Vigilante.......................Sucks

[tholly]

www.therealbobroberts.com isnt working for me and i want to order a G07 cap kit from him...so, if anyone has his email address could you post it

[AlanD]

Been a long while since I ordered anything but try
bob147@bellsouth.net

[tholly]

thanks, hopefully that works

[chadtower]

I have ordered from him three times in the last month alone. Bob is still there.

[tholly]

I have ordered from him three times in the last month alone. Bob is still there.


i just cant get his internet site to work
i dont know, i guess its just me

he emailed me back, i have my cap kit ordered...hopefully it fixes the problem

[chadtower]

What's the problem?

[tholly]

What's the problem?


whenever i type in his web address, i just get an action cancelled error

[SuperGunGuru]

What's the problem?


whenever i type in his web address, i just get an action cancelled error

His site is indeed down. Hopefully it will be back up soon.

[chadtower]

What's the problem?


whenever i type in his web address, i just get an action cancelled error

What is THE MONITOR'S PROBLEM?

:frustrated:

[tholly]

What's the problem?


whenever i type in his web address, i just get an action cancelled error

What is THE MONITOR'S PROBLEM?

:frustrated:


its an electrohome G07 and i cant get the vertical to stop rolling no matter how much i try adjusting the pot, it wont lock

[Arcade Antics]

its an electrohome G07 and i cant get the vertical to stop rolling no matter how much i try adjusting the pot, it wont lock

Could just be a bad pot.

[chadtower]

Yeah, I'd reflow the solder on the pot first, then test the pot itself... then do a cap kit.

Of course, it could probably use a cap kit anyway if it's never had one. We're just warning you that this may not be strictly a cap issue.

[tholly]

its an electrohome G07 and i cant get the vertical to stop rolling no matter how much i try adjusting the pot, it wont lock

Could just be a bad pot.


the pot has been changed (more than once just to make sure the replacement wasnt bad)

[tholly]

Yeah, I'd reflow the solder on the pot first, then test the pot itself... then do a cap kit.

Of course, it could probably use a cap kit anyway if it's never had one. We're just warning you that this may not be strictly a cap issue.


yea, they are all pretty old and crappy lookin caps on it, so, even if it doesnt fix it....it probably wouldnt hurt and, if it doesnt fix the problem, at least it will have some new parts on there for when we find out what the actual problem is

[Arcade Antics]

Out of curiosity, what game is it?

Some games have additional pots on the motherboard (e.g., Mario Bros.) that control the horizontal / vertical position.

[tholly]

it is a Vigilante board....but, i have also tried a P.O.W. board in the cabinet and i get the same rolling

[tholly]

well, i put in a cap kit and changes x302 and x306 and im still having the same problem

i havent changed ic502 which bob roberts said is part HA11244

he wants $10 + $6 shipping for one part

my father found a 10 or 12 pack or something like that for $10

does anyone know where i can get just one of these for less than $16 or does anyone have an extra one that they know is new? i would prefer to spend a little less than $16 for this and i dont need to have more than one of them lying around

[DogP]

Hmm... does your cabinet have a big blue cap in the bottom of it? I've heard of that going bad causing problems like that, but I assume you have a switching power supply? Otherwise, I bought one of those HA11244's from Bob a while ago (I think it was $6 at the time), but I think it was defective anyway, because IIRC, it wouldn't do anything or something when I put that chip in (it's been a while). The problem ended up being fixed by the cap kit anyway.

Anyway, it may be cheaper just to buy a broken G07 chassis on ebay, that way you've got a bunch of parts that you can take from, and they're usually only a couple of $$$.

DogP

[tholly]

I replaced the IC502. The replacement matches up with the numbers of the part already on the board. When I put the replacement in, I get no picture at all. When the original one is in, i get the rolling picture. I thought the replacement was bad, so I returned it for a new one. The same thing happens. When the new part is put in, there is no picture. The next of the tube doesn't light up with the new part. I don't know what to do from here....any advice.

[Arcade Antics]

I replaced the IC502. The replacement matches up with the numbers of the part already on the board. When I put the replacement in, I get no picture at all. When the original one is in, i get the rolling picture. I thought the replacement was bad, so I returned it for a new one. The same thing happens. When the new part is put in, there is no picture. The next of the tube doesn't light up with the new part. I don't know what to do from here....any advice.

Triple check all the connections? Maybe something got bumped, nudged or jostled?

[tholly]

I replaced the IC502. The replacement matches up with the numbers of the part already on the board. When I put the replacement in, I get no picture at all. When the original one is in, i get the rolling picture. I thought the replacement was bad, so I returned it for a new one. The same thing happens. When the new part is put in, there is no picture. The next of the tube doesn't light up with the new part. I don't know what to do from here....any advice.

Triple check all the connections? Maybe something got bumped, nudged or jostled?

me and my dad dont even know where to go from here.
with this new chip as soon as its in there is no picture...put the old one in...rolling picture
we've checked various wires, put a new jamma harness in there, put a cap kit on it, replaced the vertical POT more than once

we are just at a lose for ideas right now

anyone have a good picture of a hooked up G07 with all the wires on it...maybe something in that would give us an idea...i dont know what else to try

[SuperGunGuru]

Have you checked out Randy Fromm's tech page? He has some great flowcharts for troubleshooting monitors.

http://slot-tech-ftp.serveftp.com:8080/technical%20department/monitors/flowcharts/go7%20flowchart.jpg

Sorry if this is old news to ya.

[tholly]

Have you checked out Randy Fromm's tech page? He has some great flowcharts for troubleshooting monitors.

http://slot-tech-ftp.serveftp.com:8080/technical%20department/monitors/flowcharts/go7%20flowchart.jpg

Sorry if this is old news to ya.


yup old news...thanks anyways

[DogP]

O_o... weird... I had the exact same problem when I replaced mine... is yours the CFO or CBO model? If you PM me your addy, I'll mail you my "bad" chip, and I'll pull one off one of my scrap G07 chassis'... I had the same problem with my CFO, but the cap kit ended up fixing it.

DogP

[tholly]

O_o... weird... I had the exact same problem when I replaced mine... is yours the CFO or CBO model? If you PM me your addy, I'll mail you my "bad" chip, and I'll pull one off one of my scrap G07 chassis'... I had the same problem with my CFO, but the cap kit ended up fixing it.

DogP

im at school...my dads gonna check and see if he can find out which model it is


IC502 - I'm assuming you put a socket in for it, and you're not unsoldering/soldering the chips each time? If so, then the replacement chip is not the exact replacement. Beyond that, the usual causes for rolling pics is either bad caps (which you replaced) or a wiring problem. Check (and even re-flow) the solder joints for the signal input pins, and make sure the wiring (negative sync, positive sync, or composite) matches what the game board is putting out.

a socket was used....so i dont know why when the new chip was put in, the monitor wouldn't even light up, let alone roll

im thinking its something with the wiring and us not doing something right
there is that 3 pin connector thing on the board about the RGB inputs

there is a black wire and a white wire coming from it....any idea what pin those should be placed on....theres 3 pins and 2 wires

its a Vigilante board, but also rolls with a P.O.W. board

[tholly]

O_o... weird... I had the exact same problem when I replaced mine... is yours the CFO or CBO model? If you PM me your addy, I'll mail you my "bad" chip, and I'll pull one off one of my scrap G07 chassis'... I had the same problem with my CFO, but the cap kit ended up fixing it.

DogP

he checked....its a CBO

[DogP]

I agree... you'd think if the replacement chip doesn't work in the monitor, that the chip isn't the same... but it's the exact same part number, and I ordered it from Bob Roberts and he said that it was for the G07... that's why I assumed that the chip was just bad. I don't see why there'd be multiple versions of the same model chip, and not have them compatible with each other.

Anyway, I've got a few extra G07 CBO parts chassis' laying around (broken boards, missing width coil, etc), I can pull one of those chips and mail it to you, and hopefully that'll fix the problem. If it doesn'tt, of course I'd appreciate you sending it back in case I ever need it in the future though.

DogP

[tholly]

a socket was used....so i dont know why when the new chip was put in, the monitor wouldn't even light up, let alone roll

It can't be the same chip then ;)


the numbers matched, so i dunno


im thinking its something with the wiring and us not doing something right there is that 3 pin connector thing on the board about the warm chocolate puddin' inputs


"warm chocolate puddin' inputs"? :?

the red green and blue wires....i hate this stupid script that switches R - G - B to warm chocolate puddin'


there is a black wire and a white wire coming from it....any idea what pin those should be placed on....theres 3 pins and 2 wires


There should be 2 connectors on the monitor - a 6-pin and a 3-pin.

1- R
2- G
3- B
4- ground
5- Hsync +
6- Vsync +

7- ground
8- Hsync -
9- Hsync -

Generally the ground wire is black and the (composite) sync is white. If the game uses separate horizontal and vertical sync signals, there will be 2 wires (the other usually being yellow). For composite sync, you need to put the white on both pins 5 + 6 OR pins 8 + 9. Now, some monitors will recognize the composite sync signal if it's only on one pin (either 5 or 9), so that gives you 4 different ways to wire composite :) If the sync wiring is way off, you usually get a diagonally-scrolling picture.

The ground pins are common. In other words, you'd only need to put the black wire on either pins 4 or 7


i have to have my dad check the wires again


its a Vigilante board, but also rolls with a P.O.W. board


Both are JAMMA boards, so the sync output is composite

well, then thats the output i need

[SuperGunGuru]

I had a snyc related issue when I wired up my DK. I run it with JAMMA using an adaptor. My monitor uses 2 sync inputs while JAMMA uses composite. All I had to do was connect the 2 sync wires from the monitor together so they both go to the single composite sync wire on the jamma harness.

[tholly]

1- R
2- G
3- B
4- ground
5- Hsync +
6- Vsync +

7- ground
8- Hsync -
9- Hsync -


on my machine i have # 1, 2, & 3 hooked up with R G & B respectively
#4, 5, & 6 have no wires on them

#7 has a black ground on it, 8 has a white sync wire on it and 9 doesn't have anything

....so by what others have said, it looks like i need another wire somewhere on the monitor and have that wire spliced into the #13 Sync wire on the jamma harness

[DogP]

You shouldn't have to, but I have seen people jumper a wire between pins 8 and 9 when you're running a negative composite sync. I know that messes up some models (causes sync problems), but I've never seen one that has actually needed it... you may want to try that just in case though.

DogP

[tholly]

You shouldn't have to, but I have seen people jumper a wire between pins 8 and 9 when you're running a negative composite sync. I know that messes up some models (causes sync problems), but I've never seen one that has actually needed it... you may want to try that just in case though.

DogP


so, with the wiring config. that i listed that i have, what would you recommend i do....does the wiring need any change, or is the only thing that might work be that chip that you are sending to me

[Peale]

Why IS there a script that changes R G B to 'warm chocolate pudding?'

RGB

[DogP]

so, with the wiring config. that i listed that i have, what would you recommend i do....does the wiring need any change, or is the only thing that might work be that chip that you are sending to me

Well, you may want to try leaving the wire going into pin 8, but then jumpering a wire between 8 and 9, I don't know if there's any reason that people do this, or if it's just because they think since composite has V and H syncs, then they need to tie them both to the composite. I've never seen it help though, so I wouldn't hold any hopes for it fixing your problem.

DogP

[tholly]

well, i gave my dad a call....i told him to try jumpering 8 and 9

he said okay and that he would let me know

well, about 10 minutes later i got a call telling me that he temporarily jumpered it until he could do something permanent, BUT.....it STOPPED rolling


so, now that that problem is fixed, i have to rewire the controls and clean them up and rewire the second coin slot on the coin door so i can use quarters to credit it with either slot and then it will finally be working

hopefully when i go home this weekend ill have some free time to get it up to 100% again


thanks for all the help

[DogP]

Sweet! Congrats! I didn't get a chance to pull that chip yet anyway, so I'm glad that fixed it :) .

DogP

[tholly]

well, i got home for the weekend and tried the game

its 100% now which is great

this is the first time i have ever seen it completely working (take into consideration that i got it end of august 2004)


thanks for all the help guys

[tholly]

...and the other night i credited the game a bunch of times and went at it.....and i have to say its terribly unfair...i probably "spent" $25-50 to beat the 5 levels....its just a cheap game

i wish after all that work fixing the game that it would actually be good

oh wel

maybe at the next Super Auctions I go to ill get something better

i wanted 5 arcade machines by 2005 anyway, so i need to get at least 1 more

[ClubNinja]

I'm not sure I understand why you bought the game then, if you didn't already know something about it. Or at least had played it before. Was it just because it was a cheap cabinet?

[tholly]

I'm not sure I understand why you bought the game then, if you didn't already know something about it. Or at least had played it before. Was it just because it was a cheap cabinet?



basically.....$60 for a really nice condition cabinet.....plus the control panel looks awesome

[DogP]

HAHAH! Yeah, I could have told you that Vigilante sucks... that was my first game too (I got mine for free), but it just isn't fun. Now I'm over 30 games and having some fun :) . At least Vigilante is JAMMA, so you can pop a few other PCBs in there.

DogP

[tholly]

HAHAH! Yeah, I could have told you that Vigilante sucks... that was my first game too (I got mine for free), but it just isn't fun. Now I'm over 30 games and having some fun :) . At least Vigilante is JAMMA, so you can pop a few other PCBs in there.

DogP


yea, thank god its not the only cab i have or i would hate arcade games

i could throw my p.o.w. board in and give that a shot next time im home

my dad likes playing vigilante though (i guess only have 2 buttons is a plus) so its alright i guess

[Arcade Antics]

HAHAH! Yeah, I could have told you that Vigilante sucks... that was my first game too (I got mine for free), but it just isn't fun. Now I'm over 30 games and having some fun :) . At least Vigilante is JAMMA, so you can pop a few other PCBs in there.

DogP


yea, thank god its not the only cab i have or i would hate arcade games

i could throw my p.o.w. board in and give that a shot next time im home

my dad likes playing vigilante though (i guess only have 2 buttons is a plus) so its alright i guess

"Hey come on!" (that's what the big dude is yelling at the end of round 1) LOL

Anyhoo, yeah, Vigilante isn't the greatest, but sorry to say it's WAY better than POW. ;)

I bought my Vigilante PCB several years ago for like $12. I knew the game was weak going in though, it's one of those bad games I like for some odd reason. Musta been the nunchucks.

POW, on the other hand, I passed on for $10.

The good news is that there are tons of other JAMMA games that you can throw in there that you'll love, and buying that cab was still a great deal.

[tholly]

HAHAH! Yeah, I could have told you that Vigilante sucks... that was my first game too (I got mine for free), but it just isn't fun. Now I'm over 30 games and having some fun :) . At least Vigilante is JAMMA, so you can pop a few other PCBs in there.

DogP


yea, thank god its not the only cab i have or i would hate arcade games

i could throw my p.o.w. board in and give that a shot next time im home

my dad likes playing vigilante though (i guess only have 2 buttons is a plus) so its alright i guess

"Hey come on!" (that's what the big dude is yelling at the end of round 1) LOL

Anyhoo, yeah, Vigilante isn't the greatest, but sorry to say it's WAY better than POW. ;)

I bought my Vigilante PCB several years ago for like $12. I knew the game was weak going in though, it's one of those bad games I like for some odd reason. Musta been the nunchucks.

POW, on the other hand, I passed on for $10.

The good news is that there are tons of other JAMMA games that you can throw in there that you'll love, and buying that cab was still a great deal.


thats shitty to hear about POW...well, i guess for the $15 shipped i paid for it, its worth at least playing through

its always nice to have another cab, no matter how bad the game is i guess

when i have more money (this O^2 collection minus the last 2 i need ran me pretty dry on funds) ill have to look into getting some better jamma boards to toss in there

[Vigilante]

HEY NOW!! oh, this forum is about the video game... not my sexual preferences....

Carry On.... :/

[Arqueologia_Digital]

HEY NOW!! oh, this forum is about the video game... not my sexual preferences....

Carry On.... :/
Right, right. But Vigilante sucks... :D