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digitalpress
12-14-2004, 12:50 PM
In the time honored tradition of informing the general public of disasters waiting to happen (how many times have you held a game in your hand and thought... this looks like it could be good... but it could be REALLY bad), and in light of the fact that the US PS2 game list is now in our database, it's time to start fililng in those little warning flags "-" to go along with the now populated recommended "+" flags.

So what I'm looking for here are the PS2 games that you feel are genuinely awful. NOT games that you just don't like (I don't want to see well-designed games that just aren't your bag listed here, like Gran Turismo 3 or Final Fantasy X), I'm talking about games that were poorly conceived, designed, and yet released regardless.

Oh, one last note. If you're a Sony hater feel free to enjoy READING this thread, but I'm not interested in your opinion if it's "ALL PS2 GAMES SUCK" or "ALL GAMES ON GAMECUBE ARE BETTER". This thread is more for PS2 fans and owners. I want to hear what you would list as the worst of the lot.

Here was our "Really Bad PlayStation Games!" thread for precedence:
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35839&highlight=playstation

s1lence
12-14-2004, 12:54 PM
Summoner - Terrible game

Kid Ice
12-14-2004, 12:57 PM
The budget futuristic racing title HSX is pretty bad. And the funny thing was, it had a track editor...yep, just what you need, a track editor to make tracks for a lousy game.

Stretch Panic is one of the worse games I've ever played...really.

The others I can think of aren't agressively bad, they just don't suit my tastes.

Vroomfunkel
12-14-2004, 01:03 PM
No, no no no no! Stretch Panic (aka Freak Out in Europe) was great. It took a bit of getting into, and it is indeed freakishly bizarre, but if you want to claim that it was a truly terrible game then I have no option but to offer you your choice of swords or pistols at dawn ...

Vroomfunkel

s1lence
12-14-2004, 01:05 PM
Crashbandicoot : The Wraith of Cortex. Terrible load times, terrible controls, PS1 graphics.

digitalpress
12-14-2004, 01:08 PM
Summoner - Terrible game

I should have probably added: ... " and please explain why you think so."

Don't assume I (or anyone else reading your response) has actually PLAYED the game. Describe what's bad about it. Bashing of bad games by someone who knows why they're bad can be very funny to read.

MegaDrive20XX
12-14-2004, 01:08 PM
Star Wars: Super Bombad Racing <--- who's idea was this?

Dino Stalker- Gun Survivor 3 I heard was bad...I like gun shooters...I liked part 2 "Code Veronica" and many still say "Dead Aim" was awful

EverQuest Online Adventures <-- terrilble terrible...PC fans were laughing their asses off, thank god they released Champions of Norrath quickly

Unlimited SaGa <-- sad but true...I liked Saga Frontier...but this...I don't know

Mega Man X7 <-- yuck

Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness <--- It should have been left in the darkness to die...

Cmosfm
12-14-2004, 01:08 PM
DRIVEN!

Driven almost made me cry, I do NOT lie about this. Driven shot my nerves all to hell just TRYING to play it. Please...never....ever...ever play Driven.










EVER!

fishsandwich
12-14-2004, 01:08 PM
I just played Todd McFarlane's Evil Prophesy and I must say it SUCKS!

I won the game using one button. Punch, punch, punch.

Celebrity Deathmatch is one of the worst PS2 fighters I've ever played. Hit a button, wait a second, maybe the punch will connect. PLay it next to VF or Tekken or Even Bloody Roar as see what I mean.

Bad Boys just flat-out sucked. The gameplay is dull, the dialogue is dreadful, and the graphics suck. Who green-lighted this shite???

I kind of liked Stretch Panic in a weird way.

Cheers

:D

s1lence
12-14-2004, 01:11 PM
My bad.


Summoner : Terrible Camera, bland dialog. poor interface, very choppy with tons of fill in.

Gunstar_Hero UK
12-14-2004, 01:20 PM
I thought Stretch Panic (Freak Out here) was a pretty cool game. Very odd. But anyway, as this is about bad PS2 games. Simpsons Skateboarding is one of the worst games I have ever played. The controls dont work properly, its boring and impossible to perform tricks..

qbertandernie
12-14-2004, 01:23 PM
ive said it before...HERDY GERDY

i wanted to like this game. it has a cartoonish cover, seemed like fun, and it was $5, but the load times are horrendous. you run from screen to screen - what could be compared to about 100 yds in real life - and you have a 20 second load. some of the scenes are very small too, with just one character interaction. some are 20 sec load...talk to a guy for 20 seconds, turn around, 20 second load. awful.

i cant account much for game play, i could only handle these load times for about 10 minutes....and in that time i ran through about half of a farm..

portnoyd
12-14-2004, 01:57 PM
ive said it before...HERDY GERDY

i wanted to like this game. it has a cartoonish cover, seemed like fun, and it was $5, but the load times are horrendous. you run from screen to screen - what could be compared to about 100 yds in real life - and you have a 20 second load. some of the scenes are very small too, with just one character interaction. some are 20 sec load...talk to a guy for 20 seconds, turn around, 20 second load. awful.

i cant account much for game play, i could only handle these load times for about 10 minutes....and in that time i ran through about half of a farm..

I have to second that. I wanted to like it a lot... thought the art style was cool, and the concept was cool... then I played it. Everything that qb&e said is true, and gameplay-wise, it is lacking. I expected something deeper, and didn't get it. Not to mention those visuals I mentioned were pretty washed out when I played it.

dave

Gemini-Phoenix
12-14-2004, 02:06 PM
Tomb Raider: Angel Of Darkness definately. Bad control system and I think everyone would agree!!!


Medal Of Honor: Rising Sun - Got the feeling it was rushed out too quickly - Needed a little more time spent on it like the PC version...

classicb
12-14-2004, 02:10 PM
I'll second Stretch Panic as a bad game.

I only bought it because it had the Treasure logo like many of us probably did. I kept trying to force myself to like it and I was on the fence about how bad it was for awhile. It's really just a game with the concept of stretching everything and forgot all about gameplay, controls and story. I think if it didn't have the Treasure logo we would all be in agreament that this is a bad game.

WiseSalesman
12-14-2004, 02:24 PM
Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2 - okay, I don't even like the Leagcy of Kain games, but I had seen previews for this, and had gotten genuinely excited about it. My roomate finally bought it, and we found it had camera issues, bland, terrible graphics and ridiculous controls. The only good part was the story/voice acting. Even my roomate, who obsesses about all things LoK/Soul Reaver, found this game to be absolutely awful. What a let down.

davidleeroth
12-14-2004, 03:09 PM
I'll second Stretch Panic as a bad game.

No, no, no... If Stretch Panic gets the "-" I will start crying like baby Jesus. :puppydogeyes:
I'll admit I have love for Treasure but SP has a novel idea and although the gameplay needed tweaking, once I got to master the controls I got fun out of this one. Besides, Linda is cute.

Dahne
12-14-2004, 03:13 PM
Summoner 2 also achieves a special mention of awfulness just for being so excruciatingly mediocre. I could stand about five minutes of it before I had to drag myself to the PS2 and turn it off before the boredom entirely sapped my will to live. It was something about being on a ship and an island and fighting a couple pirates and being the goddess reborn or something and having which button you press to attack explained to me in loving detail. They took the formula for a dull, cookie-cutter action RPG and added box art.

s1lence
12-14-2004, 03:27 PM
Yes, Summoner 2 is bad for all the reasons why summoner 1 is bad.

Crush Crawfish
12-14-2004, 04:35 PM
:Ignores bad comments about the summoner games, megaman X7, blood omen 2, and stretch panic, all of which he thinks are good games:

The worst PS2 game I've had the displeasure of playing would be Spyro: Enter the dragonfly. I loved the PS1 Spyros, but when insomniac left, it became crap. Terrible level designs and shoddy controls ruined it. Don't even waste your time.

SoulBlazer
12-14-2004, 04:36 PM
Summoner for the PC is atually pretty good. :) It's just the PS2 port that stinks.

Really, I think almost all of the launch games for the PS2 were awfull. The only one I still have is Gradius 3+4.

RCM
12-14-2004, 04:52 PM
No, no no no no! Stretch Panic (aka Freak Out in Europe) was great

Stretch Panic good.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

Zubiac666
12-14-2004, 04:55 PM
"Portal Runner" if that's the name of the game(?).
good god......it's just an unplayable very crappy(graphs,sound everything) budget-title

and I thought "summoner 2" was awesome(I just have the GC version....maybe it's better?)

also "Soldier of Fortune" is just ridiculous
looks like a (poor)N64 port of the original

Kid Fenris
12-14-2004, 05:10 PM
I nominate Gradius III and IV just to upset Bargora.

My true suggestion is Hidden Invasion. A beat-'em-up from the makers of the equally terrible Soul Fighter (DC), Invasion fails in every possible way. The gameplay is inaccurate and repetitive, the level designs are boring, and the story is sloppy, leading to some truly ridiculous scenes. My (least) favorite level involves the player breaking into the White House through the sewers and chasing the President while gunning down Secret Service guards, all because you're trying to warn him about the aliens that have taken over the country.

It's also a glitchy mess. In the two player mode, both characters must exit rooms by the same door or the game grinds to a halt.

classicb
12-14-2004, 05:14 PM
No, no no no no! Stretch Panic (aka Freak Out in Europe) was great

Stretch Panic good.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

The next thing you know these Treasure fanboys will be saying Silpheed: The Lost Planet was a great game. What a disapointment that was. I love Treasure games (the good ones) as much as the next person but I can smell crap when it's coming out of my PS2. Maybe it doesn't deserve a "-" but its one of Treasures worst games.

pseudonym
12-14-2004, 05:15 PM
megaman x7. these games are getting worse and worse. they should just kill the series already. poor camera, control and plot. i would have hoped they'd finally fill in some of the huge plot holes but no they added some more. there's no continuity among any of the later mmx games. everything else is average at best. it's just a typical cookie-cutter megaman game.

RCM
12-14-2004, 05:24 PM
The next thing you know these Treasure fanboys will be saying Silpheed: The Lost Planet was a great game. What a disapointment that was. I love Treasure games (the good ones) as much as the next person but I can smell crap when it's coming out of my PS2. Maybe it doesn't deserve a "-" but its one of Treasures worst games.

Not a Treasure fanboy. I don't love everything they do. I did like Stretch Panic though. SP isn't their best for sure. It surely isn't one of the worst PS2 games though.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

Gamereviewgod
12-14-2004, 05:25 PM
March Madness '02: No season, no dynasty???? In 2002???

Top Gear Daredevil: Some of the worst control in the history of drving games. You cannot turn. You end up in a wall everytime.

jaybird
12-14-2004, 05:34 PM
Blowout sucks. Although not an exlusive title, I own the PS2 version & hate it - and I really like Contra-style games.

I tried playing the first level and my guy got stuck running backwards. The problem was, he also was shooting backwards, so I couldn't kill anything in front of me.

I turned it off and put it away forever.

jdc
12-14-2004, 06:57 PM
I'm playing Tomb Raider-Angel Of Darkness at the moment, and because I hardly paid a dime for it, I can forgive the outrageous drops in framerate....some of the worst bog-down that I've ever seen in a video game. The story, environments, control (once you get familiar with it) and graphics kick ass though. I cry when I think of what this game COULD have been with a teeny bit more polish.

The Summoner games were mediocre....in fact all of those Agetec RPGs could have been much better. King's Field....Lord, how I tried to play that game. There's just no immersion factor to any of them. They're all playable....just not a stellar gaming experience.

I've played SO many PS2 games over the years...and all in all I can say that MOST of the library has been really quite good. You have to sometimes forego super graphics in order to get great story and gameplay, or vice versa. I think that you'll find that there are few bonafide stinkers....and just lots of games that don't cater to all tastes.

ECWSandmanECW
12-14-2004, 07:37 PM
Top Gear Daredevil: Some of the worst control in the history of drving games. You cannot turn. You end up in a wall everytime.

I agree 100%
Was my 1st Ps2 game :(

Neil Koch
12-14-2004, 07:46 PM
My true suggestion is Hidden Invasion.

Ugh, that game sucked. I bought it cause it was cheap ($9) and it looked like Die Hard Arcade. Any fun is ruined by the appaling camerawork which makes it impossible to see what you are doing, and the cheap ass AI of the ememies, who are either brain-dead or spot-on killers. I sold it to Funco about 3 days later (and actually got $8 for it).

Also another very bad PS2 game is Fighter Maker. A very non-iniuitive character creation system that's more fustrating than fun. And even if you do manage to make a decent guy, the game isn't even as good as the original Tekken.

fuzzd0rk
12-14-2004, 08:23 PM
I'd say MTV's Celebrity Deathmatch was a pretty horrible game. It had a very generic fighting engine, was incredibly easy to finish and unlock characters, it didn't really look like claymation, and no Stone Cold Steve Austin. It was fun for about an hour.

grayrobertos
12-14-2004, 08:43 PM
Americas most wanted, this was probably the most recentgame to remind me of shaq fu

brykasch
12-14-2004, 09:38 PM
BReath of Fire DQ> Having played the first 4 in theries and lvoed em all. GOt this for 5 in the cc sale ages ago, and thought what a score. Man I couldn't have been more wrong. THe game had nothing to do with the first four, stoy, control, load times, bad bad bad, thankfully wa sable to trade this off for sly cooper a good game

pseudonym
12-14-2004, 09:50 PM
hmmm...

i actually liked breath of fire: dq. :)

Nez
12-14-2004, 09:51 PM
BReath of Fire DQ> Having played the first 4 in theries and lvoed em all. GOt this for 5 in the cc sale ages ago, and thought what a score. Man I couldn't have been more wrong. THe game had nothing to do with the first four, stoy, control, load times, bad bad bad, thankfully wa sable to trade this off for sly cooper a good game

I really liked this game! I liked the story and I don't remember the load times being a problem.

Famidrive-16
12-14-2004, 09:54 PM
Top Gear Daredevil: Some of the worst control in the history of drving games. You cannot turn. You end up in a wall everytime.

I highly second this, probably the worst PS2 game I own. The graphics are pretty and the courses are big but the car's too junky to move around and it's frusterating to accomplsih the missions.

drivefast1690
12-14-2004, 10:33 PM
:Ignores bad comments about the summoner games, megaman X7, blood omen 2, and stretch panic, all of which he thinks are good games:

The worst PS2 game I've had the displeasure of playing would be Spyro: Enter the dragonfly. I loved the PS1 Spyros, but when insomniac left, it became crap. Terrible level designs and shoddy controls ruined it. Don't even waste your time.
o yes, spyro would have to be the worst game for ps2, i too enjoyd spyro on ps1 but wow is enter the dragonfly a plie of crap, the load times abosulty killed me.

DigitalSpace
12-15-2004, 02:16 AM
Top Gear Daredevil: Some of the worst control in the history of drving games. You cannot turn. You end up in a wall everytime.

I agree 100%
Was my 1st Ps2 game :(



I highly second this, probably the worst PS2 game I own. The graphics are pretty and the courses are big but the car's too junky to move around and it's frusterating to accomplsih the missions.

You guys beat me to it. I bought a used copy of Top Gear Daredevil from Gamestop and exchanged it for something else the next day. It thought it was a racing game at first, then I found out that the main point of the game is to drive around various cities collecting all the coins in a set limit of time - there are minigames in the GTA series and other games that are bigger (and much more fun) than this. No racing whatsoever. It's boring, the cars are slow, and control is almost nonexistant. Avoid at all costs.

vincewy
12-15-2004, 03:11 AM
I'm surprised no one mentioned the 989 Sports Series, especially those right after launch, OMG, if you look at those games now, you simply can't give away.

Cleatis
12-15-2004, 04:06 AM
"Portal Runner" if that's the name of the game(?).
good god......it's just an unplayable very crappy(graphs,sound everything) budget-title

Portal Runner is the first game that came to mind when I saw this thread. Bad bad bad bad bad!

DigitalSpace
12-15-2004, 06:43 AM
"Portal Runner" if that's the name of the game(?).
good god......it's just an unplayable very crappy(graphs,sound everything) budget-title

Portal Runner is the first game that came to mind when I saw this thread. Bad bad bad bad bad!

Apparently 3DO wasn't satisfied with the amount of crap they created with the Army Men series, so they decided to throw Vikki in her own game and rip off the Tomb Raider franchise.

It looks like they succeeded, if only because the quality of the Tomb Raider franchise itself has gotten pretty awful - in fact, Portal Runner ranked higher on Game Rankings than Tomb Raider: Angel Of Darkness did!

Portal Runner - 56% (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/437052.asp?q=portal%20runner)
Tomb Raider: Angel Of Darkness - 54% (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/468726.asp?q=angel%20of%20darkness)

LOL

Cleatis
12-15-2004, 06:57 AM
"Portal Runner" if that's the name of the game(?).
good god......it's just an unplayable very crappy(graphs,sound everything) budget-title

Portal Runner is the first game that came to mind when I saw this thread. Bad bad bad bad bad!

Apparently 3DO wasn't satisfied with the amount of crap they created with the Army Men series, so they decided to throw Vikki in her own game and rip off the Tomb Raider franchise.

It looks like they succeeded, if only because the quality of the Tomb Raider franchise itself has gotten pretty awful - in fact, Portal Runner ranked higher on Game Rankings than Tomb Raider: Angel Of Darkness did!

Portal Runner - 56% (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/437052.asp?q=portal%20runner)
Tomb Raider: Angel Of Darkness - 54% (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/468726.asp?q=angel%20of%20darkness)

LOL

Oh yeah...Angel of Darkness. Theres another gem. Its good to know Core isnt making the next Tomb Raider. Maybe Crystal Dynamics can do a better job than Core did.

Zubiac666
12-15-2004, 07:02 AM
Portal Runner - 56% (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/437052.asp?q=portal%20runner)
Tomb Raider: Angel Of Darkness - 54% (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/468726.asp?q=angel%20of%20darkness)

LOL

rofl!

tomb raider IS bad but Portal Runner is pure crap.....it's crapness is unbeatable
It's more fun cleaning my toilet than playing this game

digitalpress
12-15-2004, 07:46 AM
hmmm...

i actually liked breath of fire: dq. :)

So did several others - it's been on our "PlayStation 2 Favorites" list (in Classic Discussions) for about a year!

Different strokes for different folks. Or something.

Lemmy Kilmister
12-15-2004, 08:04 AM
BReath of Fire DQ> Having played the first 4 in theries and lvoed em all. GOt this for 5 in the cc sale ages ago, and thought what a score. Man I couldn't have been more wrong. THe game had nothing to do with the first four, stoy, control, load times, bad bad bad, thankfully wa sable to trade this off for sly cooper a good game

I really liked this game! I liked the story and I don't remember the load times being a problem.

Yeah that game was awesome. In fact, I would say it's one of my top five PS2 games.

digitalpress
12-15-2004, 08:18 AM
Let me run this list by you. I haven't seen these mentioned yet...

Ever played any of these clunkers?

Antz Extreme Racing
Arctic Thunder
ChoroQ
ESPN National Hockey Night
Evolution Skateboarding
Evolution Snowboarding
Frogger: The Great Quest
GoDai Elemental Force
Gravity Games Bike: Street. Vert. Dirt.
High Rollers Casino
Jonny Moseley Mad Trix
Mike Tyson Heavyweight Boxing
Monsters, Inc.
Myst III: Exile
Paris-Dakar Rally
RC Revenge Pro
RISK: Global Domination
Salt Lake 2002
Shaun Palmer's Pro Snowboarder
Shrek Super Party
Trigger Man

FantasiaWHT
12-15-2004, 08:25 AM
I'll throw in another vote for Stretch Panic... it wasn't a game, it was a tech demo!

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, and it was the first game I thought of-

THE GUY GAME!!!!

Lord....

EnemyZero
12-15-2004, 08:41 AM
Eh....Im throwin another vote on Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness....so buggy...controlls sucked..camera angles sucked...story line sucked...crystal dynamics better make the next one good or its bye bye tomb raider...but honestly i lost track after the second one anyways

le geek
12-15-2004, 09:03 AM
I like Stretch Panic, but it IS a guilty pleasure... Still, I hope it doesn't get the (-)

Fantavision, despite having a fun FMV intro, is a pretty bad Tech Demo instead of a good puzzler.

How has the Bouncer held up?

Cheers,
Ben

Nez
12-15-2004, 09:28 AM
Shrek Super party wasn't tooo bad, especially with multiplayer. Granted its no good bad its not THAT bad.

Blendo75
12-15-2004, 10:29 AM
I guess I'd have to say Silpheed. Definitely the worst game I own for the PS2. I'm sure there's other games that are worse than that but thankfully I havent played em.

Oobgarm
12-15-2004, 10:47 AM
Fugitive Hunter. I have not played it personally, but I have never heard a good word spoken about the game. I hear that an Osama look-alike is a boss character who fights using Kung Fu. :hmm:

Jonny Moseley Mad Trix is worth checking out if you're into bad games, strictly for the awful, awful live-action opening. It's flat gameplay wise, but good for a laugh.

Also, a couple recently released titles that may be poopers:

American Chopper
Monster Garage

Cmosfm
12-15-2004, 11:06 AM
Let me run this list by you. I haven't seen these mentioned yet...

Ever played any of these clunkers?

Evolution Skateboarding - Not THAT bad, I actually had fun with it, it's for extreme sports game fans only though. Don't expect Tony Hawk, but expect a decent but subpar clone.

Gravity Games Bike: Street. Vert. Dirt. - God someone kill me. I had to force myself to stay awake during the LOADING TIMES! I spent longer loading the damn game than finding out that it sucked balls.

Jonny Moseley Mad Trix - Hip Hop tunes in a skiing game? no. Not only that it does stink as well.

Monsters, Inc. - I bought this on release day for 49.99, this was back when I had money out the wazoo to blow. I beat it, had some guilty fun with it, but it was short and only decent at most.

Salt Lake 2002 - O_o bad bad bad.

Shaun Palmer's Pro Snowboarder - This game is OK as well, not SSX Tricky, but not Salt Lake 2002 either.

Gamereviewgod
12-15-2004, 11:45 AM
Jonny Moseley Mad Trix - Hip Hop tunes in a skiing game? no. Not only that it does stink as well.

This might not have been so bad if it wasn't for the speed. There isn't any. At all. Your character never gets over 35 and that is excruciatingly slow. The trick system makes it out to just be SSX, but you can't get enough speed to get things going. Keep in mind they also made an unplayable mess on the GBA too.

qbertandernie
12-15-2004, 01:22 PM
i actually kind of liked Antz Extreme racing...
(wish i knew how to make those letters REALLY small)

the variations of cars and increased difficulty of tracks, as well as the varied races...kind of fun i thought. definately not the greatest game ever, but a neg? at least i could play it...

klausien
12-15-2004, 01:40 PM
No, no no no no! Stretch Panic (aka Freak Out in Europe) was great

Stretch Panic good.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

The next thing you know these Treasure fanboys will be saying Silpheed: The Lost Planet was a great game. What a disapointment that was. I love Treasure games (the good ones) as much as the next person but I can smell crap when it's coming out of my PS2. Maybe it doesn't deserve a "-" but its one of Treasures worst games.

Silpheed: The Lost Planet has no place in this thread. If you compare it to its source material, it is actually an excellent sequel. It does everything a sequel should. Silpheed is more about flash than excellent shooting anyway. It is not the greatest of games, but is certainly not crap. There are some pretty cool vertigo-inducing backrounds in Silpheed: TLP, and if you look at when it was released, it had some of the best graphics on the PS2 at the time.

As a Treasure game though, it is pretty weak. Nothing so straightforward is going to be anything but when its brethren consist of of Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga and Gradius V! I was under the impression that Treasure simply tweaked what Game Arts already had in place anyway. Treasure has made some questionable games in the recent past (Dragon Drive and that illusive GBA Tiny Toons game come to mind) that were most definitely to pay the bills. Nothing wrong with that in my book.

spoon
12-15-2004, 03:01 PM
Winback: Covert Operations by Koei. This game is so fucking bad and cheap. Ever played multi with AI bots? When you shoot them, they flash for 3 seconds or so, and can't be hit? Wtf? I picked this up to pass the time on the PS2 before MGS 2.

Kid Ice
12-15-2004, 05:25 PM
Silpheed's a pretty cool shooter. No way it belongs on the list.

I guess with the unexpected swell of support, Stretch Panic doesn't belong either.

Cauterize
12-15-2004, 05:27 PM
Oni, that gets my vote

bargora
12-15-2004, 05:45 PM
Oni may be overly complicated control-wise (I have to run through the tutorial every time I pick the game up at two-month intervals), but I think that it was pretty ambitious, and I kind of like it for that. The graphics aren't all that bad for a release title, either.

So what I'm saying is, I don't think I agree that Oni is a BAD game, Better than average? Maybe not.

Lemmy Kilmister
12-15-2004, 06:22 PM
How has the Bouncer held up?

Oh yeah, The Bouncer. I totally forgot about that crappy game, and for good reason, Man words can't describe how much that game fucking stanks.

FantasiaWHT
12-15-2004, 06:23 PM
Speaking of Square blunders (The Bouncer) didn't they make a really really bad racing game about the same time?

Lemmy Kilmister
12-15-2004, 06:29 PM
Speaking of Square blunders (The Bouncer) didn't they make a really really bad racing game about the same time?

Yeah Racing Lagoon. Though thats a PS1 game.

Frankie23
12-15-2004, 06:36 PM
Speaking of Square blunders (The Bouncer) didn't they make a really really bad racing game about the same time?

I think you mean Driving Emotion Type S, which received mixed-leaning-to-negative reviews, IIRC. Never played it myself, but I was never very interested.

DigitalSpace
12-15-2004, 08:12 PM
i actually kind of liked Antz Extreme racing...
(wish i knew how to make those letters REALLY small)

the variations of cars and increased difficulty of tracks, as well as the varied races...kind of fun i thought. definately not the greatest game ever, but a neg? at least i could play it...

I remember reading the review for the Xbox version in Game Informer. They gave it a 5.5. They wanted to give the game a worse score but thought it would fit well with kids.

ECWSandmanECW
12-15-2004, 08:41 PM
Let me run this list by you. I haven't seen these mentioned yet...

Ever played any of these clunkers?



Shaun Palmer's Pro Snowboarder


I thought this game was good :/

Richter
12-15-2004, 08:56 PM
How has the Bouncer held up?

Oh yeah, The Bouncer. I totally forgot about that crappy game, and for good reason, Man words can't describe how much that game fucking stanks.t e r r i b l e
watch a cut scene, pick a chacacterter, fight for 5 minutes, repeat. 1 hr later, you finished the game -.-

SoulBlazer
12-15-2004, 10:12 PM
I happened to like Bouncer..... :/

But I can't BELIEVE no one has said Orphen: Scion of Sorcery yet. O_O

tssk
12-15-2004, 11:07 PM
Bit harsh on Summoner although the pop up is terrible.

I put my vote in for DNA: Dark Native Apostle.

What the hell was I thinking buying this?

DaBargainHunta
12-16-2004, 08:45 AM
ChoroQ
I think this has been unfairly bashed by all of the mags and websites. I have it and enjoy it a lot. It may not be the best game in the series, but I wouldn't call it a clunker either. There's so much to do in this game, and once you get the hang of it, it's a rewarding experience.


GoDai Elemental Force
Putrid crap. Seems unfinished. I'd elaborate, but it's been so long since I've played this turkey that I don't remember much. I do recall a bad camera, glitches, and irritating freeze-ups.


Salt Lake 2002
Could've been okay, but the controls are a pain in the ass.

Warriors of Might & Magic is another one that could but cool but ends up being mediocre. At its core, it's somewhat fun to hack & slack and explore, but the graphics are ancient and the pace is dull.

I disagree wholeheartedly w/ the people who are classifying Silpheed as a bad PS2 game. I think it's a lot of fun. Best shooter ever? Probably not. But it is good.

Someone mentioned Fantavision, and I agree. What the hell is the point of this "game"?

As mentioned earlier, BlowOut is another disappointment. My main gripe is that there is absolutely no variation whatsoever throughout a level. If you've seen the beginning, you've also seen the end. Aside from being boring, the problem with that is that the levels are designed like mazes, and since every inch of a level looks exactly the same, it's too damn easy to get lost. I don't know if I'd call the game crap (it is somewhat enjoyable on a shallow level), but I had high expectations for it, being that it was an old-school 2D shooter. I should've known better for $10. Not horrible, but not great either. You pretty much get what you pay for.

mr_nihilism
12-16-2004, 09:03 AM
Fight Club - Anyone that wasted the few bucks to rent this must surely regret it.

Driv3R - I found this game to be rushed/buggy/lacking polish...whatever.

Nez
12-16-2004, 09:20 AM
How about that dark angel , didn't the show die before it was released?

RJ
12-16-2004, 09:40 AM
Well, I gotta get in on this...

Paid full price for The Bouncer, beat it in a week, sold it for$25 on Ebay. Pretty, but overhyped & very average at best.

I rented Driving Emotion Type S: you slide off the track, try to correct yourself by oversteering & slide off the other side of the track.

Myst 3: a must-play if you're at all into the series or the point & click genre.

Paris-Dakar Rally is a neat little racer. Long loads but decent overall.

Dino Stalker: quite playable, action-packed Guncon2 game, unofficial sequel to the Dino Crisis series.

Oh yeah- Silpheed rocks!

I cant really come up w/ anything truly horrible- I guess the WORST game I have is My Street ($5 leftover after the big Circuit City sale)

Dark Angel: Vampire Apocalypse is supposed to be virtually unplayable...