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Gemini-Phoenix
11-24-2004, 04:19 AM
There's a huge rumour going around major game's collector's in the UK that Nintendo (Or someone else) is hoarding a whole bunch of games still in a warehouse...

We all know games like Paper Mario and Banjo Tooie were released towards the end of the N64's life - Just before the GameCube in fact... But suddenly, these games, and other's like Conker's Bad Fur Day and Pokemon Stadium II, Mario Party III, and many more all just suddenly vanished from game shop shelves...

Apparently, they were all recalled by Nintendo, and they are hoarding them...

Anyone else heard this rumour flying around recently? Man, i'd love to find out where that warehouse is and do it over! Lol.


Also, there must be someone with some knowledge, cos there is a particular seller on eBay who has sold over 500 brand new (Not sealed) copies of Paper Mario...

anagrama
11-24-2004, 04:57 AM
Why on Earth would Nintendo be hoarding them? So they can sell them one at a time for a premium on eBay? LOL
Of course they were taken off shop shelves - they had probably sat there for a year still at full price with no-one buying them. I remember N64 games hanging around on shelves WAAAAY longer than you would usually expect an outdated system's games to.
Yes, there's probably stockpiles of some games still in the hands of distributors/resellers, but it's not going to be Nintendo and it's hardly the great conspiracy you seem to be suggesting.
Hell, there's eBay sellers who still have sealed copies of rare Dreamcast games - I guess that means Sega must have recalled them all and are hoarding those aswell, right? :roll:

jdc
11-24-2004, 07:05 AM
Geez....you should live where I live. Want N64? You can get almost ANYTHING. One local shop still has 6 new copies of Perfect Dark. That's one of the reasons that I chose the N64 as my collection system. There's zero sense of urgency. I can take my time.

Cauterize
11-24-2004, 07:34 AM
Geez....you should live where I live. Want N64? You can get almost ANYTHING. One local shop still has 6 new copies of Perfect Dark. That's one of the reasons that I chose the N64 as my collection system. There's zero sense of urgency. I can take my time.

wanna track a Paper Mario down for me then? LOL ;)

EnemyZero
11-24-2004, 07:43 AM
theres brand new copies of perfect dark EVERYWHERE lol, my local TRU has tons of them for 5 bucks a pop, as welll as mega man 64 but unfortunately i still refuse to pay 54 bucks

Cauterize
11-24-2004, 07:46 AM
theres brand new copies of perfect dark EVERYWHERE lol, my local TRU has tons of them for 5 bucks a pop, as welll as mega man 64 but unfortunately i still refuse to pay 54 bucks

Megaman 64? i honestly didnt know this existed *adds to his wish list*

*goes to find screenshots n reviews*

pixelsnpolygons
11-24-2004, 07:58 AM
I have to agree with the Perfect Dark comments. My Toys R Us finally got rid of their hundreds of $5.00 copies a month or so ago - I'm staggered by the amount of sealed copies just floating around.

klausien
11-24-2004, 07:59 AM
Mega Man 64 is a port of Mega Man Legends.

Sylentwulf
11-24-2004, 08:53 AM
Why on Earth would Nintendo be hoarding them? So they can sell them one at a time for a premium on eBay? LOL
Of course they were taken off shop shelves - they had probably sat there for a year still at full price with no-one buying them. I remember N64 games hanging around on shelves WAAAAY longer than you would usually expect an outdated system's games to.
Yes, there's probably stockpiles of some games still in the hands of distributors/resellers, but it's not going to be Nintendo and it's hardly the great conspiracy you seem to be suggesting.
Hell, there's eBay sellers who still have sealed copies of rare Dreamcast games - I guess that means Sega must have recalled them all and are hoarding those aswell, right? :roll:

+1 - I HATE these stupid theories when they pop up. I could see a PERSON doing this, but Nintendo themselves? What, they're gonna hold em and make $10,000 off of it in another 5 years? Yeah....OK....

Gemini-Phoenix
11-24-2004, 09:04 AM
Nintendo. Another Wholesaler. It's all the same. I reckon they got recalled and then redistributed to people who sell on eBay!

I know some of the major DreamCast eBay sellers have got hoards and hoards of old Dreamcast stuff! Turelyon is one, and also Zoon42... I think there are a few others as well who must have a garage full of these games like Rez and the Street Fighters!

Perfect Dark is everywhere sealed. Pokemon Snap is the other common one I see a lot of too!

gamegirl79
11-24-2004, 09:12 AM
Maybe it's just a regional thing? I agree with the others, there's lots of N64 games in my area as well. I was at EB last night and saw Mario Party 3 for sale...Conker's Bad Fur Day I see lots of places as well....

anagrama
11-24-2004, 09:19 AM
Nintendo. Another Wholesaler. It's all the same. I reckon they got recalled and then redistributed to people who sell on eBay!


Wholesalers sell things. That's what they are there for.
I don't understand where you're coming from with the whole recall/conspiracy angle.

Griking
11-24-2004, 09:39 AM
I never cared for the "hoarding" label, it makes someone owning something sound like a negative. Even if it were true is Nintendo not allowed to own old stock of their games or something?

VGfan
11-24-2004, 10:29 AM
Yeah he probably means the PAL N64 games.

qbertandernie
11-24-2004, 11:02 AM
we had sealed paper marios all over town about 8 months ago for $5...i bought a couple but didnt realize they were cared about. noone bought them for a long time...

rbudrick
11-24-2004, 11:06 AM
OMG!11!! 1t'5 tr0000!!11!! T3h |\|1|\|t3|\|d0 15 h0/\rd1|\|g t3h r0mZZ!!11!! OMGOMG!11!one!1!!

-Rob

jetsetradio4ever
11-24-2004, 11:31 AM
Hey, maybe this 1337 73x7 guy is right. Then again, would we want another ET carts in the desert incident? Or, maybe, they're recalling them because they're like Polybius!! Ahhhh!!!!!!!! :roll: Honestly, why would they recall them?

Gemini-Phoenix
11-24-2004, 12:17 PM
Yes I am indeed on about PAL games. Sorry for the confusion.

And they weren't so much as recalled. Rather, places like Toys R Us simply cleared their shelves and returned them to make way for GameCube stock...

They didn;t want to reduce their price (Effectively making a loss) so they returned them to Nintendo to recoup the money (As no one was really buying games like Conker for £49.99 anyway)

It just happened all of a sudden one day. One day there were loads still on the shelf - The next day they had cleaned it out and had GameCube stuff there...

They used to have things like Pokemon Stadium II, Paper Mario, Banjo Tooie, Conker, Mario Party III all for full RRP (£49.99) then the cheaper games like Pokemon Stadium, Pokemon Snap, Perfect Dark, Excitebike 64 and others for under a tenner... And they weren't selling at all.


But you just ask any major UK eBay seller - They all have the same theory about a warehouse somewhere full of these games which have been forgotten about.

Either that, or they have been shipped abroard... After all, a lot of our sealed DreamCast games these days come from a place in Spain or Italy...

fishsandwich
11-24-2004, 12:48 PM
You have to wonder how many RARE games (the company, not the status) were overproduced... Perfect Dark and Conkers are perfect examples.

I know Perfect Dark sold well, but it must not have sold nearly as well as they expected for a spiritual sequel to Goldeneye... you can find sealed copies in EBgames all over the place. Same for Conkers, though I expect that game didn't sell that well from the get-go. I paid full price, too... I expected a shortage.

I have added nothing to this conversation.

Cheers

:D

goatdan
11-24-2004, 01:02 PM
First off, it wouldn't be Nintendo that would've collected the games. Stores do not purchase the games directly from Nintendo. They purchase them from wholesalers who Nintendo sells too. Here's why:

If Nintendo produces a game that they feel won't sell very well, they would be stuck shipping one or two of it to various locations. That would be a TON of overhead.

On the other hand, a wholesaler gets a case of games - anywhere from 24 to 100+ usually - and then breaks it up. So five Gamestops each get two, five EBs each get one, etc. They then ship these with other games to reduce shipping costs. So a company may order and receive 500 games in a shipment, but only one title of a few things. Nintendo doesn't want the overhead of doing this, and therefore sells things to wholesalers.

Nintendo wouldn't recall games to sell to wholesalers. The people that get things for mass quantity sale on eBay or where ever are getting them from wholesalers. If a wholesaler agreed to take product back from stores that weren't selling whatever they were, they would find somewhere else to sell it. That's why the GOAT Store for instance has a few new cases of Lynx games sitting around.

Hope that clears things up :)

udisi
11-24-2004, 01:48 PM
most places here cleared them up I bought like 10 copies of Paper Mario from TRU for like 9$ a piece about a year ago.

izret101
11-24-2004, 09:03 PM
OMG!11!! 1t'5 tr0000!!11!! T3h |\|1|\|t3|\|d0 15 h0/\rd1|\|g t3h r0mZZ!!11!! OMGOMG!11!one!1!!

-Rob

I laughed my ass off.

Anyways generaly a recall means the games get destroyed in some fashion or another.

grayrobertos
11-25-2004, 12:53 AM
with all that talk of a n64 addon maybe nintendo have made one, and maybe it improves the graphics or puts goldeneye online or somehting random that everyone would want. So theyve got all the games of the shelf so that when they release it they can sell the games at a premium. LOL thats the only thing that wud make any sence for this. (well I can dream).

Seriously im from the uk and there was a shortage of these games when they wer brand new. Lets be realistic.

DaBargainHunta
11-25-2004, 01:32 AM
I pcked up a sealed Perfect Dark for $5 a couple of months ago at Wal-Mart, and I got a sealed Conker last week from TRU for $2 and change. My TRU also had sealed copies of WWF No Mercy and WCW Mayhem among others.

Gemini-Phoenix
11-25-2004, 06:42 AM
Talking of Goldeneye - It looks far superior when played on an emulator (PJ64) on my PC!!! I have never seen it look so good!!!

Mr.FoodMonster
11-25-2004, 10:15 AM
I wouldn't be surprized. You know how here in the states recently that Gamestop, EB stopped taking/selling NES SNES (And Genesis, but thats 'just because'). Ninteno ORDERED those NES and SNES games back, all of them. Rare to common. Many think its because of all the new re-releases on GBA and such, so its harder (hahaha) to get those games in original form. So, with the DS out, we are going to get an onslaught of N64 remakes, and Nintendo dosn't want you going out and buying the original version. So, it's a good stragegy for making money.

anagrama
11-25-2004, 10:22 AM
Ninteno ORDERED those NES and SNES games back, all of them.

Have you got the slightest shred of evidence to back up that claim?

Mr.FoodMonster
11-25-2004, 10:56 AM
Actually, somebody working there told me this, I didn't think it was true myself, but I asked somebody else a week or so later, and they gave me the same answer. It would make sence, but I dont have any other proof.

izret101
11-25-2004, 11:48 AM
It does make sense but they wouldn't make enough money off of it to do it. They would probably draw loses from it.

Also GoldenEye online would KICK ASS!