PAL Gamers/Collectors: where do you find your rarity info?

[Kamino]

OK, so i'm entering the pal scene. Thanks to a cheap score on a pal zero wing(4.50-gbp shipped to usa) I'm finally getting in.
My question to you guys is, where the hay is your info? I don't feel as if i'm undermining DP - As the books say, DP is very NTSC-centric.
Any help is appreciated. I'm just trying to find lists/info for MD, SMS, Game Gear, NES and SNES mainly. :) I don't really care about "dollar worth" per se as much as just info as to what games you lucky PAL people got that NTSC didnt(such as super fantasy zone, mmm)
thanks chaps!

[thegreatescape]

For Mega Drive games theres nothing better than the online DP guide (unless your importing from Australia, but thats another story). James (Anagrama) has done a great job with the PAL releases :rocker:

He also made a list of MD games without Gen releases, which he would probably have posted here but I'll save him the trouble because I have it saved :D

PAL Megadrive games not released in the US
Addams Family Values
Addams Family, The
Alien Soldier
Asterix and the Power of the Gods
Australian Rugby League
Ball Jacks
Bloodshot
Bodycount
Brian Lara Cricket
Brian Lara Cricket '96
Cannon Fodder
Captain Planet and the Planeteers
Cheese Cat-astrophe starring Speedy Gonzales
Classic Collection
Daffy Duck in Hollywood
Daze Before Christmas
Dino Dini's Soccer
Disney Collection, The
Donald in Maui Mallard
Double Clutch
Double Hits: Micro Machines / Psycho Pinball
Dragon Ball Z: L'Appel du Destin
EA Sports Double Header
F1
F1 World Championship Edition
Fantastic Dizzy / Cosmic Spacehead
FIFA Soccer '98: The Road to the World Cup
Flink
Flux
Gunship
Hurricanes
International Rugby
International Sensible Soccer
International Superstar Soccer Deluxe
Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker
Kick Off 3: European Challenge
Man Overboard!
Mega Games 2
Mega Games 3
Mega Games 6
Mega Games 6 Vol. 2
Mega Games 6 Vol. 3
Mega Man: The Wily Wars
Mega Swiv
Micro Machines 2: Turbo Tournament
Micro Machines '96: Turbo Tournament
Micro Machines Military
Monster Lair: Wonder Boy III
Mr. Nutz
Ottifants, The
Power Drive
Premier Manager
Premier Manager '97
Psycho Pinball
Rise of the Robots
Sampras Tennis '96
Second Samurai
Sega Sports 1
Sensible Soccer: European Champions
Shane Warne Cricket
Shane Warne Cricket V2
Smurfs Travel the World, The
Smurfs, The
Snake Rattle 'n Roll
Spirou
Street Racer
Striker
Super Fantasy Zone
Super Kick Off
Super Skidmarks
Tintin in Tibet
Total Football
Truxton
Twin Hawk
Two Tribes: Populous II
Ultimate Soccer
Winter Olympic Games: Lillehammer '94
Worms
Wrestle War
Xenon 2: Megablast
Yogi Bear Cartoon Capers
Zero Wing

I recommend Worms, Xenon, Twin hawk, Truxton, Micro Machines series, Psycho Pinball, Cannon Fodder and the uber expensive Alien Storm and Mega Man.

[Gemini-Phoenix]

I too would like to see a little info regarding PAL games - Even if it's just stuff like confirmed release dates for PAL DreamCast games or something.

I was scanning through the database the other day, and it didn't even recognise a PAL release of Marvel Vs Capcom II!!!


I'd love to know about certain different releases of DreamCast games - Ie, different covers / language releases Etc...

[robotriot]

There's a German board (http://12045.rapidforum.com/) I frequent that has a rarity section - if you want to know how much a specific game is worth, you post a thread there and other users will tell you. The threads get updated once in a while, so that you've always got the most recent price. While they aren't exactly determining rarity values for each game, you can guess the rarity by the games' value of course ^^ I haven't seen any real PAL rarity lists though yet.

[Ernster]

If your looking for an Aussie NES list, check out the one I made :)

http://www.nintendogamingaustralia.com/australian_nes_game_and_hardware_releases.shtml

[anagrama]

There's really not a great deal of *reliable* info out there, besides what is in the DP database - SMS, MD, MegaCD, 32X, Saturn & DC are all covered, SNES and PSX (and others?) are in-progress.
If there's any other good resources out there I'd also love to hear about it.

[anagrama]

I too would like to see a little info regarding PAL games - Even if it's just stuff like confirmed release dates for PAL DreamCast games or something.


Release dates for almost all PAL DC games are in the DP database



I was scanning through the database the other day, and it didn't even recognise a PAL release of Marvel Vs Capcom II!!!

Here (http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=161107) ;)



I'd love to know about certain different releases of DreamCast games - Ie, different covers / language releases Etc...

Again, check the database - hydr0x has done an excellent job with the DC section, and almost all regional variations are covered, I believe.

[Ruudos]

I've a list on PAL NES on my site, http://nesfountain.silius.net

[Kamino]

For Mega Drive games theres nothing better than the online DP guide (unless your importing from Australia, but thats another story). James (Anagrama) has done a great job with the PAL releases :rocker:


Thank you VERY much, I badly needed that MD list.
According to an australian collector i know, AUS didn't get many sega exclusives - thus i'll most likely stick to PAL/UK in their ballpark...now to find the excruciatingly difficult info: SMS games, only released in PAL, that were not released on NTSC/U genesis, or PAL MD.... @_@

[anagrama]

For Mega Drive games theres nothing better than the online DP guide (unless your importing from Australia, but thats another story). James (Anagrama) has done a great job with the PAL releases :rocker:


Thank you VERY much, I badly needed that MD list.
According to an australian collector i know, AUS didn't get many sega exclusives - thus i'll most likely stick to PAL/UK in their ballpark...now to find the excruciatingly difficult info: SMS games, only released in PAL, that were not released on NTSC/U genesis, or PAL MD.... @_@

Bock's SMS release list at SMSpower is probably what you want:

http://www.smspower.org/museum/lists/smsall.txt

It doesn't have rarity info, but it's easy to see which games were released in which regions. Raccoon Lad's SMS section of the DP database should cover the rarity info pretty well (although a lot of games are rated a touch too high in comparison to other systems).

Also, regarding Australian MD stuff - they did get a few non-Europe games, but most were also released in the US - Fatal Fury 2, Ecco Jr and a few EA sports games. They also got Shane Warne Cricket (modified version of Brian Lare '96) and Daze Before Christmas, which AFAIK was not released anywhere else for the Genesis/MD.
There are also loads of funky Australian re-issues - the Gold Collection & Platinum Collection games, the silver cart games and the 2-in-1 doublepacks. For a relatively small market, they did quite quite a bit of unusual stuff.

[thegreatescape]

Since you mentioned ozisoft james, do you know if Europe got these "Sega Sport" re-releases ? So far ive seen Pete Sampras 96, WWF Raw, Fever pitch soccer (im not sure if its fever pitch or a similar game).

EDiT:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~smi03/variants/sega_sport.jpg

[Cauterize]

Since you mentioned ozisoft james, do you know if Europe got these "Sega Sport" re-releases ? So far ive seen Pete Sampras 96, WWF Raw, Fever pitch soccer (im not sure if its fever pitch or a similar game).

EDiT:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~smi03/variants/sega_sport.jpg

WOW ive never ever seen those before!
worth a lot im guessin even thou they are sports ones!

[pr8cjb]

I got lucky and found a .pdf of the MegaDrive rarity list from here floating around. The Mega-CD I've made up as I go along, but other than that there's precious few resources except for Anagrama's excellent work :rocker:

[hydr0x]

as already mentioned, all sega pal lists at DP (incl. my own 32X and Dreamcast ones) are pretty good already

Ruud has a very good PAL NES list and there's also Stans list from NES World.

For SNES, i'm working on it, didn't have too much time lately (haven't been active at the board too) but 95%-99% of all releases should already be in the db, of course still without rarities and prices, will take some time to do that (hoping to be able to do them in my holidays from february to april) but still there's no better list out there, trust me, i did of course search for other lists when i started my work on this one ;)

if you want to get an idea of what's rare for PAL SNES, check out this thread, everything NOT proven yet and the ones proven within the thread are quite/very/extreme rare

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41952

[anagrama]

Since you mentioned ozisoft james, do you know if Europe got these "Sega Sport" re-releases ? So far ive seen Pete Sampras 96, WWF Raw, Fever pitch soccer (im not sure if its fever pitch or a similar game).


No, they're another Ozisoft oddity, I believe. I've seen a couple of those before, but haven't thought to list them in the guide - I'll add them next time I update it. I know I've seen Brian Lara Cricket like that aswell.

Also, I got that copy of Shane Warne V2 a while back, and both V1 and V2 are based on Brian Lara '96. Not sure what the difference between the two is at the moment, I'll have to get a copy of V1 aswell and do a side-by-side comparison.

[hydr0x]

Also, I got that copy of Shane Warne V2 a while back, and both V1 and V2 are based on Brian Lara '96. Not sure what the difference between the two is at the moment, I'll have to get a copy of V1 aswell and do a side-by-side comparison.

are you still absolutely sure both exist? as i told you a while ago i bought Shane Warne from ebay australia and the box doesn't state V2 or anything like that but the cart is V2, i seriously doubt that two different versions exist

[Damon Plus]

I've a list on PAL NES on my site, http://nesfountain.silius.net

That list needs an small update, right Ruudos? ;)

[Arqueologia_Digital]

I´m working (but it´s very difficult) on a complete SMS TecToy release list... :D

Any help will be great!!!

Matías

[anagrama]

are you still absolutely sure both exist? as i told you a while ago i bought Shane Warne from ebay australia and the box doesn't state V2 or anything like that but the cart is V2, i seriously doubt that two different versions exist

Yup, I got a copy with V2 on both cart & box recently. It's just a sticker on the box, but is printed on the cart. There's copies on eBay.au without the V2 on the cart.
I'm guessing that it's either a seasonal update with slightly different teams, or just a bug-fix of some sort. Once I get hold of a V1 copy I'll check it.

[anagrama]

I´m working (but it´s very difficult) on a complete SMS TecToy release list... :D

Any help will be great!!!


Bock's list at SMSpower is comlete as far as I know. It doesn't have the alternate covers and stuff yet, but I imagine it'll all be in the forthcoming database version.

[Ruudos]

I've a list on PAL NES on my site, http://nesfountain.silius.net

That list needs an small update, right Ruudos? ;)

The we didn't made it list needs an update yes. I also saw a PAL copy of Best of the Best for NES.

[nitebycandlelite]

as already mentioned, all sega pal lists at DP (incl. my own 32X and Dreamcast ones) are pretty good already

I'm a PAL collector exclusively - I'm not interested in NTSC releases as a general rule, unless there's something really special that wasn't released in PAL. What I can't seem to do with these DP lists is just display any games released in PAL, regardless of whether they were released in NTSC territories too.

Is there any way of just showing the PAL games?

Only lists I'm bothered about are 32X and Mega-CD (have a Saturn and Dreamcast list already) :)

[hydr0x]

as already mentioned, all sega pal lists at DP (incl. my own 32X and Dreamcast ones) are pretty good already

I'm a PAL collector exclusively - I'm not interested in NTSC releases as a general rule, unless there's something really special that wasn't released in PAL. What I can't seem to do with these DP lists is just display any games released in PAL, regardless of whether they were released in NTSC territories too.

Is there any way of just showing the PAL games?

Only lists I'm bothered about are 32X and Mega-CD (have a Saturn and Dreamcast list already) :)

just click on 32X and non-us games, you will get all PAL and Japan games then (only one jap for 32X), not only the exclusive. problem is that a PAL-only search is not possible right now although it would be no problem technically, but even after several requests nothing has happened, only thing we can do is don't give up :D