Screw you, Dragon Warrior VII!

[boatofcar]

I've put 122 hours into this game, and just failed for the 3rd time in a row to beat Orgodemir. I can always get him down to his last form, but then he freaking uses "all remaining magic" on me....twice! How is it even possible to use "al remaining magic" twice? So I say, screw you, Dragon Warrior VII! Almost a year ago, I bought FFX, and promised myself that I'd beat DWVII before opening it. Here it sits in front of me, still shrinkwrapped, begging me to open it.

Is there any quick and easy strategy for beating Orgodemir, so I don't have to break this promise to myself? All my characeters are around level 40.

[digitalpress]

I finished the first disk but never went on to complete the game. I liked it but I rarely get through those really long RPGs.

The US version FAQ I saw offered very little help in the final battle. The Japanese version though, looked much more detailed. Here's the bit about the final boss:

BOSS: Orgo Demirra:
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Orgo Demirra's first form is fairly easy to beat. He has some nasty breath
attacks, but these can be easily countered with Fubarha. Stampeding Sheep will
do quite a lot of damage at this point (about 400 a pop if you succeed and are
in your 30s in terms of levels) which is comparable to even some of the toughest
techniques like Ultima Sword. A Bikilt/War Cry Charge/Seiken-Zuki combo works
well too. Use Hustle Dance to cure your party, using the Sage Stone for good
measure will help too. A lot of Orgo Demirra's attacks are physical, so if you
up your physical defense with something like War Song your chances will be
raised. Try to conserve your MP for the upcoming battle though.


Once you deal enough damage, Orgo Demirra will return to his humanoid form, and
you'll have to fight him like that.


BOSS: Orgo Demirra, second form:
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This form of Orgo Demirra has the double attack you've grown to be accustomed to
when fighting DQVII bosses. In addition, he'll use a wide variety of attacks,
both physical and magical. His nastiest is the flame he throws from his hands,
along with a strong Ionazun. In addition, his gaze can put you to sleep, so it
helps to have a technique that can awake sleeping characters. If he eliminates
your support spells with Freezing Wave, you'll need to cast them again. Since
his primary attacks come in the form of magic and flame, casting Magic Barrier
and Fubarha, and making sure you have good resistance before entering the fight
is very important. If you have more than one character that can heal the entire
party without using MP (Hustle Dance, Sage Stone, etc.) that will help quite a
good deal. Physical attacks work well on this form of Orgo Demirra; you can keep
calling the sheep to trample him. If you have Maribel in the party, you can have
her use Payback to return any attacks he uses too; free Ionazuns are always
nice. :)

Once you beat up Orgo Demirra again, he'll change into a weird mix between his
human and monster forms.

BOSS: Orgo Demirra, third form:
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This form gets really powerful. It has double attacks, and some really vicious
physical attacks that deal well over 200 points of damage. Fortunately his HP
aren't too high in this form, and with good damaging techniques (Sheep, Seiken-
zuki, Ultima Sword, etc) you can take him down in only a few rounds. Most of his
attacks are physical, with a few "breath weapon" type attacks, so having high
defense and breath resistance is important for this battle. Overall I've found
this form to be less troublesome than his second, because he relies a lot less
on group attacks.

Once you beat this form of Demirra, he starts to weaken, and lose control of his
body. In desperation, he undergoes another transformation and uses all his power
to try to kill you.


Boss: Orgo Demirra, final form.
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Make sure you've got Magic Barrier up and all your characters in good health
when you start this fight, because Orgo Demirra will cast Madante, and if you
get caught in it with even moderate amounts of HP and no defense, it's dirt nap
time for you. Actually he will cast Madante throughout the battle, which is
cheating (since it's supposed to use up all your MP) but he does it anyway.
He'll also occasionally sprout monsters to help him attack. You need to be able
to do a fair amount of damage to him quickly, because he will Meditiate, which
heals him 500 HP. Fortunately this form of Demirra is very slow. Odds are your
entire party will act before the round is over. Pull out all the stops on him,
using your most powerful physical techniques. Using Ultima Sword and two
characters calling Sheep, I was able to take him down in five rounds with little
trouble.

Orgo Demirra is astonished that you could have defeated him, and dies. As his
world collapses in on itself, you escape via the flying platform you were
standing on.

[boatofcar]

Thanks Joe, that was so much more helpful than the US version the the FAQ, which was what I was using. I'm going in, wish me luck!

[boatofcar]

I emerge victorious! The Stampede spell was the trick, he was no problem this time! Yea! I can start FFX now! Woo Hoo! :-D

[kainemaxwell]

Caus eof work I haven't really had the chance to work on any rpgs like I planned to try to beat least one or two before Xmas. Mainly FF9 (at the Gulug Ruins) and Lunar 2 (level building in epilogue). And FFX still ticks me off.

[Six Switch]

Good job!Over Christmas I mgiht get that game,then I will havetime to play it. :D :-D :/

[kainemaxwell]

Main RPG I want for Christmas is Kingdom Hearts. :)

[Lady Jaye]

DW VII is one of the remaining RPGs for the PSX that I have yet to get (along with Final Fantasy Chronicles and Lunar 2 complete). In any case, I should concentrate on the RPGs I already have (aside from FFX, which I can't play because I don't currently have access to a PS2).

[Revoltor]

So how many hours in total did it take boat? To beat the whole game that is.

I don't think I've heard of anyone beating it.

[boatofcar]

So how many hours in total did it take boat? To beat the whole game that is.

I don't think I've heard of anyone beating it.

123 and some change...by far the longest RPG I've ever played. To those that want to play it, be forwarned...the middle of the game is pretty slow-you unlock a new island, they have a problem, you beat a boss, repeat 15 or 20 times...and I'd say at least 30 hours were spent just gaining levels. The job system is a neat feature though, it provides more incentive for fighting around than just gaining experience and gold. BTW, I didn't even get to the hidden parts of the game; I only found a couple of the ? shards, which you can use to unlock a new dungeon. I also didn't find all the tiny medals, but after 123 hours I just wanted to get the darn thing over with :)