Toughest video game boss...

[tony_good]

I got to say Metriod Prime (I).

Runners up would be Contra III SNES (hardest level)
Mike Tyson
Puma from Pro Wrestling

I'm sure there are others, I'm just drawing a blank...

[Cobra Commander]

The Thunderbird in Zelda II. Everyone always told me how hard Link's shadow was. Pshhhhh.....thunderbird....that thing was the hardest I've ever faced before. At least I think.

[orangemage]

i remember the last boss for shinobi for the PS2 being a bitch

[GarrettCRW]

Besides the aforementioned Mr. Tyson, there are:

The Grim Reaper (Castlevania)
Link's Shadow (Zelda II)

[DynastyLawyer]

i remember the last boss for shinobi for the PS2 being a bitch

The winner!

[Berty]

Most of the later bosses in Vietiful Joe, but only the Gamecube version as the PS2 version seemed easier.

i would also have to second Metroid Prime, that thing just wouldn't die :angry:

[pacmanhat]

Pretty much anything from Ninja Gaiden.

And the Egg Dragon in Lufia II...it's completely optional, but it takes 10-15 minutes to kill if not longer...even at high levels.

[Cauterize]

Pretty much anything from Ninja Gaiden.

Definately!

And Meta Ridley from Metroid Prime

[Xantan the Foul]

The Spanish guy from Time Lord.

And Meta Ridley is realy easy if you know how to do it... just lock onto him with the one attack that keeps hitting once it's locked on. Even after he covers his weak spot up again, you still damage him as long as that attack is locked ;)

[AB Positive]

Igniz, Zero, Rugal - KoF series. They make you want to cry.

-AG

[squidblatt]

I've gotta say Mike Tyson, too. He was so hard that I pretty much considered anyone who reached him to have beaten the game.

[Sotenga]

Igniz, Zero, Rugal - KoF series. They make you want to cry.

-AG

Zero and Rugal, I find somewhat feasible to beat. I actually did clobber Zero once on Level 4 difficulty. :D

But Igniz... GODDAMN IGNIZ... AAAAAAAAAAAAAA... I don't know if I've ever knocked the guy out, I've pretty much only won through time-outs. Igniz belongs in fuckin' Eternal Champions or something like that. :angry:

One of the hardest boss fights it has ever been my pleasure to suffer would be the pissing shitting son-of-the-bitch entitled Hiruko, the final boss of Shinobi for the PS2. It took me about two goddamn straight hours of effort to try and obliterate that asswipe... I accomplished my mission, but I sure felt drained afterwards. :/

I apologize for my gratuitious swearing, BTW. It's early morning, and I don't wanna go to school today.

[otterpop]

That last boss in Metal Gear Solid for GBC - never managed to beat it.

[Doonzmore]

The hardest boss that I have ever faced was Mike tyson. That man was a beast! O_O



:evil: :angry:

[Dire 51]

The Grim Reaper (Castlevania)

Not with a triple shot holy water and some good timing. Then he's pathetically easy.

[Maddrox]

Old kung fu dude in super punch out.

[Garry Silljo]

Haven't got a chance to play but I've heard the last boss of Phantasy Star 2 is an experience.

[rbudrick]

The Grim Reaper (Castlevania)

Easiest boss in the world if you have the holy water. Just keep throwing it on the ledge he first lands on. If he never hits the ground, he doesn't move and the flying scythes never appear.

As for Meta Ridley, I beat him on first try...I believe if you use the wave buster on his second form (don't use it before that), you will kick his ass without a fight. I think you use charge shots on his first form.

I would also have to say Mike Tyson. I never did legitimately beat him. I did get him down to like 1 or 2 more punches before, but he always cheated on my ass by throwing never-ending punches that I had no choice but to dodge until the round ended, that cheating fuck.

I remember there was a really tough last boss in Low G Man on the hardest difficulty....I always ran out of time before I could beat him. The first Genesis Shinobi had some TOUGH bosses. I think the level 4 boss or something took like 45 minutes (well, maybe not that long, but still).

The Emerald and Ruby weapons in FF VII take the cake though....unless you know the way to automate the battle so you can take a nap.

-Rob

[Arcade Antics]

Tyson in Tyson's Punch Out!! is cake.

S'right, I said CAKE. :)

Anyhoo, toughest bosses have to include pretty much anything in Total Carnage, especially Ahkboob at the very, very end. To date, nobody has stepped forward to claim that they kept him from escaping and properly winning the game.

[MegaDrive20XX]

The Grim Reaper (Castlevania)

Easiest boss in the world if you have the holy water. Just keep throwing it on the ledge he first lands on. If he never hits the ground, he doesn't move and the flying scythes never appear.

-Rob

Or Crossbow for quicker death...Don't Fear the Reaper!! \^_^/

Hardest bosses

Level 7, R-Type

Final boss in Shinobi SMS...pain in the ass for me right now

DOOM II...good luck trying to aim perfectly while the hordes are coming at you.

Sonic 2 with Knuckles...try fighting Robotnik's final form, when you finally learn that Knuckles cannot jump as high as Sonic or Tails =/

[rbudrick]

Or Crossbow for quicker death...Don't Fear the Reaper

Crossbow in Castlevania? Not in part 1. Unless you have the OMG H01y5h1t!!!!!11hundredandeleven!!1 RARE version. That's worth big bucks. :D
-Rob

[Jive3D]

Sigma in X4 was a pain and a half.

[Xexyz]

Maybe I just suck at fighters but Krizalid from King of Fighters 99: Evolution is one tough sucker. 80% of the time he beats my trio in round 1 and 100% of the time he obliterates whats left in round 2 when I make it.

[Richter]

feh, Yunalesca from FFX

[MegaDrive20XX]

Or Crossbow for quicker death...Don't Fear the Reaper

Crossbow in Castlevania? Not in part 1. Unless you have the OMG H01y5h1t!!!!!11hundredandeleven!!1 RARE version. That's worth big bucks. :D
-Rob

Dude, if you're gonna be a jerk about it, then read it and weep

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/Akumajo22/cross1.png

Explain that Mr.h01y5h1t, don't tell me what's not in CastleVania

[tony_good]

Tyson in Tyson's Punch Out!! is cake.

When I was much younger I could usually beat him, but I must disagree with that overall statement.

Sure, all the moves are telegraphed, but even so I'd still call Tyson quite a Christer to defeat.

Coolest thing was, back in the day, my whole reason for existing was to defeat Mike Tyson. Some buddies of mine said that he was invincible, but I insisted that he was not, and a lot of people didn't believe that I did beat him until I actually showed them.

Come on, Dave. Don't you think Tyson was harder than anybody in Super Punch Out!! ?

Never did try to complete Total Carnage. And I hope I will be able to resist the urge now that you mentioned that...

As far as hardest levels go, the third level in Choplifter with caverns and lava is next to impossible to defeat, I've never beaten the 4th with city rooftops and men in jetpacks.

[kainemaxwell]

That's not a boomerang, that's a cross. :P

Anyhow, Kari from TMNT Tournament Fighters was a pain in the ass. So was that FF4ish optional boss in Super Mario RPG.

[suznjak]

all the bosses in ninja gaiden are my bitches including the hurricnae pack ones.ruby and emerald from ff7 were hard for me though.

[Sph1nx]

0wned.

[MegaDrive20XX]

That's not a boomerang, that's a cross. :P

Anyhow, Kari from TMNT Tournament Fighters was a pain in the ass. So was that FF4ish optional boss in Super Mario RPG.

Cross+ Boomerang= CrossBow :P It's been called that for years

[Sotenga]

Anyhoo, toughest bosses have to include pretty much anything in Total Carnage, especially Ahkboob at the very, very end. To date, nobody has stepped forward to claim that they kept him from escaping and properly winning the game.

Welllllllllllllll... I did once. I was really bored one day, so I kept playing the final level, skipping there with passwords, until I could finally distinguish the real Akhboob from the rushing clones... when this failed repeatedly, I realized that I had to run into each and every single clone to do this, and with perseverance, I eventually strapped Akhboob into THE CHAIR, where he belongs, and he fried... oh, how I watched him fry. :evil:

Now when I do that again, but start a game from Total Carnage from scratch on Midway Arcade Treasures 2, then I'll step forth and claim that I did it. ;)

Sorry to divert the topic for a slight tad. Another balls hard boss that I have to mention is the Eternal Champion from... Eternal Champions. You only have two chances to beat him five times. I could say more, but that alone is an extremely frustrating reason.

P.S.: I refer to it as the "crosserang." :D

[rbudrick]

Bro, That's the boomerang in the instructions, I believe. I believe it's supposed to be a Cross, but Nintendo figured that had too much of a religious overtone.

This is a crossbow: http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/exomax.htm

Ya dig? Shit, take a joke dude, and learn yourself some vocabulary.

-Rob

[petewhitley]

Which Super Star Wars game on the SNES has you flying through all that garbage at the very end of the game? Super Return of the Jedi? Man that was so damn hard I just consider it beaten even though I never made it through. It was mostly a problem with the developers being too ambitious and the game engine simply not being strong enough to make a playable level out of it.

[SoulBlazer]

We've had this in another thread, but I'll say mine again --

Luca, Suikoden II :angry:

[stevec1636]

for me it was mother brain at the end of super metroid. could never beet it without the game genie.

[Garry Silljo]

Dude, that's not what a crossbow is. That weopon is more or less a cross-boomerang. A crossbow shoots arrows, and is NOT in Castlevania.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Bro, That's the boomerang in the instructions, I believe. I believe it's supposed to be a Cross, but Nintendo figured that had too much of a religious overtone.

This is a crossbow: http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/exomax.htm

Ya dig? Shit, take a joke dude, and learn yourself some vocabulary.

-Rob

Actually, your pessimism came first. Second, I appericate your joke, but your wit was not taken as humor.

If this seems as harsh words to you, I doubt it. Then again, your use of terminology has been taken too seriously over such matters.

The bottom line is, the original term was CrossBow, but for the European and American audiences. It was changed, due to religious conflicts. Yet, in later releases of CastleVania sometime after CastleVania SOTN in was named Cross Bow again.

Do I make myself comprehensible Mr.rbudrick?

In no way, did I make inaccuracy in what I have stated, for I have referred to this weapon within the game for many years beforehand.

Again, I assure you, I never took this seriously, I made one comment about what the weapon was called, and you mistakenly put down the classic slang, leaving you wide open for direct hit or let me say this.."YA DIG?"

In conclusion, I stick to my theory, I am not the one to be trifled with, and therefore Cross Boomerang would be a better word at this time, yet I feel the slang CrossBow was well put, because in CastleVania Bloodlines it was changed to Boomerang-like-object, so I can see the current clash for both terms.

So, just call it what you want..because what you think it is, is what matters.

[Kroogah]

Igniz, Zero, Rugal - KoF series. They make you want to cry.

-AG

You forgot Goenitz.

"Oh, you want to attack me? HAHAHA I SUBTLY WAVE MY HAND AND CREATE A TORNADO THAT BLASTS YOU BACK TO YOUR SIDE OF THE SCREEN! Rinse, repeat."

[link1110]

Barubary in Breath of Fire 2
Last form of Dr. Wily in Mega Man 7
Any battle, boss or not in Tales of Destiny 2 (The Japanese one)
Alot of people say the Wind Elemental in Vay, though I didn't have too much trouble with it.

Also, the last boss in Phantasy Star 2 wasn't nearly as hard as the 2nd to last boss. I only "beat" him once, and only because it makes your characters "turn traitor and run," and the running is always supposed to fail, but for some reason on my cart, it succeeded, and I got away with not winning that battle.

[portnoyd]

Anyhoo, toughest bosses have to include pretty much anything in Total Carnage, especially Ahkboob at the very, very end. To date, nobody has stepped forward to claim that they kept him from escaping and properly winning the game.

Welllllllllllllll... I did once. I was really bored one day, so I kept playing the final level, skipping there with passwords, until I could finally distinguish the real Akhboob from the rushing clones... when this failed repeatedly, I realized that I had to run into each and every single clone to do this, and with perseverance, I eventually strapped Akhboob into THE CHAIR, where he belongs, and he fried... oh, how I watched him fry. :evil:

You're kidding! I didn't even think it was possible... a video of that would be awesome, man.

dave

[Sotenga]

Anyhoo, toughest bosses have to include pretty much anything in Total Carnage, especially Ahkboob at the very, very end. To date, nobody has stepped forward to claim that they kept him from escaping and properly winning the game.

Welllllllllllllll... I did once. I was really bored one day, so I kept playing the final level, skipping there with passwords, until I could finally distinguish the real Akhboob from the rushing clones... when this failed repeatedly, I realized that I had to run into each and every single clone to do this, and with perseverance, I eventually strapped Akhboob into THE CHAIR, where he belongs, and he fried... oh, how I watched him fry. :evil:

You're kidding! I didn't even think it was possible... a video of that would be awesome, man.

dave

I'll try to do it again someday, but I don't know how to make videos of MAME. I'm pretty sure there's some option that does make videos during the process of playing, but I never bothered to fiddle with it, sooooooo... heh, does anyone know how to do MAME videos? :embarrassed:

Yash: Goenitz was pretty bad in KoF 96, but not as bad as he could be. However, his assholery in SNK vs. Capcom inspired me to call him "Ghey Nits" from then on. I agree, he is a butthole. And he has a goofy haircut.

Another effing hard boss: The Uber-Soldat of Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I swear, that fucker nearly drove me to whatever mental asylums would accept me. With little room to run or hide, that asshole's Tesla gun got the better of me many times through. The assistance of the scientists didn't help me much in whatever little cover I had available... I managed to topple it finally, but with a mere... I'd say 2% of my life left. It sucks that I didn't learn of the medkits and armor around the arena until after the fight... eh, Que Sera Sera.

[Wavelflack]

Without a doubt the most difficult boss EVER is the skeleton at the end of Gladiator (arcade, of course).


I would actually hazard a guess that no one has ever legitimately beaten him/it. Just getting to him without setting the dip switches for invincibility is a major accomplishment.

Whaddya say, Arcade Antics? Do you agree?

[MegaDrive20XX]

Another effing hard boss: The Uber-Soldat of Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I swear, that fucker nearly drove me to whatever mental asylums would accept me. With little room to run or hide, that asshole's Tesla gun got the better of me many times through. The assistance of the scientists didn't help me much in whatever little cover I had available... I managed to topple it finally, but with a mere... I'd say 2% of my life left. It sucks that I didn't learn of the medkits and armor around the arena until after the fight... eh, Que Sera Sera.

I agree, when playing the Xbox verison, if I knew about the remote device sooner to freeze the Uber Soldat for a breif amount of time, I would have finished that battle quicker....but the best route to take him down, is to play ring around the control booth...he can't fire when you're standing in the white control room...but tries to find the nearest enterance to get inside. So playing tag with him, was the only sure way to bring him down while watching out for the gaurds coming in from the next room on the 2nd floor

[Sotenga]

Another effing hard boss: The Uber-Soldat of Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I swear, that fucker nearly drove me to whatever mental asylums would accept me. With little room to run or hide, that asshole's Tesla gun got the better of me many times through. The assistance of the scientists didn't help me much in whatever little cover I had available... I managed to topple it finally, but with a mere... I'd say 2% of my life left. It sucks that I didn't learn of the medkits and armor around the arena until after the fight... eh, Que Sera Sera.

I agree, when playing the Xbox verison, if I knew about the remote device sooner to freeze the Uber Soldat for a breif amount of time, I would have finished that battle quicker....but the best route to take him down, is to play ring around the control booth...he can't fire when you're standing in the white control room...but tries to find the nearest enterance to get inside. So playing tag with him, was the only sure way to bring him down while watching out for the gaurds coming in from the next room on the 2nd floor

That's precisely what I did. Bloody took me long enough. Thankfully, the wide open space and the fact that they didn't use their Tesla guns as much made the fight against the two Uber Soldats later in the game not as bad.

Waveflack: I only managed to kill that thing through repeated save state use. That was quite a chore.

[rbudrick]

Actually, your pessimism came first. Second, I appericate your joke, but your wit was not taken as humor.

I was never pessimistic...that's your own paranoia.



If this seems as harsh words to you, I doubt it. Then again, your use of terminology has been taken too seriously over such matters.

What? Was that some kind of Engrish?


The bottom line is, the original term was CrossBow, but for the European and American audiences. It was changed, due to religious conflicts. Yet, in later releases of CastleVania sometime after CastleVania SOTN in was named Cross Bow again.

My understanding is that the original Japanese version called it the cross. Please show me a pic of the Japanese insrtuction book where it is labelled as crossbow and I will eat my words.



Do I make myself comprehensible Mr.rbudrick?

'Fraid not, bro. However, you were correct to address me in a way that denotes my superiority. Hey, whatevr you're comfortable with man.


In no way, did I make inaccuracy in what I have stated, for I have referred to this weapon within the game for many years beforehand.

I checked the instructions for Vampire Killer (MSX) and Haunted Castle (Arcade). This weapon is not present,in the MSX game and is called the Boomerang in the arcade game, so what do you mean?


Again, I assure you, I never took this seriously, I made one comment about what the weapon was called, and you mistakenly put down the classic slang, leaving you wide open for direct hit or let me say this.."YA DIG?"

On the contrary,I think you took it a little too seriously. What on earth is "the classic slang?" I hardly consider myself wide open. JUst post a scan of where it is called a crossow...that's all I want to see. You can say "ya dig" all you want...just use it in context, ok?


In conclusion, I stick to my theory, I am not the one to be trifled with, and therefore Cross Boomerang would be a better word at this time, yet I feel the slang CrossBow was well put, because in CastleVania Bloodlines it was changed to Boomerang-like-object, so I can see the current clash for both terms.

So now it's just a theory? I'll keep in mind that you are not the one to be trifled with. That is important information that we should all consider. I'll write that down. LOL

-Rob

[Kroogah]

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we are witnessing a flame war about the name of a weapon in Castlevania.

[GobopopRevisited]

Whats-its-face, Final Boss in Sengoku 3.

[imanerd0011]

According to the Castlevania manual it is called a Boomerang, but like many others I always called it a Cross as a little kid.

Back on topic, I feel that Mike Tyson is definately one of the hardest bosses in any game. The reason many people think he is easy, is because you have played him HUNDREDS of times. The fact that there is a code that brings you to him so anyone can practice fighting him whenever they want, makes him easier to master. If you think he is easy, try to think back to when you first faced him. His punches seemed lightning fast!!!
I also think that Death is insanely hard if you don't have either a triple shot of Holy Water or a Boomerang (cross). If you do have either one, he is pretty easy though.

[Sotenga]

I got another bitch... I just beat Ganbare Goemon 4 for the Super Famicom, and I can say that the finale against the bad guy, Maguamuge, is a freaking ordeal. It's not your conventional boss fight... in fact, all that the fight is is a friendly game of catch... with the FREAKING DEATH STAR as the ball. I wish I could say more, but... it's just indescribable. It is ungodly frustrating, though.

[DJ_DEEM]

any of the higher level bosses on ikaruga i just cant even seem to comprehend them, even though i love that game damn is it hard!

[gepeto]

I have an open challenge at my house Street fighter collection psx or saturn difficulty set at max Select Akuma mode 4 tries to beat Akuma. No one has been able to do it.
That Akuma on that level has Ko'ed all who came before him. i cannot tell you how much money I have won one or should I say akuma has won for me. I have given 10 /20 tries to people the result is always the same. the funny thing is when he beats you he kicks you back to the title screen. Check it out.
Gepeto

[gepeto]

Oh I forgot to mention that Akuma Mode is on Disk #2 of street fighter collection. Ps. If anyone tells you that the have beaten Akuma on the first try you tell them gepeto says the are lying and there breath stinks:)

[Xtasy]

The robot tin can and the flying brain thingy in MS3. Im beginnng to think they might have been on something when they thought up those. But nothing mame and the inser t coinbutton cant fix ;)

-Xtasy

[The Great Dane]

The Spanish guy from Time Lord.

And Meta Ridley is realy easy if you know how to do it... just lock onto him with the one attack that keeps hitting once it's locked on. Even after he covers his weak spot up again, you still damage him as long as that attack is locked ;)

That's funny, cause I was going to mention the same guy from Time Lord. I, to this day of owning Time Lord for about 14 years, haven't been able to beat that boss. A friend of mine did about 4 years ago, though, which kinda ticked me off. Maybe one day I will be able to defeat him. :)