Final Fantasy 7: overated or not?

[Psycho Mantis]

I've been playing FF7 recently and it's fun, but i can't decide whether it's overated or not, so i want to know what all of you think.

[EricRyan34]

That is the best game I have ever played. I bought it when it first came out, and I still can't get enough of it!

[Nez]

Its alright. But what bothers me is that cloud looks too much like Aya Brea from Parasite Eve.

[Ernster]

Yes it's overrated. A bunch of boring RPG gameplay and OMG!!!! FMV. It annoyed me how everyone said the graphics were better than any N64 game, when really the in-game graphics were bad and they were just really reffering to the FMV. Anyway I guess I shouldnt say this game sucks, because I dont like any RPG games :P

Still I have to show the Nintendo fanboy in me so Zelda OOT > FF7

LOL

[WiseSalesman]

Yes, Final Fantasy VII is absolutely, positively overrated in every sense of the word. I can not be more clear on this point. Being a hardcore Squaresoft fan since the original Final Fantasy, I can tell you that Final Fantasy VII is one of the weakest games in the series. There is little to no character development, the dialogue is canned, all the characters play exactly the same (with the miniscule exception of their limit breaks), and the villains could not be more generic. Perhaps the biggest offense, however, is that this is the game that is almost single handedly responsible for making FMV more important than gameplay and content in the RPG genre. In any case, I could go on AT LENGTH as to how and why this game is so overrated, but alsmot everyone here has already heard my violent rants on the subject. If anyone wants me to clear anything up, I'll be happy to, and I'm sure I'll have some angry fanboys on my hands pretty soon here.

Alright, sylent, where are ya? ;)

[Aussie2B]

Absolutely. Even if I loved the game, I would still feel it necessary to admit that it's overrated and overhyped (hell, I'd rank Chrono Trigger as one of my favorite RPGs after tri-Ace's games, but I still know it's horribly overrated).

As for proof, I needn't look any further than my own email box. I wrote a negative review on FF7 that's hosted on GameFAQs (keep in mind that it's not a real bashing review; instead it presents the game as simply being below average hence the 4 out of 10 score I gave it), and I've gotten the most ridiculous email about it. Final Fantasy 7 fanboys literally cannot tolerate anything negative being said about the game. They just go ballistic. They have absolutely no understanding of the concept of an opinion. It's as if they think I'm attacking their religious beliefs or something. I just take it all as a joke, but it's really quite sad and pathetic when you think about it. I've gotten physical threats and every insult in the book thrown at me (and when they notice that I'm a woman, then they got a whole new vocabulary to use).

[maxlords]

100% overrated. I bought it when it came out, expecting another Final Fantasy III and boy was I disappointed. It's all flash and no substance. It was entertaining...for a while. But after a few hours you've seen most of what the game will be. I dislike it particularly because it set a new (and poor) standard for the mainstream RPG that hasn't been bypassed yet :(

[poe]

Final Fantasy 7 fanboys literally cannot tolerate anything negative being said about the game. They just go ballistic.

An experiment then. Ahem...

Final Fantasy VII can't have any children because it's impotent, but that doesn't stop the molestation.


Besides that, I agree with the whole overrated status. It also brought to the genre the element of padding gameplay from 40 to 200 hours by having that last 2% of the game's secrets unlockable only after obsessively grinding though mastering every materia to be able to kill those optional bosses (which are the only difficult enemies in the whole game, another problem I had with it).

[retroman]

not!!!

[whoisKeel]

Anything that is that 'rated' is guaranteed to be 'over-rated'. um...i mean...anything with that much hype, if you buy into it, is going to be disappointing on some level.

i think one of the major reasons it is so 'rated' :) is because it is a gateway rpg. it's an rpg game that even non-rpg'ers like, and one that gets alot of people hooked on rpgs (or just other ff games).

i like it, but it definitely isn't in my top 25 games list...if i had one.

[max 330 mega]

ITZ T3H SUXXORZ DOOD!!

[Crush Crawfish]

Personally, I think it's a great game. It's definitely overrated though, and it certainly can't cure cancer or raise the dead...though try telling that to a gamefaqs user. LOL

Also, I actually just started a new file in this game, and I never realized how bad the translation was. For example: "This guy are sick." "I'm so exited!" "touqh ring" and probably more...

[greedostick]

I personally think FF 7 was a great game. I think alot of people were expecting something else, but that was giant change in the series. Alot of people will just say that every final fantasy is horrible after 6, because mainly they don't like the change from 2d to 3d. I'll be the first to say i am definately a retro game player. pretty anti 3d myself. However i really think final fantasy 7 had a good story and a excellent battle system. I expecially like the linking of materia to weapons to create combos. And i thought the game had excellent music. Expecially in the area around the gold saucer where you fight ruby weapon, and the jail area.

Another thing, the other final fantasy games had happy stories. nothing really bad ever happed. if someone died you probebly didn't care. FF 7 never had a moment where you felt everything was ok. people died, things were never really resolved. people played the game hoping to escape and get put in a good mood. when in fact the game was not about that. it had a whole other meaning. death, poverty, and coping with the death of loved ones were a few of the topics that arose in this game. you don't play final fantasy 7 to have a good time. You play it to realize and learn that bad things happen and life isn't always good and fair. Final fantasy 7 is a much deeper game in my opinion.

RPG'S are not about graphics and battle systems. If so no one would like ff1. there was virtually no graphics, no story unless you had the guide, but for some reason it was a good game. It did have some great music though. If people would actually look past the graphics and look more about the story they might enjoy the game more.

I think the main reason i really like the game was cause I bought it when it first came out and i was lucky enough to get the versus guide. Which is short and sweet, and makes the game more enjoyable. the offical guide is trash.

Bottom line, if you play final fantasy 7 you will probebly be in a sad mood all day and do alot of thinking about life. Alot of people don't like to think.

here is how i feel about the series in order. not counting spinoffs.

FF3\6 snes
FF2\4 snes
FF3 famicom
FF7 PS1
FF1 NES
FF5 SUPER FAMICOM

FF8 SUCKS
FF9 SUCKS
FF10 OK
FINAL FANTASY ORIGINS SUCKS
FINAL FANTASY 2 FAMICOM SUCKS

[unbroken]

xenogears > ff7

[JJNova]

FF8 SUCKS
FF9 SUCKS
FF10 OK
FINAL FANTASY ORIGINS SUCKS
FINAL FANTASY 2 FAMICOM SUCKS

I don't understand how you have FF9 Suck, but 10 as OK?

FF9 is the forgotten fantasy because it actually WAS good. All the flash in the pan was added to 9, insted of being the main source, like with 10.

and besides, the FF9 project was done by the same overseer of FFVII

[Joelius]

VII was good, but I have to say that I enjoyed other ones better, including IX. I would throw a few RPG's over it also, I mean, it was good, but it was no god-game here people.

[evildead2099]

All console-style RPGs are overrated as far as I'm concerned. Play the first two Fallout games and I'm sure you'll understand why.

[-hellvin-]

ugh....yet another brewing of this ff sucks because everyone likes it discussion. Ya know, I have found something to enjoy in every FF game of the series. I loved VII when I played through it about 2 years ago after I bought my ps2 and I loved VIII and it's as simple as that. I like em and don't care if anyone thinks they're overrated.

[WiseSalesman]

I personally think FF 7 was a great game. I think alot of people were expecting something else, but that was giant change in the series. Alot of people will just say that every final fantasy is horrible after 6, because mainly they don't like the change from 2d to 3d.

It's not the change to 3d, I promise. Some of my favorite RPGs are 3d (Grandia II, for instance).


Another thing, the other final fantasy games had happy stories. nothing really bad ever happed. if someone died you probebly didn't care. FF 7 never had a moment where you felt everything was ok. people died, things were never really resolved. people played the game hoping to escape and get put in a good mood. when in fact the game was not about that. it had a whole other meaning. death, poverty, and coping with the death of loved ones were a few of the topics that arose in this game. you don't play final fantasy 7 to have a good time. You play it to realize and learn that bad things happen and life isn't always good and fair. Final fantasy 7 is a much deeper game in my opinion.

Wrongo. "Happy stories?" Did you even play Final Fantasy VI? Oh, and as far as caring if characters died, I didn't give a wet slap about Aeris. Talk about one dimensional characters....there was nothing to her, so why woul dI care if she died?


If people would actually look past the graphics and look more about the story they might enjoy the game more.

As far as I'm concerned, the story is simplistic and the worst kind of thrown together tripe. There's nothing interesting about the story, and the characters lives are never developed at all.


Bottom line, if you play final fantasy 7 you will probebly be in a sad mood all day and do alot of thinking about life. Alot of people don't like to think.

If you want to think about life, read some Vonnegut or see SLC Punk or Eternal Sunshine or something. If Final Fantasy 7 causes you to "be in a sad mood and spend a lot of time thinking about life":, you really need to reevaluate how much time you've spent thinking at all.


here is how i feel about the series in order. not counting spinoffs.

FF3\6 snes
FF2\4 snes
FF3 famicom
FF7 PS1
FF1 NES
FF5 SUPER FAMICOM

FF8 SUCKS
FF9 SUCKS
FF10 OK
FINAL FANTASY ORIGINS SUCKS
FINAL FANTASY 2 FAMICOM SUCKS

Hmm.... interesting. Here's my ranking:

FF2/4 SNES
FF3/6 SNES
FF8 PSX
FF1 NES
FF9 PSX
FFX PS2
FF5 SNES
FF7 PSX
FFX-2 PS2

I haven't played FF2j or FF3j, actually. They weren't translated yet back when I still had time for RPGs.

I hope you don't take any of what I said above personally, but I wanted to show that the reasons you assumed I didn't like FF7 were not, in fact, my actual reasons for not liking it. As a hardcore Squaresoft fan, I bought a PSX specifically FOR FF7, and, for a time, I too was taken in by it. I had to step back to realize that it isn't nearly as good as everyone seems to think.

[Dimitri]

xenogears > ff7

I agree!

Seriously, I used to think FF7 was a good game. An overblown three-disc cliche, but still a good game. Then I played Chrono Trigger.

...and then I played Phantasy Star 4, and shunned Squaresoft forever. LOL

[Cleatis]

I've been playing FF7 recently and it's fun, but i can't decide whether it's overated or not, so i want to know what all of you think.


I can honestly say thats one of the best games I have ever played. I love the story. I love it so much that about a month ago, I busted my ass looking for a novel version of it. It printed out as about 700 pages and Ive just started reading it. If anybodys interested, PM me and Ill try to find that Word document again.

[jdc]

Is Final Fantasy 7 overrated?

There's no way that it's overrated.

You can't stand here at the end of 2004 and even pose the question with fairness. On the day that Final Fantasy 7 was released it became THE benchmark for a popular console RPG. It was huge....3 discs!!! It had these awesome looking cutscenes. It took a long time to play, you really got your money's worth. My own save file was just over 120 hours long. The story was "cool". Sephiroth became insanely popular as a videogame representation of a badass. Play any MMORPG or online shooter today and you'll see people running around with the name. The music was phenomenal. The characters WERE different. (what the hell do Tifa and Barrett have in common in order for the characters to all be "the same?") The minigames were very imaginitive. Chocobo racing was a great diversion. Everything about the game was big.

Since then? Better stuff has been brought our way. WAY better stuff. Things progress. It's no different than any video game. It contained elements that some people simply didn't like....but for plenty of people like me it was a gaming feast and a joy to play.

As a matter of fact, I think that I'll go out and buy a copy when I'm out Christmas shopping today. I could go for another run through. :)

[EnemyZero]

Wouldny Aya look like cloud since VII was released before parasite? O_O ...anywho.... im not even gonna start on this topic :D

[AB Positive]

Final Fantasy VII introduced RPGs to 'the masses'. Some of it's hardcore fanbase will go nuts over it, but the percieved notion that 7 is one of the best is not overrating it in my mind. It IS one of the best, easily the best 32-bit rpg in existance, and occasionally makes a run at FF III and Chrono Trigger in my mind in my top three.

I love 7, I've played it through more times than I care to recount, and I still can't get enough.


I also STILL have yet to get a gold chocobo. I'm going to fix that someday.

-AG

[Lord_Magus]

Easily one of the best games ever.

[Sotenga]

Well, to be fair, it IS the game that got me into the Final Fantasy series, so I can't consider it a bad game, or an overrated one. It set most of the standards for RPGs in my eyes, and granted, they're hardly my favorite genre, but I found it enjoyable nonetheless.

Though, FFVII certainly ain't no substitute for Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. ;)

[greedostick]

Final Fantasy VII introduced RPGs to 'the masses'. Some of it's hardcore fanbase will go nuts over it, but the percieved notion that 7 is one of the best is not overrating it in my mind.-AG

ditto, final fantasy vii is the reason we have the wide selection of rpg's we have now. If not for that one game are rpg market right now would be 1\2 of the selecti0on it is now. it may not be for everyone. I don't see how you all can bash a game that is the reason we have all the choices we have in rpg's now. Whether you like it or not you should at least respect the fact that is paved the way.

how many of you anti final fantasy 7 people have actually beaten the game and got all the special materia?

[Lemmy Kilmister]

I personally think FF 7 was a great game. I think alot of people were expecting something else, but that was giant change in the series. Alot of people will just say that every final fantasy is horrible after 6, because mainly they don't like the change from 2d to 3d. I'll be the first to say i am definately a retro game player. pretty anti 3d myself. However i really think final fantasy 7 had a good story and a excellent battle system. I expecially like the linking of materia to weapons to create combos. And i thought the game had excellent music. Expecially in the area around the gold saucer where you fight ruby weapon, and the jail area.


Although I myself didn't care for the cast all that much, I most agree that 7 arguably had the best battle system in the series.

[demented-yoshi]

I enjoy that game.

I played it in 2003 at a friends for the first time if it wasn't for that game I would have never bought FF8 anthologies and orgins to me its the most fun one since you can beat most of it by using brute force.

I don't know why you say theres no character devolpment if theres none in that game their must be none in all of them.

and yes I do hate Aeris worst character and most annoying dumb bitch good thing she's dead.

[WiseSalesman]

. If not for that one game are rpg market right now would be 1\2 of the selecti0on it is now. it may not be for everyone. I don't see how you all can bash a game that is the reason we have all the choices we have in rpg's now. Whether you like it or not you should at least respect the fact that is paved the way.

That's BS, dude. You obviously didn't play RPGs during the 16-bit era, or you'd know that the RPG selection these days is no larger or more varied than the selection back then. All FF7 did for the RPG genre is cheapen it and make pretty FMVs more important than actual content.

In response to your other question, I've beaten FF7 twice, actually. I went through it once when it first came out. Later, I thought maybe I was on crack at the time because I didn't like it, so I went through it again. I'm sorry, but as far as RPGs go, it's just not very good. As far as getting all the special materia, I'm not really sure what you mean. Knights of the Round? Final Attack? The Master Materias? In any case, the only things I didn't really do in FF7 are the chocobo racing (because it wasn't fun at all) and getting the master materia (because there was no point).

[WiseSalesman]

I don't know why you say theres no character devolpment if theres none in that game their must be none in all of them.

That statement is both grammatically incorrect and makes zero sense.

[SoulBlazer]

Wow, Wise -- not only some good posts, but that's the firts time I've seen anyone agree with me on my ranking of the top three FF games. :D

I like every FF game and I do like FF 7. But yes, the game is overrated. But is this really new? So many good games out there, and games most people would agree is fun, ARE overrated.

Side note, I'm still giddy how I sold my PC port of FF7 last year for $50. :D

[JJNova]

I also STILL have yet to get a gold chocobo. I'm going to fix that someday.

-AG

That's like me and trying to catch a damn bee in Animal Crossing...

Two years, no bee. This week my wife sat down and caught two of them...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH!!!!

And no, FFVII wasn't over rated. Especially not for the time.
and Cloud and Aya don't look alike.....

She was alot sexier than he ;)

[calthaer]

My friend and I have been watching some of the old Mystery Science Theater 3000 shows on tape (while it was on SciFi). It's amazing - there are like 2-3 Final Fantasy VII commercials on every episode.

For the time, it was pretty darn good. It's still pretty good. It would be even better if someone would hack the PC version so that you could bring back Aeris. But I'm pretty sure that the massive amount of marketing has built this thing up to legendary proportions which aren't completely deserved.

[greedostick]

. If not for that one game are rpg market right now would be 1\2 of the selecti0on it is now. it may not be for everyone. I don't see how you all can bash a game that is the reason we have all the choices we have in rpg's now. Whether you like it or not you should at least respect the fact that is paved the way.

That's BS, dude. You obviously didn't play RPGs during the 16-bit era, or you'd know that the RPG selection these days is no larger or more varied than the selection back then. All FF7 did for the RPG genre is cheapen it and make pretty FMVs more important than actual content.

That's just a ridiculous statement. I have been playing games for 19 years. The first 3 rpg's I ever beat we're final fantasy, dragon warrior, and final fantasy 2 (snes).

The rpg market is more flooded now that ot has ever been. Look at the games that we're released in japan we never got. seiken densetsu III, star ocean, final fantasy III, final fantasy II, final fantasy V, dragon quest. Maybe it's just coincedence that all these games now have released sequels or re-released to the usa market AFTER the release of the ps1. I never recall people begging for ports of the final fantasy games before final fantasy 7. Nor do i recall as many rpg's back in the nes and snes days as there are now. Squaresoft was basically the only company that made rpg's for the snes, and the only rpg's for the genesis were by segas sonic team, with excepton of the not popular at the time phantasy star series.

You can make up whatever BS you want just cause you don't like the game, but the fact is after final fantasy 7 release rpg selection has been steadily climbing, there are more companies making rpg's now than ever before.

gee, this game was really popular called final fantasy 7, it sold millions of copies, more than any other rpg in the usa until that time. Now all the sudden everyone's making rpg's. I am sure the wide success of final fantasy 7 has nothing to with all those new and old companies now making rpg's and trying to cash in on a few thereselves. They probebly just had the idea around the same time as final fantasy 7's release to make a rpg, but it took them a year longer to make there games.

Ridiculous :/

[Aussie2B]

In response to your other question, I've beaten FF7 twice, actually. I went through it once when it first came out. Later, I thought maybe I was on crack at the time because I didn't like it, so I went through it again. I'm sorry, but as far as RPGs go, it's just not very good.

That's pretty much my experience as well. I played through it once (except I did EVERYTHING - leveled up everyond to 99, got every materia, the gold chocobo, etc. - pretty much the only thing I never did was replay it enough times to see all the different dates), spent about 100 hours on it, but I just couldn't like it much. A year or two later, I figured I'd give it another go. I rushed through the game in an attempt to try to squeeze some difficulty out of it, but no matter what I did it was still painfully easy and dull and I STILL couldn't stand the plot and characters even after I made sense out of the convoluted mess the story is. So yeah, after giving it about 150 hours of a chance to prove itself to at least be decent, I came to the conclusion that it was among the worst RPGs I've played (out of TONS).

And while I would say that I don't really like any Final Fantasy after 6 all that much, it's not because of the transition to 3D. I love many 3D RPGs, and I have no problems following my favorite series from 2D to 3D (Mario, Zelda, Sonic, Goemon, Castlevania, Kirby, etc.) There were much bigger changes that took place. Most crucial to me is the fact that the battles got EXTREMELY slow and easy. The atmosphere of the games changed as well. Granted, the older games had death and dark moments, but they still retained a light-hearted feel. The later games got loaded with annoying teenage angst and corny convoluted plots. I haven't really found any Final Fantasy character likable since before FF7, but I can't quite pinpoint the reason for that.

[JJNova]

I'm still waiting for a port of Final Fantasy for the handheld. That dawn of souls GBA game is a slap to the face.

[Kid Fenris]

Somewhere, theaveng is tossing his head back in maniacal laughter.

[Aussie2B]

Look at the games that we're released in japan we never got. seiken densetsu III, star ocean, final fantasy III, final fantasy II, final fantasy V, dragon quest.

I can't speak for all of the games, but Seiken Densetsu 3 and Star Ocean didn't get US releases for reasons that had nothing to do with the popularity of RPGs in the US. First of all, they were quite late Super Famicom releases. By the time a localization for either would be finished, it would probably be at least 1997. An even bigger factor is the size of the carts. They were both the largest size a Super Famicom or SNES cart ever reached. Considering that they're both text-heavy and English text ALWAYS takes more storage space, they'd probably have to be even larger for the US, and that costs money. So let's see... RPGs in the US commonly sold for $70-$80 to begin with... let's guess that Seiken Densetsu 3 and Star Ocean would cost $90... in 1997 when you could get a brand new PlayStation or N64 game for $50... and RPGs didn't sell that great anyway... chance of profit extremely unlikely.


Maybe it's just coincedence that all these games now have released sequels or re-released to the usa market AFTER the release of the ps1. I never recall people begging for ports of the final fantasy games before final fantasy 7.

I don't know about Final Fantasy, but you needn't look any further than old Nintendo Power to see people begging for US releases of Dragon Quest 6 and other Super Famicom RPGs BEFORE Final Fantasy 7 had come out.


Nor do i recall as many rpg's back in the nes and snes days as there are now. Squaresoft was basically the only company that made rpg's for the snes, and the only rpg's for the genesis were by segas sonic team, with excepton of the not popular at the time phantasy star series.

Assuming you're talking about US RPGs only, even then there were several non-Squaresoft SNES RPGs. Nintendo brought us Earthbound, Capcom made Breath of Fire 1 and 2, Taito created and Natsume published Lufia 1 and 2, Enix brought out a few RPGs and adventure games, etc. There were definitely more options than just Square RPGs for SNES.


You can make up whatever BS you want just cause you don't like the game, but the fact is after final fantasy 7 release rpg selection has been steadily climbing, there are more companies making rpg's now than ever before.

gee, this game was really popular called final fantasy 7, it sold millions of copies, more than any other rpg in the usa until that time. Now all the sudden everyone's making rpg's. I am sure the wide success of final fantasy 7 has nothing to with all those new and old companies now making rpg's and trying to cash in on a few thereselves. They probebly just had the idea around the same time as final fantasy 7's release to make a rpg, but it took them a year longer to make there games.

I don't even know what the heck you're getting at with this. If by "making" you mean "companies publishing RPGs in the US", I suppose you'd be right, but it's completely false that more RPGs are being made now than prior to Final Fantasy 7. Do you have any idea just how many RPGs came out for the Super Famicom in Japan? There was a greater variety of companies making RPGs than pretty much any other genre. The market was flooded with them.

[Cirrus]

I am glad to see there are some people out here that aren't crazy Final Fantasy 7 loveslaves. It's funny, recently I've wondered where I could go to discuss games and enjoy myself, in terms of message boards, and gamefaqs.com is just too terrible. I have the DP guides, and I thought the forums here might be decent, just because of the newsletter. First thing I see on the front page is a link to this thread. Terrfic.

Anyway, I played all of the SNES Final Fantasy games in middle school, and was very excited when Final Fantasy 7 came out. It wasn't a bad game, and I am pretty sure I loved it at the time (early on in high school). Now, at 24, I have dealt with the worship of this "decent" game for far too long.

Here's the problem with this game: it is the very first good RPG that anyone born after 1985 seem to have ever played, and it has that special "my first time" quality. And they can't get enough of the emo characters. It is, to me, about a "7 out of 10" game, which is great, but still nowhere near the perfection class that it seems to have attained is so many groups.

It's good to see that not everyone on the web has a chibi Sephiroth and Cloud doll on their mantle.

[SoulBlazer]

Actually, Dawn of Souls is wonderfull -- and even better then Final Fantasy Orgins were.

There were rumors a few years ago that FF 7-9 were going to be remade for the PS2. I'd still like to see that. 7 just looks so laughable these days, especily when compared to the super-sharp realistic look of FF 8 and the 'old school' look of 9.

[JJNova]

I am glad to see there are some people out here that aren't crazy Final Fantasy 7 loveslaves. It's funny, recently I've wondered where I could go to discuss games and enjoy myself, (yada yada yada)

I cut the quote of you short, because I just wanted to welcome you to the Forums. I'm pretty much the opposite of you, I didn't know there was more to DP than the Forums until about 2 months ago. I just found out there were models today. Hmph! Who woulda thunk it?

You do bring up a good point though. EGM this month (Yes, the one with the fake cover that's actually an advertisement) has done another installment of "Lets force the kids to play the games we grew up on". There was one kid that I give props to, I dont remember the little sinisters name off the top of my head, but he respected the old game. Most of the kids didn't though. Most of them pissed and moaned and cried. It was nerly as bad as last years segment, but bad enough.

These are the games that I still hold dear and as great peices of software. So maybe I am also that way towards FF7, it's more of the memories than the software itself.

Who knows, maybe Super Mario Bros 3 sucked. I don't care, to me FF7 isn't overhyped....

But! I do think that this whole Advent Children and FFVII : Crisis Core are taking it too far.

I'm not a fan of Online Final Fantasy, because like most users here, It has been a solo game for so long to me. I don't need Final Fantasy Everquest, I need a good solid game.

I'm also not a fan of FFX and up. Especially after they created a sequel. Final Fantasy games had always ended themselves up until that point (Except, of course, for the new FFVII sequel coming to the PSP).

Alas, I have taken up too much space on this thread, and must end my drivel, since it's so far down the line of posts that no one will read it anyway.

EDITED: Because I said FVIII instead of FFVII...one too many I's.

[JJNova]

Actually, Dawn of Souls is wonderfull -- and even better then Final Fantasy Orgins were.

There were rumors a few years ago that FF 7-9 were going to be remade for the PS2. I'd still like to see that. 7 just looks so laughable these days, especily when compared to the super-sharp realistic look of FF 8 and the 'old school' look of 9.

I want a literal port though. The Original Final Fantasy took up a lot of my time. And a lot of Frustration when Holding Down reset and pressing power didn't work to save. Maybe I was just doing it wrong. As for the sequel to FF7, just lok above.

[Habeeb Hamusta]

Final Fantasy VII is EXTREMELY overrated. I played and beat this game, and hated it. It was one of the most, if not, the most easy RPG I have ever played. There were only two hard monsters in the ENTIRE game. I mean cmon, the last boss dies in one hit. The story was completely lame. Just another "I have to save the world and the girl" story. No innovation at all. The only reason everyone loved this game is because it was easy and the story was weak so everyone could understand it. Final Fantasy 8 was a much better game.

[Cirrus]

To imagine I'd be defending FF7 after my last post. It certainly is much more than a "save the world, save the girl" game. Or perhaps less. But I feel that it fits in a different category.

And I know this is off topic, but what is everyone's LEAST favorite Final Fantasy game that they have played? Mine is, without a doubt, Final Fantasy Pokemon. I mean, Final Fantasy Guardian Force Xtreme...

I mean, Final Fantasy 8.

"I choose you, Cactaur!!"

[JJNova]

Final Fantasy 8 is by far my least liked FF. I personally think they did the same mistake they did with Spirits Within.... It was alright, but shouldn't have had the Final Fantasy name on it

[SoulBlazer]

And I rank FF 8 was my third favorite game and ahead of 7. But it's all a matter of personal taste.

We could spend a month arguing all aspects of the FF series, so let's try to stay on topic. :D

[badinsults]

I think that FF7 would be a hell of a lot better if the translation was done better. As it is, it is a fragmented and confusing story. Did anyone really know why Tifa was not able to recall when Sephiroth came to her town? Or that her town was not burned down? Or what happened to Cloud's mother?


As for the gameplay, I thought it was mostly standard Final Fantasy gameplay (it changed significantly for FF8). Sure, the game was pretty easy, but then so was FF6. Other than the static backgrounds, the graphics are pretty crappy, and I have always maintained that. The FMV was quite pointless and usually looked "thrown in".


Overall, even though I rate it behind the other three games released here before FF7, I still think it is better than subsequent Final Fantasy games.

[SoulBlazer]

I will add one note -- although the translation in FF 7 is a little weak, it's not as bad as some other games (I'd rate it higher then Suikoden's 2, for example) and is much better then previous FF games.

Also, do a read of the script from the Japanese version of the game -- you'll see the translation errors really don't affect the story. That's one of the things I disliked about FF 7 -- it's a DAMN confusing story that numerous replays don't help you understand. Easily the most confusing story of the series.

[demented-yoshi]

wow this Idiotic topic had become Everyone Vs. wisesalesmen & Associates

And am I aloud to have my own oppinion about what I think wisesalesmen? I guess not all you do Is keep posting picking apart my grammar and saying people who like FF7 oppinion's have no point good job you have proven you have much time availble to insult us about our choices of what we like great job. I can respect that you dislike FF7 but can you respect my opinion that I like it?

I leave you to insult my grammar now go ahead.

[sabre2922]

FF7 while a good game is overrated I think 9 on PSone was and still is the last great FF made.
I hated part 8 and the new ones on PS2 are all flash and very little substance

[Tatsu]

It's all about taste in the end!

For me FF VII isn't overrated at all. It's maybe my favourite RPG and the best part of the FF series (but FF IX gets very close). I got it when it came out and at the beginning I wasn't sure if I would like it because it looked darker than the previous titles. But I really care about the story; men destroying the planet for profit and all.

[nermal]

No way is this game overrated. This is the best game I have ever played without a doubt.

[slip81]

I don't think it's too overrated. I like the game more now than I did back when it first came out. Then I though the game was a little too easy and linear, and it still is, but I've come to enjoy the story and enviorments more. I'm not a huge fan of FMV, but I can think of a quite a few more RPG's that do it worse than FFVII.

While it's not the best RPG by any rights, it's still a solid title IMO, and it deserves credit because it was basically the game that brought the genre out of the basement. And it's better than VIII, and I'd say I like it as much as IX as well.

[anagrama]

It's the only RPG I've ever played to 100% completion - killing both Weapons, Gold Chocobo et al.
I really liked it at the time (on release in '97) and believe it does justify most of the accolades it recieves. However, there is absolutely no way I'd ever want to play it again after investing 60+ hours in it the first time around.
Also, anything that is exalted to the degree it is in some quarters (*cough*GameFAQS*cough*) can probably be fairly called over-rated.
I think a lot of the hardcore-RPG players hate it purely because it introduced the "ignorant casual masses" to their previously secret little cult. More fool them.

[DDCecil]

I played though it 3 times, got all the secrets and what not, but it is still my least favorite FF game of all-time (Yeah I like 2j, 8, 9, 10, 10-2, and Mystic Quest better - Feel free to flip me the chocobo) and not because the game is "popular". I occasionally play it for the 2 Gold Saucer Mini-Games (Snowboarding and Shooter mini-game), and that's about it.

[Beefy Hits]

This is the first RPG for people who don't think it's overrated. Seriously, this game was pushed hardcore when it first came out, and it's the first mainstream RPG. Whoever played this didn't grow on RPG classics like Chrono Trigger, FFIV, FFVI, Any of the Dragon Warriors, or any of the other RPGs of the NES-SNES days.

[kainemaxwell]

FF7's a great game. It feels like all the fanboys for it from then up to now caused it to be termed overrated. *shrug