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howdoin
01-13-2005, 10:41 AM
I read some conflicting information as to wether or not the PAC-S10 can read the Japanese Mega-Cds : the DP guide says it cannot but some other sites says it can (nekofan.free.fr)

Can anyone confirm this for me : Can the PAC-S10 (US version) play both US/Jap cartdridges and US Sega CDs/ Jp. Mega Cds.

howdoin
01-13-2005, 07:44 PM
bump

vincewy
01-13-2005, 09:09 PM
The answer is NO, the same compatibility issues will apply when you put Japanese Sega CD games on US Sega CD, there're a few early SCD titles that will work on either system.

If you want to play Japanese SCD games, get PAC-S1, which is not hard to find at all.

For those curious about TurboGrafx, all CD games will work on either PAC-N1 or PAC-N10 (except ACD games), hucards games don't, however.

sisko
01-13-2005, 09:13 PM
But I'm fairly sure it will play Japanese Mega LDs. Go figure.

soniko_karuto
01-13-2005, 11:11 PM
LD's? this thing had laserdiscs?

digitalpress
01-13-2005, 11:27 PM
LD's? this thing had laserdiscs?

How odd! Especially since the Laseractive is a laser disc player.

Check out the Laseractive section, particularly info on the console itself. No need to be befuddled about such basic information when it's right at your fingertips.

soniko_karuto
01-13-2005, 11:42 PM
LD's? this thing had laserdiscs?

How odd! Especially since the Laseractive is a laser disc player.

Check out the Laseractive section, particularly info on the console itself. No need to be befuddled about such basic information when it's right at your fingertips.

hehe, sorry, but i didn't even knew there was a laserdisc/game hybrid.

vincewy
01-14-2005, 12:39 PM
But I'm fairly sure it will play Japanese Mega LDs. Go figure.

OK, I'll go over compatibility issues:

LD format-

MegaLD and LD-Rom2 games are all universally compatible, you can play any MegaLD/LD-Rom games on either PAC-S1/PAC-N1 (or PAC-LD1) or PAC-S10/PAC-N10 (10s are US modules), you can not, however, play any MegaLD game(s) on modules with LD-Rom2 designations, and vice versa.

PC-E/Turbo CD/SCD games-

You can play those games on any module with LD-Rom2 designation, namely PAC-N1, PAC-N10, and PAC-LD1, with exceptions of a few Japanese CD/SCD games that will not work on US TurboGrafx module PAC-N10, such as Altered Beast, same incompatibility issues as regular US Duo system.

PC-E ACD games-

One of the most confusing,

For PAC-N1, please use Arcade Duo card, Arcade Pro (orange card) will jam the module, I've done this and it was a bitch to take it off (we had to take the module apart)

PAC-LD1, same with Arcade Duo, however, 8 ACD games will not work on this thing for some reason, namely SNK fighters, I know, Pioneer was very pissed when they found out about it, I'll explain NEC's LP1 and LD1 a little bit later.

PAC-N10- The TurboGrafx module will need kisado convertor and Arcade Card Duo to play all the games.


TurboGrafx hucard games-

Can only play with PAC-N10


PC-E Hucard games-

PAC-N1 and PAC-LD1, all will work, for PAC-N10, Kisado convertor is required.


MegaCD and MegaDrive games-

You can only play those on PAC-S1, a few early Sega CD games will play on it, but most will not, a few European LaserActive owners reported a good chunk of Euro MegaCD and MegaDrive games will work on Japanese MegaDrive PAC-S1. An interesting note, far more PAL MegaDrive/MegaCD games work on PAC-S1, but not PAC-S10 (Genesis module), so I recommend owners in Europe get Japanese Sega module PAC-S1. (MegaDrive module)


SegaCD and Genesis games-

Sega had this locked out early so you'll need PAC-S10 to play at least most games, very few games will work on PAC-S1.


Besides Pioneer, NEC also made their own LaserActive system, LP1, the main deck, and PAC-LD1, the PC-Engine module, these are identical clones to Pioneer's own CLD-A100 and PAC-N1, you can even exchange the modules with Pioneer's and they'll work, there was one on eBay recently

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8157642456

As I mentioned earlier, 8 ACD games will not work on this thing, if you want to play all ACD games, get Pioneer's PAC-N1. LaserActive system has a lot of accessories with it, the only one I do not have is the NEC LD1 and LP1, the rest are all here (http://www.neo-geo.com/gallery/collections/vincewy/Pic4.jpg)

One last thing, the issue of compatibility is determined by the module you put in, not where the main deck is made, if you live in US, try to get US main deck CLD-A100 since this has higher voltage 120V, while Jp CLD-A100 only takes 100V. A main deck, let it be US CLD-A100, Jp CLD-A100, or NEC's LD1 will take any moduel out there.

vincewy
01-14-2005, 12:39 PM
But I'm fairly sure it will play Japanese Mega LDs. Go figure.

OK, I'll go over compatibility issues:

LD format-

MegaLD and LD-Rom2 games are all universally compatible, you can play any MegaLD/LD-Rom games on either PAC-S1/PAC-N1 (or PAC-LD1) or PAC-S10/PAC-N10 (10s are US modules), you can not, however, play any MegaLD game(s) on modules with LD-Rom2 designations, and vice versa.

PC-E/Turbo CD/SCD games-

You can play those games on any module with LD-Rom2 designation, namely PAC-N1, PAC-N10, and PAC-LD1, with exceptions of a few Japanese CD/SCD games that will not work on US TurboGrafx module PAC-N10, such as Altered Beast, same incompatibility issues as regular US Duo system.

PC-E ACD games-

One of the most confusing,

For PAC-N1, please use Arcade Duo card, Arcade Pro (orange card) will jam the module, I've done this and it was a bitch to take it off (we had to take the module apart)

PAC-LD1, same with Arcade Duo, however, 8 ACD games will not work on this thing for some reason, namely SNK fighters, I know, Pioneer was very pissed when they found out about it, I'll explain NEC's LP1 and LD1 a little bit later.

PAC-N10- The TurboGrafx module will need kisado convertor and Arcade Card Duo to play all the games.


TurboGrafx hucard games-

Can only play with PAC-N10


PC-E Hucard games-

PAC-N1 and PAC-LD1, all will work, for PAC-N10, Kisado convertor is required.


MegaCD and MegaDrive games-

You can only play those on PAC-S1, a few early Sega CD games will play on it, but most will not, a few European LaserActive owners reported a good chunk of Euro MegaCD and MegaDrive games will work on Japanese MegaDrive PAC-S1. An interesting note, far more PAL MegaDrive/MegaCD games work on PAC-S1, but not PAC-S10 (Genesis module), so I recommend owners in Europe get Japanese Sega module PAC-S1. (MegaDrive module)


SegaCD and Genesis games-

Sega had this locked out early so you'll need PAC-S10 to play at least most games, very few games will work on PAC-S1.


Besides Pioneer, NEC also made their own LaserActive system, LP1, the main deck, and PAC-LD1, the PC-Engine module, these are identical clones to Pioneer's own CLD-A100 and PAC-N1, you can even exchange the modules with Pioneer's and they'll work, there was one on eBay recently

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8157642456

As I mentioned earlier, 8 ACD games will not work on this thing, if you want to play all ACD games, get Pioneer's PAC-N1. LaserActive system has a lot of accessories with it, the only one I do not have is the NEC LD1 and LP1, the rest are all here (http://www.neo-geo.com/gallery/collections/vincewy/Pic4.jpg)

One last thing, the issue of compatibility is determined by the module you put in, not where the main deck is made, if you live in US, try to get US main deck CLD-A100 since this has higher voltage 120V, while Jp CLD-A100 only takes 100V. A main deck, let it be US CLD-A100, Jp CLD-A100, or NEC's LD1 will take any moduel out there.

rbudrick
01-14-2005, 02:18 PM
Man, I'd hate to have to study for that test! LOL That's very thorough, vincewy. Nicely worded!

For all the Turbo and Genesis compatibility questions that pop on the board every now and then, this thread oughta be a sticky in the import section! ;)

-Rob