Harsh criticism of Sega and its supporters

[evildead2099]

If you've visited http://segasucks.net, I'd like to know of your opinion concerning that website and its author.

[Cauterize]

its just some immature crappy web page.. i havent seen such a poorly made site ever! Some of the pages dotn even have titles!

and the bottom line is: Sega DOESNT suck!

[Flack]

Top of the page.


The factual and accurate information about Sega contained in the pages of this site is targeted at intelligent and open minded Americans.

Bottom of the page.


DO NOT VIEW THE PAGE WITH NETSCAPE, AOL OR ON YOUR FUCKING DREAMCAST!

I didn't bother to continue.

[Cauterize]

I didn't bother to continue.

not suprised! why people set up websites like this is beyond me...

[Half Japanese]

This particular "style" of site isn't all that uncommon really. Think of this guy as Maddox or Something Awful (Truth Media and Your Band Sucks in particular) without the effectiveness, writing skills or diversity. A site done solely to solicit hatemail from other sadsack individuals who should all agree upon a time and a place to ingest "special" kool-aid.

[evildead2099]

My thoughts exactly, although I did go to the trouble of exploring that website to see if it contained any redeeming information.

I'm all for offering constructive criticism and deconstructing questionable marketing strategies (i.e. "blast processing"), but that website, quite frankly, makes a poor example of the internet's potential to provide people with access to information, opinions, and entertainment.


The factual and accurate information about Sega contained in the pages of this site is targeted at intelligent and open minded Americans.

That is a pompous and ethnocentric approach to preparing visitors for "facts" if ever there was one.

The author is terribly narrow-minded and lacks tact. There are several examples in his responses to criticism which demonstrate that he is all too content to resort to vague retorts in attempts to excuse his bias.

He has the nerve to suggest that the Sega Dreamcast (of all of Sega's systems) is the main reason why Sega "sucks."

Since when do sales equate greatness? Technologically speaking, Beta is superior to VHS; the fact that VHS dominated the home video market does not make it a better format.

[evildead2099]

I've visited websites which openly promote bigotry that seem reasonable and fair compared to the crap that I read at http://www.segasucks.net. Even Fox News seems "fair and balanced" in comparison.

[Gapporin]

By the looks of it, he also hates Macintosh. So there you go.

[evildead2099]

Yep, and he takes a shot at the Netscape browser without saying anything negative about Micro$oft's Internet Explorer.

[kai123]

I've visited websites which openly promote bigotry that seem reasonable and fair compared to the crap that I read at http://www.segasucks.net. Even Fox News seems "fair and balanced" in comparison.


The dude hates Sega so what? I hate Sega too. I feel the same way he does. Sega makes all kinds of promises and never delivers. You think Sega craps gold bricks? Great, go to a fansite and lavish in all the love you are giving a faceless corporation.


Is it really fair to compare a website about why they hate a company to racists websites? Doesn't seem that fair to me.

[Lemmy Kilmister]

I think this site would take the cake for worst sega page ever.

link-http://www.alexkidd.com/

[evildead2099]

Is it really fair to compare a website about why they hate a company to racists websites? Doesn't seem that fair to me.

Consider how I compared them. I didn't say that I have more respect for the views promoted in racist websites than I have for the views promoted in segaslayer's website; I stated that overtly racist websites exercise more tact than does segaslayer. In other words, I've read stuff by racists which do more to accommdate visitors than does segaslayer. I never said that anti-Sega views are necessarily as bad as anti-ethnicity views.

[Richter Belmount]

heh this site was made by a real uber dork

[evildead2099]

You think Sega craps gold bricks? Great, go to a fansite and lavish in all the love you are giving a faceless corporation.

Why do you assume that I love Sega? I scarcely said much in defense of Sega; most of my words criticised the author of that website for the manner in which he promotes his opinion.

You can hate Sega all you want. I won't think as poorly of you as the author of that website so long as you you refrain from exercising tactics that compare to his.

Have you seen Red vs. Blue's take on 'real life vs. the internet' (featuring animation from Halo)?

[Flack]

I glimpsed in the FAQ where he says he's never owned a Sega product. It's like, hey, Sega sucks so much that he's never had to try out any of their products in order to determine their level of sucktitude.

I'm sure when I was grade school kids wrote notes on a similar level of intelligence. It's just they didn't have the world wide web to post them on.

[Neil Koch]

-_-

bad design and not funny... reminds me of a crappy GeoCitiies site.

[Maxx]

Ok... Quote Q: So aren't you just pissed off at Sega for some reason? Like, you bought one of their games and didn't like it or something?
Q: I have never owned any Sega product or used any Sega service. I have more sense than that.

If you have never owned a product or use any services from a company, how do you hate them so much? I mean come on now, I've never used a iMac so should I hate Macintosh?

[SMB]

Why Sega sucks:

I'll give you five reasons why Sega sucks:

1. Dreamcast

2. Saturn

3. 32X

4. Sega CD

5. Game Gear

The bottom line is that SEGA ALWAYS FAILS and thats why they suck.


I feel like taking a visit to his house with my friend the...

http://www.a-weddingday.com/jds/JDSPersonalizedBatSm.jpg

[Daria]

Wow... he actually has a section of the site devoted to making fun of the web design on other people's sites.

Can you say hypocrite?

[goatdan]

Wow... he actually has a section of the site devoted to making fun of the web design on other people's sites.

Can you say hypocrite?

Heh...

I was doing better Web design in 1995... and sadly I'm not kidding.

If you are a hateboi, that's fine. Go ahead and hate for whatever reason you want and you have every right to hate. This site is so stupid though, even if I hated Sega I would think it was a horrible site. Lets see here:

"DO NOT VIEW THE PAGE WITH NETSCAPE, AOL OR ON YOUR F---ING DREAMCAST!" (followed by "I hate Macintosh" logo). - Really mature. Ironically, even Slate (Microsoft's own e-magazine) has now recommended using Mozilla (based on Netscape) as a browser. Regardless, this site managed to crash my computer in IE service pack 2. So the only thing you support doesn't even work right?

"A: Read the About page, moron" - Yes. Demean your visitors who ask why you hate Sega. That definitely stresses your point well. That's like me saying to you, "Oh, so you voted for _____? You're a MORON and have no values!" Yes, now we each see eachother on a level playing field.

"Speed simply wasn't a concern for Nintendo who were more interested in the depth and creativity of their games." (In "Blast-Processing" article.) No really... blast processing was just a term that Sega made up? That's amazing! The argument does nothing from that point on.

I'm open to honest criticism and I will even seek it out when forming an opinion about something, but there is nothing worthwhile at that site. I'm not even going to go further, but I could site a million reasons why it is wrong or misinformed. I am not by any means saying Sega is perfect, and I don't believe that myself, but that is just pure stupidity.

[Mr Mort]

He's certainly entitled to his opinion, but he has no class, no tact, and resorts to insulting the intelligence of those who disagree with him.

What's worse, he doesn't even have his facts down right, or eggagerates to glorify his ridiculous ideals:


Sega crawled back to Japan to try one more time. They returned with the inferior Dreamcast which after only one year on the market Sega announced they were cutting off support for it. Sega was reduced to the level of third party developer.

Whatever, the DC was realeased in 1999 and the last game released in north america was in 2002.

If you're going to be a fanboy, at least do a little research so you can have some credibility.

I can see why some people are pissed at Sega after how they handled the Sega CD, 32X, and Saturn. But I've been happy with Sega regardless, especially with all the great import titles the Saturn had to offer.

[goatdan]

Sega crawled back to Japan to try one more time. They returned with the inferior Dreamcast which after only one year on the market Sega announced they were cutting off support for it. Sega was reduced to the level of third party developer.

Whatever, the DC was realeased in 1999 and the last game released in north america was in 2002.

And games are still coming out in Japan...

[Fuyukaze]

As much as I hate to admit it, he does one thing right. He shows me what the future holds. Totaly biased, ignorant, and usless people. I only hope our fellow young DP members are better. While I'd like to belive 5 years isnt so long a time ago, aparently even 2 years is to long to remember for some. I could be wrong by assuming the person in question is young, but by their idiocy alone I cant imagine being to far from the truth in making such a guess.

Sega made alot of mistakes in their past, this much is true. In that light, so did EVERY company that has ever released a game system. Nintendo has even released a few. Though it be arguable. Sony to a point has done the same as well. Personaly, I guess I'm biased as I consider the DC to be one of their strongest systems as it did so much straight from the box. 4 controler ports, atatched dial up modemn, and more. Beyond the X-box, I cant think of any system that had as much potential at launch. Like I said though, I have an admitidly biased opinion on that.

[postulio]

all of you guys are so damn pathetic im laughing my ass off right now.


a) half of what he says is true

b) he knows youll make fun of him and his site and calls you all losers to begin with, and yet all of you flock and do as he says.

c) who cares about site design, he gets his point across and it works, it pisses off a bigger bunch of narrow minded fellas, who come here and flame him.

d) he tells no lies, you may not agree that the dreamcast sucks, but it did indeed flop and drove them out of the hardware biz for good. sega was an underdog that never could. personally i believe the genesis was their best console, but maybe its because its the only thing that made money and did fail after about 2 years. (some stuff failed after less than 1)

now dont get me wrong i dont agree with him 100%, but its mostly true, sega probably has had 2 or so successful products, and their current company statute reflects thier failure.

regardless, its his opinion and hes entitled to it, its just funny how all you who disagree with him start the funny flame war when he obviously doesnt care and has already won since you did in fact start flaming him.

[Promophile]

He makes some decent points. Personally I'm STILL pissed at Sega for what they did to the Saturn, and the fact that I bought the saturn and didn't get a playstation until 3 years after release because of it. The only reason I'm not a rabid ant-sega person is that the saturn had Dragon Force :) .

[evildead2099]

all of you guys are so damn pathetic im laughing my ass off right now.


a) half of what he says is true

b) he knows youll make fun of him and his site and calls you all losers to begin with, and yet all of you flock and do as he says.

c) who cares about site design, he gets his point across and it works, it pisses off a bigger bunch of narrow minded fellas, who come here and flame him.

d) he tells no lies, you may not agree that the dreamcast sucks, but it did indeed flop and drove them out of the hardware biz for good. sega was an underdog that never could. personally i believe the genesis was their best console, but maybe its because its the only thing that made money and did fail after about 2 years. (some stuff failed after less than 1)

now dont get me wrong i dont agree with him 100%, but its mostly true, sega probably has had 2 or so successful products, and their current company statute reflects thier failure.

regardless, its his opinion and hes entitled to it, its just funny how all you who disagree with him start the funny flame war when he obviously doesnt care and has already won since you did in fact start flaming him.

I didn't start this thread to suggest that he's wrong; I started it to call for impressions of his website and how he goes about making arguments. Many of the people who posted here refrained from flaming him; instead, we criticised him for his obvious bias and manner of defending his opinion.

There's a reason why North American schools aren't obligated to teach kids to make written arguments using ad hominem attacks to intimidate anyone who dares to disagree. One has no need to boast about the use of fact in order to convince others that one's opinion is the 'right' one; facts speak for themselves.

As previously stated, I've visited self-identified neo-nazi websites whose manner of argument is more welcoming to those who care to disagree with the principal opinion in question.

Not everything he says is truth; a lot of it is distortion built into skewed terminology. For instance, he suggests that Sega came "crawling back" to the market with a new console. One could use his rhetoric to label any company that discontinued the production of a particular console a 'failure.'

Incorporating one's console with features that have proven themselves to be successful in other platforms does not make one's console a rip-off, much less an inherently inferior one. The Dreamcast did not "steal" technology that was available on PCs for years because Sega chose to design it as a console with online capabilities.

I visited his website looking for constructive criticisms of Sega; I left feeling disgusted by what I saw yet glad that I wasn't intimidated by the vulgar tactics that he uses since I can recognise them for what they are. This thread isn't meant to challenge him; its a call for impressions of his website and the manner by which he argues his opinion. There's no need to flame him; the fact that he openly admits to harassing visitors of Sega websites by maligning those who don't outright dislike Sega says enough about his character. Conduct a search for websites containing the term http://www.segasucks.net and you're likely to come across plenty of references to surly posts that he left in Sega-related guestbooks.

[EnemyZero]

i didn't go past the enter screen, albeit everyone has there right to an opinion, some people just over do it, and apparently this guy has to much free-time

[anagrama]

*Newsflash* 13-year old troll runs a shitty website. And now the weather...

[evildead2099]

*Newsflash* 13-year old troll runs a shitty website. And now the weather... LOL . He claims to be 17 years old, by the way.

[postulio]

stating that calling his arguments wrong because he biased is stupid, of course hes biased, his freaking website is called sega sucks, and he says so on the first page.



get over it sega sucked and therefore it died.


find something else to argue


/end thread.

[Lady Jaye]

Geez, you'd almost think that Postullio was behind that website... :roll:

I don't care either way about Sega; don't hate them but I'm not a fangirl either. Anyway, hateboyism has one point in common with fanboyism: both fail to view the object of their obsession in gray hues. Instead, everything is in black and white (the "Sega sucks therefore Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft rules" type of illogical argument). As it was pointed out, Sega did make mistakes, but so did Microsoft (the size of the Xbox is part of the reason behind the console's failure in Japan), Sony (the PSP might fail for the same reason that past handheld consoles failed against Nintendo, regardless of actual quality of the product), and Nintendo (see the N64, the Playstation project and the Virtual Boy...).

My point is, we shouldn't even pay attention to the mad ramblings of a kid looking to create controversy by blasting every game/computer company that exist, except for (apparently) Microsoft.

[SMB]

Why do you bring so much hate to a company that has brought so many cool and unusual things to the world of gaming?

I am not a "SEGA Freak" but I do like all of Sega's consoles.But I think it is just a ashame that someone can rant on and on about something that frankly...they do not get.

Sure you say you own no Sega consoles but that right there says more than enough about you.Fanboy? maybe. But all I can say is that there is something to that site of yours, it is all either right or wrong...it's wrong.

A PS2 is all you own, correct? How can you say Dreamcast "sucks" when it was the first 128 bit next-gen console? It "has" amazing capabilities and many many great games were made for it. Where is Dreamcast now you ask? Games are still being made for it, Games like Chaos Field(December 2004), Psyvariar 2,Shikigami no Shiro II, Baldr Force EXE, After..., and many more.

Genesis came out before the SNES and the Genesis outsold it in the U.S...why you may ask? People wanted fun games.

Game Gear...this little handheld was capable of pulling of graphics far surpassed the green blurry Dot Matrix system, the GameBoy. I think I speak for all gamers (Sega fans and non-fans) that you really have no place to speak about Sega, Sega has and will always produce games that will far surpass the expectations of a immature boy like yourself.

SEGA has produced many great systems,games and add-ons.
I am sure you are the type that thinks Nintendo, Sony and Sega are the only people to ever make a video game system. Nieve.

Sega Mark III
Sega Master System
Sega Genesis
Sega Game Gear
Sega Nomad
Sega Dreamcast
Sega Sega Sega

P.S: Get a job, girlfriend or boyfriend and make something of your life.

I think by giving him this e-mail, it may set his mind on another course.

[Push Upstairs]

So someone with first time website making abilites cranks out a website. *yawn*

I've seen better sites on the net.


The site isnt even worth getting slightly annoyed over.

[EnemyZero]

i agree, anyone who is annoyed by his site, is just silly. Besides the crappy design, he is just trying to piss people off, he probably dances to the tune of the hate e-mail he gets. Im a die hard sega-fanboy so be it, but who cares...if you like sega...well you like sega, and if you don't you don't, but i can say he lacks class, anyone who goes out of there way to this extent to bash something has issues LOL

[Howie6925]

The guys an idiot.

I just think its funny he took all that time to write, research and setup that web site to bash Sega.

[SegaTecToy]

OK the guy is a complete retard, losing time bashing a company that doesn't even make consoles anymore. The site is so stupid that we can't even make fun of it because it is a joke already.

[Crush Crawfish]

Whatever. He's never owned a sega system and he hates sega. His loss. Now if you'll excuse I'm gonna go play skies of arcadia on my dreamcast. 8-)

[Cauterize]

Geez, you'd almost think that Postullio was behind that website... :roll:

Agreed.. what do you have against sega Postullio?!
also one quick question for you postullio, How old are you?

[slip81]

It's fine that this guy hates Sega, he's entitled to his own opinon, what irks me is how ignorant he is about it.

If you're gonna hate something fine, but at least hate it for a reason other than "the systems didn't make money so therefore they must suck." The guy has never even owned a Sega product.

He also says they Sega sucks because all of their games were crap and didn't make any money. Well this guy must be living in an alternate universe because last time I checked Sega has been doing alright finacially since they went third party.

[goatdan]

stating that calling his arguments wrong because he biased is stupid, of course hes biased, his freaking website is called sega sucks, and he says so on the first page.



get over it sega sucked and therefore it died.


find something else to argue


/end thread.

Wow. Your arguments defending his Web site are about as well constructed as the arguments on his Web site about Sega sucking...

:hmm:

And making an argument that is biased means that it doesn't have a basis in reality. It would be like me jumping around and claiming that I was totally against eating cheese, and my only reasoning is YOU ARE FREAKING MORON FOR DISAGREEING! CHEEZE SUXORZZ!!!11

Which, apparently would make my argument half right by your standards.

[pookninja]

i didnt go to the site,and i wont.sega doesnt suck.i enjoy most of sega games over the years,and i am a big fan of sega games and systems.why does it seem that alot of folks want to pick at sega?i would say,at least 80% of the games sega makes are great games and better then most the crap thats out there.so whats with the hate for sega?

[Fuyukaze]

If they had simply stuck with the facts instead of useing half truths and outright lies about it, I wouldnt mind much. If they had owned any of the systems they hate or despise, that would be another thing as well. The sad truth is, they give the impresion of having a childish form of logic. I never owned the systems so therefore, they must suck. Doesnt matter how much sales they racked, doesnt matter how well its launch was, and it doesnt matter how long the system was actualy supported. None of these things aparently mattered to them because they didnt own the system(s) and couldnt imagine it being any good. If it was so good, surely they would have got it instead of what they did. Getting their kicks off of the amount of hatemail they recieve? This is good? They must lead a very boreing, lonely life to only find joy at the hatred of others.

Personaly, of the 4 gaming systems (Nintendo, Sega, Sony, Microsoft) I consider Sega to have the best first party games available to it. I know Nintendo has just as many franchises at their disposal, but Nintendo has made a habit of not releasing games untill many years after they released in Japan. Just look at the Fire Emblem series. True, they have finaly released it in the states. Just how long after it came out on the SNES though? Is this my opinion? Yes, it is. I belive I have the right to have an opionion. I dont need to make my own web page to flame or praise a company either. Some people may not agree with me, and thats fine. They have just as much right to it as I. At the very least though, try to be objective in it though. There is no law requiring you to be so, but it may help in giving you the apearence of not being ignorant.

Often times its hard to give objective critisism for a game system. When you have owned it, you are biased because either it did not live up to your personal expectations, or it outperformed them. If you never owned it, you have the luxery of being able to stand back and watch what people are buying or even if they are buying it at all. Thing is, your never playing it so you never learn if people should even be buying it in the first place.

[postulio]

no i have no ties to the site.

i defend him cause i agree, however i did own 3 sega consoles and an active collector of genesis/sega cd stuff, there are gems indeed, but when you look at the company in a nutshell and its decisions, they more crazy than nintendo (i own every nintendo console)

all arguments are biased dude, thats the point of an argument, to bash one thing over another. your argument has to favor one side (definition of bias) in order for it to be an argument. a debate however is different. i am 20 years old and remember all of sega's claim to fame.

and whats this thing about him not having any points just because his html skills suck? who cares about how the site looks, if i ever make a site regardless of contents, it will all be black and white.

and it seems he took the time to research all this and put it together because he, like us, has a passion for video games. as misguided and unevolved his arguments are, they ring true. all of his opinions grow from cold hard facts.



the most sane thing i read on this thread is that a game doesnt have to be successful monetary wise for it to be fun, which is where some of you (including me) disagree with him, but the market agrees, if the game doesnt sell, its crap and the company goes out of business.

lets end this and pay homage to a misguided yet sometimes fun company by playing a game of sonic.



side note: i can play Skies of Arcadia on my Gamecube and its better than the dreamcast version will ever be hahaha.

[Algol]

Just some angry kid who hates Sega. His only argument is that they've released consoles that didn't always sell well. Not really worth my, or anyone else's time. :sob:

[Muscelli]

why should he hate sega because their consoles didnt sell well? He never bought one... he has no reason to be mad.

OH MY GOD! FUCK U NEC!!!!!! I HATE TURBO DUO, BECAUSE UMMMM... THE CONSOLE WASNT POPULAR!


yeahhh.... that person is really sad.. i mean, god.. hes beyond dorky bashing a company which he has never experienced.

[SMB]

Now if you'll excuse I'm gonna go play skies of arcadia on my dreamcast. 8-)

I hear you hear :)

[Kepone]

I'd like to buy the domain name and then force the guy to pay me $$$ to get it back. LOL

What a 'tard. He must have used a free webpage generator because the site should be nominated for a "worst website ever" award. :roll: @_@

[goatdan]

all arguments are biased dude, thats the point of an argument, to bash one thing over another. your argument has to favor one side (definition of bias) in order for it to be an argument. a debate however is different. i am 20 years old and remember all of sega's claim to fame.

So to make an argument, you have to "bash one thing over another"? So, a valid argument would be that "YOU ARE FREAKING MORON FOR DISAGREEING! CHEEZE SUXORZZ!!!11" If I wanted to debate with you though, I would then have to say, "I don't like cheese because I am lactose intolerate. Because of that, I think cheese sucks."

So in the first one, I am presenting an clear and valid argument, and in the second one I am presenting a "debate"?

Hmmmm... (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=argument) Your argument seems very odd. Isn't an argument by definition "a discussion in which disagreement is expressed; a debate"? Wouldn't that mean that to have a debate, you would need an actual point?


all of his opinions grow from cold hard facts.

I actually am lactose intolerant*. Should I put up a site called cheesesucks.com because of it and then when I post that ANYONE WHO EATS CHEESE IS A MORON!!! no one would have any right to disagree with me on that basis?

If I presented my argument in the second way, people would understand why I don't like cheese and I wouldn't just look like an idiot. This guy looks like an idiot, and your reasoning of why you should support him is about as equally goofy. Unless you truly believe that CHEEZE SUXORZ!!111! from just what I posted, you should be able to tell that isn't a valid argument.



* As a side note, I used this all to illustrate a point. I am lactose intolerant, but I still LOVE cheese. It's a bad combination :(

[evildead2099]

OH MY GOD! FUCK U NEC!!!!!! I HATE TURBO DUO, BECAUSE UMMMM... THE CONSOLE WASNT POPULAR!
LOL LOL LOL

[EnemyZero]

postulio why would you play skies of arcadia on your gamecube...gamecube hasnt been selling well...doesnt it suck? x_x

[YoshiM]

Portsulio, from reading your posts over time it's like you enjoy hopping into threads to piss on the parades.

It's one thing to have opinions. Opinions are fine and dandy. But if you are out to sway people from not buying a product from a particular company, you gotta have all the facts lined up. His site is no less misleading than the advertising Sega used, hell even what Sony used (if I'm not mistaken, didn't they launch an N64 into the air and blow it up with the line "Why is Playstation better? It's got MORE GAMMMMESS!").

He does tell what happens that cause the fall of Sega, but not the "whys". Okay, the Master System gets crushed by the NES because "Nintendo has an iron grip". Grip on what, the market? Yeah the do. Why? They had a North American monopoly that prevented publishers from publishing to that system. "In a nutshell" (and even though I like Nintendo products), Nintendo should be the one being hung out to dry for their tactics. If he had more of that, he'd have a better argument and something more substantial than saying "they suck" and giving the briefest of histories on Sega's failures.

To be honest, I swear he must have owned a Sega product at some point. Other than perhaps sheer boredom, to "stir the pot" (which is a popular thing to do these days) or that he's just plain spiteful there would be no reason to take the time to get a domain (a mere $14.95 through his registrar), set up a server ("NS1.ILLFUCKINGHOSTIT.COM"-how quaint) and then make the site itself. Skimming his archived updates it seems to me this kid is generally spiteful, at least on the safe haven of the anonymous web.

[Flack]

Really there are three ways for a website to get hits. One involves good content, the second involves porn. The third involves trolling. Since this thread now has 50 responses, guess which one that website's using.

[rxd]

Well, I don't really know what the big deal is. So this guy has an opinion, whoop dee-doo. Is he kind of over the top? Yup. Is it kind of stupid to attack game systems you've never owned? I think so. Do I understand where all his bitterness is coming from since he never spent money on any Sega systems? Nope. But does he make some valid points? Yes.

But does Sega suck? I don't think so....

Actually I think it's actually worse than that. Sega doesn't suck, Sega is irrelevant. They are no longer a player. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Sega basher and I own 3 of there systems (and bought them all when they first came out) SMS, Genesis and Dreamcast. But does anyone really care what Sega does anymore? Anyone besides the Sega fanboys on sites like this I mean. Really now Sega has NO mindshare in the console game industry anymore. Hell, I don't even know what games they make anymore, let alone for what system and what is coming out from them in the future. How the mighty have fallen....

Irrelevant, an ugly word that describes the state of Sega today.

Sega - They don't suck but who cares?

[DynastyLawyer]

Actually I think it's actually worse than that. Sega doesn't suck, Sega is irrelevant. They are no longer a player.

I dare you to play Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue II, and Nightshade, and repeat that wearing a strait face.


Sega - They don't suck but who cares?

Nintendo as a company sucks. They got lucky with the SNES and NES, but they produced the Virtua Boy, the N64, and the game boy color, all which did not sell well. Therefore, Nintendo sucks.

How do you feel?


all arguments are biased dude, thats the point of an argument, to bash one thing over another.

I've been waiting to use this line: "Some world class philosopher you are, moron."


if the game doesnt sell, its crap and the company goes out of business.

Right, right. Grand Theft Auto didn't really sell except to a niche market. Rad Racer didn't perform that great to keep Squaresoft exectutives wallets fat. So therefore, every game they produce is, was, and will be a joke and the company is destined to go under. You seriously believe that sort of "reason?"


side note: i can play Skies of Arcadia on my Gamecube and its better than the dreamcast version will ever be hahaha.

I can state that a pink elephant sitting in my room is better than the grey ones at the zoo, but when I don't provide proof or reasoning, people start to get suspicious...


It's fine that this guy hates Sega, he's entitled to his own opinon, what irks me is how ignorant he is about it.

If you're gonna hate something fine, but at least hate it for a reason other than "the systems didn't make money so therefore they must suck."

Ding ding ding ding ding!!!

[Famidrive-16]

This particular "style" of site isn't all that uncommon really. Think of this guy as Maddox or Something Awful (Truth Media and Your Band Sucks in particular) without the effectiveness, writing skills or diversity. A site done solely to solicit hatemail from other sadsack individuals who should all agree upon a time and a place to ingest "special" kool-aid.

You mean YBS is supposed to be funny? I thought it was just some pretensious whining Buddyhead critic complaining about Radiohead, Good Charlotte and demo tapes...

[Ernster]

To the guy above stop saying that the N64 was a failure. it wasnt! Im sure anyway company would love to sell 32 million units of there product. Id say N64 had stable and loyal fanbase :-P

Anyway I dont give a toss about Sega but the guy is a loser for making a site about it. -_-

[bargora]

Really there are three ways for a website to get hits. One involves good content, the second involves porn. The third involves trolling. Since this thread now has 50 responses, guess which one that website's using.
What? Porn on the internet?