I'm playing San Andreas in RGB. Are you?

[Anthony1]

Actually, I must admit that I'm not "yet" playing San Andreas in RGB. I have the game right here sitting on my desk, but I haven't recieved my new PS2 yet. It is being shipped and should be here by Friday, I hope.


But the cool thing is, that the minute that I get it, I'm going to hook it up to my 25 inch Sony RGB monitor, and I'm going to go to F'ing town with San Andreas in RGB.

It is going to be freaking sweet!!!!!


Any game on the PS2 that doesn't have a 480p mode, looks much, much, much better in RGB. If the signal is going to be interlaced, then you might as well see it in RGB.

I remember when Vice City first came out for the PS2. My buddy got it, and he took his PS2 to my house and hooked it up in RGB. He was totally blown away by how much extra detail and color and crispness was on the screen.

Anyways, I just think alot of people forget about the fact that both the PS2 and GameCube, for all the non 480p games, the best picture you can possibly get is analog RGB. I think there is only about a dozen PS2 games that are 480p, so 99 percent of the library would look best on a analog RGB monitor. With the GameCube, I would say about 30 percent of the games are 480p, maybe even less, so to play stuff like the first Resident Evil, in the best possible video you can get, is on a RGB monitor.

I know that I'm always pimping RGB, but usually I'm pimping it in relation to the Sega Saturn or the SNES or the TG-16 or the Jaguar or stuff like that. But I must let folks know that the PS2 and the Cube in RGB are also awesome. With the XBOX, no need for RGB, might as well go 480p with all the games. I know that there is like 5 or 6 games that don't have 480p, we'll for those games, just don't play them.

[Kroogah]

Freaking sweet!!!!!

You forgot to mention playing roms on your Xbox.

[Anthony1]

Freaking sweet!!!!!

You forgot to mention playing roms on your Xbox.


Huh? What do you mean, "playing roms on your XBOX"? You mean playing them in RGB? Actually Roms on the XBOX are awesome on a HDTV in 720p mode or 1080i mode, with XBOX Tri - Linear Filtering and SuperScale2x mode activated. At least the NES and Genny are. The SNES looks great in 720p and 1080i too.

[youruglyclone]

if it's any consolation I'm playing san andreas on an lcd projector?

but still very jealous

[Perkar]

Freaking sweet!!!!!

You forgot to mention playing roms on your Xbox.

this is easily the best thing i have read all day.

/me <3's yash

[NE146]

I'm playing San Andreas in RGB. Are you?

Actually no.. I'm playing it on a cheapo RF converter on this very tv set.

..the same set I play all Xbox, PS2, and GC on. 8-)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/b2stoys/redblue.jpg

[Brian_Provinciano]

Looks like it's that time of the month again for Anthony1... RGB rant time, hahaha.

It's all good, I really should get RGB'd myself. As much as I love San Andreas, many of the blips are hard as HELL to see on a normal, non-HDTV/non-RGB. They definitely made it for top notch TVs.

[Anthony1]

Looks like it's that time of the month again for Anthony1... RGB rant time, hahaha.

It's all good, I really should get RGB'd myself. As much as I love San Andreas, many of the blips are hard as HELL to see on a normal, non-HDTV/non-RGB. They definitely made it for top notch TVs.


Actually, it's quite possible that a HDTV would make a game like San Andreas look like crap.


But I'm sure it will shine in RGB.

Games that are normally kinda ugly on the PS2, will look almost like totally different games in RGB.

[Dahne]

Actually Roms on the XBOX are awesome on a HDTV in 720p mode or 1080i mode, with XBOX Tri - Linear Filtering and SuperScale2x mode activated. At least the NES and Genny are. The SNES looks great in 720p and 1080i too.

........

It make pictures pretty?

[Sylentwulf]

On the other hand, I'll be playing it on a 47" widescreen instead of a 25" tube, so I'll actually be able to SEE the characters on the screen! I'll also see the game as it was MEANT to be played. I'll also be writing this post in every RGB post from this day forward. Get. Over. It.

[Nez]

To sum it up in one word: No

In six words: I'm waiting for the Xbox Release.

[EnemyZero]

wow NE, thats an ancient set :P but if it works then thats just fine lol

[scooterb23]

I've got this killer portable TV I play on...it has about a 5 inch screen and is in Black & White...makes San Andreas look like one of those old time gangster movies...

[Djfinny]

Hi all. Sorry for my ignorance on this topic - but assuming you need a TV with RGB inputs - how common is this type of conenction on a TV? My old C64 13 inch monitor had RGB (3 connector) inputs (and BTW the games looked incredible, esp the colors) If needed - do they still sell TV's with RGB connectors? Another question - would RGB make "older" console (2600, Intellivsion etc) graphics stand out more? Thanks for wisdom all :)

DJ

[Mad Chemist]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/b2stoys/redblue.jpg

Wizard of Wor? *ATARI 2600* version??? What kind of crack are you on? ;)

[Mad Chemist]

Actually, it's quite possible that a HDTV would make a game like San Andreas look like crap.

But I'm sure it will shine in RGB.

What, exactly, do you mean by "in RGB"?

[mr_jiggles_13]

now where can i get one of theese cables? my dvd player has RGB as well as svideo and the regular outputs too, i currently dont have anything hooked up to it, any help would be appreciated

[Mad Chemist]

My old C64 13 inch monitor had RGB (3 connector) inputs (and BTW the games looked incredible, esp the colors)

it's been a while since I saw my C=64 monitor, but weren't those three conectors chrominance, luminance, and audio? (In other words, S-video plus mono audio)?

Edited to fix quote. Oops.

[FantasiaWHT]

Help a neophyte out...

Can someone explain the difference between all these things? Does RGB = Component video cables? I swear I remember playing old computer games and having to select RGB monitor for something...

=/

[grayrobertos]

I have no idea what any of the RGB stuff means. Can some body post some pics of the differences between RGB and composite. I don't think any of our TVs here in the UK come with the RGB connectors. Can somebody with a bit of knowledge explain all this to me please.

[Tetsu]

My old C64 13 inch monitor had RGB (3 connector) inputs (and BTW the games looked incredible, esp the colors)

it's been a while since I saw my C=64 monitor, but weren't those three conectors chrominance, luminance, and audio? (In other words, S-video plus mono audio)?

Edited to fix quote. Oops.


there were many different commodore monitors, the 1084, 1084S, etc, with differnt imput modes, including digital rgb, analog rgb, svideo, and composite. for a crash course on all this crap and why you should care as a video game player, go to www.gamesx.com

[Raven1280]

No I'm not but im playing Vice City on a 36" Sony VEGA widescreen hdtv thourgh a great Component cable bought form the Electirc Quarter

[davidleeroth]

Still safe to post in this thread?


I have no idea what any of the RGB stuff means. Can some body post some pics of the differences between RGB and composite. I don't think any of our TVs here in the UK come with the RGB connectors. Can somebody with a bit of knowledge explain all this to me please.

http://www.students.tut.fi/~tiainen2/rgb.html

*sneaks out*

[junglehunter]

Do you really need a god damn thread for every game/system in RGB/Projector Screen/other useless output?

I didn't think so... :/

[FantasiaWHT]

for a crash course on all this crap and why you should care as a video game player, go to www.gamesx.com

Their links to "primers" on the subject don't work...

my question still stands hehe

[TRM]

Still safe to post in this thread?


I have no idea what any of the RGB stuff means. Can some body post some pics of the differences between RGB and composite. I don't think any of our TVs here in the UK come with the RGB connectors. Can somebody with a bit of knowledge explain all this to me please.

http://www.students.tut.fi/~tiainen2/rgb.html

*sneaks out*

Maybe those screenshot comparisons are just uber crappy but it really doesnt look THAT much better to me.

[Berserker]

it really doesnt look THAT much better to me.

Such is the nature of all things "hi-fi".

[gwaine]

I'm playing all my systems in RGB and it really does make things look a lot better. It's like hooking up your consoles to an arcade-quality screen...everything is much sharper. You don't realize how bad things look until you play them using composite and then switch over to RGB. Small text is very defined as are all the edges of graphics, etc. It's well worth the investment if you're a serious gamer. I bought a RGB-capable Sony PVM 2530. Even most computer monitors that have RGB inputs can't be used to display consoles because the hertz of the monitor can't go low enough. So I bought the monitor and the cables (a guy on these boards makes them) and plugged everything in and I wasn't that amazed. I wrote as much on these boards. Then I went back and plugged in through the regular composite cable (yellow of the yellow, white, red cables) to the same monitor and ugh! You don't realize how bad things look until you get the sharpness of RGB, and then there's no going back. The difference isn't subtle at all...it's very noticeable. Well worth it in my opinion. Try it with Ghouls 'n Ghosts on the Genesis. Awesome stuff. I'll have to say those screenshots above don't do it justice...I'll see if I can get pictures tonight.

[Mad Chemist]

there were many different commodore monitors, the 1084, 1084S, etc, with differnt imput modes, including digital rgb, analog rgb, svideo, and composite.

The 108x monitors were Amiga monitors. The poster I was responding to was talking about hooking up a C=64.

[Djfinny]

The poster I was responding to was talking about hooking up a C=64.


I'm trying to remember the connectors to the C64 monitor now. It's tough only becuase I don't have it anymore (it died just after college) we used it to hook up a VCR and watch movies on it (excellent picture BTW) I can say for sure that it was the "offical" Commodore 64 monitor as advertised. (got it for xmas after asking mom for a "REAL" c64 monitor. I'll need to research it a bit get the model #. I did think it was a 3 input. Maybe it was single video RCA and 2 sound (stereo) connectors?

[Mad Chemist]

I did think it was a 3 input. Maybe it was single video RCA and 2 sound (stereo) connectors?

3 RCA jacks: Chrominance, Lumnance, and (mono) audio. I still have a couple of C=64s. :)

I also use an Amiga 1080 monitor hooked to a VCR in the spare room as a television. With all the moves I've made since I bought my first Amiga, I'm amazed it still works as well as it does.

[The Manimal]

Looks like it's that time of the month again for Anthony1... RGB rant time, hahaha.

It's all good, I really should get RGB'd myself. As much as I love San Andreas, many of the blips are hard as HELL to see on a normal, non-HDTV/non-RGB. They definitely made it for top notch TVs.

LOL but true. Having each system modded to best possible output would be nice though.

[izret101]

No.

[Mad Chemist]

Maybe those screenshot comparisons are just uber crappy but it really doesnt look THAT much better to me.

According to the title of that page, they're also comparing COMPOSITE video with RGB. Any comparisons between S-Video and RGB? (I'm guessing there would be a lot less noticable difference, with somewhat poorer color performance). All modern consoles (and some classic consoles and computers) can pump out S-Video, and all but the cheapest modern TVs have the connectors for it.

[whoisKeel]

I vote for new forum section, Anthony1's rgb/hdtv section. Just below the technical/restoration society.

[mezrabad]

Okay, let me give a little background.

In April I spent the most money on anything I've ever spent money on that wasn't a musical instrument. I bought a very nice Sony WEGA FD Trinitron XBR 34" Widescreen HDTV and I was happy. I'm still happy with it, honest, I just want to cry whenever I hear that it isn't the best goddamned way to play every freakin' games system known to man.

I was skeptical about its failings, until I hooked up my Playstaion and tried to play Final Fantasy IX, one of the pretty games. My eyes just started bleeding and they wouldn't stop for a WHOLE WEEK. The hugeness of the screen? I dunno, whatever happened to the frickin' graphics was just disturbing. Yes, the Xbox is a wet dream on it and so is the Gamecube, and so are a lot of games on the PS2, but the Playstation's prettiest game looked like crap.

So NOW, Thanks to Anthony1 and his constant state of AROUSAL for RGB, I HAVE TO HAVE A SONY PVM 2530. I know it's only going to set me back about a tenth of what the HDTV cost, but I'm going to have to explain to my wife why I just have to have it, and why it has to be in the living room next to the other one.

So, Anthony1, I need to know if all the great RGB capable Systems have to be modified to put out RGB or if they merely need a modified Cable. Does your contact Matthew still do this stuff? Since I won't be able to lift a 116 lbs Monitor for a few months (minor surgery) I'd better start getting ready for it. If there is a previous thread with this actual information, I'm sorry I'm not doing well finding it. You've won, I'm beaten and I'm filled with RGB lust.

[Anthony1]

On the other hand, I'll be playing it on a 47" widescreen instead of a 25" tube, so I'll actually be able to SEE the characters on the screen! I'll also see the game as it was MEANT to be played. I'll also be writing this post in every RGB post from this day forward. Get. Over. It.


Only problem with this logic is that the vast majority of PS2 games aren't "true" 16:9, so a widescreen actually distorts the picture in a way.


Look, I'm the expert to the 10th degree on display devices. I will be playing San Andreas on a 113 inch 16:9 movie screen, on a 51 inch 16:9 Sony, on a 32 inch crystal clear 16:9 Princeton Graphics HDTV monitor, as well as two different freaking RGB monitors!


But the best picture that I'm ever going to see of San Andreas is going to be on either of the RGB monitors.

Now, for a game in 480p, like Jak 3, the best display will likely be the 113 inch movie screen.

[Anthony1]

Do you really need a god damn thread for every game/system in RGB/Projector Screen/other useless output?

I didn't think so... :/


Look, I know that I do way too many posts on RGB, but you know what? It's all about Love, baby. I mean, I really have a freaking passion for RGB. And the thing about it is that it is such a weird secret, people just don't know about RGB, and I hope I can influence a few gamers here to do their systems in RGB and be totally amazed by the results.


Ok, I ask this question.... Anybody here read one of my RGB posts, and then get the cables and the monitor and hook it up, and say "Damn, all those posts that Anthony1 did on RGB, man, he wasn't just blowing smoke, this is incredible."

Come on.... I know I have to have influenced at least one person.

I love RGB, and I"m sorry, but I'm getting a PS2 for the frst time since August 2001, and I'm excited to play San Andreas and Snake Eater and Jak 3 and stuff like that in RGB on it.

Actually Jak 3 I would play on my HDTV's in 480p, but all the non 480p games, definitely RGB all the way.

[Castelak]

No.


(You know someone was going to say it. ;) )

[Anthony1]

Ok, there have been tons of questions asked, and I would like to answer all of them by saying a few things.


1. If you are a gamer that appreciates the improvement in picture quality of S-Video over RF or even composite, then you most likely would be amazed by RGB. If you are a gamer that really doesn't notice much from RF to S-Video or Composite to S-Video, then maybe you will only be mildly impressed by RGB. That's pretty much the bottom line, You fall into either one or the other categories. If you fall into the S-Video category, then you will be blown away by RGB. No question about it. If you are in the Joe Sixpack, I don't really notice anything, my old 1980's TV is fine category, then you might be less impressed by it, but even those people notice a difference after a little bit.


2. If you have any of these systems, then you absolutely have to get RGB cables for them: Genesis, Super Nintendo, Sega CD, Sega 32X, Atari Jaguar, Sega Saturn, Neo Geo, Neo Geo CD, PS1, PS2

3. If you are a fan of the TG-16 or the PC Engine, then you absolutely must get a RGB monitor, and send your TG-16 to Matthew to be RGB modded. And it's even more incredible for TG-16 CD owners and Turbo Duo owners. Once you see Bonk's Adventure in RGB, you will be totally freaking amazed! You know the part when Bonk goes inside that big Dinosaur? Man, play that in RGB and hit the hippe lettuce. It will put you in a trance.

4. if you have a Nintendo 64, and you are a really, really big fan on the N64, then you should get it modded for RGB. If you are only kinda a fan of N64, then maybe don't. I would say of all the systems out there, the N64 was the least impressive in RGB. That machine just has too much damn fox, and the image just doesn't have alot of contrast to it. It's still the best picture you will ever see of the N64 (other than emulators), so if you are a huge N64 fan, you might as well see everything that you were missing.

5. Unfortunately, pre TG-16 systems don't do RGB.

6. If you have a Dreamcast, you can play it in RGB, but might as well play it in 480p with a VGA box.

7. If you have the XBOX, then you should play it on a HDTV.

8. If you have a GameCube, you might want to think about trying RGB for all the non progressive scan games, but the downside is that you have to spend quite a bit to do it.



Anyways, you need a RGB monitor, and you need Matthew's email. the_matthew@yahoo.ca


For RGB monitors, I highly recommend the Commodore 1084S if you can find one for about $50 or less.

It's very small, but a great low cost introduction to RGB. These monitors are great to take with you on trips, work great in hotels and stuff like that. Try camping with a RGB monitor!!! Just you, the stars, Super Ghouls and Ghosts on the SNES in RGB and a campfire!

Anyways, that's a good low cost option. If you can find one local, then that's the best route. I've seen them on Ebay. You should pay less than $50 with shipping and everything.

Then hit up Matthew. Start with your favorite system first. Like, TurboGrafx-16. or SNES. Or Jaguar or Sega 32x or Sega CD or Saturn or whatever. Pick your fav. system, get a cheapo RGB monitor, email matthew, have him hook you up with the cables, and then it's on like Donkey Kong.


Now, if you have more money to blow, and you want to take RGB to the limit, then you want to start spending some time on Ebay looking for a good Sony PVM 2530.

I would try to spend less than $200 with shipping. So be patient, and make sure the shipping won't totally kill you. Try to find one within driving distance. Make sure that it's a good monitor and that it doesn't have problems with it.

But if you get a good, solid, working Sony PVM 2530, then you will be in heaven once Matthew hooks you up with all the cables.

[TRM]

Just you, the stars, Super Ghouls and Ghosts on the SNES in RGB and a campfire!


That's funny. LOL

[davidleeroth]

Maybe those screenshot comparisons are just uber crappy but it really doesnt look THAT much better to me.

According to the title of that page, they're also comparing COMPOSITE video with RGB. Any comparisons between S-Video and RGB? (I'm guessing there would be a lot less noticable difference, with somewhat poorer color performance). All modern consoles (and some classic consoles and computers) can pump out S-Video, and all but the cheapest modern TVs have the connectors for it.

If the screen comparisons look a bit crap it's because taking a good photo of a TV screen is nearly impossible. When you change the signal, the brightness changes, alters the photoing? conditions and you're screwed. But until I get a RGB capture card, this the best I can do.

Sorry, no RF-Composite-S-Video-RGB comparisons as my only S-video capable monitor was made sometime B.C.. But when I get the capture card, I'll put up a better (I hope) page about the comparison.

[Mad Chemist]

For RGB monitors, I highly recommend the Commodore 1084S if you can find one for about $50 or less.

Why would a person who has a reasonably modern TV with component inputs (even the cheaper non-HD, non-widescreen televisions have them these days) want to buy a 1084 monitor for their PS2?

[Sniderman]

Me and 114 of my closest friends play Halo on an 85 foot wide screen every weekend.

http://tinypic.com/vg9j8

Truth. Swear to God.

[Maddrox]

Me and 114 of my closest friends play Halo on an 85 foot wide screen every weekend.

http://tinypic.com/vg9j8

Truth. Swear to God.


O_O @_@ :eek 2:

[gwaine]

Yeah, I tried taking pictures last night, both through the RGB cable and through composite, but it's so hard taking a picture of the screen...I couldn't really get a good shot. It's hard taking good pics of the screen! Everything is overexposed...I tried slowing down the shutter, but nothing worked too well. I just remember thinking how drastic a difference Ghouls 'n Ghosts was, right from the minute the SEGA logo that pops up before the title screen. No bleeding of colors, just sharp and precise graphics...everything looks so much better.

[Captain Wrong]

Me and 114 of my closest friends play Halo on an 85 foot wide screen every weekend.

http://tinypic.com/vg9j8

Truth. Swear to God.

It looks impressive and all, but front projection screens are so 1981.

[Mad Chemist]

It looks impressive and all, but front projection screens are so 1981.

And it's too darned small. Try one of these instead:

http://bastilleweb.techhouse.org/

(I wonder if you can hook an RGB cable to it ... :) )

[Sylentwulf]

Only problem with this logic is that the vast majority of PS2 games aren't "true" 16:9, so a widescreen actually distorts the picture in a way.
Correct, I don't see it as a problem though.



Look, I'm the expert to the 10th degree on display devices. I will be playing San Andreas on a 113 inch 16:9 movie screen, on a 51 inch 16:9 Sony, on a 32 inch crystal clear 16:9 Princeton Graphics HDTV monitor, as well as two different freaking RGB monitors!


You're fuckin special, now take it over to an A/V board that will give a damn, this is a videogame board, and NOT an audio video geek club. I know for a fact that wberdan has the best stereo setup on these boards, but he doesn't run around bragging and telling everyone to "get a better stereo, because OMFG this game roxorz on my setup!" every goddamn time he gets a new game does he?




But the best picture that I'm ever going to see of San Andreas is going to be on either of the RGB monitors.

Now, for a game in 480p, like Jak 3, the best display will likely be the 113 inch movie screen.

So, you'll be spending most of your GTA playtime on the 25" as opposed to you bigger TV's? Just because of a marginal 2% increase in visual appearance? That's just plain sad.

[Arcade Antics]

If by RGB you mean "Really Groovy Boxers," then, yes.

I play ALL my videogames in RGB.

[Sniderman]

I would like to play Microvision games in RGB. I think they would be greatly improved. Can you recommend how I could do this? What kind of modding would I have to do to the system? please help me out ?!?!?!?!? @_@ :eek 2: ;) :P :hmm: :embarrassed: :( LOL O_O -_- :evil: :roll: :/




:D

[Lady Jaye]

If by RGB you mean "Really Groovy Boxers," then, yes.

I play ALL my videogames in RGB.

Now I have this image of Dave playing his games in his boxers...

Tell me, Anthony, do you live or work in a Sony Style store or someplace like that?

[Mad Chemist]

If by warm chocolate puddin' you mean "Really Groovy Boxers," then, yes.

I play ALL my videogames in warm chocolate puddin'.

I nominate the quoted post for "Best post of the century".

[Mad Chemist]

I would like to play Microvision games

Don't worry! the stock Microvision supports BBB (Black, Black, Black), so no modding is required. I hear the BBB graphics are actually more sharp and clear than even the Dreamcast's VGA output - with absolutely NO color bleeding.

The only real problem is finding a Microvision that works in the first place.

[Achika]

I dunno.... if I had that much money, time and energy to just toss around how I please I'd be spending it on more videogames rather than wasting it all on 10,000 different displays to play them on.

[Promophile]

RGB Penis

[Dahne]

Huh? Where are you getting all this pudding?

SHARE, DAMMIT!

LOL

[TheRedEye]

I salute you, Digital Press, this is the best word filter in the history of the internet.

[SkiDragon]

Im sorry, I have to see this for myself.

RGB

[mr_jiggles_13]

RGB say what?

[slip81]

I'm playing San Andreas in French Chocolate Mousse.

[Sniderman]

http://tinypic.com/vgpbt

[ianoid]

I'm totally out of the loop on this one as well. It must be a great word filter because I feel like calling Bill Cosby myself and congratulating him on what he's done for us.

[Cranky Kong]

"But the cool thing is, that the minute that I get it, I'm going to hook it up to my 25 inch Sony RGB monitor, and I'm going to go to F'ing town with San Andreas in RGB ... Any game on the PS2 that doesn't have a 480p mode, looks much, much, much better in RGB ... I just think alot of people forget about the fact that both the PS2 and GameCube, for all the non 480p games, the best picture you can possibly get is analog RGB. I think there is only about a dozen PS2 games that are 480p, so 99 percent of the library would look best on a analog RGB monitor. With the GameCube, I would say about 30 percent of the games are 480p, maybe even less, so to play stuff like the first Resident Evil, in the best possible video you can get, is on a RGB monitor ... I know that I'm always pimping RGB, but usually I'm pimping it in relation to the Sega Saturn or the SNES or the TG-16 or the Jaguar or stuff like that. But I must let folks know that the PS2 and the Cube in RGB are also awesome. With the XBOX, no need for RGB, might as well go 480p with all the games. I know that there is like 5 or 6 games that don't have 480p, we'll for those games, just don't play them." - Anthony1, 12/7/04

"Huh? What do you mean, "playing roms on your XBOX"? You mean playing them in RGB? Actually Roms on the XBOX are awesome on a HDTV in 720p mode or 1080i mode, with XBOX Tri - Linear Filtering and SuperScale2x mode activated. At least the NES and Genny are. The SNES looks great in 720p and 1080i too." - Anthony1, 12/7/04

"Look, I'm the expert to the 10th degree on display devices. I will be playing San Andreas on a 113 inch 16:9 movie screen, on a 51 inch 16:9 Sony, on a 32 inch crystal clear 16:9 Princeton Graphics HDTV monitor, as well as two different freaking RGB monitors!" - Anthony1, 12/7/04

"Look, I know that I do way too many posts on RGB, but you know what? It's all about Love, baby. I mean, I really have a freaking passion for RGB. And the thing about it is that it is such a weird secret, people just don't know about RGB, and I hope I can influence a few gamers here to do their systems in RGB and be totally amazed by the results." - Anthony1, 12/7/04

"For some reason I never play the GameCube ... Part of the problem with me and the GameCube is that I have it hooked up to a TV that only takes a 480p signal, so I don't play any of the games that aren't progressive scan 480p. I think all of the Resident Evils were non 480p. Some other good games aren't 480p, and I haven't tried them. I should get a RGB cable for the Cube, but the problem is that it requires that you hack a Cube Component cable to make a RGB cable, and those component cables cost a serious grip." - Anthony1, 12/7/04

"I've been thinking about getting one of these devices (flash cart) for awhile now. One of the only reasons that I actually have a large collection of cartridges is because I want to see the games in RGB, and that isn't possible with Roms and Emulators. Say what you will about all the various video modes for emulators and stuff, but "true" rgb output is always superior in my opinion. " - Anthony1, 12/2/04

"Well, I've played my various systems on everything from a 13 inch RGB monitor to a 113 inch Home Cinema screen, so I think I'm the most qualified here to comment on this ... I also must say that if you have a modded XBOX, then playing old school games on a very large HDTV can be an amazing experience. Some of the Emulators on the XBOX allow you to play NES and Genny and SNES games in 720p or 1080i, with XBOX Tri Linear filtering turned on, and Super Scale 2X mode turned on as well. The resulting image is amazing." - Anthony1, 11/22/04

"And, of course, I can't stress enough how good a nice little RGB monitor can be. Any system that outputs a native RGB signal will always look it's best on a RGB monitor. I actually have 2 RGB monitors, one is 13 inches, and one is 25 inches. The 25 inch RGB monitor that I have is an absolute dream come true. It's made by Sony, and it was originally made for TV Production Studios. The fact that it's capable of analog RGB is just a side bonus. But playing a game like Bonk's Adventure in RGB on that 25 inch Sony is just an amazing experience. It really can't be beat." - Anthony1, 11/22/04

"When it comes to the NES, I really haven't seen a better picture, than the NES emulator on the XBOX, running on a HDTV in 1080i mode, with XBOX TriLinear filtering turned on, and running in SuperScale 2X mode. I'm telling you, you will never see a better picture of NES games than this. Had the NES featured RGB, then a better picture might be had on a RGB monitor with the proper cable, but the NES doesn't do RGB at all. I know it is considered blasphemy by most to play emulators rather than the real thing, and I typically agree with that, but you really have to see this NES emulator running in 1080i, via a modded XBOX on a HTDV that can properly display that 1080i signal. It's pretty freaking amazing. When it comes to the Genesis, this also has an amazing picture on a modded XBOX, in terms of the emulator. Very, very, very close to a RGB quality signal. Almost but not quite. But for the non videophile, they will be more than pleased with the image quality they get with the NeoGenesis emulator on a modded XBOX hooked up to a HDTV. The key with this though, is to actually get a HDTV that also can actually display 720P. Most HDTV's only do 1080i and 480p. Some of them will take a 720p signal, and down convert to 480p, which is not a good thing. If at all possible, you want a TV that can actually display both a native 1080i signal, as well as a native 720p signal. It might cost a few hundred more to get a HDTV that can "truly" display both 1080i and 720p, but believe me, in the long run you will be so glad that you did. The Genesis in 720p via a modded XBOX, is truly amazing. The SNES emulator in 720p is pretty damn good as well ... By the way, the Atari 2600 has a emulator on the XBOX that will also run in 1080i." - Anthony1, 11/11/2004

"If you can't bring yourself to play emulators on the XBOX in 1080i and 720p with the Tri Linear filtering turned on, and in Super Scale 2X mode, then you should actually bring the systems that you are going to use on it, to the store, and actually test them out on the set that you are going to buy. Make sure the set does 720p and 1080i and 480p. You can't go wrong with that. I'm telling you, if you ever get a XBOX, then you can play a game like Amped 2 in 720p, and your jaw will be dropping all over the floor. You also absolutely have to get the Component cable for the GameCube. Seeing games like Metroid Prime on the Cube in 480p, is pretty amazing. Awesome picture quality." - Anthony1, 11/11/2004

"Actually, what happens is that whatever you are watchng on your TV will have a particular signal. Like 1080i, 720p, 480p, 480i, etc,etc. Your TV then will just make a decision on how best to display that. Then main thing that I wanted to warn you about, is to make sure to get a HDTV that will "natively" display 720p. Almost every HDTV will dsiplay 1080i and 480p. But not that many will actually really display 720p. If you get one that really does display 720p, then you will be much better off for the future. XBOX Next and the PS3 and the next Nintendo system are all going to most likely display games at 720p. And there are a number of XBOX games right now that output 720p. You might have to pay $200 more than you were planning to, to get the 720p capability, but believe me. In the long run it will be worth it. Also, if you end up getting a Direct TV HDTV reciever, make sure to get one that has the option of outputting 720p instead of 1080i. I think the ones by Samsung do that. That way all the HDTV shows in 720p will look better on your HDTV than most HDTV's. Stuff like Monday Night Football, and Fox Sunday NFL Football." - Anthony1, 11/11/2004

"Oh my goodness!!!! That game in RGB is like a freaking religious experience. Totally amazing. In fact, I was going to title the topic, "Popful Mail in RGB is freaking incredible". But I figured I would be getting redundant about talking how every game is so beautiful in RGB. They all look damn good in RGB. But there really isn't any question about it, Popful Mail simply destroys everything when you see it in RGB and hear it through some good headphones or a good stereo system. Absolutely gorgeous." Anthony1, 10/21/04

"I have Gex on the 3DO, and I think it is definitely one of the best 3DO games, and it should be experienced on the 3DO, but I do think that both the playstation and saturn versions of Gex have 2 advantages. 1. Better Controller, 2. RGB video. The 3DO controller sucks and seeing GEX in RGB would be sweet. I'm just curious if one of these particular versions is much better than the other." - Anthony1, 10/24/04

"Alot of people are talking trash about the early Playstation 3D games. I think you guys are totally wrong on this one. I'm absolutely loving the early Playstation right now. Even stuff like the first Twisted Metal and Toshinden. But I must say that I'm playing my early PSX stuff on a RGB monitor, and it's really cool to see these games in RGB. But playing a game like Ridge Racer is just awesome. The first Wipeout is amazing. You guys just need a RGB monitor." - Anthony1, 9/21/04

"Cartridge based systems that output RGB. Roms on the computer just isn't as good as seeing the real game on a RGB monitor ... All of these systems output RGB, and I prefer RGB over any other video signal, at least other than 480p and HDTV type stuff. I'm still on Ebay buying games for those systems occasionally. If it was really easy to play the roms of those systems in "true" RGB, then I just might do that." - Anthony1, 10/13/2004

"I was just playing Batman Returns for the Sega CD last night on my Sony PVM-2530, and the picture was absolutely fantastic. The colors were just bursting off the screen. A great game to try in RGB on the Genesis is Jurassic Park. That game looks like crap on my TV, but in RGB it actually looks good. You see alot more details in the backgrounds. Sonic 3 is a really good game to try. For the Saturn try a game like Astal. The detail and color should just be ridiculous ... Something must be wrong with something, because you should be overwhelmed by the picture, it should be dramatically clearer than what you've seen before." - Anthony1, 10/11/04

"True analog RGB is superior to component (480i). The only thing that goes beyond analog RGB, is when you go to a progressive scan signal. A 480p signal is superior to analog RGB, but in the world of interlaced signals, analog RGB is the best you can get. If you have a Dreamcast, go with 480p when possible, if you have a XBOX go 480p or better, if you have a GameCube, you can go 480p for the progressive games and you can go RGB for the non progressive games. Same thing with PS2. RGB for all the non progressive games is best. Otherwise go with 480p." - Anthony1, 10/12/04

"That monitor that you have is one fine RGB monitor. And it's damn good with S-Video and Composite too. Not only will that be the best monitor for displaying all your RGB capable systems, but it will also be the best for displaying the NES, as well as the 3DO. Because the image from composite and S-Video is outstanding as well. Of course RGB is definitely the way to go, and I strongly urge you to send your TG-16 to Matthew to have him mod it for RGB. If you have a Atari Jaguar, you definitely want to get the cable for that. Also, you can use your PS1 cable with the PS2 if you have one. If you have a N64, you might want to send that along with the TG-16, and have him mod that for RGB too. If you have a Neo Geo of any type, you will also definitely want to get the RGB cable for that. Basically anything that outputs RGB, if you have that system, then get the cable for that too. For the 32X, you need a Genesis 2 rgb cable." - Anthony1, 10/13/2004

"Ah, interesting question. Yes emulation on the XBOX has brought up some interesting issues in comparison to RGB and various video signals from the older consoles. Now, if you have a HDTV that can natively display a 720P signal (which most of them don't), then the Genesis emulator with all the right settings turned on in the options, can come DAMN close to RGB quality. I'm talking DAMN CLOSE. But still, not quite as good. But for the non RGB enthusiast, then it would probably be close enough to be satisfied. In fact, if there was some way to use a "real" Genesis control pad on the XBOX, I might be willing to stop using my physical Genesis and 32X and Sega CD, and just roll with the emulator on my XBOX. The quality of the signal is that good. It's that close to RGB. But you need to go into the option menu and select 720p, you need to resize the screen. You need to turn on the XBOX trilinear filtering, and you need to turn on the Super Scale 2x rendering mode. If you do all of that, and you have a good HDTV that actually displays 720p, then it really is very, very close. If your TV will only "natively" display 1080i (which is what most of them do), then you want to set it to 1080i mode, with all the other settings that I descirbed. It's not quite as good as 720p, but it's damn close. Now in regards to SNES emulation on the XBOX hooked up to a HDTV, the results are good, but it isn't very close to RGB. Nowhere near as close as the Genesis emulation is anyways. On a side note, although the NES can't do RGB, so it's not a comparison to RGB, I find that the NES in 720p with all the right settings turned on, looks and sounds fantastic. So good in fact, that I got rid of all my NES stuff as a result. When you see Contra in 720p with Trilinear filtering on and SuperScale 2X mode, it really is the best NES picture that you can get." - Anthony1, 10/13/04

"In another thread, I talked about how I was amazed at finally enjoying the original Playstation in RGB. Alot of people in that thread said that they would like to enjoy RGB, but the monitors are too expensive or whatever, or it's too complicated, etc, etc. I just want to say that anybody that has any of these systems (systems listed) should seriously consider getting a RGB monitor. If you have alot of love for any of those systems, and you play the real system relatively often, then you really need to get a RGB monitor, and get some RGB cables for those systems ... Anyways, I think that some of you guys should really give RGB a try. It truly is amazing. Basically, the easiest way to explain it, is that for those of you who have seen the GameCube or the Dreamcast or the XBOX in 480p. Well, you know the difference between 480p on those systems, and them just hooked up to a regular TV, well the difference is pretty much the same when we are talking RGB and the non progressive scan systems. Basically anything prior to the Dreamcast and after the NES. For systems that aren't capable of 480p, RGB is the definite way to go. The clarity and crispness just can't be touched. The little details and all the glory of the artwork of the 2D games really comes out with RGB. Alot of these old games are works of art, and they should be seen on the best possible canvas. Now, as far as RGB monitors go, the best way to get into RGB on the cheap, to try it out, is to get yourself a Commodore 1084 monitor. I highly recommend the Commodore 1084-S. Sometimes you can find these on Ebay, and sometimes you can find them locally at a freaking thrift store. Just check around. Google it, whatever. The other option is the Sony PVM's. PVM is Profesional Video Monitor. These monitors that Sony made back in the early and mid 90's are actally monitors that are used in Broadcasting and production and TV Studios and stuff like that. They are also used in different Medical fields. These are professional monitors, and they must be very precise at displaying NTSC. Now when these things first were sold, they cost thousands of dollars. But you can now find them used for around a $100 or a couple of $100 depending on the model you are looking for. I highly suggest the Sony PVM-2530. The Sony PVM-2030 is another fine choice. The nice thing about both of these monitors, is that they also do S-Video about the best that it can be done. And regular old Composite. So even the NES and the 3DO can have fun on this monitor. But the key is the RGB display of these monitors. Absolutely freaking amazing. Basically we are talking about 25 inch and 20 inch TV's that will display an incredible RGB signal that will just blow you out of the water. I personally have a Sony PVM 2530, and it is just freaking amazing. When you see stuff like Bonk's Adventure (TG-16) or Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES), you will think you have died and gone to retro gamers heaven. The big downside with the PVM 2030 and PVM 2530 is how much they weigh. So you have to try to find one within relative driving distance otherwise you will pay a fortune on shipping. But like I said, if you just want to dip your toe in the waters of RGB Gaming then just get a Commodore 1084 monitor and a RGB cable for your favorite system. This guy Matthew is really good at making RGB cables for various systems, and he sells them for decent prices. So the cable isn't that big a deal, the key is getting the monitor. There are tons of other RGB monitors out there, besides the Commodore 1084's and Sony PVM's, just make sure that they do analog RGB at 15Khz." - Anthony1, 9/15/04

"Ok, so I happen to do alot of RGB threads. Big deal. If you don't like them, then just totally avoid them. It's just that every time I fire up one of my RGB monitors, and I experience something like the Sega Saturn or Atari Jaguar in glorious RGB, I just have to pinch myself. I love the shit. I just can't help it. Plus, here in the U.S.A, you wouldn't believe how many people don't know a damn thing about video games and RGB. So many people don't even have the slightest clue about it. But the reason why I'm always preaching about RGB, is because it's so affordable, and for anybody that really loves a particular system, you should really enjoy it the way it was intended to be enjoyed. Maybe one day I will have to go to one of these Retro Gaming conventions and I will bring all my RGB monitors and my cables, and just have a booth on RGB gaming. I can talk about it all day long till I'm blue in the face, but it's really something that needs to be seen to be understood." - Anthony1, 9/16/04

"Now, having said all of that, I will say that if you have a modded XBOX, and you have that hooked up to a HDTV that can natively display 720p, then some of the Emulators on there, can almost, with the key word being "almost" look as good as RGB. Notably the Neo Genesis emulator. That emulator actually comes very, very close, but not quite to viewing the Genesis in RGB. And if you are a huge NES fan, then playing the NES on a modded XBOX on a HDTV in 720p, if the HDTV can do 720p, is pretty freaking amazing as well. In fact, so freaking amazing that I got rid of all my physical NES systems and games. I just play that Emulator on the XBOX, when I need a NES fix. Or my GBA with Pocket NES." - Anthony1, 9/16/04

"Anyways, back on the subject at hand, when it comes to systems like the TurboGraphx-16 and Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo and Sega CD and Atari Jaguar and Sega 32X and Sega Saturn and Neo Geo and Neo Geo CD and Playstation and Nintendo 64, then nothing can touch a true RGB signal on a true RGB monitor. Period. I should know. I have 3 HDTV's in my house. Besides being a Video Game nut, I'm a huge home theater nut. But the bottom line is that for the TG-16 and the 16bit and 32bit systems, RGB is the way to go period. You won't get a better picture by any other method. Emulator included. In fact, I will never get rid of my physical TG-16 gear, or my Genesis gear, or my SNES gear, or Sega CD gear, Saturn, Jaguar, Playstation, 32X, etc, etc because RGB will always be the best way to display those games. True unaltered RGB will always be the best for those systems." - Anthony1, 9/16/04

"I just wanted to address this thought that some people have about RGB actually making games look worse. I'm sorry but I just don't agree on this. All RGB does is just reveal everything about the game. The Good the Bad and the Ugly. But still, I prefer to see the game in it's complete entirety, and jaggies don't bother me. Jaggies should be expected when you are talking about PS1 and Saturn 3D games. If I saw some Jaggies on a XBOX game then I would be pissed, but on games from the 32 bit era, please, that's just the way it was in that era. I want to experience the games for what they are, blemishes and all. But the bottom line is that non progressive scan games will look best in RGB, if it can do RGB. It's as simple as that. If you have a XBOX or a GameCube or a PS2, then you might as well play the games in progressive scan. (Although tons of PS2 games aren't in progressive scan, and do look best in RGB in those cases). If you have a Sega Dreamcast, then play it in progressive scan as well. But other than that, you should be playing in RGB if at all possible. It's going to be the best possible signal you are going to get from a non progressive source, period. Case closed. By the way, just the other day I was playing Assualt Rigs for the Playstation in RGB, and the game was just totally awesome. It's a early Playstion 3D game in RGB, and it is freaking sweet in RGB. So that theory simply goes out the window as far as I'm concened. And when it comes to Castlevania:S.O.T.N., you have to be out of your mind! That game is freaking drop dead gorgeous in RGB!" - Anthony1, 9/19/04

"I'm very passionate about RGB. I just think it's the cat's meow, and I wish everybody had a legitmate chance to experience it first hand before they made a judgement about it one way or the other. Now, when you say that the games weren't designed to be played in RGB, well you are correct to a point. Sure nobody expected there to be a large number of people actually experiencing the game in RGB, but developers did know that there are people out there that would experience it in RGB. For example, most of the major gaming magazines had RGB monitors in their offices, and the pictures that you actually saw in magazines are RGB screen grabs. Alot of the pics in magazines for ads are RGB screen grabs as well. Japan and Europe had a large number of people that would play it in RGB as well. And Developers would often play test the games on RGB monitors." - Anthony1, 9/22/04

"I actually used a RGB monitor back then. I got my first RGB monitor in like 1992/1993. I used it with Genesis, SNES and Sega CD. Initially. Then I remember using the 32X on it, and Atari Jaguar. Then Saturn. That was it. I had a TurboGrafx-16, but didn't know about RGB then. I didn't even find out until recently that the Turbo even did RGB!! With the Playstation, I desperately wanted one, but Redmond Cable never made one. I got rid of my PSX and N64 and switched to PC Gaming for a few years, so I gave up my search for a PSX RGB Cable. I also never knew that the N64 could do RGB. Didn't know that it could be internally modded. It really sucks too. Cause I would have loved to have actually seen Bonk's Adventure in RGB back when it actually was released. Or a game like Legendary Axe or Dungeon Explorer. Looking at those games now in RGB, it really is an amazing experience. To think that if I knew what I know now, back in 1989, I could have been playing my TG-16 in RGB back in 1989. That would have been so cool! And to think I never saw the original PSX in RGB during the time that I had a PSX. Man, it would have been totally amazing to have seen a game like Wipeout and Loaded and Doom in RGB back in late 1995. And with the N64, this is a system that, like the TG-16, I didn't even know it could do RGB. I actually had no idea until a couple of years ago that it could even do RGB. Pretty amazing. I will say however, that of all the systems that work in RGB, the Nintendo 64 is the worst in terms of RGB signal quality. For some reason the RGB signal with the N64 is just a little too dark. I don't know, the signal is just kinda off, when it comes to the N64. It's still amazingly clear, but it's not the crisp, vivid, normal RGB picture that you get with every other system. The N64 RGB needs to be amplified, and even after amplification, it's still slight dissapointing from RGB standards." - Anthony1, 9/22/04

"Well so far the only thing that I've gotten rid of is my NES stuff. And there were a number of reasons for that.
Probably the biggest reason was the fact that there is a perfect NES emulator that will run on the XBOX, and it's just so freaking convienent. Normally, I'm not a big fan of emulators, but this particular emulator will let you play NES games in 720P on a HDTV via the XBOX. Plus, I can choose from basically every NES game in existence, and it doesn't crash and there isn't a blinking light or blowing carts or anything like that. The sound is in stereo, and I know there is nothing like the real thing, but I can live fine with this NES emualtor. I was never really huge into the NES anyways. Plus the NES doesn't do RGB. If the NES outputted RGB, I would have never, ever gotten rid of it. I will never sell a system that displays analog RGB. No emulator can recreate analog RGB, so my TG-16, Genesis, Sega CD, SNES, Jaguar, 32X, Saturn, PSX and N64 are all safe from ever being sold." - Anthony1, 9/20/04

"There is likely to be a time when the 3DO can be emulated absolutely 100 percent perfectly, and at that point, I will get rid of my 3DO hardware. Why? Cause the 3DO doesn't do RGB. So that makes it expendable. Plus the real 3DO controllers suck anyways. But until this happens, I will always have my 3DO too. Oh by the way, I do own one system that doesn't do analog RGB. The Atari 2600. I have a Atari 2600 with a S-Video mod, and this is one system where you really, absolutely, must have the real freaking controllers. So I don't think I will ever get rid of this puppy, either." - Anthony1, 9/20/04

"I will always keep my real Jag, simply because it outputs RGB, and nothing can accurately simulate a RGB display, so I will always keep my real Jag. As for the 3DO, the best it can do is S-Video, and it's controllers are crap anyways, so if there was a perfect emulator for it, then I might just roll with the emulator and ditch my 3DO hardware." - Anthony1, 9/19/04

"Recently I've been playing alot of the old Playstation games in RGB. Especially the early titles from 95 and 96. Those were the good ole days, as far as I'm concerned, when it comes to the Playstation. But anyways, the reason that I bring this up, is because during the time that the Playstation was king, I actually didn't have a RGB cable for the Playstation. It's only recently that I've been able to enjoy all those games in RGB. Wow, what a freaking difference it makes! For example, I was just playing the original Crash Bandicoot. And you know those little butterflies that are flying around in the first couple of levels? Well, in RGB, they really, really look like freaking butterflies. On a regular TV, they look like two little colored triangles floating around. It's all the little things that you notice with RGB, that make all the difference in the world. Especially when you go back and play something that you haven't played in 10 years. If you re-visit it in RGB, it's like a whole new experience. Man, this just makes me more and more pissed at Redmond Cable. You see I had RGB cables for the Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, SNES, Jaguar and Saturn. I got them all from Redmond Cable. But when the Playstation came out, they never made RGB cables for the Playstation. At first they were going to do it, and they even were going to have Sony help them with it, so they would be official RGB cables for the Playstation, but then something happened, some legal red tape, some bullcrap, and they never ever made RGB cables for the Playstation. At the time, I didn't know of another way to get a Playstation RGB cable. So during the entire time that the Playstation was actually viable, I never experienced any of it in RGB. So it's a real treat, to go back now, and experience all the classis PSone games in RGB. Come to think of it, two other systems I had that can do RGB are the TG-16 and N64, but both of those systems, during the time that I originally owned them, I didn't know they could do RGB. So with those systems as well, I'm seeing all those games in RGB for the first time. It's pretty cool. But in a way I do get pissed off that I didn't know about RGB back then when they first hit. I could only imagine how great Bonk would have looked in RGB, when the game was first released. It would have been so freaking impressive for that time." - Anthony1, 9/10/04

"I Play SNES games on the "actual" real system all the time. Although, I must say that if the SNES wasn't capable of a RGB signal, I would probably be cool with playing the emulator on the XBOX and not even need the physical system. But because no emulator can compare with a pure, real RGB signal, systems that feature RGB, will always have a permanent home in my house." - Anthony1, 8/23/04

"I've decided to say goodbye to my entire collection of NES games and systems and accessories and stuff ... What happened? What was the change? Well, it's simple really. I have a NES emulator on my XBOX, where I can play any NES game in 1080i HDTV, with the XBOX performing Tri-linear filtering, and with the video mode on SuperScale2X and the video is just outstanding! The sound is very good to. Yes, I know that nothing can compare to playing the real game on the real system, with the real controller in your hands, but I'm telling you ever since I got that NES emulator working on my XBOX my real NES system and carts have been collecting tons of dust. I can fire up Contra anytime I want to on my XBOX hooked up to my 113 inch movie screen, and it's pure gaming bliss ... Also, the NES doesn't output RGB. When it comes to the TG-16, Genesis, Super Nintendo, Sega CD, Neo Geo, 32X, Jaguar, Saturn, Playstation, N64, etc, etc, they all work in RGB, but the NES doesn't. So while I will never ever get rid of my SNES or Genny or TG-16 for good, because of being able to use them in true RGB, with the NES it can't do true RGB, so that really isn't an issue." - Anthony1, 7/4/04

"Right now I have a modded XBOX with the Genesis emulator, Neo Genesis. Well, Neo Genesis is an amazing thing combined with a modded XBOX. You can change the video to 720P and add Tri-linear filtering, plus put it in SuperScale2x mode. I'm telling you, when you have it like that, the image that you get is amazingly crisp and clean and about 95 percent of what you would get with a RGB signal." - Anthony1, 7/6/04

"If you are playing the roms on a PC, then there isn't much fun in it. But with a modded Xbox, you are playing the roms on your regular TV and Home Theater setup. It's just so freaking convienent. Also, there are a few tremendous advantages to playing the Genny roms on the modded XBOX... You can have a video signal for your games that would blow the real Genesis out of the water. It's almost as good as the real Genesis hooked up to a RGB monitor. You have to go into configuration and set the video output to 1080i or 720p. You also have to turn on the XBOX filtering and put it in Tri-Linear filter mode. You also want to use video mode SuperScale2x. With all of that set, and if you have a HDTV, I"m telling you the Genesis looks fantastic. Way better than an S-Video mod." - Anthony1, 7/7/04

"Unfortunately, this DLP projector can't do an analog RGB signal that has a horizontal scan rate of 15kHz. I would have to get an old school RGB projector to do that. But, I'm sure things will look absolutely gorgeous via my Modded Xbox. Super Nintendo at 1080i is really nice and clean. Or you can run it at 720P. The Genesis in 720P is almost as good as real RGB. The NES at 1080i is very clean. MAME obviously is very nice at 480P." - Anthony1, 6/2/04

"Although playing the roms on the computer or a modded XBOX is a very cool thing, there is no substitute for playing them on the Real McCoy. Especially when you consider the RGB factor. I prefer to play my video games in native RGB when and if possible. So if it's a TurboGrafx-16, Genesis, Super Nintendo, Sega CD, 32X, Atari Jaguar, Saturn, PSX or Nintendo 64 game, I prefer to play the game in RGB. You can't do that on the computer. Sure there are some nice video modes with the different emulators, but nothing compares to the real native RGB signal. At least to me, nothing compares. And that is the big difference. You can get the actual controllers modded for usb to use on the PC with the emulators. So the only real difference is the fact that you can't get the true RGB display. So if I had a Game Copier, I could play the real game, on the real system in RGB." - Anthony1, 5/28/04

"All I know is that I'm playing Contra for the NES on a giant 51 inch widescreen TV in Full on High Definition 1080i in Dolby Digital sound. The picture is super crisp, and the sound is crystal clear, and I'm kicking back on my couch, 11 feet away from the TV, and life is beautiful. I can play Atari 2600, NES, SNES and Genny games in High Definition 1080i, and I can set the screen so that it fills my widescreen TV. It's freaking perfect. Well almost. Not as good as the actual real system hooked up to a RGB monitor, but pretty damn close!
" - Anthony1, 4/29/04

"I can assure you that games like Contra and Super Mario Bros. look really, really good in 1080i on the XBOX hooked up to a HDTV. The video is crystal clear, and as vivid as the crappy NES could be. And some Genesis games in 1080i almost appear to look as good as if it was a real Genesis hooked up to a RGB monitor ... Sure, there are lots of PC Video Cards now with Video Output to a TV, but usually the S-Video out that most provide look like absolute crap connected to your average TV. While a XBOX hooked up to a HDTV with the High Def AV pack, looks damn good." - Anthony1, 5/2/04

"I've tried my hand at emulation ... But there is just one major problem for me. RGB I love to play my games in "TRUE" rgb whenever it's possible. TG-16, Genesis, SNES, Sega CD, Jaguar, 32X, Saturn, PSX and N64. I play all those systems in RGB, and computers can't simulate "TRUE" rgb output. RGB is pure. Emulation isn't." - Anthony1, 4/18/04

"These are the systems that I know output a RGB signal: 1. Sega Master System - The Master system has the same audio/video plug as the Genesis, so if you have a Genesis RGB cable you can use that on the Master system as well. Of course you can also get the Master System converter that plugs onto the top of the Genny and get your Master system games in RGB that way too. 2. TurboGrafx-16 - The Turbo's RGB signal is kinda weak, and I think you need a RGB cable that has some aplification chips in it, to a get a great RGB signal from the Turbo. I think TurboDuos need to be modified internally to output the RGB signal. 3. Sega Genesis - The Genesis has a solid RGB signal, I don't even think you need any special chips to amplify the signal. In other words if you can solder stuff, then you can build your own. To get RGB from a Genny 2, you either need a specific Genny 2 RGB cable, or an adapter for the Genny 1 RGB cable that converts it to plug into the Genny 2. I'm almost positive that the Genny 3 doesn't have any RGB capabilities. 4. Super Nintendo - The SNES has RGB output, but the SNES 2, or SNES jr had the RGB capabilities removed. 5. Sega CD - Sega CD outputs it's RGB signal through the Genesis a/v port. 6. Neo-Geo - Neo-Geo has RGB output 7. Atari Jaguar - Jaguar has RGB output 8. Sega 32X - The 32X has RGB output, but you need to have a Genny 2 RGB cable or an adapter for your Genny 1 RGB cable. 9. Sega Saturn - The Saturn has RGB output 10. Sony Playstation - The Playstation has RGB output 11. Nintendo 64 - The N64 needs to be internally modified to output RGB. Not all versions of the U.S. N64 can be modified, and I don't think any PAL N64's can be modified. Also, the N64 RGB cable needs some special aplification chips in it to amplify the very weak N64 RGB signal. 12. Sega Dreamcast - The Dreamcast has RGB output. But since 90 percent of the DC games are progressive scan, might as well use the VGA Box and hook it up to a PC monitor or a HDTV. 13. Sony Playstation 2 - You can use a PS1 RGB cable with a PS2 no problem. 14. XBOX - I believe that there is a XBOX RGB cable that you can get, but I don't know why anybody would play their XBOX in RGB. Might as well play it in progressive scan on either a PC monitor with a "TRUE" VGA Adapter (not the fake ones) or play it on a HDTV. 15. GameCube - There is a way to get RGB from the GameCube, but it is expensive. It requires somebody to hack Nintendo's special component cable. The Cube might need to be internally modified too, I'm not sure. 16. Game Boy Advance - If you have the necessary items to play your Cube in RGB, with a Game Boy Player for the Cube you can actually play Game Boy Advance games in RGB on a RGB monitor!!!!!!!" - Anthony1, 3/31/04

"The Turbo was a very, very colorfull system. And if you get your Turbo modded to output a strong RGB signal, then it's on like DONKEY KONG!!!!! And I strongly encourage everyone to actually see their Turbo in RGB. Once you see the Turbo in RGB, it's like a dream come true. Does everybody remember that level in Bonk 1, where you go inside that Dinosaurs mouth? You go inside his stomach? You are like swimming around in his stomach? Do you remember that? That is one of the most colorfull levels ever. But if you see that level in RGB on a RGB monitor, then you have seen what Heaven looks like. (OK, maybe that was a slight exageration!) But I'm serious about the RGB for the Turbo. You guys have to freaking see it!!!!!!!!!!" - Anthony1, 3/30/04

"The TurboGrafx-16 in RGB is freaking incredible! But you will need a RGB monitor, like a commodore 1084S-D1, and you will also need to have your Turbo modified for RGB output. But believe me, it is worth every freaking penny. You know that level in Bonk's Adventure, when he goes into the dinosaurs mouth? Well, when you see that in RGB on a RGB monitor, you will be totally blown away." - Anthony1, 12/9/03

"If you are a big fan of the turbo, then you must immediately stop what ever it is you are doing right now, and obtain two things: 1. A RGB monitor 2. A turbo that has been modified for RGB output. Then you must immediately hook up Legendary Axe on your Turbo, in RGB on your monitor. Oh my F - ing GOD! That is what I first said, when I first saw the Turbo in RGB. It was only 2 days ago now, and I'm still totally amazed by it. I have never seen so many colors bursting off the screen at one time! The Turbo is an amazingly colorful machine. For it's day. Some games seem even more colorful than the SNES, and that's hard to do. You can put Plok! for the SNES up against almost any game from a color standpoint, but damn, when I saw a crappy game like Keith Courage, and saw how freaking gorgeous it is RGB, I was totally blown away. If only I knew that RGB existed back in 1989 and 1990. I didn't discover RGB till 1993, and I've never seen the Turbo or the N64 in RGB until just a couple of days ago. All I can say, is that I'm in total TurboGrafx-16 heaven right now ... I need to see more and more Turbo games in RGB! It's like a whole new world. Even the crappy games have to be seen to be believed!" - Anthony1, 11/21/03

"A guy I know, made me a special RGB box that I can use with a bunch of different systems. But the real reason that he made the box, was to use it with the Turbo and the N64. Both systems RGB signals are naturally too weak, and they need amplification and boosting. The N64 absolutely had to be modded to output RGB, but the Turbo doesn't absolutely need to be modded for RGB. But it is better to mod the Turbo for RGB, then do what I did. If I ever get a Turbo CD player, I will be screwed, cause I won't be able to see it in RGB. Had I done a internal mod, then I would be also able to see the Turbo CD in RGB, if I ever end up getting a Turbo CD." - Anthony1, 11/21/03

"Yes, there are alot of HDTV's with RGB input, but it isn't the right RGB input for old video game machines like the Turbo, SNES, Saturn, etc, etc. Those are digital RGB inputs, and the scanning frequencies are wrong. You have to get a old analog RGB monitor. Like the Commodore 1084. If you want a big RGB monitor, I highly recommend any of the larger Sony PVM series of monitors. I recently got a Sony PVM-2530, and the thing has been absolutely awesome." - Anthony1, 11/21/03

"I was thinking about getting a Neo Geo, the one with the CD player. Do the CD ones have any problem with RGB output? Cause if I did get a Neo - Geo, it would be to play it on a RGB monitor in all it's glory. " - Anthony1, 10/14/03

"I finally got a S-Video cable for my Atari Jaguar. This was the first time that I've been able to hook my Jag up to my Big Screen TV. All I had prior was a RGB cable for the Jag, and while it looked incredible on my 13 inch RGB monitor, 13 inches is still only 13 inches. So I hook my Jag up to my 51 widescreen HDTV, using the newly acquired S-Video cable, and all I can say is that Trevor McFurr looks freaking gorgeous on this big screen. I've never seen so much clarity and color in my life. The game looks like it's in High Definition or something. I know that everybody thinks Trevor McFurr is one of the worst games in History, but it also happens to be the best looking game that I have ever seen on this TV via the S-Video plug. That one level with the Baby Blue background, and the pastel colors, and those weird chirping birds, and those silver metalic Babies shooting arrows, just looks fantastic. It really looks so good, that I'm almost forgetting how bad of a game this is." - Anthony1, 10/13/03

"I have found a guy that will make RGB cables for pretty much every game system that is RGB capable, and he will make them to work with pretty much every RGB monitor out there. So if anybody has always wanted to see what RGB gaming is all about, but didn't have the technical savvy to build your own RGB cables, or didn't know of any place to get custom RGB cables built, I can hook you up with the guy. He will even do a TurboGrafx-16 RGB mod. The TurboGrafx-16 has to be altered internally to output RGB, but once it has, the resulting picture is absolutely breathtaking! I'm telling you, you have never seen colors burst off the screen like this. He charges $35 for the Turbo 16 RGB Mod. Also you can get your Turbo modded for import games at the same time for an extra 15 bucks. He will put a switch on it, that you can flip back and forth for either American or Japanesse turbo games. As for Playstation, Super Nintendo, Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, Jaguar, Saturn and Neo Geo RGB cables, he also does those of course. Basically, what he does is build one general cable that will go to you monitor and your stereo, and then he makes ends that connect to the different systems. I think he charges 30 bucks for the first cable, and that includes the general cable and the end to one of the systems. Then future systems are typically another 15 bucks for each little connector. For the Nintendo 64, he has supposedly learned how to modify these for RGB output. However, this is something he just learned recently, and it is a very difficult procedure, so you might want to wait until he has it perfected. This is another internal modification. With both the TurboGrafx-16 and Nintendo 64, you have to ship it to him, and then he modify's it and ships it back. He is in Hawaii, so it can get pretty expensive to ship stuff to him. He does ship stuff out very quickly. He built me a PSone cable recently, and shipped it out to me super fast. Also, the Playstation 1 cables also work in RGB with the PS2. So you get a 2 in 1 deal. If anybody is interested in getting custom RGB cables made, just send me a PM and I will give you his email address. I would give his email address in this post, but he only wants to hear from people that are going to buy a cable, he gets tons of requests all the time and is super busy, and he doesn't want people asking him general RGB questions." - Anthony1, 9/11/03

We got it.

[downfall]

"Look, I know that I do way too many posts on warm chocolate puddin', but you know what? It's all about Love, baby. I mean, I really have a freaking passion for warm chocolate puddin'. And the thing about it is that it is such a weird secret, people just don't know about warm chocolate puddin', and I hope I can influence a few gamers here to do their systems in warm chocolate puddin' and be totally amazed by the results."

ROFL :above me:

That is the single funniest thing I have seen on these boards in the short time that I've been here. It's 10 degrees of wrong, but at the same time, it sure is hilarious!

[Nez]

I know that I'm always pimping warm chocolate puddin'

Best line ever! LOL ROFL

[Sniderman]

"Look, I know that I do way too many posts on warm chocolate puddin', but you know what? It's all about Love, baby. I mean, I really have a freaking passion for warm chocolate puddin'. And the thing about it is that it is such a weird secret, people just don't know about warm chocolate puddin', and I hope I can influence a few gamers here to do their systems in warm chocolate puddin' and be totally amazed by the results." - Anthony1, 12/7/04

Holy. Crap. LOL LOL LOL LOL

Sweet, sweet comedy gold.

If I was Anthony, I'd be laying low for a while until this boils over. He's gone from "nearly obscenely enthusiastic R G B (ahem) expert" to "that guy with the puddin' fetish. "

[Captain Wrong]

I'm totally out of the loop on this one as well. It must be a great word filter because I feel like calling Bill Cosby myself and congratulating him on what he's done for us.

Hey, there's always room for Jello.

BTW, why can't you get pudding pops anymore? Those rocked!

[Kamino]

props for the newest word filter addition.
Freaking Awesome!!! Freaking RGB! I DON'T FREAKING CARE!

[Sniderman]

"I've tried my hand at emulation ... But there is just one major problem for me. Warm chocolate puddin'. I love to play my games in "TRUE" warm chocolate puddin' whenever it's possible. TG-16, Genesis, SNES, Sega CD, Jaguar, 32X, Saturn, PSX and N64. I play all those systems in warm chocolate puddin', and computers can't simulate "TRUE" warm chocolate puddin' output. warm chocolate puddin' is pure. Emulation isn't."

LOL :D LOL

[Anthony1]

Oh my GOD!!!!


How freaking funny is this!!!


Man, I got tears coming down my face I've been laughing so freaking long.


Absolutely hilarious!!!

[Tetsu]

Oops, looks like Lawrence hasn't paid his server company. Guess you'll just have to wait until he does, as his primers are the best.


Mmmm, RGB. it's all about RGB. RGB all up in my face. All up in my face. Mmm mmm...

[junglehunter]

I know you're just trying to influence, but you've already done your job. Now this whole R-G-B thing is starting to get annoying, IMO. Settle down... :roll:

PS; Puddin'

[izret101]

I love it! LOL

[mezrabad]

Okay, I just performed a RGB conversion on my HDTV. I opened the back, discharged the capacitor and poured RGB all through it. I closed the back and turned it on. Now my whole house has a special RGB smell.

Look, I'd never heard of Are-Gee-Bee until Anthony1 came buy and drilled it into my skull a hundred times. To me, it doesn't sound like he's bragging about his setup, he's just got a way to play games that he thinks is great and he's trying to let us know about it. If you don't like it, why are you even wasting your time reading the post when it's obvious what it's about?

So anyway, last night we took some RGB and my wife and I wrestled naked in it. It was a lot better than playing Vice City on my HDTV, hell it was a lot better than playing ANYTHING on my TV . . . wait, I'm posting this in the wrong forum aren't I . . .