whats the deal with R G B monitors anyway?

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i always hear everyone talking about r g b this, r g b that. but , for reason i thought that R G B was an older technology used on older tv's, or am i wrong? and why don't people just use component video insted, i thought that was the best?

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[dj898]

RGB is pure form of processing signal - before NTSC/PAL stuff...
in layman's term this will give you the best possible interlaced signal free of any encoding and etc. Also almost all gaming console process internally in RGB and encode to NTSC/PAL to output via their cable you can see that by tapping RGB signal directly before encoding you will be clean and pure signal. Of course it is only popular in Europe especially UK as other part of world you won't find it on consumer telly...


hope this of any help...
and if anyone see any error feel free to correct.. I tried to explainas simple as possible though...

cheers

[Anthony1]

Here is a breakdown of video game signals, from best to worst




1. True HDTV 720P/1080i - output for Video Games is the best. Unfortunately, only XBOX can achieve this in it's "TRUE" form, and very few XBOX games actually do offer "true" HDTV. A great example is Amped 2. This game can output 720p. But you still need a HDTV that can actually display a native 720p signal. And you need the XBOX High Def A/V Pack.


2. 480P - Progressive Scan is the second best. Basically a resolution of 640 x 480, non-interlaced. Virtually every single XBOX game can do this, most of the best GameCube games can do this, a few PS2 games can do this, the majority of Dreamcast games also are 480p compatible. You need a TV that can display a progressive signal. For XBOX you need the High Def A/V Pack, for PS2 you need the component cables, and for GameCube you need the special component cable that you have to order directly from Nintendo for. For Dreamcast you need the VGA Box and a VGA to component adapter.


3. Analog RGB - If you can't view the game in High Def or 480P, then the best way to go is analog R G B. For all those PS2 games that aren't 480p compatible, R G B will give you the best picture quality, period. Same thing with all the GameCube games that aren't 480p. With XBOX, there is only one or two games that aren't 480p, so I wouldn't even worry about it for XBOX. For Dreamcast there isn't that many DC games that aren't 480p, so I wouldn't worry about it for that either.

And then you have the older systems. They are absolutely perfect for R G B. The TurboGraphx-16, The Sega Genesis, The Super Nintendo, The Neo-Geo, The Sega CD, The Turbo Duo, The Atari Jaguar, The Sega 32X, The Neo-Geo CD, The Sega Saturn, The Playstation, even the Nintendo 64. All of these systems will look best on a R G B monitor with the right R G B cable.


4. Component 480i - I think that the only system that this matters for, really is the PS2. If you use component cables, and you don't have a TV that does 480p, but your TV will accept 480i component, then this is a decent alternative to a R G B cable and a R G B monitor for your PS2, but the signal isn't as good as real R G B. Don't kid yourself into thinking this is the equivalent to R G B. It's not.

5. S-Video - For the older systems, S-Video is always an option. But most of these older systems also do R G B, so you are better off with that. But if you are hooking up a SNES to a big 50 inch Big Screen, then yes, use the S-Video plug for best picture.

6. Composite - For systems like the NES, composite is the best you can do. It's better than the RF hookup, but nowhere near as good as S-Video or R G B. For the TurboGraphx-16, you shoud use composite, with the Turbobooster, if you can't play it on a R G B monitor. Same thing with Genesis and Sega CD.


7. RF - Avoid if at all possible. RF is the worst signal you can get. It's quite funny to me that people out there have XBOX's hooked up via RF, because they don't know any better.

[dj898]

any idea why DP forum replaces R G B with warm chocolate pudding crap??? :eek 2:

[donnie]

Proper rgb on a good pal(non 100hz) crt tv is the best there is in my opinion..I even prefer it to progressive.

Except for xbox..its strange but it seems like ms skimped on it.

[Anthony1]

any idea why DP forum replaces R G B with warm chocolate pudding crap??? :eek 2:


Because I went R G B crazy in this one post, and they knew that it would be absolutely hilarious to read that post with warm chocolate pudding substituted for R G B.


Believe me, I was on the floor laughing my ass off, when I first read that one post that I did, when they changed it to Warm Chocolate Pudding. I was laughing so hard that tears were coming down my face.

It was kinda a way for them to say, "Anthony would you stop with all the damn R G B posts", without coming right out and saying that to me.

[dj898]

for a second I thought I mistyped but there are way too many letters in warm chocolate pudding than R-G-B :D

[portnoyd]

any idea why DP forum replaces warmer, choclatey-er puddin' with warm chocolate pudding crap??? :eek 2:

Because I love to play my games in RGB.

[fergojisan]

I finally found the thread and figured out the rgb thing. I haven't laughed so hard in a long time.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47672&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=andreas%20rgb

rgb!!!

ROFL

[Avatard]

I still don't get it.

[Flack]

Anthony, you should take all your knowledge of video types, quality and connections, and put it together into some sort of online FAQ. Then we could refer people to it whenever they have questions. I'll bet if you wrote something up, Joe would even be happy to host it.

[Promophile]

Anthony, you should take all your knowledge of video types, quality and connections, and put it together into some sort of online FAQ. Then we could refer people to it whenever they have questions. I'll bet if you wrote something up, Joe would even be happy to host it.

I second that. I suck at all this tech stuff, and I would love a nice FAQ explaining all this stuff about which type of HDTVs to get for gaming and such.

[dj898]

so much warm chocolate pudding... and I like it cold... o_Y

[Jorpho]

While we're on the subject (I think), could someone explain what the "temperature" of a color means? On my Viewsonic monitor I find it under "Viewmatch Color", although the K's (degrees Kelvin?) are missing.

[chaoticjelly]

I love RGB and I always use it

Its surprising its not the standard in America, lol

[calthaer]

Now if only I knew what warm chocolate pudding really was, that would help...

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

It's RGB, plain and simple. Also known as R G B or R-G-B. ;)

[slip81]

While we're on the subject (I think), could someone explain what the "temperature" of a color means? On my Viewsonic monitor I find it under "Viewmatch Color", although the K's (degrees Kelvin?) are missing.

I'm not sure if it's the same for t.v, but it art color temprature is used to describe a certain tone or feel of a color. Brighter colors like red, and yellow are reffered to as "warm" and darker muted colors like blue, are called "cold"

the terms are also used in the printing industry, when a designer goes over to check on the printouts usually if any changes to the colors need to be made they'll say to the proofer, something like could you warm up this section, and that the printers cue to add say more magenta ink to a particular part.

The colors are also sometimes reffered to as "hot" and "cold" Hope I answered your question, sorry to all others for going off topic.

[Anthony1]

Anthony, you should take all your knowledge of video types, quality and connections, and put it together into some sort of online FAQ. Then we could refer people to it whenever they have questions. I'll bet if you wrote something up, Joe would even be happy to host it.


I don't have a problem with that. I can write something up, and then email it as a attachment to whomever. Just PM me the email to send it to. It won't be in HTML form, but I'm sure it could be converted quite easily.

[fergojisan]

It's RGB, plain and simple. Also known as R G B or R-G-B. ;)

Oh, you mods are so sneaky, typing in rgb and actually seeing rgb in the post. How come I can't see the colors though? Oh well, it's probably rgb's fault.

hehe, I never get tired of rgb. LOL

[Jorpho]

I'm not sure if it's the same for t.v, but it art color temprature is used to describe a certain tone or feel of a color. Brighter colors like red, and yellow are reffered to as "warm" and darker muted colors like blue, are called "cold"

the terms are also used in the printing industry, when a designer goes over to check on the printouts usually if any changes to the colors need to be made they'll say to the proofer, something like could you warm up this section, and that the printers cue to add say more magenta ink to a particular part.

All well and good, but is there any method to the numerical values assigned to these "temperatures"?

[slip81]

I'm not sure if it's the same for t.v, but it art color temprature is used to describe a certain tone or feel of a color. Brighter colors like red, and yellow are reffered to as "warm" and darker muted colors like blue, are called "cold"

the terms are also used in the printing industry, when a designer goes over to check on the printouts usually if any changes to the colors need to be made they'll say to the proofer, something like could you warm up this section, and that the printers cue to add say more magenta ink to a particular part.

All well and good, but is there any method to the numerical values assigned to these "temperatures"?

Again with t.v's I'm not sure, but if I were to guess I would say that it works like a normal thermometer, hot colors like red having a higher number and cold colors being lower.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.