The "I hate FPS and sports games" thread

[Beefy Hits]

That's right you moral majority. If you hate these two genres of games, post here and why you hate them. *Ducks and covers from incoming flames*

I hate FPS because
1.) it's old and well-worn out genre. Sure, you can say the same for fighters and puzzlers and other games, but I think they've done everything they can do with this tired genre.

2.) It's too popular. Every sum-a-bitch from casual gamers to wanna-be army brats play it, and that seems to be all they play *cough*Counterstrike, Halo*cough*

3.) Controls are messed up. MadCatz trackball/flight stick combo for DC was perfect for these games. I just don't like using a keyboard/mouse. Regular controllers are even worse.

4.) I suck at FPS.
I hate Sports because
1.) I'm not a huge enough sports nerd.

2.) It's a non-gamers genre.

3.) If you wanna play sports, join a team.

4.) Re-selling games gets you a nickel.

[Cauterize]

2 Words to Convert You to FPS:

Metroid Prime

3 Words to Convert You to Sports Games:

Pro Evolution Soccer

[Sibs]

Yeah, I hate alot of FPS and sports games too, but there are some good ones. Metroid Prime is just awesome and it isn't like all of the other FPS games, you should check that one out if you haven't yet. And as for sports, I enjoy them, but am not a huge die hard fan, so I enjoy simulation sports games like NBA Street and NFL Street that are less realism and more video game.

[soniko_karuto]

i don't like console fps games.

[Half Japanese]

Well I hate RPGs, but I don't feel the need to stir up stuff for the sake of it. If you dig around older posts, you'll find plenty of dead horses waiting to be beaten about the same subjects (FPS/Sports games).

[NE146]

FPS's are -_- to me.

Half the time my problem with them is when I die, I just fall down and kaput! Due to the 3Dishness nature of it, so many times when I get killed I have ZERO idea how it happened.

I mean of course I know someone shot me from behind, or I got sniped, or whatever.. but there really is no satisfaction of SEEING what happened to you unless you happen to be facing it. At least in most games you see why you died. In an FPS, it's not unusual to be walking somewhere and kaput, you're dead. Time to "respawn" with no clue what happened :P The last thing I saw was some corner of a room or some wall. LOL

[neoroking]

I hate sports because its so overrated. Lets play footlball in the street, lets beat each other up for the ball or lets add another team to the game: This is really why I hate sports. They use those three things I mentioned and thats all the really add. (aside for the plays and cheats)

[max 330 mega]

FPS: they havnt been good since Doom 2....probably the most worn out genre ever.

i hate sports games, because if you want to play basketball, or football, GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY IT DAMMIT! i cant go outside, and beat the shit out of people in a fighting tournament, or pilot a plane and fight giant mother ships that spurt 100 bullet barrages at me in real life, but dammit if i wanna throw a stupid basketball at a hoop , i walk outside and do it!

[NE146]

Why do lots of pro football players (and most any other avg. football player) like to play Madden then? :P

[Mr.FoodMonster]

I like FPS (mostly PC)

But, sports on the other hand. Bleck. Sure, there are a few 'arcade-y' type games that are cool, but most of them are just plain crap. Yeah, lets pay $50 every year over and over for slightly better graphics, more up to date rosters, and some minor 'change in gameplay'!


No. Thanks.

[Jasoco]

I love most FPS games and some Sports titles. Only the wacky ones though. Outlaw Golf, Mario Tennis, etc.

[SoulBlazer]

I love FPS, Adventures, Sims, RPG's, and Sports.

I hate fighting and shooting games.

Your point is? x_x

[Steven]

Not much to contribute except:

1. I like many FPS and sports games.

2. Wassup GregN.! Didn't know ya posted here, too! 8-)

[Gapporin]

Heh. Anybody else notice the irony between this topic and his signature? :P

(Just playing with you.)

[Habeeb Hamusta]

Yea FPS games are worn out and very -_- . Metroid Prime was cool but got very repetative and boring. Only ones I like are goldeneye and duke nukem 64.

[max 330 mega]

Why do lots of pro football players (and most any other avg. football player) like to play Madden then? :P
because there brains are now a ball of mush from having the shit beat out of them on the field :D

[SoulBlazer]

Hey, not my Pats. ;) They have the highest ammount of players who graduated from college then any other NFL team. :D

Now, if you want to debate on what they probaly majored IN...... :P

[bargora]

I suppose that I'm a bit fatigued about all of the FPS games myself. The thing is, when you first play a FPS as a wee lad, you're like OMFG TIHS IS TEH COOL3ST~!!11@1!. You then exist in this demented state for anywhere from 3 to 10 years. By the time you realize that you've already played the same game from the same tired genre over and over again, there are several younger gamers to replace you. And they are saying OMFG TIHS IS TEH COOL3ST~!!11@1! This is why the same damn game from the same tired genre will be produced by game companies over and over and over and over. Because for game companies MAKING MONEY IS TEH COOL3ST.

Well, color me obvious.

Oh, and sports games? I'd say that those are just for morons, but somebody would probably point out that I'm wrong about that. :P

[Griking]

Why do lots of pro football players (and most any other avg. football player) like to play Madden then? :P

To see their own faces and buddies on the screen

I like some FPS games but can only play them on PCs with real a keyboard and mouse. As for sports, I'll pick up the latest and greatest every three years or so when they're a few years old. Baseball is my favorite to play on a console.

[jdc]

I like a good FPS. I don't care for the rush of Vietnam games that we've seen lately, and I was SO disappointed by Halo 2 that they can stuff any thoughts that they may have of releasing a 3rd Halo back onto the shelf. I sure as hell won't waste my money on it.

Sports games. I normally don't buy mainstream ones. I DO buy tennis, golf, volleyball. However, I recently bought a bundle of DC games and it included all of the basketball, football and baseball games that the DC saw. I fired each one up just to check the discs....and came to the realization that, yes, I will in fact spend time learning to play these great looking games. Not a sports fan.....but soon might be.

[boatofcar]

FPS's have always made me sick. Goldeneye 4 player I played a lot of though, I fought off the nausea just because it was so much fun :)

I'm kinda on the fence in terms of sports games. I appreciate the depth you're allowed on current sports games, with training camp and dynasty mode, but I just can't see myself putting that much effort into it.

I love arcade-y sports games, like Blitz and Mario Golf, Tennis, and soon to be Baseball :D


Oh yeah, and Tecmo Super Bowl, Little League Baseball, and Bad News Baseball-best 3 sports games of all time 8-) I'm hoping Mario Baseball is somewhat reminiscent of Bad News Baseball.

[Kroogah]

Yeah, I hate sports games. Especially League Bowling. That shit is the WORST.

[Crush Crawfish]

I really hate FPS games. I've tried many, many times to like them but I just don't like them. Not even metroid prime could change my mind.

Sports games too, though I do like mario golf & tennis, and Tiny toons acme all-stars on genesis.

[XxMe2NiKxX]

I just decided I need to correct this, it's very important....

METROID PRIME IS NOT AN FPS!

[max 330 mega]

I just decided I need to correct this, it's very important....

METROID PRIME IS NOT AN FPS!
looks like an FPS to me..... :roll:

[XxMe2NiKxX]

Well, it's not. I ask you -- have you ever played it?

[Ninja Blacksox]

I just decided I need to correct this, it's very important....

METROID PRIME IS NOT AN FPS!

Huh.

It's in a first-person view...

...and you shoot stuff.

And it's the only FPS that I really like.

As for sports, "Baseball Stars" is in my top five video games of all time list. Granted, it's probably the only sports game in the top fifty...

-A Boy

[Jasoco]

What is so hard to understand? Metroid Prime IS AN FPS! First Person! CHECK! Shooting! CHECK! It IS a freaking FPS! Why do people even argue that it isn't? They must be blind! And since they're blind, they can't be playing the games! So their arguments are null and void.

Metroid Prime = First Person Shooter

Halo = First Person Shooter

Killzone = First Person Shooter

Serious Sam = First Person Shooter

DOOM = First Person Shooter

Wolfenstein 3D = First Person Shooter

All of these have two things in common. Can you guess what they are?

[NE146]

Well... the gameplay is pretty different in that with it's autolock, it's not so much AIMING and shooting (which is pretty much most FPS's focus). But more exploring and powering yourself up.. which of course, allows you to explore more.

But then again, I guess you could call both 2D Contra and 2D Metroid "platformers"... so... :hmm: *shrug*

[Melf]

Beefyhits spammed up another forum with this thread? Sheesh.

[YoshiM]

I just decided I need to correct this, it's very important....

METROID PRIME IS NOT AN FPS!

I kinda lump games into what they do the most. To me Metroid Prime is primarily an FPS combined with adventure/puzzle elements not unlike System Shock 1 and 2 or maybe Deus Ex or Timesplitters 2. Even these games had puzzles and exploration most of your interaction was whacking/blasting creatures/people.

What I don't get is why people get in a tizzy about Metroid Prime's genre classification. If I call it an FPS, does that make it any less of a game? No, it doesn't. It's like I'm insulting someone. The term "First Person Adventure" was essentially coined, from my POV, in an attempt to separate the game from similar titles to make it "stand out". In short: marketing buzzword. So far Nintendo's the only one (that I'm aware of) that used that name, even though many FPS games have been evolving to include more and more adventure/exploration/puzzle elements as opposed to the constant blast-a-thon/deathmatching of old.

When a game includes 1)a first person perspective, 2)a primary weapon at the ready at all times (hell, Samus has a LIMB that's a weapon), 3)items acquired are primarily used to blast the bejeezus out of opponents and 4) (in regards to Echoes) has a multiplayer DEATHMATCH mode.....Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks pretty much like a duck.

[The Manimal]

Well... the gameplay is pretty different in that with it's autolock, it's not so much AIMING and shooting (which is pretty much most FPS's focus).


Then DOOM and Wolfenstein are not FPSs because you do not have to aim really....just make sure the target is the the same spot VERTICALLY. It automatically targets, whether the baddie is at the bottom of the screen or on a tower way above..


If you don't consider those two games FPSs, then there is no FPS genre...

[NE146]

Well... the gameplay is pretty different in that with it's autolock, it's not so much AIMING and shooting (which is pretty much most FPS's focus).


Then DOOM and Wolfenstein are not FPSs because you do not have to aim really....just make sure the target is the the same spot VERTICALLY. It automatically targets, whether the baddie is at the bottom of the screen or on a tower way above..


(which is pretty much most FPS's focus)

I don't disagree with you at all. :) But let's face it, when was the last time you saw an FPS like Doom where all you do is point in the general horizontal direction of a target and you'll hit them. ...It's been a pretty long time ;) They have pretty much all evolved where the point is to move your mouse cursor precisely over a target and that's where your shot goes.. like a head shot. And with my sloppy mouse control, that's why I suck at them LOL

I don't think my point was to say Metroid and Doom weren't NOT an FPS.. but rather, it's pretty blurred even though they have different gameplay focuses. i.e. the comment about 2d metroid and 2d Contra both being "platformers".

[slip81]

I don't mind FPS's, but I don't like playiung them on consoles because I can't get used to the controls. I play sports games, but usually only against another human opponent.

And Prime is a first person shooter, game play is centered around shooting, and it's done in a first person perspective. Just because the gameplay calls for a lot of exploration and strategy doesn't change the technical style of a game. The origianl Half Life had a big emphasis on story, exploration and puzzles, and I don't here anyone saying that that isn't a FPS.

[bargora]

I agree with NE146. It seems that the essence of "teh FPS genre" is to demonstrate one's huge ePenis and mad skillz by aligning "the gun" in one or more dimensions with an array of targets. And then shooting shooting shooting them.

This auto-lock feature violates the spirit of FPS. I mean, a little auto-aim to compensate for yer POS controller is one thing. But this business of the game completely lining up your shot for you? I mean, you might as well have a Spyro game where you have little dragon associates who go and find you all the geegaws and stuff. While Spyro sits back and sips a brew.

And Jasoco, your semantic arguments do not impress me. I mean, are you going to tell me that Colony Wars/Wing Commander/X-Wing are FPS?

Let me just conclude that NE146 is very smart and you should all listen to him.

[Captain Wrong]

Well I hate RPGs, but I don't feel the need to stir up stuff for the sake of it. If you dig around older posts, you'll find plenty of dead horses waiting to be beaten about the same subjects (FPS/Sports games).

Perfect answer.

Fer christ's sake, play what the fuck you like and don't play something if you don't like it. I know it's less fun than getting one's knickers in a twist about Metroid Prime being/not being a FPS or what have you... :roll:

[bargora]

Well I hate RPGs, but I don't feel the need to stir up stuff for the sake of it. If you dig around older posts, you'll find plenty of dead horses waiting to be beaten about the same subjects (FPS/Sports games).

Perfect answer.

Fer christ's sake, play what the fuck you like and don't play something if you don't like it. I know it's less fun than getting one's knickers in a twist about Metroid Prime being/not being a FPS or what have you... :roll:
Captain, some of us are stuck at skool rite now, and so can't fire up anything more powerful than Gradius Galaxies. Sometimes it takes a combination of GBA therapy and trollmeattossin' just to keep the shakes down.

And I repeat: Metroid Prime is totally an FPS! Anyone who says it's not is a pudwhacker!

[whoisKeel]

i like fps for pc...especially online (unreal tourn, quake3). to me fps is a genre that requires as much skill and practice as genres like fighters and shmups. you can play for years and years and still get better, and that's part of the appeal. i'm putting online fps in a sorta different category here but, when you get a group of people together with similar aiming skills, the one that uses strategy and good use of the environment is going to win, you have to outsmart your opponent.

sure, the genre's a bit tired, but that doesn't mean there aren't great fps games still being made.

and as for sports games, sure they are a bit recycled, but there's more street fighter games than there are madden footballs, and we're not complaining about that (or at least i'm not :)) how many megaman games are there? and there's at least 12 castlevania games (and about 14 maddens from '92-2005), over 10 king of fighters games.

anyways, i guess my point is that there are LOTS of tired genres, recycled games, and long running series...don't just point the fingers at fps and sports games.

and how is 2D metroid not a platformer, btw?

[briskbc]

I love a good FPS. Doom is what got me back into gaming. There are things about the genre I don't enjoy like not being able to save wherever you want and, failing that, check points that are too far apart.

As for sport games. I like EA hockey and Hot Shots Golf games. That's about it.

[Lord_Magus]

I don't really consider sports games to be true video-games, in the same way that I don't consider people who only play sports games gamers. When I turn on my console to play a game, I do it mostly to experience something different, not just to re-play something I can actually do in real life (getting more satisfaction out of it as well!)...

Seriously, how much more can be added to a game such as football? It hasn't changed much since it was invented, and all the video games based on it differ only in areas such as graphics and sound - the core gameplay and objectives are always the same. Its like seeing 15-20 different versions of Pong coming out each year, with small installments such as nicer looking cheer leaders and fancier scoreboards. :/

Why don't developers put more creativity and imagination into their games? Maybe then we could see more games such as Metroid Prime :)

And to set things straight: it is not a FPS. Sure, it uses the first person perspective through which you can shoot your enemies, but it uses a different approach than the average FPS such as Doom III, or even more refined examples of the genre such as Deus Ex. MP transends beyond the usual "corridor shooter" FPS style, and delivers an experience that is more easily described as an adventure, rather than an action game. I could start listing the differeneces between MP and other FPSs, but that would only lead to the listing of their superficial similariites in other posts. :P

Yes, it looks like a FPS, but it doesn't play or feel like one. When I first played the game, I was concerned that it wouldn't live up to my expectations. After playing it for a while, I reached an important conclusion, which ended up being my categorization\definition of the game as well:
It's Metroid in 3D. ;)

[Captain Wrong]

Captain, some of us are stuck at skool rite now, and so can't fire up anything more powerful than Gradius Galaxies.

What else go you need?

LOL

[GarrettCRW]

Seriously, how much more can be added to a game such as football? It hasn't changed much since it was invented

Two words: forward pass.

Anyways, it seems like most people in this thread hate sports games for the revisions (something EA invented) or the simple fact that they just don't like the major pro sports at all. While I certainly don't agree with either viewpoint, there's nothing quite as annoying hearing people bash one genre simply because it's teh l33t with the regular folks. A good game is a good game, just like a good cartoon is a good cartoon. Trying to separate genres in order to make one look better than the other is seriously counterproductive.

[kai123]

How can a sports game not be a real game? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't a good game to fans of the series. Do you know why people play sports games? They play them because they get to take their favorite teams to the championships. Also how many of you can go dunk a basketball? Or afford season tickets every year? Not many I'm sure. It is just another form of fantasy that all games create for people. Not everyone wants to save the princess or become a tree elf to save the forest from the evil orcs. :roll:

[Lady Jaye]

I agree with Kai...

Lookit this way, I lost my Montreal Expos forever (I've said enough on the subject so I won't dwell on that right now).

However, I can keep that team alive forever whenever I play Homerun King, All-Star Baseball 2002 or MVP Baseball 2004. I can even make up my own all-time All-Star Expos team in Baseball Stars!