Dunno if I should get a SNES or not

[Steven]

I kinda want one, and there's one available at Game Crazy, but a part of me is like "save all that money and use it on something else."

I duno. I guess I'm just asking for stories and/or a list of your favorite SNES games. If I get one I'm sure I'd buy a lot of games but I already have a lot of (largely) unplayed video games sitting around the house that "I swear one day I'll get to."

Sure it'd be nice to own games like Super Mario World, Mario All-Stars, Ken Griffey Baseball, Contra III, Super Metroid and whatnot, but will I have time to play these games? I'm not sure.

I was standing there pondering the thought today, and I just couldn't bring myself to buying a SNES for $29.99

BTW, what is the "average going" price of a Super Nintendo?

[Solar77]

Just buy the damn thing. You know you want to.

[bunbunz23]

It is probably my favorite system of all time so you will not go wrong if you buy it

[Lemmy Kilmister]

I just couldn't bring myself to buying a SNES for $29.99

There's one at my local flea market I could maybe buy for you. The guy behind the booth only really sells his stuff for like 5 bucks top.

[tuxedojoe]

The SNES is hailed by many as the greatest system ever. I do not know how valid this statement is, however it is one fine piece of gaming machinery. There are many great games for it and I feel, as a gamer, you will truly be able to appreciate them. So, I say you should definitely buy it.

$30 sounds rather reasonable if it included all hookups, a controller, and shows no signs of aging (yellowing, dents, etc).

[whoisKeel]

pros: excellent colors, great software (both 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party), cheap games (not very many high-priced games that are worth playing imo), varied and large library, games are very available in the wild.

cons: slow - freaking - down - central...like half the games exhibit at least some slowdown, plenty of crap games (but this is the case with all large libraries), games tend to be overpriced ($15 for super mario world at a game shop anyone?) (i know this seems contradictory, but snes has both cheap games and over-priced ones at the same time...due to it's popularity), censorship.

get it :) $30 is reasonable, but you could hit up the bay, pay $40 and get some starter games with it instead.

[kainemaxwell]

You definitly won't be disappointed if you got it.

[max 330 mega]

i bought one about 6 months ago, hated the damn thing, the slowdown pissed me off, but i was already spoiled by the neo geo, so i guess that could have something to do with it. only games i enjoyed for it were clayfighters tournament, super mario world, and bust a move.

[Aussie2B]

The SNES has more good games than you can shake a stick at, man. Get one already. :P Even if you don't have time for it right away, I'm sure you can make enough time eventually to get your money's worth out of it with at least one game.

[Mattiekrome]

what kind of condition is said SNES to be in?

[Push Upstairs]

3 Words:

Turtles in Time

Best home conversion of a Turtles game ever.

[sabre2922]

If u have a computer with at least a pentium 2 processor its sooo much easier to just get an emulator the Zsnes is the best in my opinion.
heck u could probably get an old pentium 2 PC for about the same price as the SNES.
after I found the wonderful world of emulation I havent bought one cart game or system.
Now I only buy Dreamcast or up.
its just to easy to download an old 8-bit or 16-bit game and then erase it after a couple days if u want or keep it if u have an old copy in the closet.
Now they even have good N64 emulators.
but if u are a collector I would say go ahead and get it since I have seen very few good Snes systems in my area.

[max 330 mega]

If u have a computer with at least a pentium 2 processor its sooo much easier to just get an emulator the Zsnes is the best in my opinion.
heck u could probably get an old pentium 2 PC for about the same price as the SNES.
after I found the wonderful world of emulation I havent bought one cart game or system.
Now I only buy Dreamcast or up.
its just to easy to download an old 8-bit or 16-bit game and then erase it after a couple days if u want or keep it if u have an old copy in the closet.
Now they even have good N64 emulators.
but if u are a collector I would say go ahead and get it since I have seen very few good Snes systems in my area.
OMFG DOOD!!! YOU GOT T3H ROMZ!!?? YOU ARE DA BOMB!!! W00T!

[Iron Draggon]

Oh come on now, Steven, you know you want Tetris 2! I've never played it yet myself, but it's certainly on my list! There's tons of great puzzlers for the SNES that were never released on any other consoles, so if you're into other puzzle games besides Tetris, there's alot to choose from. I didn't get my SNES until DKC came out, but I had always wanted one before then. And when I finally got it and saw how great all the games were for it, I was wondering why the heck I waited so long to get one. It's a great system! Just buy it, and quit talking yourself out of it, you'll be totally glad you did!

[sabre2922]

hey max the original copys ARE THE ROMS my friend LOL
anyway most of the old 8-bit stuff is no longer copyrighted righted alongside the old turbographix and the majority of the Genesis stuff.
The only ones who may care if u have a rom downloaded to your computer might be Nintendo since they are the only ones who ever really had any stance on emulation.
Sega never really cared.
Anyway do you really think that Atari or whatever company that holds the copyright to the name Atari (infogrames or whoever the hell it is) really cares if someone has a Jaguar emulator and all the games to play on said emulator?
Like they are going to hunt u down becuase your playing some old games on an obsolete unsuccesful system :roll: cmon
now im sure it would be a different story if you were copying PS2 or Xbox games and then selling them or some shit like that but playing old 10-25 year old games on your computer is a different story.

[MegaDrive20XX]

hey max the original copys ARE THE ROMS my friend LOL
anyway most of the old 8-bit stuff is no longer copyrighted righted alongside the old turbographix and the majority of the Genesis stuff.
The only ones who may care if u have a rom downloaded to your computer might be Nintendo since they are the only ones who ever really had any stance on emulation.
Sega never really cared.

Oh Sega does...there's a few roms out there banned by the ISDA and especially Sega CD ISO's

Yet not as many as SNES...and Nintendo going on a rampage stopping every single fami-clone being sold in American malls

[sabre2922]

thats right super i agree with you totally.
For the simple fact is that once u get into CD games especially those made within the last 10 years or so many ARE still copyrighted. but if u go to the right sites they will notify you wich are still protected by the ISDA and wich are not ;)
anway CD or especially DVDs take waaaay to long to download unless you have broadband and even then I wouldnt bother.
thats why I collect DC to Xbox.
because it will be a loong time before you will have simple easy to use emulators for the Gamecube,PS2 or Xbox if ever.

[Aussie2B]

now im sure it would be a different story if you were copying PS2 or Xbox games and then selling them or some shit like that but playing old 10-25 year old games on your computer is a different story.

What about when said PS2 and XBox games are compilations of those 10-25 year old games on your computer?

[sabre2922]

Aussie2B has a very valid question heres a quick if not thorough explanation: thats a perfect example why Nintendo still has all the old Mario games copyrighted and are still protected by the ISDA.
but even if a company does release a compilation of some sort it doesnt always mean that they took the time or effort to update the copyrights and many games that are on compilations today are not protected by the ISDA even though the names and trademarks are still owned by whatever company purchased them.

[EricRyan34]

What kind of a question is this?? ahhhh!

[Ed Oscuro]

hey max the original copys ARE THE ROMS my friend LOL
anyway most of the old 8-bit stuff is no longer copyrighted righted alongside the old turbographix and the majority of the Genesis stuff.
RITE ON LAWYER DOOD!

(answer: you're wrong about the copyright stuff. I laughed at the "ARE THE ROMS" bit though LOL )

[Jorpho]

anyway most of the old 8-bit stuff is no longer copyrighted righted alongside the old turbographix and the majority of the Genesis stuff.
The only ones who may care if u have a rom downloaded to your computer might be Nintendo since they are the only ones who ever really had any stance on emulation.
Sega never really cared.

Dude, copyrights last for seventy years. And if nothing else, I believe it was Sega who moved to stop the creation of a p2p ROM distribution service a few years ago.

But this is a discussion for another thread, probably. I would actually agree that if you have no idea if you are going to use an SNES very much, use an emulator for a while to help make up your mind.

[max 330 mega]

hey max the original copys ARE THE ROMS my friend LOL
anyway most of the old 8-bit stuff is no longer copyrighted righted alongside the old turbographix and the majority of the Genesis stuff.
The only ones who may care if u have a rom downloaded to your computer might be Nintendo since they are the only ones who ever really had any stance on emulation.
Sega never really cared.
Anyway do you really think that Atari or whatever company that holds the copyright to the name Atari (infogrames or whoever the hell it is) really cares if someone has a Jaguar emulator and all the games to play on said emulator?
Like they are going to hunt u down becuase your playing some old games on an obsolete unsuccesful system :roll: cmon
now im sure it would be a different story if you were copying PS2 or Xbox games and then selling them or some shit like that but playing old 10-25 year old games on your computer is a different story.
hey guess what?? your a cheap skate, i dont care if the companies care or not, though i would love to see an atari jaguar hit team come busting into your house screaming "YOU GOT TEH ROMZ! WHERE ARE THEY!?"
you wanna play the games?? buy the damn systems and cartridges like everyone else,
oh and also, i spit on you for playing neo games on emu, i hope your computer breaks, so that your library of 1000's of games, quickly becomes something like 50, because thats probably about how many REAL titles you own.

[squirrelnut]

anyway most of the old 8-bit stuff is no longer copyrighted righted alongside the old turbographix and the majority of the Genesis stuff.


Complete and utter bullshit. Okay how come copy rights on movies last 75-100 years but video games only last about 10 accoring to you?

Secondly, why come here and insult everyones passion? 90% of the people on here are part gamers part collectors. To say "Hey just use emulation" is like going on a music website and saying "Stop using lossess audio codecs and just use midis". You don't get the full effect on emulation. What pride is there in downloading bubble bath babes? Or saying you own every single NES games... on rom.


And to answer the question 30 bucks sounds kinda high. Personally I'd never pay more then 20 for one but if it's got all the hook ups and a controler and is in mint condition 30 sounds great.

[Raedon]

Go to a flea market and get a Snes, ps1, and some games for $20 total.

[Raedon]

If u have a computer with at least a pentium 2 processor its sooo much easier to just get an emulator the Zsnes is the best in my opinion.
heck u could probably get an old pentium 2 PC for about the same price as the SNES.


You are in the wrong place fruit cake.

[sabre2922]

LOl whats everyones freaking problem here?
copyrights do run out. some last for 100 years some have to be reinstated every 10 years depends on the product and how long the patent pends.
and by the way if anyone has noticed digital press does have emulators on their site for a reason.
and that reason is it makes old games THAT ARE NO LONGER COPYRIGHTED OR NEVER HAVE BEEN easily accessible to those who may have never experienced them.
Im not full of shit man I know what I speak of.
just becuase this may be over a few of your heads RADEON dont be hatin those in the know my man.
anyway I was under the impression that this board was beyond useless flaming :roll: but Im proven wrong yet again.
anytime ANYONE freakin mentions emulation there always have to be a few on this board to go off the deap end and start flaming a subject that they just simpy dont understand or have no knowledge of.
So just chill my friends damn!
why get so worked up over an issue that the majority of game companies care nothing about especially when it comes to games that have been out of print for 10-30 years?
is it something personal or what? I mean did YOU make these freakin games Raedon? are YOU losing profit from someone enjoying a game that they can no longer find? or even play because the old arcade cabinets are all now defunct?
take it easy my man and just enjoy the board and stop lookin for a fight :)

[max 330 mega]

LOl whats everyones freaking problem here?
copyrights do run out. some last for 100 years some have to be reinstated every 10 years depends on the product and how long the patent pends.
and by the way if anyone has noticed digital press does have emulators on their site for a reason.
and that reason is it makes old games THAT ARE NO LONGER COPYRIGHTED OR NEVER HAVE BEEN easily accessible to those who may have never experienced them.
Im not full of shit man I know what I speak of.
just becuase this may be over a few of your heads RADEON dont be hatin those in the know my man.
anyway I was under the impression that this board was beyond useless flaming :roll: but Im proven wrong yet again.
anytime ANYONE freakin mentions emulation there always have to be a few on this board to go off the deap end and start flaming a subject that they just simpy dont understand or have no knowledge of.
So just chill my friends damn!
why get so worked up over an issue that the majority of game companies care nothing about especially when it comes to games that have been out of print for 10-30 years?
is it something personal or what? I mean did YOU make these freakin games Raedon? are YOU losing profit from someone enjoying a game that they can no longer find? or even play because the old arcade cabinets are all now defunct?
take it easy my man and just enjoy the board and stop lookin for a fight :)
Hey, my $250 copy of sonic wings 3 MVS just called, it told me to tell you to get its god damn rom off your computer, get a job and buy the real thing.

like stated before, i dont care one way or another if the companies care, because I know I care, because I save all my money to buy the damn games, not play them on my freaking computer! You do not deserve to play the games if you are too worthless to buy the real thing.

[Jorpho]

Go to a flea market and get a Snes, ps1, and some games for $20 total.

I suppose a SNES is pretty durable (provided the plastic hasn't turned yellow), but wouldn't a flea market PS1 have rather dubious functionality?

[Predatorxs]

Pick up a snes!, so many good games to choose from.. Also Copyrights don't die.. which ever asshole said that needs to get the fu*k outta here. Copyright isn't just alittle thing, that goes away.. :/

I was just happy go lucky today.. then i read that! :angry: At least if you sounded like you knew what you were talkin about people might listen!

A few things of the top of my head, that alot of people might know already, the 70 years that got mentioned starts after the end or death of a company / person.

So i'm 27 now, say i die at 70, then the copyright is still in my name for another 70 years (over 113 years to go), also if it's a company copyright, or say there is more than one person involved, it can be between 90 and 120 years after the company or owner has finished/died.

And to cover your ass even more you can hand over your copyright to a someone else.

So in 99% of copyright cases, the copyright does NOT die... O_O

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[Raedon]

Go to a flea market and get a Snes, ps1, and some games for $20 total.

I suppose a SNES is pretty durable (provided the plastic hasn't turned yellow), but wouldn't a flea market PS1 have rather dubious functionality?

I assume so considering a new one had the same "dubious functionality" :D but Last time I went to a Flea PS1's we $10 and I've seen them for $5 without anything but the console.

[demented-yoshi]

I'd recommend you buy it but not for that price I got mine for 30 canadian about 2-3 years ago with 5 games and 2 controllers and our dollar was like 70 cents or something then.

I'd say get it for cheaper don't donwload the games on roms its just not the same. My friend had tons of games on his computer but the controls suck ass who wants to play super mario world with a keyboard? not I.

[sabre2922]

LOL max you take things waaaay to personal my man LOL LOL chill no harm done dude.

[classicb]

Since when does someone consider buying a SNES. I understand wondering about the Saturn and TG-16. I thought the SNES was standard issue when you joined Digital Press. I might be wrong but I thought when I signed up in small print it said: In order to join this site you must own a Atari 2600, NES, SNES, and Genesis. Many other systems are optional.

Also why do you guys care if someone has a computer full of Roms. I couldn't care less. I personally love collecting and enjoy a shlef full of games. I also think its funny when people get more mad and upset about roms on a computer but don't really care if people put Roms on GBA flashcarts or on their Ngage. If I ever get an Ngage I will probably put roms on it :) but then again I'll probably own most of the games I put on it.

[Damion]

Not to Fuel Flames to the fire. But Honestly I have most anything ROM/ISO (except for the current generation consoles) and I own most of the consoles (Still working on most of the games) and even though I have a neogeo that NEEEDS a S-video and bios mod upgrade BADLY I still play it over the emulator and pay astronmical prices for the games. As well as for al my other consoles.

Why?

Because there is nothing like the real thing....nothing.

I have a friend that just can't understand this too. But he isn't IMO a true gamer or game-phile like I am.

Btw can you guys really get a Snes For cheaper then thirty? man I'll take one at twenty if someone wants to sell one to me ;)

[Aussie2B]

Since when does someone consider buying a SNES. I understand wondering about the Saturn and TG-16. I thought the SNES was standard issue when you joined Digital Press. I might be wrong but I thought when I signed up in small print it said: In order to join this site you must own a Atari 2600, NES, SNES, and Genesis. Many other systems are optional.

Uh oh, do I gotta leave? I don't have any Atari system, and I've never had one before either. :P

[classicb]

Since when does someone consider buying a SNES. I understand wondering about the Saturn and TG-16. I thought the SNES was standard issue when you joined Digital Press. I might be wrong but I thought when I signed up in small print it said: In order to join this site you must own a Atari 2600, NES, SNES, and Genesis. Many other systems are optional.

Uh oh, do I gotta leave? I don't have any Atari system, and I've never had one before either. :P

shhh don't tell anyone but I don't have one either.

[max 330 mega]

Since when does someone consider buying a SNES. I understand wondering about the Saturn and TG-16. I thought the SNES was standard issue when you joined Digital Press. I might be wrong but I thought when I signed up in small print it said: In order to join this site you must own a Atari 2600, NES, SNES, and Genesis. Many other systems are optional.

Uh oh, do I gotta leave? I don't have any Atari system, and I've never had one before either. :P

shhh don't tell anyone but I don't have one either.
I bought one, then in less than a month I was trying my hardest to get the thing out of my house! Me no likey yoo atari!

[classicb]

I bought one, then in less than a month I was trying my hardest to get the thing out of my house! Me no likey yoo atari!

well you can always play the roms on your computer LOL

[anagrama]

I'm a 100% dyed-in-the-wool Sega fan, but even I believe that anyone with even half a passing interest in old videogames should certainly own a SNES. Though you can probably get one cheaper than $30.

[slip81]

Guys, is it okay if I play translated RPG ROMZ on my comp cause I can't read Japanese? LOL

Anyway go for the SNES. If you're into platformers and especially RPGs, it has some of the best available, Secret of Evermore anyone? $30.00 is also a decent price.

[Iron Draggon]

SHEESH to the ROM thing already! Personally, I'm just glad that there's still alot of people going to all the trouble of dumping, cataloguing, and archiving old ROMS, if for no other reason that the preservation of our digital gaming history. Too many people have the attitude that if it's more than 6 months old, it's no longer relevant, and it should be forgotten. Nay I say! I bust my ass, and I pay thousands of dollars of my hard earned money to buy originals every year, but if somebody else has just as much of a passion for all those games as I do, and they don't have the financial means to collect them all the same way that I do, then I don't hold it against them! Let all the poor guys have their fun too, they aren't really hurting anyone! If all the game manufactureres were really that worried about collecting all the money that they're entitled to for all those old games, then they should be re-issuing all those old games, and supplying the demand for them all themselves! But they're not doing that, and until they do start doing that, then I have no sympathy for them and all of their alleged lost revenues that they're losing! They're the ones who are throwing away the opportunity to cash in on emulation, and the pirates are the only ones who understand the concept! Gamephiles are just like audiophiles, if we had a 100% legal service that we could subscribe to which would allow us to download ROMS as cheaply as Ipod users can subscribe to Itunes and download songs, then of course the vast majority of us would gladly subscribe to it and pay a few bucks per ROM! So why isn't anyone trying to get that message through to the industry yet?

[RockyRaccoon]

Hey, my $250 copy of sonic wings 3 MVS just called, it told me to tell you to get its god damn rom off your computer, get a job and buy the real thing.

like stated before, i dont care one way or another if the companies care, because I know I care, because I save all my money to buy the damn games, not play them on my freaking computer! You do not deserve to play the games if you are too worthless to buy the real thing.


This Post put the following Picture in my head. XD it IS NOT MEANT to make fun of you man..... but I just found the Personification funny. XD

http://www.sonicverseteam.com/rocky/DAMNROMS.gif

Enjoy it for what it's intended to be. :/.

[Raedon]

Just to clarify.


I wasn't talking about roms and legal issues. This is a sight about collecting history and nostalgia of our gaming past. Anyone who comes in here and says, "I can EMU and ROM **** systems so why own them?!?!?" gets the fruit cake.

[max 330 mega]

Hey, my $250 copy of sonic wings 3 MVS just called, it told me to tell you to get its god damn rom off your computer, get a job and buy the real thing.

like stated before, i dont care one way or another if the companies care, because I know I care, because I save all my money to buy the damn games, not play them on my freaking computer! You do not deserve to play the games if you are too worthless to buy the real thing.


This Post put the following Picture in my head. XD it IS NOT MEANT to make fun of you man..... but I just found the Personification funny. XD

http://www.sonicverseteam.com/rocky/DAMNROMS.gif

Enjoy it for what it's intended to be. :/.
omg i love you man, that was awesome!
could somone PLEASE make that little cartridge guy into an avatar for me???

[RockyRaccoon]

Sure....I'll try to have it for ya tommrow. XD

~Rocky

[whoisKeel]

lol at the pic, and mostly the de-railment of the thread. i'm pretty sure the creator of this topic knows damn well what emulation is...you did not have to point it out to him.

again, get the system if you think you will play it. $30 is reasonable for almost any console imo, snes or other, assuming it is in fair condition. There's excellent games for it, but still, if you are convinced you won't play it, save the $30. It's not like you can't change your mind 3 years down the road.

[Cirrus]

About the SNES, it is a great deal, you should definitely pick it up. When I was young, this was my favorite system, and no one could convince me Genesis was better. They were just sad because they jumped the gun and bought too early. :)

About emulation, some people get so upset! I have a ton of carts and discs, and roms. I only get roms of games I wouldn't buy anyways. Honestly. I think it's the same for most. And they aren't hurting anyone. They aren't hurting your aging systems. No one knows or cares.

And if those who pay 400 dollars for Neo Geo games feel that rom users haven't earned the "privilege" to enjoy that game, too bad. These are games found in an arcade for 25 cents a go. Most people who download a huge set of Neo Geo roms are probably going to play a game once or twice and forget it. Fifty cents.

For those who collect the expensive carts, hundreds of dollars is probably a deal. So enjoy it and stop judging those whose grammar skills keep them at a natural disadvantage. LOL

[Dimitri]

Iron Draggon, Cirrus: "Word." I'd think more people here would be supportive of emulation. There's several games I'd have never picked up had I not tried them in emulators (Pac-in-Time and Jim Power) plus MAME has me searching high and low for a Psychic 5 PCB. ;)

Rocky Raccoon: LOL

Whoever started the thread: $30 is reasonable if it has a few games with it. If you really do like the "old" games, the SNES is probably one of your best bets on getting something that's both fun to play and not completely archaic-looking. I'll tell you that a Genesis would probably also be worth about that much if it came with some games...but the choice is yours (obviously). Go with the SNES for RPGs, and the Genesis for shooters. If you like platformers, either will have plenty for you to check out. :)

[Promophile]

I use ROMs on certain SNES RPGS. The thing is I own the carts but the batteries are long dead, meaning I can't save. Not being able to save in Earthbound / FF3 ect is very debilitating. I'm even thinking of picking up a SNES to USB converter thing to use the SNES controller on the computer.

[Predatorxs]

I use ROMs on certain SNES RPGS. The thing is I own the carts but the batteries are long dead, meaning I can't save. Not being able to save in Earthbound / FF3 ect is very debilitating. I'm even thinking of picking up a SNES to USB converter thing to use the SNES controller on the computer.

Why not just change the dead batteries?.... Also i have roms to, i did have a neogeo collection but i sold it all just over a year back, to be honest it's mainly the fighting titles i like..

I also have many snes roms, but i also have them in cart form as well, so i can kinda use the excuse that i have the original rom/cart.

Roms are great and the huge plus side to emulation, (like) Iron Draggon mentioned they help in the cataloguing and preservation of our digital gaming history, which is spot on. it's scary to think what will happen in 100 years, when carts and PS2 games are all gone for ever? at least people will still have all these roms.

Imagine playing megaman 2 (nes) in 100 years time.. O_O I'm sure games will have evolved beyond anybodies wildess imagination.

BACK ON TOPIC :

Pick up the Snes, but check ebay to, i'm sure you'll find one alittle cheaper with a few games too (i think someone already mentioned that.. good idea)

then here are the first 10 games you should look to get ahold of in no particular order :

Zelda
Super Metroid
Mario Kart
Super Mario World
Starfox
Super Mario allstars
Street fighter II turbo
Yoshi's Island
NBA Jam
F-Zero

Now that is not the best 10, they are NOT my best 10, BUT they are 10 great games, that any snes owner should have and more importantly PLAY.

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS ( Must stay On topic! from now on! dammit )

[Jibbajaba]

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Chris