they are selling on TV? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that buying a "I support the troops" sticker and putting it on your car is supporting anyone but the company that made the sticker.

[Aussie2B]

Have you seen those fake September 11th WTC coins they are selling on TV?

Haha, yeah, "This silver was miraculously recovered from a bank vault deep under the rumble of the fallen towers". I can just picture the people who found it: "YES! Fuck the 5000 people that died; we found a stash of silver! Now we can make tasteless coins, and sell them for 20 bucks a pop!"

[petewhitley]

Regardless I doubt any of you would like it if the man and name behind the pixels was a loved one or family member who was assassinated or killed.

Of course no one would like that. But that's the great thing about freedom of speech: it doesn't matter what you like. Long live assholes like the company that made this game. Testing the bounds of free speech affirms our freedom.

[Hovoc]

Have you seen those fake September 11th WTC coins they are selling on TV?

Haha, yeah, "This silver was miraculously recovered from a bank vault deep under the rumble of the fallen towers". I can just picture the people who found it: "YES! Fuck the 5000 people that died; we found a stash of silver! Now we can make tasteless coins, and sell them for 20 bucks a pop!"

i beleve there was an article posted a month or so back that said they werent made from silver found at the site

[christianscott27]

If anything's despicable, it's that Sen. Kennedy's spokesman would have the gall to discard it out of hand. Sure doesn't help dispell that feeling that the Kennedys are playing out the sympathy card (be it true or false). But hey, these are the folks who want us to know how bad and awful government is these days even though they're doing exactly jack squat about it


Ted Kennedy has been riding the sympathy card for decades.

hmm one guess who you turd blossoms voted for. sympathy card? are you serious?

ted lost his oldest brother in a WWII bomber crash, his brother sen.robert kennedy died from a headshot wound and JFK of course was killed in dallas, he's the last one alive. with so much tragedy and violence any man could be forgiven for leaving public life but ted picked up his fallen brothers banner and has served the people of MA in the senate for decades. even if you dislike his humanitarian stances you have to see his courage, do you think you could survive thru all that?

you think a man who has so many times been recipient of immense tragedy is playing a card, you really are a couple of idiots.

[Funkenstein]

I think the moral outrage stemming from this is mostly because of the Kennedy assasination being one of the extreme hot buttons it's going to take the nations years and years to get over. Mention JFK, and peole immediately hop on the defensive. I doubt there'd be much of a furvor if the game put you in the shoes of Jack Ruby.

[Ed Oscuro]

And "ED" I seen the story, created the thread and gave my opinion which happened to be a single sentence you ignorant twit.
I'm not the one who fails at reading here - it says it's a "docu-game." How does that support a thing you've said?

You say it's "very disrespectful," but it's obvious you, and most of the posters here, have decided that the word "game" alone turns this into a "go shoot up the capitalists and CIA-Haters" Goldeneye 2: Rogue Agent sort of affair.

If they were to present this as an interactive documentary, would everybody's reaction be this hostile? No chance.

If I was to say that I was making a show on television, everybody would assume I might show the Zapruder film, talk about the blood sprayed backwards on the policemen following the convoy, how Jackie didn't remember things she said, mention the four tramps, show a floor plan of the book depository, Castro hearing JFK was assassinated while waiting to hear JFK declare on the radio his intention of opening barriers to Cuba, etc.

Why doesn't anybody assume that my documentary wouldn't instead be about how wonderful it was JFK got killed, and that Oswald was really a Nazi agent hired by Jewish-influenced remnants of the Tsarist Secret Police, who was really pretty good at appearing inept? Because that's not what we expect from a documentary.

FMV game? Bad, no questions asked. Game that depicts a shooting? Automatically an FPS.

Anybody who's saying this is bad just because it includes the words "Kennedy" and "game" probably should give up saying that we see "more of the same" too much, because when something inventive comes along they reject it out of hand, just because we're wonderful gamers like that.

Lesson is - just MENTION one of America's sacred cows and this is what you get. Like the election, a lot of people are very quick to be vocal on matters they have no real knowledge on.

I don't have to explain that I think shooting Kennedy is horrible - if this was a game that glorified the killing that would definitely be horrible. Kennedy was a great President, and the fact that his efforts to rein in the CIA have created this probable myth that they had him killed.

As for some other absurd accusations leveled at me -

Christianscott, it's great to see you're speaking out on issues that concern you, but you're completely, utterly wrong. I voted for Kerry, but it should be obvious to every Democrat out there that we lost this election because our party wasn't willing to be straight with the American people (i.e. Kerry's continual pleas for money causing even party faithful to delete important emails from the campaign as a matter of course, or his insistence in debates that we could've used X amount of dollars for this...and this...and this...when it only could've been used once), and the party leaders weren't willing to be more open about many traditional Democratic issues; they sort of thought that people would just see "we're for women's rights, we're for gay marriage" and expect people to just sort of understand on the basis of our good hearts.

As for the Sen. Kennedy bit, yes, it's obvious that they've had lots to go through, but you're kidding yourself if you think that his papal bulls should be viewed with respect just because of their source. That's an appeal to authority, and we call that a logical fallacy. If President X says "I'm President X and I have a jetpack and fly around turning enemy nations into happy, contented patriotic voting friends of the U.S., and here's my magic powder," do I have to believe it? No, and I don't buy this, either. If anything it shows that Kennedy would like nothing better than to dismantle the CIA just out of spite. How is that being patriotic or even sensible?

That's only half of it, though - if you don't understand why the Dems lost in '04, just consider this thread again. The American people - Democratic or Republican, it doesn't matter - are shrill, self-serving folks who believe that their ability to memorize the sound bites hurled their way is equivalent to competency in understanding the politics which effect us. Just say "Jane's having an abortion" and people will immediately have their minds set about what kind of person she is, and they'll make that decision on the grounds of what their political stance is, not on what affects Jane's life. The Democrat will assume she was raped, the Republican will assume she's a loose woman, and reality never enters the picture.

Sorry for ranting people, but this was a really poor show.

[thegreatescape]

Whats next 9-11 the game?

Just to remind you, its right here (http://www.avault.com/reviews/review_temp.asp?game=msfs2k&page=1)

And while im linking, here is the official jfk reloaded site (http://www.jfkreloaded.com) where you can download a 13mb demo, which i did and...

I'd say all the fuss is mostly unwarranted, as it really is more simulation than game. Heck you cant even move around, all you can do is aim and shoot. It may be a murder simulator, but its a sim none the less. Its not like your assasinating Bush jr or someone that died yesterday either.

On the downside, it ran pretty choppy on my 2ghz duron + mx440 (that runs ET fine thank you very much).

[Ed Oscuro]

Thanks for the link, Greatescape!

The competition is billed as being part of a "forensic investigation," to show that it's possible to correctly choose the shots. That's in line with what the press release says. However, everything else is indeed on the side of sensationalism. I think they erred in their choice of wording to advertise on their site.

As for the model, it's very good. It did chug along on my PC, without screen tearing, but this PC isn't set up for graphically intensive programs and I bumped up the world detail to best and bumped up the graphical quality as well.

Final thought...the main menu has this scratchy sounding music clip which sounds like music the Air Force band would've played at his funeral. Definitely not chosen to make you feel good about the whole thing.

[christianscott27]

it doesnt matter how you frame it ed, the offensive part of the game is replicating a real life murder, talk it up anyway you want its still there. nevermind the fact thats its a national scar that wont heal, its the murder of ted kennedy's brother recreated as a game, how could he be anything but upset about it?


If anything's despicable, it's that Sen. Kennedy's spokesman would have the gall to discard it out of hand. Sure doesn't help dispell that feeling that the Kennedys are playing out the sympathy card (be it true or false).

the gall? again, how could any person in ted's position not feel disgusted, what would you feel if that were your loved one in the crosshairs?


As for the Sen. Kennedy bit, yes, it's obvious that they've had lots to go through, but you're kidding yourself if you think that his papal bulls should be viewed with respect just because of their source. That's an appeal to authority, and we call that a logical fallacy.

speaking for a "we" are you?

yes i do have an extra measure of respect for ted kennedy because he was able to take all of his pain and forge it into courage. its a burden that none of us can imagine, to see every one of your brothers die serving their country and still go on with a public life.


No, and I don't buy this, either. If anything it shows that Kennedy would like nothing better than to dismantle the CIA just out of spite. How is that being patriotic or even sensible?


the CIA is apparently dismantling itself, whatever that has to do with this. i live sen.kennedy's state, i know what he stands for and how he backs it up a bit better than people spoon fed the rightwing caricature of him.

last year in the city of boston 1000s of mostly immigrant low income janitors sought to form a union. they wanted an end to the 30 hour work week designed to keep them from benefits and forcing them to work two jobs to earn rent money. they risked everything by staging a strike, the companies responded by hiring other workers, leaving the strikers in a no voice, no win situation. 100s of low income families were being shown the ass end of the american dream until ted kennedy came to their aid.

kennedy joined their flagging ranks and promised them victory, soon enough he produced one of the most stunning upsets in recent labor history. kennedy brought every union he could reach to the janitors cause. overnight the building managers that had fired the strikers found that no UPS man, teamster, electrician, plumber or carpenter would set foot on their property. faced with kennedy's siege they had no choice but to accept the new union and start treating their workers with respect.

ted's campaign didnt get a dollar from these janitors, most of them cant even vote, he did it because he has convictions and a sense of justice. tell me what other senator you could see going to bat for poor people like that? its not a sympathy card, he's earned it.

[Ed Oscuro]

it doesnt matter how you frame it ed, the offensive part of the game is replicating a real life murder
So do documentary shows...ever seen one that's got a 3D simulation? Talk it up as much as YOU want: the fact is that computers have opened up a new way for people to study and look at this incident. Frankly, I myself found it interesting. Yes, there's also room for abuse, and I did say that they used the wrong sort of language in their production.


nevermind the fact thats its a national scar that wont heal, its the murder of ted kennedy's brother recreated as a game, how could he be anything but upset about it?
When we deal with it like this, it sure is! If they start pushing this game on TV and put it in everybody's faces, then you can talk.

What's more, the conspiracy stories need to be proven one way or the other. Lots of outstanding government officials will have a black mark against their name unless something is done to change the public opinion. Do you know who the Dulles brothers were?

I'm glad that Ted works so hard for people, but frankly I see shades of the usual politician BS of "condemn it and forget it exists" in simply saying this game is bad. You're saying that placating a segment of the public is better that doing justice, and I cannot condemn your careless attitude strongly enough.

[Kamino]

If anything's despicable, it's that Sen. Kennedy's spokesman would have the gall to discard it out of hand. Sure doesn't help dispell that feeling that the Kennedys are playing out the sympathy card (be it true or false). But hey, these are the folks who want us to know how bad and awful government is these days even though they're doing exactly jack squat about it


Ted Kennedy has been riding the sympathy card for decades.

hmm one guess who you turd blossoms voted for. sympathy card? are you serious?

ted lost his oldest brother in a WWII bomber crash, his brother sen.robert kennedy died from a headshot wound and JFK of course was killed in dallas, he's the last one alive. with so much tragedy and violence any man could be forgiven for leaving public life but ted picked up his fallen brothers banner and has served the people of MA in the senate for decades. even if you dislike his humanitarian stances you have to see his courage, do you think you could survive thru all that?

you think a man who has so many times been recipient of immense tragedy is playing a card, you really are a couple of idiots.

*hands christianscott some valium*
CHILL!

[christianscott27]

You're saying that placating a segment of the public is better that doing justice, and I cannot condemn your careless attitude strongly enough.


what justice is achieved by some dork getting off on shooting jackie instead of JFK? if you're naive enough to think some cheesey video game is going to bring and end to conspiracy theories then you havent paid much attention. one of my other collections is JFK conspiracy books, i've read over 30 of them from the warren commision to the "bounty hunter" theory. no matter what one author claims to prove two others will find holes in it, its far past solving a crime and more about belief systems at this point.

do you see me anywhere in this thread saying the game should be banned? i'm not advocating anything of the sort, that would be pretty moot since this a british game available on the internet. what i have said is that i feel ted kennedy has everyright to be repulsed by this game, for some reason you cant relate to that. what would you have him say? "i'm grateful this game has been made so geeks can enjoy playing my brothers murderer, its overdue!". why do you find his natural and understandable reaction "galling" and what gives you the prespective to condem him for it?

[chadtower]

ted lost his oldest brother in a WWII bomber crash, his brother sen.robert kennedy died from a headshot wound and JFK of course was killed in dallas, he's the last one alive. with so much tragedy and violence any man could be forgiven for leaving public life but ted picked up his fallen brothers banner and has served the people of MA in the senate for decades. even if you dislike his humanitarian stances you have to see his courage, do you think you could survive thru all that?

Ted Kennedy hasn't served anyone but his party and himself for a LOONG time. The man has no concept of what real life is like anymore. He is the ultimate example of the downward spiral of the Democratic party.

I have no interest in a game where JFK was assassinated. JFK was a good public official and a good man. I want a game where Ted is assassinated... it would be EASY, no one with arms could miss a headshot on that guy.

[DaBargainHunta]

The problem with this thread is that it has quickly turned into a political debate about Ted Kennedy. Whether you like Ted or not, he has every right to be repulsed by a game that seemingly exploits the death of his BROTHER. To most of us, JFK is just a name we read about in our history books, but to Ted, JFK was and is a whole lot more. Some of you seem to have forgotten that.

[chadtower]

The problem with this thread is that it has quickly turned into a political debate about Ted Kennedy. Whether you like Ted or not, he has every right to be repulsed by a game that seemingly exploits the death of his BROTHER. To most of us, JFK is just a name we read about in our history books, but to Ted, JFK was and is a whole lot more. Some of you seem to have forgotten that.

Actually, I didn't disagree with Ted being bothered by the game. I think he should be bothered by the game. I also think I'd rather have game where Ted could be assassinated than one where I could reenact JFK's murder.

[Ed Oscuro]

if you're naive enough to think some cheesey video game is going to bring and end to conspiracy theories then you havent paid much attention.
In case you haven't noticed, most people tend to go with only a few things. Back and to the left...really, stuff straight out of the Olliver Stone movie. Yes, the game's "cheesey" but I think that ANY information that gets into the public consciousness that's new and different has to be good.


one of my other collections is JFK conspiracy books, i've read over 30 of them from the warren commision to the "bounty hunter" theory. no matter what one author claims to prove two others will find holes in it, its far past solving a crime and more about belief systems at this point.
That's for sure...and there's thirty books very few other people have read. Condemn it or whatever, this has a chance at some exposure...moving away from the Ted Kennedy arguments, it wouldn't be a bad thing for more people to see this.


what i have said is that i feel ted kennedy has everyright to be repulsed by this game, for some reason you cant relate to that. what would you have him say? "i'm grateful this game has been made so geeks can enjoy playing my brothers murderer, its overdue!". why do you find his natural and understandable reaction "galling" and what gives you the prespective to condem him for it?
I certainly can agree with what you're saying, but you want my perspective for being mad about that sound bite?

It's as obvious as anything that he hasn't viewed it himself, and if the truth is known nobody working for him has (i.e. the spokesman quoted). As for the enjoyment...I've already addressed that; I did load it onto my machine for a few minutes to see what was going on. If they'd viewed it that would be one thing...but it seems they didn't, at all.

Basically, the message is "This game is satan on a disc and you shouldn't even look at it," and anybody who's taking that for an answer has just had the Man do his thinking for them.

[Aswald]

Have you seen those fake September 11th WTC coins they are selling on TV?

Haha, yeah, "This silver was miraculously recovered from a bank vault deep under the rumble of the fallen towers". I can just picture the people who found it: "YES! Fuck the 5000 people that died; we found a stash of silver! Now we can make tasteless coins, and sell them for 20 bucks a pop!"


Hey, that's all what laissez faire capitalism is about. You take the bad with the good. No matter how bad.

[Aswald]

And no, I'm NOT justifying it.

[DJ_DEEM]

Whats next 9-11 the game?


uhhh what about that game terrifying 9/11 , the boot gb metal slug rip feturing bush and osama? that looked like a real hit!

[dsullo]

The concept of this game sickens me. I did click to website and saw the pictures and I could not even dream of downloading and simulating killing JFK. I am not against guns or violence. I play Halo 2, and other shooters.
Those are not depicting real life people and or real life events.

This all seems to real to me to participate in.

If you want to learn about Kennedy, watch the history channel. They have a great special called "The Men Who Killed Kennedy"

I feel better now

Dustin

[dsullo]

Imagine if your father, grandfather, daughter, son or loved one was violently killed and someone made a video game recreating the circumstances leading up to that loved ones death. Would you want people to enjoy that? Anyone who has children like me, could not possibly answer this question "YES".

Sorry I had to get that off my chest.

Happy Thanksgiving all.

[Ed Oscuro]

Good point dsullo...I'm afraid I went a bit off the deep end there, my argument was more about politics than the personal morality of the thing.

I was hoping it would've been somewhat different, but again, their webpage text is tasteless and their justification for "scoring" is pretty much a joke. Oh well.

[dsullo]

Ed

I was not directing my questions to you or anyone on this board. I just wanted to know that. My opinions are just my opinions. Nobody is right or wrong here, its just a matter of what you feel is right in your heart. My hear tells me this game is dead wrong
Dustin

[Ed Oscuro]

I felt it necessary to make it clear that I felt I should back off from some of the things I'd said earlier. You know, freedom of speech meaning you're free to say whatever you want, but then you have to live with it LOL

[evildead2099]

I don't approve of this. However, I don't beleive in censorship, so I will respond to this game with my $$$.. I won't buy it. I think that should get the point accross.

-Tritium

My sentiments exactly. If I don't like it, I won't play it. Simple as that.