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Ernster
01-16-2005, 11:55 PM
Im sure a lot of you have read the book Game Over by David Sheff, which outlines the "evil" side to Nintendo back in the 80's.....well I havent :(
I live in Australia and this book wasnt released down here, but I would really like to buy a copy online.
Can anyone sugest a few trusworthy sites were I could buy this book from?
Also does this book contain pictures? If so, are they colour or B/W
Thanks.
yuppicide
01-17-2005, 12:13 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=378&item=4519325687&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Rogmeister
01-17-2005, 12:21 AM
Well, I see it at Amazon.com but I don't know if they ship internationally. There's actually two versions with slightly different titles and the newer version has newer chapters...written by someone else, strangely enough. Andy Eddy is the writer of the newer chapters. The first edition was originally titled Game Over : How Nintendo Zapped an American Industry, Captured Your Dollars, and EnslavedYour Children. I have the updated version handy and it seems to have two different titles. The cover seems to indicate the title as "Game OVer: Press Start To Continue" and also has the subtitle of The Maturing of Mario. But if you open it up, inside it gives the title as Game Over: How Nintendo Conquered The World. Weird.
I guess there's always eBay...
Vectorman0
01-17-2005, 12:22 AM
I live in Australia
From the Auction:
"$2.95 shipping - USA only"
Rogmeister
01-17-2005, 12:24 AM
I forgot to mention earlier that there are just a few photos in the book...
Half Japanese
01-17-2005, 01:15 AM
A pretty good read as I recall. Unfortunately I left mine in my car's trunk a long time ago and the book got water damaged and I had to throw it out. Shame you're having trouble finding it, I got mine on clearance for $1.99 at EB about 5 years ago.
Jive3D
01-17-2005, 02:14 AM
I have both versions of the book. I've also read each version and nothing had changed from the original text in the second edition, only changes are additions and the new cover. Get the new one for sure, the pictures are great, I think they are all black and white. I WISH Scheff would write a follow up on the industry today. would be very interesting...
digitalpress
01-17-2005, 07:57 AM
It is a fantastic book. A "must read" if you're a Nintendo fan or follow gaming's history. I bought the first version in hardcover, I don't recall there being many pictures in there.
rolenta
01-17-2005, 09:07 AM
There were theree editions of this book, each with its own title:
Game Over: How Nintendo Zapped An American Industry, Captured your Dollar, and Enslaved Your Children 1993 (Hard cover)
Game Over: How Nintendo Conquered The World 1994 (soft cover)
Game Over: Press Start To Continue 1999 (soft cover)
delafro
01-18-2005, 12:38 AM
Interestingly enough, my university's library has both the 1993 and 1994 versions. There should be enough copies out there that some one would be willing to ship one to Australia for you, I guess I'd have to say just keep looking.
norkusa
01-18-2005, 02:26 AM
I have an extra 1st edition hard cover available for sale/trade. I can ship to Australia too, so let me know if you want it.
Ernster
01-18-2005, 04:47 AM
Thanks for all your help. Im not looking to be a copy at the moment, but when I have some spare cash around I might send you a PM :-P
Promophile
01-18-2005, 04:50 AM
interesting, I may have to pick this up. While we're on the subject, I remeber hearing about a book about the rise of Japanese videogames in the US and how they revived the game market and such. The one I'm thinking of is a different book, correct?
Jive3D
01-18-2005, 01:27 PM
Can anyone suggest a good solid read for something to follow up on Game Over? I have been looking for a good book about the game industry ever since I read that one (I dont care about PC gaming history very much at all)...?
pr8cjb
01-18-2005, 01:49 PM
I've been hunting for a copr of Game Over in the UK since reading the special edition given away with "Arcade" many moons ago (I still have that book).
For a follow up try The "Ultimate History of Video Games" by Kent et al. (the first edition was called "The First Quarter" which covers Video games from Spacewar and the TMRC to the Japanese launch of the PS2, though the bulk of the book is given over to the time up to the N64. It's expensive but thick, well written and doesn't give much space to pictures.
For more illustrations read "High Score" by DeMaria and Wilson, which starts out looking at console evolution then moves on to individual software houses taking each from its inception to (what was then) modern day - the late 1990's. There's a fair amount of PC games in those sections though.
Gapporin
01-18-2005, 05:30 PM
For more illustrations read "High Score" by DeMaria and Wilson, which starts out looking at console evolution then moves on to individual software houses taking each from its inception to (what was then) modern day - the late 1990's. There's a fair amount of PC games in those sections though.
Yeah, but I was kind of dissapointed in High Score. They didn't really focus on Japan's role in video gaming, and didn't say much about consoles at all. That being said, it's still a good read, and, yes, it has tons of pictures in it.
Lady Jaye
01-18-2005, 07:02 PM
This is the book you want: http://www.bradygames.com/title/0744004241
rolenta
01-22-2005, 08:10 PM
Yeah, but I was kind of dissapointed in High Score. They didn't really focus on Japan's role in video gaming, and didn't say much about consoles at all. That being said, it's still a good read, and, yes, it has tons of pictures in it.
The second edition of High Score had a section on Japanese games which was written by Chris Kohler who also wrote Power Up. There was also another section on European games.
Spartacus
01-22-2005, 08:48 PM
Im sure a lot of you have read the book Game Over by David Sheff, which outlines the "evil" side to Nintendo back in the 80's.....well I havent :(
I live in Australia and this book wasnt released down here, but I would really like to buy a copy online.
Can anyone sugest a few trusworthy sites were I could buy this book from?
Also does this book contain pictures? If so, are they colour or B/W
Thanks.
hardcover 1st Edition
http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=2754507&domain_id=1856&meta_id=1
paperback second printing
http://www.readmedoc.com/WebPages/ShowABook.asp?ISBN=0966961706&ResultsPage=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/0679736220//104-5718128-1725511?condition=all
http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?S=R&qisbn=0679736220&qsort=p&siteID=abstQfEmeP4-SeiVvEM5fup0bFQPc9IrAw
http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=2421511&domain_id=1856&meta_id=1
If you want to read about the 'evil side of Nintendo' you are not looking for "Power Up' by Chris Kohler. Chris has an extremely positive attitude about Japanese game developers. To the point of being... well, you read the book and you decide. But if you'd care to read disparaging comments about Rockstar games, then "Power Up" would fit that bill.
Promophile
01-23-2005, 12:44 AM
This is the book you want: http://www.bradygames.com/title/0744004241
Ah thanks much for the link.
Griking
01-23-2005, 12:57 PM
This is the book you want: http://www.bradygames.com/title/0744004241
This book kind of annoyed me. I know that it's primarily a book about Japan's role in videogaming but too many times I felt that the author was taking a swipe at American games as if they would have shriveled up and died without the Japanese influence.
Japan invented the RGP? Excuse me, but there were some pretty good and influential American made RPGs such as Wizardry, Bard's Tale, Ultima, and Might & Magic.
digitalpress
01-23-2005, 02:25 PM
This is the book you want: http://www.bradygames.com/title/0744004241
This book kind of annoyed me. I know that it's primarily a book about Japan's role in videogaming but too many times I felt that the author was taking a swipe at American games as if they would have shriveled up and died without the Japanese influence.
Japan invented the RGP? Excuse me, but there were some pretty good and influential American made RPGs such as Wizardry, Bard's Tale, Ultima, and Might & Magic.
Tell it to the man! The author is one of our forum members, "kobunheatforum".
kobunheatforum
03-02-2005, 03:28 PM
Hey. I know this thread is really old, but I figured better late than never.
It states pretty gosh darned explicitly in Power-Up that the creators of Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy were heavily inspired by Wizardry and Ultima!
My contention isn't that they invented the RPG; it's that the cinematic elements that Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy added to the genre had huge implications for the medium worldwide.
NintendoMan
03-02-2005, 11:11 PM
I plan on buying this book if I would ever find it anywhere. New condition or brand new too.